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SOD: EJ to Abby: Move On
Topic Started: Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM (34,626 Views)
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Tripp
Feb 7 2014, 04:34 PM
What are you talking about? She's been showing remorse and guilt and OMG, what have I done since this thing started. Everyone in Salem keeps bringing up her morality and every time they do it KM visibly cringes and tries to change the subject. Wednesdays show was the first time she outright admitted not being sorry but before she did she also said, "I know I should be sorry."

EJ on the other hand? He has bent over backwards making it clear to Abby this isnt just sex with her and it wasn't manipulation. He's certainly instigated one sexual encounter and tried before IN THE CHURCH. Other than that first time he got home where he went "what have I done?" he hasn't given a shit about how this makes Sami feel or what he's doing to Sami.

So yea, I am a little surprised that they may try to completely act like Sami is EJs priority and she's the love of his life all along when he's seem downright annoyed to even hear her voice.
Can I say that I agree with this post soooo much?

Reading this spoiler and it just does not gel with what's actually onscreen. Literally minutes after Sami busted in on EJ inside of Abby, he was already flirting with her and commenting on wanting to see her in her lingerie again. He has no attachment at all to someone he is risking his family to sleep with? Maybe, it's not hearts, sparkles and rainbows for him, but I think he likes Abby quite a bit. James Scott's claims of devotion are laughable.

EJ's priority has and always will be getting what he wants, when he wants. Sami was secondary to him in all of this. Valentine's Day is just a minor bump in the road to the day that Sami realizes her beloved EJ has been running around town with sweet little Abby.
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Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM
This week's SOD features a short article about EJ, Sami and Abigail.

EJ wants to rekindle things with Sami. He ends up in a situation where he's alone with Abigail, but he doesn't make the first move, although Abigail wants him to. James Scott clarifies that EJ doesn't have any emotional attachment to Abigail, though he does care about her. EJ encourages Abigail to move on and find someone else. EJ buys Samantha a gift for Valentine's day. She's touched, and she says she has a surprise for him...

Check out the lastest Digest for details!


Caring for someone is an emotional attachment. JMO Its not like Abby is making him strip down and screw her in cabins,closets and showers. It takes two to tango,my friend...

I believe James Scott (Ej) has thrown that in there to appease the Ejami fans. I also think (by previous interviews) that hes enjoying this storyline with KM...

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Nicole Walker


Yeah she deserves everything she gets for going back to a man that has done the things that EJ has done to her and for the way she treated Lucas and Rafe. EJ gets what he deserves for going back to a woman that shot his ass in the head and left him to die. I feel nothing for either one when it comes to Ejami. That was just a trainwreck all the way around and now it's going to end once again in disaster which is how it should be. A volatile relationship like that should never get a HEA and i'm glad Ken Corday has set it up to destroy the hell out of them, what a great send off for AS to go out with a bang by bringing back the REAL Samantha Gene as i'm sure she's going to rip EJ's ass to shreds. Must see TV indeed!
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

AidanGreensFan
Feb 7 2014, 04:10 PM
fundays13
Feb 7 2014, 03:40 PM
I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
I don't think it's particularly fair to say SHE'S been following him around town. It's clear that he started this entire scenario by following HER to the cabin. He then followed HER to the supply closet. He's called her on occasion without being instigated by her to do so....she's definitely been the one in total control sexually when it came to initiating the situation but he's not exactly been holding ANYTHING back himself from being a willing participant.
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freedom
Feb 7 2014, 04:54 PM
EJ is a dick and deserves nothing

Sami did not deserve to be cheated on
Rafe didn't deserve to be cheated on either, but that is what happened. I guess it is her turn to be cheated on. What goes round, comes round. There is some justice in soap world.
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Halloween Family
Feb 7 2014, 04:56 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:32 PM
Tripp
Feb 7 2014, 04:22 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:20 PM

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Her eyes were wide open but EJ is not blameless. He didnt initiate every encouter but he did a few and some that she herself didn't take either. You can't tell me that a 6 foot tall Dimera didn't know how to push her away.
But, she can't cry foul now. He gave no promises, and she just kept lifting her skirt....she could have walked away,

Yes, her crown should be tarnished. He never said he was a good man.
People will blame Ej and Sami, lol.
Jennifer the great enabler...poor widdle Abby
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Ljay
Feb 7 2014, 05:01 PM
Ellie
Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM
This week's SOD features a short article about EJ, Sami and Abigail.

