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SOD: EJ to Abby: Move On
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Topic Started: Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM (34,611 Views)
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Feb 10 2014, 02:49 AM
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Actually the shower scene reminded me of Kate and EJ getting it on and Sami coming by to apologize for Lucas wrecking their date. Sami had wet hair. There was also the other time Ej was banging Kate in his apartment and Sami found the monogramed bra, Kate's that is.
Yes that is example of another variation of the "Reflections" theory. Something reminds you of something else -- it could be visual, it could be situational. Something reminds you of something else -- even if it is not exactly the same. It is a *feeling* you get.
Yup I totally agree and it's part of the reason why it makes me upset. It was the same thing with EJaylor. In the early EJami days, Ej was a sniffer, there's a scene where he had just gotten done being a fuck face to Sami, making her cry. He wiped her tears with his hanky. When he left, he stood out her door and sniffed the hanky longingly. With Ejaylor they turned it into a joke. The same thing with EJ and Taylor on the opposite sides of the door to her room when she was living at the mansion, Ejami had done something similar. I also had a bit of "reflection" (not sure the right way to use this word, lol) at the christening. The scene between Ej and Hope had just a twinge of the same psychoticEJ back in 2007 between Ejami at the church where he spoke of "the product of their unholy union". This was a pleasant "reflection".
Maybe they took inspiration from EJ sniffing the hanky when they had him sniff Taylorīs scarf, but I donīt think the writers thought of the other scenes when they had Sami almost catching Ejabby in the shower. There is probably new writers by now or they canīt remember every scene that has happend in the past. I just think it just bound to happen sooner or later in soaps that a scene is simular to an other scene. Itīs not the same as recycling old storyliens. Anyway Sami not wearing much and having wet hair the first time she met Ej and Abby looking simular is just a coincident there are totally different situations, and I donīt think neither looked tacky.
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If she had tossed the dress out of the shower then Sami would have saw the dress that's why the dress remained in the shower. LMFAO!
She should have at least taken the dress off when she did the coat so that EJ could literally cover their tracks with that towel. I don't think Abby can be faulted for not taking off her dress sooner to keep it dry.If EJ was kissing me and pulling me toward a shower while he was wearing only a towel, the last thing I would be thinking about is a dry dress.
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If she had tossed the dress out of the shower then Sami would have saw the dress that's why the dress remained in the shower. LMFAO!
She should have at least taken the dress off when she did the coat so that EJ could literally cover their tracks with that towel.
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To make this even worse, we're supposed to believe that EJ puts family loyalty ahead of everything to the point that he puts his loyalty to Kristen above his relationship with his fiancé and the mother of his children, yet, he has no loyalty to Chad (who risked his life for him), that he'll sleep with the girl he loved without any thought about how his actions affect Chad and his relationship with him. Not to mention, the girl who agonized over Chad's supposed lie and felt so strongly about it that she dumbed him when he was about to go into a risky surgery is not bothered by lying and deceiving everyone. The shower scene was so crazy in so many ways, I am still reeling from it. When Sami showed up and they talked about their business, fights, their child and his game, Abby was confronted with EJ's relationship yet she didn't feel the slightest shame or guilt. Instead, she declared that she's not sorry and she wants to do it again. Are you kidding me? Who are you Abby? I am not one of those people who think people cannot have an affair if they're not in love or have feelings for the person. I actually think someone can be madly in love with one person and easily have sex with another person. I also believe that people can be driven to out of character actions, like one night stands when distressed or dealing with traumatic events but this is a full blown affair. Abby should be thinking about the ramifications more. She cannot call Theresa a slut for supposedly sleeping with the very single Dr. Dan, yet have an affair with a man in a serious relationship (with a woman who happens to be her cousins' mom) and not feel the slightest guilt or shame. Just not believable!
yeah absolutely agree with you :) I would say that writers fail to write believable in this sl and the actors are really trying to sell this crap, but the story is too thin and has lot of holes, and the characters are unrecognizable, so it all just becomes a mess.
