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SOD: EJ to Abby: Move On
Topic Started: Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM (34,627 Views)
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Feb 7 2014, 04:20 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:10 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 03:40 PM
I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
Her eyes were wide open.
So true, which is why if I even liked (which I didn't) the character of Abby prior to this storyline, I would find it hard to be sympathetic to her.

Especially not after their last encounter where she said she wasn't sorry for any of it.
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Feb 7 2014, 03:40 PM
I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
Her eyes were wide open.
Her eyes were wide open but EJ is not blameless. He didnt initiate every encouter but he did a few and some that she herself didn't take either. You can't tell me that a 6 foot tall Dimera didn't know how to push her away.
I don't think he's blameless. They are both guilty. But when the truth comes out EJ will be villified and Abby will be swept up and sheltered and let off the hook because she was helpless against the big bad Dimera.

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Feb 7 2014, 04:07 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 03:32 PM
Abby will take EJ's advice and move on. I'm betting that EJ won't like that one little bit.
I love the way JS said that EJ doesn't have an emotional attachment to Abby and then followed it up by saying that he does care about her though and wants what is best for her (AND HIM)...in other words..it's better for her to move to someone else, and it's best that he let her for his own sake. Problem is, what happens when she takes his advice...Corday said...'what if'...yep...What if she moves on and falls for this new guy Ben? I somehow already feel sorry for him, if Ej's dark side emerges and wants Abby there is no stopping Ej from targeting poor Emilio, I mean Ben.

The story would go no where if EJ and Abby continue down the path they are going now...it would be too easy so Ej needs to go back to Sami to make this story work, would he really even care in the long run about losing Sami if he starts to become jealous over Abby moving on....there are a few options to go from here..the BSC fatal attraction option and this option...I like this option for the future of the couple. I always felt that Days was testing the waters with their affair and since Days tapes so ridiculously far in advance and they have no way to gauge fan reaction to this story, this is the only way to do it....let it play out, if a good amount of buzz is generated for the coupling they will revisit it down the road in a way that might satisfy more people. That's what they did to Ejami in 2011 and I expect them to do the same with Ejabby in 2014.

Oh and Sami's surprise to Ej is likely that she wants him back in her bed and she wants a date for their wedding....totally predictable and expected.
Don't you mean for Ejabby in 2016, lol? Really though, I see them eventually exploring Ejabby again. After Sami is off canvas later this year, there's no reason not to. Now, I don't think EJ will be jealous of Ben in the near future, but I could see jealousy suddenly rearing its head 10 months from now.

As to the article, I'm not surprised by this at all. This story has always been about shock and drama as opposed to character exploration, so I figured they would go the biggest drama route with its conclusion. And there's not much drama in the reveal unless EJ is in love with Sami and thinks he's going to have a happy future with her. If he's not losing the person he loves and wants to be with by the secret coming out, there are no stakes for him.

I'm guessing Abby will feel similarly once she's out of her sex haze. I doubt she will want her new boyfriend to know she was screwing around with an almost-married daddy of two. Plus, she would have the family shame of being with a guy like EJ and potentially facing the wrath of Sami. So she may chase EJ for a few weeks, but I'm pretty sure Abby will eventually move on as well.

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Feb 7 2014, 04:10 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 03:40 PM
I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
I am sure there was a scene where EJ followed Abby, entered the area she was in, locked the door, spoke to her for a few minutes, than pulled her towards him and kissed her. They would have had sex then if they were not interrupted. So, in that instant EJ was the instigator.

Also, EJ is the one with the finance and family. He didn't particularly look concerned about them when he was willingly kissing and having sex with Abigail. If he is not concerned about them, why should Abigail? She is young, free, single. He was willing, she was willing. I didn't see Abigail forcing him to have sex with her. So, if there is any name calling to be done, it is only fair that EJ gets his share, and they should be just as horrible as the ones given to Abigail.
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Feb 7 2014, 04:10 PM

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Her eyes were wide open.
Her eyes were wide open but EJ is not blameless. He didnt initiate every encouter but he did a few and some that she herself didn't take either. You can't tell me that a 6 foot tall Dimera didn't know how to push her away.
I don't think he's blameless. They are both guilty. But when the truth comes out EJ will be villified and Abby will be swept up and sheltered and let off the hook because she was helpless against the big bad Dimera.