EJ wants to rekindle things with Sami. He ends up in a situation where he's alone with Abigail, but he doesn't make the first move, although Abigail wants him to. James Scott clarifies that EJ doesn't have any emotional attachment to Abigail, though he does care about her. EJ encourages Abigail to move on and find someone else. EJ buys Samantha a gift for Valentine's day. She's touched, and she says she has a surprise for him...

Check out the lastest Digest for details!


Caring for someone is an emotional attachment. JMO Its not like Abby is making him strip down and screw her in cabins,closets and showers. It takes two to tango,my friend...

I believe James Scott (Ej) has thrown that in there to appease the Ejami fans. I also think (by previous interviews) that hes enjoying this storyline with KM...

I don't particularly think it's a way to appease any fan base, I just think JS is clever enough to tell you where the story is going and I think we pretty much all predicted that Ejami would somehow find a way to recommit to one another and Abby would likely move on from the affair with someone else only to have the secret come out down the line, either by the blackmail pics or some other avenue, Sami finds out, Ej loses it all and then he realizes that Ben is there for Abby adn doesn't really like it too much
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ok, no surprise at all this nasty story is predictable And I said already when it started that it will end in heartache and misery for all parties, Abby because she is naive and want it to be something more than what it is, and EJ will be devastated when Sami drop his sorry ass, and Sami will be devastated because this time she gave her heart to EJ. So this nasty story is just nasty. So who is roteble in this story well personally, I can only see that one character is just that and it's Sami plain and simple. EJ's cheating asshole and Abby is pathetic and lacks common sense.
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Ljay
Feb 7 2014, 03:59 PM
Ellie
Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM
This week's SOD features a short article about EJ, Sami and Abigail.

EJ wants to rekindle things with Sami. He ends up in a situation where he's alone with Abigail, but he doesn't make the first move, although Abigail wants him to. James Scott clarifies that EJ doesn't have any emotional attachment to Abigail, though he does care about her. EJ encourages Abigail to move on and find someone else. EJ buys Samantha a gift for Valentine's day. She's touched, and she says she has a surprise for him...

Check out the lastest Digest for details!


Ej might not have a emotional attachment now but you wait until Ben makes his appearance AND THEN we will see just how attached Ej is. He has not competition, no reason to worry about anyone taking Abigail away from him. Hes having his cake and eating it too. What do you think its gonna happen when Ej looks over his shoulder and sees another man swing from the woman hes been "involved" with for the last month or so? I bet the once Ej sees someone eating his so-called cake he will get all kinds of emotional! :wink:

JMO
"He's having his cake and eating it too."

Ah, but that's where your argument falls apart.

Because, you see, he hasn't been having his cake and eating it too. If that were the case he would have been sleeping with Abigail while having the love and attention of Sami. Because Sami IS his cake, and she has been rejecting him.

Once he has his cake (or even true hopes of having his cake) again, he won't look twice at Abigail, unless she starts to blackmail him into continuing the affair.

I have no idea where this story will go - nobody but the writers know that - but long before JS spoke out it was obvious that this thing with Abigail was all about shutting her up, getting some physical release, and having someone he cares about pay him a bit of attention. So, that's consistent with what JS said.

Yes he cares, but "he genuinely wants to be back with Samantha."
Edited by PABWECG, Feb 7 2014, 05:10 PM.
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Nicole Walker
Feb 7 2014, 04:44 PM
Well it still warms my heart that he cheated on the one woman he every really truly loved. BWAHHAHA!! I'm sure Sami's really going to give a crap after the truth is out about Elvis and his lies. This is too funny! Just imagine all the I told you so that Sami is going to get. She's going to be so embarrassed and I can't wait! :laugh: The best part is Rafe and Lucas have found other women and she will be SOL. :lol:
I'm not arguing this point - I think the writers doing this was their way to implode (or attempt to implode) Ejami. Cheating on Sami is the one thing in 8 years I never would have believed him capable of doing. The other stuff was just typical nasty Dimera BS - but this will gut her. Funnily enough - attempted murder, kidnapping, etc... all pales in comparison to this as far as their relationship goes IMO. It's complete and utter shit - and I think TomSell couldn't be happier right now.