I completely disagree. I think the story is meant to come out of nowhere but affairs happen out of the blue too. It's a mixture of several things. Ejami's issue isn't boiled down to EJ sleeping with Abby. Their multiple issues are piled up a big stack of pile of crap that fans are supposed to "let go". I realize that EJabby wouldn't be for everybody, their relationship is more taboo in that classic and soapy way, not because the fans are supposed to pretend rape, kidnapping, rape by proxy and head shootings didn't happen. KM and JS have chemistry or the writers wouldnt have put them in so many sex scenes. Also they are bringing it in every scene or you wouldnt have so much talk of it. I still don't think either of them are in love right now. It's clear that Abby is in full mode lust but you can't blame her for it since EJ not only has met her every step of the way, he's pushed for it too As for Ejami, they suck to me. I know that snot everyones opinion but I was thrilled to see JS given a chance to act something DIFFERENT than this tired ass storyline of his "Samantha" who on her better days expects him to clean up her shit and on her worse days blames him for all the crimes against her family. As for EJ, at least the show has finally made it completely clear that the cheater is capable of cheating on Sami which IMO gives yet one more factual evidence that it is not love he has for her but obsession but in his Dimera raised mind, he doesn't know the difference. And if Ejabby is over (please God don't throw Abigail's character under the bus when it's been EJ happily cheating with her practically in Sami's face) then I will at least have one thing to look forward to and that's when those Ejabby pictures get released and hopefully Ejami will go the way of the dodo. Thank god AS is leaving. Once again you have hit several nails squarel on the head.In honor of the Olympics,I score your post as a 9.5.It would have been a 10 but since the Olympics are being held in Russia,you only get 9.5.
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KM and JS have chemistry or the writers wouldnt have put them in so many sex scenes.
Days always hits the mark with sex scenes and chemistry. Days does not always hit the mark with sex scenes and chemistry.Jennifer/Daniel,EJ/Taylor,Melanie/Dario,Ian/Kate,Abby/Cameron,and I am just listing the once who got a lot of negative comments or that I personally disliked.I mean there are quite a few posts indicating disgust with the pairing of EJ and Abby. I don't want to insult anyone or give offense but was your comment meant sarcastically? I wasn't sure so I answered as if it were not.
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I think the biggest obstacle to Ejabby happening at some point in the future is KM. She has about 10 more months of taping before she hits the four-year mark. If she stays past that time, she'd be the only young actor in the past decade or so to do so. If both she and JS stick around, they'll probably revisit them at some point. Although Ejabby as a legit couple sounds even worse to me than Ejabby as an affair.
They left but where are they now.As far as I know.Ashley Benson is the only person making her mark in prime time even though the show is not on a major network.Is there anyone who has left that has a sucessful career in the entertainment field? If so,who? KM would to well to emulate AZ in taking acting classes to keep her skills honed and stay with Days until she gets a better offer.
SH got a WB show, so I'd say she did pretty well too. And regardless of the odds, they all seem to want their shot. SH, MB, CD, CM, CB - they all left at the end of their first contract cycle. I'd be surprised if KM didn't. Based on her interviews KM appears to be extremely level headed.I don't see her leaving unless she gets an offer like Ashley Benson and Shelley Henig .I think KM ,,is as good an actress as SH,AB,MB,CB ,if not better so I am sure she will likely get offers outside of Days.I also think she is beautiful.I looked at her pictures on that IDB or whatever web site and they were quite good.I do agree that she will likely leave soon unless Days makes her a great offer to stay.Even then I'm not sure how much longer she would be willing to stay.At 25 she might want to put her self out there more to attract work away from Days.
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Feb 10 2014, 07:34 AM
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Her hookers clothes, wet hair, hurry up and get out of here, walk of shame should be enough to turn her off from what is happening. Apparently she really isn't into having dignity and self respect. How romantic.
The clothes were tacky, but she didn't choose them and at least she could cover them up with her coat. Better than being cold. Unfortunately I've seen others wear cheap looking things that they actually chose to wear. Latter-day Sami comes to mind. What she wore to the Brady/Kristen non-wedding reminded me of biker bar chick. Tight black leather dress and spike red heels. Sami can look nice sometimes, but other times she looks cheap IMO. I agree, what Sami wore to that wedding was really not appropriate, tight leather is really not a good look for her.
