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SOD: EJ to Abby: Move On
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Topic Started: Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM (34,603 Views)
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Feb 11 2014, 03:23 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Ejami have more in common with Romeo and Juliet than ejabby do. My point is basically what Lysie said while I was typing. At this point, all the similarities are cliches that apply to numerous couples. If you really look beyond the surface, they don't have much in common.
For clarity's sake, I'm not sure if they are going for JnJ, I wondered about it. I think it's still too early and things are coincidental. IMO they are going more for 50 Shades than anything. Also, if they are, it doesn't mean they are doing a good job, sometimes things don't translate well. I've seen Ericole compared to The Thornbirds and the only similarity I see is that Eric is a priest. If they are going for Thornbirds imo they missed the mark but perhaps they weren't going for that at all. Ejabby might not be any deeper than just sex in the afternoon. Just to throw it out there, I also can see how they would want to redeem EJ :x since they have a very hard time figuring out what to do with him.
It's totally the 50 shades thing. Y'all remember when JS was leading that poll for ten minutes on Today early one morning?? I guarantee you one of those idiots at Corday or NBC thought it would be a good idea to do a story like that. I see people commenting that this is a 50 Shades sort of thing - but anyone who has read those books can see that this story has absolutely nothing in common with that one. If the audience they are trying to hook with a story like this is the audience that enjoyed the 50 Shades books then they've missed it by a mile - particularly in having Abigail be the aggressor throughout much of this story. Plus the fact that this story is about an illicit affair - it's a story about cheating. There was no cheating in 50 Shades on either side throughout the series. :shrug:
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Feb 11 2014, 03:41 PM
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For clarity's sake, I'm not sure if they are going for JnJ, I wondered about it. I think it's still too early and things are coincidental. IMO they are going more for 50 Shades than anything. Also, if they are, it doesn't mean they are doing a good job, sometimes things don't translate well. I've seen Ericole compared to The Thornbirds and the only similarity I see is that Eric is a priest. If they are going for Thornbirds imo they missed the mark but perhaps they weren't going for that at all. Ejabby might not be any deeper than just sex in the afternoon. Just to throw it out there, I also can see how they would want to redeem EJ :x since they have a very hard time figuring out what to do with him.
It's totally the 50 shades thing. Y'all remember when JS was leading that poll for ten minutes on Today early one morning?? I guarantee you one of those idiots at Corday or NBC thought it would be a good idea to do a story like that.
I see people commenting that this is a 50 Shades sort of thing - but anyone who has read those books can see that this story has absolutely nothing in common with that one. If the audience they are trying to hook with a story like this is the audience that enjoyed the 50 Shades books then they've missed it by a mile - particularly in having Abigail be the aggressor throughout much of this story. Plus the fact that this story is about an illicit affair - it's a story about cheating. There was no cheating in 50 Shades on either side throughout the series. :shrug: Duly noted.
You are the resident expert on all things 50 shades, afterall. :hail:
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Feb 11 2014, 03:47 PM
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I don't think they are trying to copy 50 shades of gray but that they have taking inspiration from it sex sells.
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Feb 11 2014, 03:48 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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It's totally the 50 shades thing. Y'all remember when JS was leading that poll for ten minutes on Today early one morning?? I guarantee you one of those idiots at Corday or NBC thought it would be a good idea to do a story like that.
I see people commenting that this is a 50 Shades sort of thing - but anyone who has read those books can see that this story has absolutely nothing in common with that one. If the audience they are trying to hook with a story like this is the audience that enjoyed the 50 Shades books then they've missed it by a mile - particularly in having Abigail be the aggressor throughout much of this story. Plus the fact that this story is about an illicit affair - it's a story about cheating. There was no cheating in 50 Shades on either side throughout the series. :shrug:
Duly noted. You are the resident expert on all things 50 shades, afterall. :hail: Hee! I'm just a fan of quality literature, that's all. -_-
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For clarity's sake, I'm not sure if they are going for JnJ, I wondered about it. I think it's still too early and things are coincidental. IMO they are going more for 50 Shades than anything. Also, if they are, it doesn't mean they are doing a good job, sometimes things don't translate well. I've seen Ericole compared to The Thornbirds and the only similarity I see is that Eric is a priest. If they are going for Thornbirds imo they missed the mark but perhaps they weren't going for that at all. Ejabby might not be any deeper than just sex in the afternoon. Just to throw it out there, I also can see how they would want to redeem EJ :x since they have a very hard time figuring out what to do with him.