While Im sure that will be the first reaction by the people that love Abigail, I have a feeling Abby will admit her part in this making it clear that she was a more than willing participant.
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Feb 7 2014, 04:26 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:20 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:10 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 03:40 PM
I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
Her eyes were wide open.
So true, which is why if I even liked (which I didn't) the character of Abby prior to this storyline, I would find it hard to be sympathetic to her.

Especially not after their last encounter where she said she wasn't sorry for any of it.
Yeah - exactly. She seems to show zero guilt or remorse over what they are doing. I just don't get that.

I know it's a soap - but this is a girl that's moral code wouldn't allow her to be with Chad because he lied. Now she's boning his very attached brother and deceiving all sorts of people.

Bizarre. - Bad writing.
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Omg! This is great bring on Ben so EJ can be so jealous, EJ will eat his words can't wait. Abby will not become a stalker that story happen a long time ago no need to repeat that
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Feb 7 2014, 04:20 PM

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Her eyes were wide open but EJ is not blameless. He didnt initiate every encouter but he did a few and some that she herself didn't take either. You can't tell me that a 6 foot tall Dimera didn't know how to push her away.
I don't think he's blameless. They are both guilty. But when the truth comes out EJ will be villified and Abby will be swept up and sheltered and let off the hook because she was helpless against the big bad Dimera.

While Im sure that will be the first reaction by the people that love Abigail, I have a feeling Abby will admit her part in this making it clear that she was a more than willing participant.
I will be happily surprised if that happens.
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Feb 7 2014, 04:10 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 03:40 PM
I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
Her eyes were wide open.
Her eyes were wide open but EJ is not blameless. He didnt initiate every encouter but he did a few and some that she herself didn't take either. You can't tell me that a 6 foot tall Dimera didn't know how to push her away.
But, she can't cry foul now. He gave no promises, and she just kept lifting her skirt....she could have walked away,

Yes, her crown should be tarnished. He never said he was a good man.
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Her eyes were wide open.
So true, which is why if I even liked (which I didn't) the character of Abby prior to this storyline, I would find it hard to be sympathetic to her.

Especially not after their last encounter where she said she wasn't sorry for any of it.
Yeah - exactly. She seems to show zero guilt or remorse over what they are doing. I just don't get that.

I know it's a soap - but this is a girl that's moral code wouldn't allow her to be with Chad because he lied. Now she's boning his very attached brother and deceiving all sorts of people.

Bizarre. - Bad writing.
What are you talking about? She's been showing remorse and guilt and OMG, what have I done since this thing started. Everyone in Salem keeps bringing up her morality and every time they do it KM visibly cringes and tries to change the subject. Wednesdays show was the first time she outright admitted not being sorry but before she did she also said, "I know I should be sorry."

EJ on the other hand? He has bent over backwards making it clear to Abby this isnt just sex with her and it wasn't manipulation. He's certainly instigated one sexual encounter and tried before IN THE CHURCH. Other than that first time he got home where he went "what have I done?" he hasn't given a shit about how this makes Sami feel or what he's doing to Sami.

So yea, I am a little surprised that they may try to completely act like Sami is EJs priority and she's the love of his life all along when he's seem downright annoyed to even hear her voice.
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Dee-anne
Feb 7 2014, 04:28 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:10 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 03:40 PM
I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
I am sure there was a scene where EJ followed Abby, entered the area she was in, locked the door, spoke to her for a few minutes, than pulled her towards him and kissed her. They would have had sex then if they were not interrupted. So, in that instant EJ was the instigator.

Also, EJ is the one with the finance and family. He didn't particularly look concerned about them when he was willingly kissing and having sex with Abigail. If he is not concerned about them, why should Abigail? She is young, free, single. He was willing, she was willing. I didn't see Abigail forcing him to have sex with her. So, if there is any name calling to be done, it is only fair that EJ gets his share, and they should be just as horrible as the ones given to Abigail.
I do think EJ is guilty. I believe I referred to him as a fucktard in a previous post.