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But, the conversation was about how some felt Abby was treated after shower sex, and leaving the Dimera gym. EJ wanted her out of there ASAP, he refused to go to her car and retrieve her clothes. He handed her whatever was available...
EJ really Just wanted her gone, quickly saying you must leave... Abby, before her sexual awakening, would have been embarrassed to be in that situation. This Abby was not...
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Feb 10 2014, 08:59 AM
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I do think when EJ asked her to leave that it sounded a bit harsh, but I guess he was just startled by Sami showing up after he got Abby the clothes EJ was nice and flirty with her. :wub2:
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Feb 10 2014, 09:11 AM
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I do think when EJ asked her to leave that it sounded a bit harsh, but I guess he was just startled by Sami showing up after he got Abby the clothes EJ was nice and flirty with her. :wub2: Him not willing to go down to her car and get her a decent set of clothes spoke volumes to me, about what he thinks of their relationship.
I'm not surprised he wanted to see her again in that outfit. He'll take It in secret, behind closed doors, as long as she is willing to give it, with no expectations.
Although, once he feels satisfied with Sami...I think he will end it.
Ithink He will also be firmer in ending it if Abby starts not being so accommodating.
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I don't recall EJ being all lovey dovey with Sami after the griefsex. He also hated when she showed up at the mansion to talk about it.......he couldn't get her out of there quick enough and told her to keep her mouth shut. And how he treats women saids a lot more about him than it does them.
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Exactly. They both have an unhealthy, obsessive attraction to each other. They have extreme passion that manifests itself in both great and terrible ways. We've seen them make each other really happy and make each other completely miserable. And because of that they probably shouldn't be together, but they can't seem to stay away. It's not a great relationship by any standard, but it makes for entertaining soap.
Yep. I believe that's been referenced many times over the course of their relationship. Sami told him that during Daysaster...they are the opposite of good together, when they get together disaster ensues. Also, EJ said it more recently that they can't be away from each other..they're miserable, etc. I think JS also referenced it at DOD, that they can't stay away from each other. I think for as long as AS is on screen they'll be involved with each other in one facet or another. They're far from healthy but they can be damn entertaining.
I don't find them entertaining. Can there be a place for dysfunctional couples on TV? Possibly. But I don't think soap operas are necessarily a good vehicle for it and Days isn't doing EJami any favors. Seriously??
IMO, soaps were built around dysfunctional couples. Even the best ones were full of dysfunction. Luke & Laura, Carl & Rachel, Jake & Vicky, Jack & Jen, Steve & Kayla, Sonny & Brenda, the list goes on & on. All thes couples had dysfunction of some form. But I loved them & rooted for them to be together despite it.
As for Ejami. I'm not loving them right now. Personally,I'd like to poke EJ's eyes out with a fork & smack Samii around a little bit but that's not going to make me suddenly like a pairing that makes no sense to me & Ejabby makes zero sense IMO.
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I don't recall EJ being all lovey dovey with Sami after the griefsex. He also hated when she showed up at the mansion to talk about it.......he couldn't get her out of there quick enough and told her to keep her mouth shut. And how he treats women saids a lot more about him than it does them. I agree the guys a horndog. Just surprised once moral Abby is desirous of being treated that way.
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I don't recall EJ being all lovey dovey with Sami after the griefsex. He also hated when she showed up at the mansion to talk about it.......he couldn't get her out of there quick enough and told her to keep her mouth shut. And how he treats women saids a lot more about him than it does them.
I agree the guys a horndog. Just surprised once moral Abby is desirous of being treated that way. I think any woman.....no matter who she is.....should have a problem with a man who treats her poorly.
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Exactly. They both have an unhealthy, obsessive attraction to each other. They have extreme passion that manifests itself in both great and terrible ways. We've seen them make each other really happy and make each other completely miserable. And because of that they probably shouldn't be together, but they can't seem to stay away. It's not a great relationship by any standard, but it makes for entertaining soap.
Yep. I believe that's been referenced many times over the course of their relationship. Sami told him that during Daysaster...they are the opposite of good together, when they get together disaster ensues. Also, EJ said it more recently that they can't be away from each other..they're miserable, etc. I think JS also referenced it at DOD, that they can't stay away from each other. I think for as long as AS is on screen they'll be involved with each other in one facet or another. They're far from healthy but they can be damn entertaining.