I don't know anything about 50 shades or Thornbirds, so I can't comment on that. I could see them trying to redeem EJ, too, and I could also see them making him even darker. I agree that it's too soon to say what the plan is.
They constantly want to redeem EJ without actually redeeming EJ. They want him to suddenly be good without having him really address the things he's done. His "redemptions" never work because he still walks around like an entitled asshole daring his former victims to even vaguely reference that he's ever been less than perfect. He could never do a bad thing again and constantly walk around performing heroic acts all over Salem, and he still wouldn't be redeemed. These conversations always turn into a thing about Sami, but the thing is Sami is far from his only victim and most of his other victims are expected to walk around town and treat him kindly despite the things he's done (shooting them, stealing their kidneys, blowing up their cars, having them falsely imprisoned, etc.). EJ is never going to be redeemed because there is no way they're ever going to actually address his past. It's not that it needs to be constantly thrown in his face. It just needs to be dealt with and there needs to be a certain amount of admission and remorse for him to actually be redeemed. If they didn't bother to do that for him to hook him up with Sami, there's no way they'll do it to hook him up with Abby. All that t say, I don't think they're going to "try" to redeem him. If they want him redeemed, they're going to pretend like he is without writing it just like they have every other time. IMO they've never done a redemption story for him. They just don't know what to do with him.
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For clarity's sake, I'm not sure if they are going for JnJ, I wondered about it. I think it's still too early and things are coincidental. IMO they are going more for 50 Shades than anything. Also, if they are, it doesn't mean they are doing a good job, sometimes things don't translate well. I've seen Ericole compared to The Thornbirds and the only similarity I see is that Eric is a priest. If they are going for Thornbirds imo they missed the mark but perhaps they weren't going for that at all. Ejabby might not be any deeper than just sex in the afternoon. Just to throw it out there, I also can see how they would want to redeem EJ :x since they have a very hard time figuring out what to do with him.
It's totally the 50 shades thing. Y'all remember when JS was leading that poll for ten minutes on Today early one morning?? I guarantee you one of those idiots at Corday or NBC thought it would be a good idea to do a story like that.
I see people commenting that this is a 50 Shades sort of thing - but anyone who has read those books can see that this story has absolutely nothing in common with that one. If the audience they are trying to hook with a story like this is the audience that enjoyed the 50 Shades books then they've missed it by a mile - particularly in having Abigail be the aggressor throughout much of this story. Plus the fact that this story is about an illicit affair - it's a story about cheating. There was no cheating in 50 Shades on either side throughout the series. :shrug: They took all the parts I hated about 50 and put it on my screen.
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If "ejabby" ends up being ONLY shallow sex, then I want Abby to have a short brief fling, unapologetic, with no pregnancy complications ... and then I want her to recognize that it was just fun ... and let it go ... and then move on with her life in a great career.
I'm reminded of the movie "Peggy Sue gets married"
The backstory is that Peggy Sue is an adult remembering her teen years, and remembering all the many many years she had craved being the hottie badboy -- but never did. She had chosen to marry instead a seemingly 'adequate' fellow.
As Peggy Sue's looking back on her life and reflecting on this, something happens and ... She gets to go back in time and have a one-night-stand with this hottie badboy. And enjoys herself thoroughly. But she realizes the badboy is a good lay, but limited. She sees that it is ... nothing more than it is. She ends up choosing the same husband she had originally chosen.
Now Peggy Sue has the good adequate husband she truly loves ... AND has the memory of the HOT night with the badboy.