Just because Abby is single doesn't exonerate her or her behavior. She is just as guilty as he is - and deserving of the wrath that will fall down on her head courtesy of Sami.
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Her eyes were wide open but EJ is not blameless. He didnt initiate every encouter but he did a few and some that she herself didn't take either. You can't tell me that a 6 foot tall Dimera didn't know how to push her away.
I don't think he's blameless. They are both guilty. But when the truth comes out EJ will be villified and Abby will be swept up and sheltered and let off the hook because she was helpless against the big bad Dimera.

While Im sure that will be the first reaction by the people that love Abigail, I have a feeling Abby will admit her part in this making it clear that she was a more than willing participant.
I agree. I see her taking responsibility. What I do see is EJ taking most of the blame.
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Both of them are responsible for their own actions. Abigail knows it's wrong but she still slept with him anyways cause it was good and EJ did the same. He knew he was wrong and he still slept with Abigail more than once. Even knowing that it was a mistake, they still are attracted to each other so I can't help but laugh at it all. :laugh:
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I don't think he's blameless. They are both guilty. But when the truth comes out EJ will be villified and Abby will be swept up and sheltered and let off the hook because she was helpless against the big bad Dimera.

While Im sure that will be the first reaction by the people that love Abigail, I have a feeling Abby will admit her part in this making it clear that she was a more than willing participant.
I agree. I see her taking responsibility. What I do see is EJ taking most of the blame.
Even if they do call it quits for good, Ej recommits to Sami and Abby jumps in with this Ben guy, when the pictures come out and everyone starts screaming about it, it's another way for Ejabby to reconnect because if there is one thing I'm sure of, is Abby is not going to let EJ take the entire blame. What I'm not sure of is if EJ would offer to. (But if he does, you can bet your ass then they will start putting them back together).

If they break them up for good, its probably one of the stupidest decisions the show has ever done and that includes have EJ rape Sami in the first place. Ejabby has gotten on everyone's radar at this point and talking nonstop. Then you add in their chemistry which the show clearly sees or they wouldn't have them humping each other for 4 weeks straight and it's a no brainer.
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So true, which is why if I even liked (which I didn't) the character of Abby prior to this storyline, I would find it hard to be sympathetic to her.

Especially not after their last encounter where she said she wasn't sorry for any of it.
Yeah - exactly. She seems to show zero guilt or remorse over what they are doing. I just don't get that.

I know it's a soap - but this is a girl that's moral code wouldn't allow her to be with Chad because he lied. Now she's boning his very attached brother and deceiving all sorts of people.

Bizarre. - Bad writing.
What are you talking about? She's been showing remorse and guilt and OMG, what have I done since this thing started. Everyone in Salem keeps bringing up her morality and every time they do it KM visibly cringes and tries to change the subject. Wednesdays show was the first time she outright admitted not being sorry but before she did she also said, "I know I should be sorry."

EJ on the other hand? He has bent over backwards making it clear to Abby this isnt just sex with her and it wasn't manipulation. He's certainly instigated one sexual encounter and tried before IN THE CHURCH. Other than that first time he got home where he went "what have I done?" he hasn't given a shit about how this makes Sami feel or what he's doing to Sami.

So yea, I am a little surprised that they may try to completely act like Sami is EJs priority and she's the love of his life all along when he's seem downright annoyed to even hear her voice.
But this is what I'm talking about - I don't think she comes across as feeling guilty as much as thinking she's supposed to feel guilty. I don't know - having a difficult time explaining it. Still recovering from the concert last night.

EJ's behavior has pissed me off - and mostly because it's a direct contradiction from everything I've seen over the years - and most especially the last 12 months. I think he feels Sami abandoned him - so he's abandoning her. He cut himself off from her before she could hurt him anymore. I still have no doubt Sami is the only woman he's ever truly loved.
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Well it still warms my heart that he cheated on the one woman he every really truly loved. BWAHHAHA!! I'm sure Sami's really going to give a crap after the truth is out about Elvis and his lies. This is too funny! Just imagine all the I told you so that Sami is going to get. She's going to be so embarrassed and I can't wait! :laugh: The best part is Rafe and Lucas have found other women and she will be SOL. :lol:
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Yeah - exactly. She seems to show zero guilt or remorse over what they are doing. I just don't get that.