I don't find them entertaining. Can there be a place for dysfunctional couples on TV? Possibly. But I don't think soap operas are necessarily a good vehicle for it and Days isn't doing EJami any favors. Since 2014 started we've seen little evidence that EJami even like each other right now. I know that can change in a blink of an eye, but for all the crying and whining about how Ejabby are "whiplash" going back and forth I can certainly say EJami are the same way. Hell, you had back to back episodes with EJami being so cold to each other (when he got back from his 2nd trip to Smith Island) and then the next episode suddenly they are laughing and joking and I guess he was going to carry her upstairs for sex until Marlena dared to call to say Eric was in the hospital. THEN Sami was right back blaming EJ for everything. I don't find that entertaining. I find it eye rolling. I prefer couples to have some good old fashioned romance on TV and EJami never goes there because there relationship is built on lies and strategies. Whatever. I was fast forwarding the before Ejabby so I guess I can go back to that until the Ejabby photos come back and finally end them like they should have done months ago. But I'm going to say this, I hope if EJ is serious about getting his life back with Sami, he shows some God honest guilt over screwing Abby. He's showed it ONE TIME and that was several fucks ago. Maybe that's what the necklace is for, seems like it's the same pattern he did with Nicole but I'm sure there will be excuses of how this time its just totally different. I think most people who feel like ejabby is giving them whiplash would agree that ejami has recently suffered from the same thing. The illogical ejabby affair only exists because of an abrupt change in direction for ejami.
And yes, EJ does have a habit of giving his fiancees necklaces for Valentine's Day. Which is very suspect behavior; an unusual thing to do.
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Yep. I believe that's been referenced many times over the course of their relationship. Sami told him that during Daysaster...they are the opposite of good together, when they get together disaster ensues. Also, EJ said it more recently that they can't be away from each other..they're miserable, etc. I think JS also referenced it at DOD, that they can't stay away from each other. I think for as long as AS is on screen they'll be involved with each other in one facet or another. They're far from healthy but they can be damn entertaining.
I don't find them entertaining. Can there be a place for dysfunctional couples on TV? Possibly. But I don't think soap operas are necessarily a good vehicle for it and Days isn't doing EJami any favors.
Seriously?? IMO, soaps were built around dysfunctional couples. Even the best ones were full of dysfunction. Luke & Laura, Carl & Rachel, Jake & Vicky, Jack & Jen, Steve & Kayla, Sonny & Brenda, the list goes on & on. All thes couples had dysfunction of some form. But I loved them & rooted for them to be together despite it. As for Ejami. I'm not loving them right now. Personally,I'd like to poke EJ's eyes out with a fork & smack Samii around a little bit but that's not going to make me suddenly like a pairing that makes no sense to me & Ejabby makes zero sense IMO. No, I disagree too. Luke and Laura, due to the times, it was not seen as rape. (I hate that too, just for the record). He "seduced her". Now I won't get into Sonny & Brenda, I don't know all their history and you are right, that probably is a dysfunctional couple but GH is known for putting their mobsters on pedestals. Days prefers their heroes to be heroes and most of the villains in the past get redeemed with their new love story. Ej is an exception which sadly makes his story harder to take.
Steve and Kayla, Carl & Rachel, Jack & Jennifer all started out as a "bad man" but were redeemed primarily through their love for the woman. (Some other contributing factors helped in some cases but in general). Now those couples there were mistakes made and problems arose, but after the couplings were established, none of the couples intentionally tried to hurt their SO. For years Ejami have done terrible things together.
Now maybe one could argue that Ejami are through hurting each other to such extremes. Ej's cheating is the worse it gets. Fine. Still, they don't treat each other well IMO and I think the show would be better off saying so instead of trying to pretend everything will eventually work out.
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I agree. And it's pretty much the way Sami loves too. That still doesn't mean I wouldn't put a boot in his ass, love or not.
Exactly. They both have an unhealthy, obsessive attraction to each other. They have extreme passion that manifests itself in both great and terrible ways. We've seen them make each other really happy and make each other completely miserable. And because of that they probably shouldn't be together, but they can't seem to stay away. It's not a great relationship by any standard, but it makes for entertaining soap.