I would like Abby to find a great guy (but someone who is actually GREAT and not 'adequate'). And then look back and remember her time with EJ as ... that brief hot fling with the hottie badboy. She'll remember EJ thus but not want to go back to him.
Disclaimer: I might be remembering the movie inaccurately, but hopefully you get my idea.
I get what you are saying but it will be strange if Abby is unapologetic because she's having her sexual awakening with an attached man.
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I don't know anything about 50 shades or Thornbirds, so I can't comment on that. I could see them trying to redeem EJ, too, and I could also see them making him even darker. I agree that it's too soon to say what the plan is.
They constantly want to redeem EJ without actually redeeming EJ. They want him to suddenly be good without having him really address the things he's done. His "redemptions" never work because he still walks around like an entitled asshole daring his former victims to even vaguely reference that he's ever been less than perfect. He could never do a bad thing again and constantly walk around performing heroic acts all over Salem, and he still wouldn't be redeemed. These conversations always turn into a thing about Sami, but the thing is Sami is far from his only victim and most of his other victims are expected to walk around town and treat him kindly despite the things he's done (shooting them, stealing their kidneys, blowing up their cars, having them falsely imprisoned, etc.). EJ is never going to be redeemed because there is no way they're ever going to actually address his past. It's not that it needs to be constantly thrown in his face. It just needs to be dealt with and there needs to be a certain amount of admission and remorse for him to actually be redeemed. If they didn't bother to do that for him to hook him up with Sami, there's no way they'll do it to hook him up with Abby. All that t say, I don't think they're going to "try" to redeem him. If they want him redeemed, they're going to pretend like he is without writing it just like they have every other time.
IMO they've never done a redemption story for him. They just don't know what to do with him. They know what to do with him. He is a villain
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They constantly want to redeem EJ without actually redeeming EJ. They want him to suddenly be good without having him really address the things he's done. His "redemptions" never work because he still walks around like an entitled asshole daring his former victims to even vaguely reference that he's ever been less than perfect. He could never do a bad thing again and constantly walk around performing heroic acts all over Salem, and he still wouldn't be redeemed. These conversations always turn into a thing about Sami, but the thing is Sami is far from his only victim and most of his other victims are expected to walk around town and treat him kindly despite the things he's done (shooting them, stealing their kidneys, blowing up their cars, having them falsely imprisoned, etc.). EJ is never going to be redeemed because there is no way they're ever going to actually address his past. It's not that it needs to be constantly thrown in his face. It just needs to be dealt with and there needs to be a certain amount of admission and remorse for him to actually be redeemed. If they didn't bother to do that for him to hook him up with Sami, there's no way they'll do it to hook him up with Abby. All that t say, I don't think they're going to "try" to redeem him. If they want him redeemed, they're going to pretend like he is without writing it just like they have every other time.
IMO they've never done a redemption story for him. They just don't know what to do with him.
They know what to do with him. He is a villain He's not a very good one.
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Come on now. EJ read the book. They're practically BFFs with so much in common. - Halloween Family
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I bet Jack is regretting writing that book now. B-) - lysie
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Wasn't it a pretty thick book? $10 says she uses it to stand on next time they make out. Posted ImageNo need to stand on the book.
I saw this the other day and was wondering if this was coincidence or if they are trying for a spin on Jack N' Jen. What do you think?
I don't think anything this show does is a coincidence....Emilio, I mean, Ben is arriving in Salem in about 2 weeks...he could play the piano, or any other instrument, but we already know he plays the guitar and sings ;) Oh and going back to the book....the girl needs no book people...she climbed Ej like a tree in that shower...wet/soapy and all.... Bring on the fire truck.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep Posted ImageNo need to stand on the book.
I saw this the other day and was wondering if this was coincidence or if they are trying for a spin on Jack N' Jen. What do you think?
I don't think anything this show does is a coincidence....Emilio, I mean, Ben is arriving in Salem in about 2 weeks...he could play the piano, or any other instrument, but we already know he plays the guitar and sings ;) Oh and going back to the book....the girl needs no book people...she climbed Ej like a tree in that shower...wet/soapy and all....