I know it's a soap - but this is a girl that's moral code wouldn't allow her to be with Chad because he lied. Now she's boning his very attached brother and deceiving all sorts of people.

Bizarre. - Bad writing.
What are you talking about? She's been showing remorse and guilt and OMG, what have I done since this thing started. Everyone in Salem keeps bringing up her morality and every time they do it KM visibly cringes and tries to change the subject. Wednesdays show was the first time she outright admitted not being sorry but before she did she also said, "I know I should be sorry."

EJ on the other hand? He has bent over backwards making it clear to Abby this isnt just sex with her and it wasn't manipulation. He's certainly instigated one sexual encounter and tried before IN THE CHURCH. Other than that first time he got home where he went "what have I done?" he hasn't given a shit about how this makes Sami feel or what he's doing to Sami.

So yea, I am a little surprised that they may try to completely act like Sami is EJs priority and she's the love of his life all along when he's seem downright annoyed to even hear her voice.
But this is what I'm talking about - I don't think she comes across as feeling guilty as much as thinking she's supposed to feel guilty. I don't know - having a difficult time explaining it. Still recovering from the concert last night.

EJ's behavior has pissed me off - and mostly because it's a direct contradiction from everything I've seen over the years - and most especially the last 12 months. I think he feels Sami abandoned him - so he's abandoning her. He cut himself off from her before she could hurt him anymore. I still have no doubt Sami is the only woman he's ever truly loved.
Except you cant have OTP couples on soaps anymore. EJ has loved both Taylor and Nicole just as much he loved Sami. And when AS is gone and they find his new love interest (whether that be Abby or someone new), he's going to love that person as much too.

I've watched Sami go from Lucas to EJ to Rafe to Lucas and then I lose count. Every man Sami is with is THE MAN for her. Same applies to EJ who's way of loving is usually be control.

It's just so frustrating. God. A year ago I just let Ejami shit go. Jesus. Then for once I actually got excited they were going to take a stand and admit "Yea, this couple needs to end very quickly." As much as I hate Fetch, at least in that case it's not been about manipulation, pain, rape, guns and kidnappings that I am supposed to "ignore".
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I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
I am sure there was a scene where EJ followed Abby, entered the area she was in, locked the door, spoke to her for a few minutes, than pulled her towards him and kissed her. They would have had sex then if they were not interrupted. So, in that instant EJ was the instigator.

Also, EJ is the one with the finance and family. He didn't particularly look concerned about them when he was willingly kissing and having sex with Abigail. If he is not concerned about them, why should Abigail? She is young, free, single. He was willing, she was willing. I didn't see Abigail forcing him to have sex with her. So, if there is any name calling to be done, it is only fair that EJ gets his share, and they should be just as horrible as the ones given to Abigail.
I do think EJ is guilty. I believe I referred to him as a fucktard in a previous post.

Just because Abby is single doesn't exonerate her or her behavior. She is just as guilty as he is - and deserving of the wrath that will fall down on her head courtesy of Sami.
Yes! They both deserve whatever wrath that will fall on their heads, but personally I don't care about Sami. Not after all the things she herself has been guilty of. So, its safe to say that I am already bored with this story. I won't feel sorry for any of them. I know that already without having to watch anymore of it.
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EJ is a dick and deserves nothing

Sami did not deserve to be cheated on
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Her eyes were wide open.
Her eyes were wide open but EJ is not blameless. He didnt initiate every encouter but he did a few and some that she herself didn't take either. You can't tell me that a 6 foot tall Dimera didn't know how to push her away.
But, she can't cry foul now. He gave no promises, and she just kept lifting her skirt....she could have walked away,

Yes, her crown should be tarnished. He never said he was a good man.
People will blame Ej and Sami, lol.
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