Yep. I believe that's been referenced many times over the course of their relationship. Sami told him that during Daysaster...they are the opposite of good together, when they get together disaster ensues. Also, EJ said it more recently that they can't be away from each other..they're miserable, etc. I think JS also referenced it at DOD, that they can't stay away from each other. I think for as long as AS is on screen they'll be involved with each other in one facet or another. They're far from healthy but they can be damn entertaining. but they seem to be equally miserable when they are together....
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I don't find them entertaining. Can there be a place for dysfunctional couples on TV? Possibly. But I don't think soap operas are necessarily a good vehicle for it and Days isn't doing EJami any favors.
Seriously?? IMO, soaps were built around dysfunctional couples. Even the best ones were full of dysfunction. Luke & Laura, Carl & Rachel, Jake & Vicky, Jack & Jen, Steve & Kayla, Sonny & Brenda, the list goes on & on. All thes couples had dysfunction of some form. But I loved them & rooted for them to be together despite it. As for Ejami. I'm not loving them right now. Personally,I'd like to poke EJ's eyes out with a fork & smack Samii around a little bit but that's not going to make me suddenly like a pairing that makes no sense to me & Ejabby makes zero sense IMO.
No, I disagree too. Luke and Laura, due to the times, it was not seen as rape. (I hate that too, just for the record). He "seduced her". This isn't totally true. The story was retconned into a seduction at a later point, but it was originally presented as a rape, and it was presented as a rape recently, when each of the kids found out about it.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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No, I disagree too. Luke and Laura, due to the times, it was not seen as rape. (I hate that too, just for the record). He "seduced her". Just chiming in to say that I'm not sure what 'times' you are referring to - but I can't ever remember a time when that was considered anything other than Luke raping Laura. There was no seduction in that scene, at all.
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Feb 10 2014, 10:55 AM
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- LuvingLumi
- Feb 10 2014, 10:44 AM
- SoapGal1
- Feb 9 2014, 11:39 PM
- tomsawyer
- Feb 9 2014, 11:35 PM
- SoapGal1
- Feb 9 2014, 11:25 PM
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Exactly. They both have an unhealthy, obsessive attraction to each other. They have extreme passion that manifests itself in both great and terrible ways. We've seen them make each other really happy and make each other completely miserable. And because of that they probably shouldn't be together, but they can't seem to stay away. It's not a great relationship by any standard, but it makes for entertaining soap.
Yep. I believe that's been referenced many times over the course of their relationship. Sami told him that during Daysaster...they are the opposite of good together, when they get together disaster ensues. Also, EJ said it more recently that they can't be away from each other..they're miserable, etc. I think JS also referenced it at DOD, that they can't stay away from each other. I think for as long as AS is on screen they'll be involved with each other in one facet or another. They're far from healthy but they can be damn entertaining.
but they seem to be equally miserable when they are together.... That's because they're both miserable, selfish, self-destructive people so they're going to end up miserable regardless. I'd say a pro for Ejami is that at least when they're a couple they're not making some undeserving partner's life miserable instead.
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Feb 10 2014, 10:59 AM
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- tomsawyer
- Feb 10 2014, 10:55 AM
- LuvingLumi
- Feb 10 2014, 10:44 AM
- SoapGal1
- Feb 9 2014, 11:39 PM
- tomsawyer
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Yep. I believe that's been referenced many times over the course of their relationship. Sami told him that during Daysaster...they are the opposite of good together, when they get together disaster ensues. Also, EJ said it more recently that they can't be away from each other..they're miserable, etc. I think JS also referenced it at DOD, that they can't stay away from each other. I think for as long as AS is on screen they'll be involved with each other in one facet or another. They're far from healthy but they can be damn entertaining.
but they seem to be equally miserable when they are together....
That's because they're both miserable, selfish, self-destructive people so they're going to end up miserable regardless. I'd say a pro for Ejami is that at least when they're a couple they're not making some undeserving partner's life miserable instead. And they're youngish, leading, soap characters, so they're always going to be kind of miserable at this stage in their lives.
Edited by six, Feb 10 2014, 11:01 AM.
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