Bring on the fire truck. she's going to climb up his pole, LOL. And he's not starting anything, that poor little man, he needs to be rescued from the big bad newbie.
Oh and Johnny praising Abby was throw up making, and I like Ejabby.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep Posted ImageNo need to stand on the book.
I saw this the other day and was wondering if this was coincidence or if they are trying for a spin on Jack N' Jen. What do you think?
I don't think anything this show does is a coincidence....Emilio, I mean, Ben is arriving in Salem in about 2 weeks...he could play the piano, or any other instrument, but we already know he plays the guitar and sings ;) Oh and going back to the book....the girl needs no book people...she climbed Ej like a tree in that shower...wet/soapy and all....
Bring on the fire truck. And, btw, I've been thinking this was a Jack and Jen blend for a while, I think I made a comment about how Jen's family tried to keep her from Jack, by repeating his dirty deeds.
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I think some people are also drawn to the Romeo & Juliet type couples/stories.
Ejami have more in common with Romeo and Juliet than ejabby do. My point is basically what Lysie said while I was typing. At this point, all the similarities are cliches that apply to numerous couples. If you really look beyond the surface, they don't have much in common.
For clarity's sake, I'm not sure if they are going for JnJ, I wondered about it. I think it's still too early and things are coincidental. IMO they are going more for 50 Shades than anything. Also, if they are, it doesn't mean they are doing a good job, sometimes things don't translate well. I've seen Ericole compared to The Thornbirds and the only similarity I see is that Eric is a priest. If they are going for Thornbirds imo they missed the mark but perhaps they weren't going for that at all. Ejabby might not be any deeper than just sex in the afternoon. Just to throw it out there, I also can see how they would want to redeem EJ :x since they have a very hard time figuring out what to do with him. I think they have a potential to redeem Ej with a story with Abby down the road, much like they did with Jack. The story won't be similar, but there might be similarities in how they go about doing it. I can see falling in love with Ej through Abby's eyes. I just couldn't do that with Sami....as I could never imagine the character I loved so much ever loving the man that did what he did to her purposely. The only problem is that they have taken a bit of Abby's innocence away...but they are giving her an edge and if she's willing to fight for the man she loves down the road, or he's willing to fight to get her back after losing her then so be it. That in and of itself should turn EJ on, how long did he fight to be with Sami?
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The idea of EJ DiMera being redeemed through the likes of Abby Deveraux - no, just no. :shame: LL, why don't you just go ahead and shoot me in the head Sami Brady-style instead?
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EJ isn't going to be redeemed at all
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The idea of EJ DiMera being redeemed through the likes of Abby Deveraux - no, just no. :shame: LL, why don't you just go ahead and shoot me in the head Sami Brady-style instead? It wouldn't take.
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The idea of EJ DiMera being redeemed through the likes of Abby Deveraux - no, just no. :shame: LL, why don't you just go ahead and shoot me in the head Sami Brady-style instead? Bang... I think EJ could be redeemed (as much as Jack was) through watching Abby nearly die at Sami's hand. Not through love, but through the realization of thi people that can get hurt from what he does. Of course he'll have to get haunted after that, I'm voting Andre, Tony, Lexie, or Benjamin (was that his brother's name?) I mean EJ is on the road to redemption when he wants to turn Chyka in instead of knocking him off.
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The idea of EJ DiMera being redeemed through the likes of Abby Deveraux - no, just no. :shame: LL, why don't you just go ahead and shoot me in the head Sami Brady-style instead?
It wouldn't take. well not if you're going to do it Sami Brady style. A clean close range shot, and not even amnesia
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The idea of EJ DiMera being redeemed through the likes of Abby Deveraux - no, just no. :shame: LL, why don't you just go ahead and shoot me in the head Sami Brady-style instead? This is why I won't watch what they do to EJ once Sami is gone because I get shivers just thinking about it.
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Going back to the original spoiler on this thread (way back 26 pages ago), today's scenes did not pan out. I didn't get Abby "hoping" EJ would make a move. She kept trying to leave. Maybe tomorrow will be different.
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