It's odd - I think the GA was very much on board with Ejami after the past year, and it's known they have a large and vocal group of fans - and the concept of soaps now trying to piss off and anger fans - rather than tell compelling stories is just shit. Corday's whole concept of throwing sandwiches - WTF? Angst is not anger. The entire soap genre has been destroyed in many ways due to this shock them mentality - Piss them off! Fuck you Kenny. I blame the whole thing on that fucker JER and that stupid possession SL.
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Dee-anne
Feb 7 2014, 05:05 PM
freedom
Feb 7 2014, 04:54 PM
EJ is a dick and deserves nothing

Sami did not deserve to be cheated on
Rafe didn't deserve to be cheated on either, but that is what happened. I guess it is her turn to be cheated on. What goes round, comes round. There is some justice in soap world.
Look at how she treated Lucas. She intruded on his relationship with Autumn and then dissed him for EJ. Guarantee when the shit hits the fan with EJ she'll run her lil stupid ass right into Lucas arms expecting him to feel sorry for her which he probably will. She'll whine to Rafe about how badly EJ treated her. WAH WAH. These men need to be done with this twit. She always cries victim after EJ screws her over and then want them to feel sorry for her. Can't wait until she's gone. Where is a countdown clock? I'm counting the days when I do not have to see this idiot for a long time.
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AidanGreensFan
Feb 7 2014, 05:08 PM
Nicole Walker
Feb 7 2014, 04:44 PM
Well it still warms my heart that he cheated on the one woman he every really truly loved. BWAHHAHA!! I'm sure Sami's really going to give a crap after the truth is out about Elvis and his lies. This is too funny! Just imagine all the I told you so that Sami is going to get. She's going to be so embarrassed and I can't wait! :laugh: The best part is Rafe and Lucas have found other women and she will be SOL. :lol:
I'm not arguing this point - I think the writers doing this was their way to implode (or attempt to implode) Ejami. Cheating on Sami is the one thing in 8 years I never would have believed him capable of doing. The other stuff was just typical nasty Dimera BS - but this will gut her. Funnily enough - attempted murder, kidnapping, etc... all pales in comparison to this as far as their relationship goes IMO. It's complete and utter shit - and I think TomSell couldn't be happier right now.

It's odd - I think the GA was very much on board with Ejami after the past year, and it's known they have a large and vocal group of fans - and the concept of soaps now trying to piss off and anger fans - rather than tell compelling stories is just shit. Corday's whole concept of throwing sandwiches - WTF? Angst is not anger. The entire soap genre has been destroyed in many ways due to this shock them mentality - Piss them off! Fuck you Kenny. I blame the whole thing on that fucker JER and that stupid possession SL.
Exactly.

Corday admitted that he knew there was strong support for Ejami in the GA, and he wanted a story that would have the audience "throwing sandwiches at their TVs." Wonderful way to treat the show's fans, KC.
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PABWECG
Feb 7 2014, 05:07 PM
Ah, but that's where your argument falls apart.

Because, you see, he hasn't been having his cake and eating it too. If that were the case he would have been sleeping with Abigail while having the love and attention of Sami. Because Sami IS his cake, and she has been rejecting him.

Once he has his cake (or even true hopes of having his cake) again, he won't look twice at Abigail, unless she starts to blackmail him into continuing the affair.

I have no idea where this story will go - nobody but the writers know that - but long before JS spoke out it was obvious that this thing with Abigail was all about shutting her up, getting some physical release, and having someone he cares about pay him a bit of attention. So, that's consistent with what JS said.

Yes he cares, but "he genuinely wants to be back with Samantha."
Isn't he still tasting Abby's cake the week after Valentine's Day?
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Tripp
Feb 7 2014, 04:34 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:29 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:26 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:20 PM

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So true, which is why if I even liked (which I didn't) the character of Abby prior to this storyline, I would find it hard to be sympathetic to her.

Especially not after their last encounter where she said she wasn't sorry for any of it.
Yeah - exactly. She seems to show zero guilt or remorse over what they are doing. I just don't get that.

I know it's a soap - but this is a girl that's moral code wouldn't allow her to be with Chad because he lied. Now she's boning his very attached brother and deceiving all sorts of people.

Bizarre. - Bad writing.
What are you talking about? She's been showing remorse and guilt and OMG, what have I done since this thing started. Everyone in Salem keeps bringing up her morality and every time they do it KM visibly cringes and tries to change the subject. Wednesdays show was the first time she outright admitted not being sorry but before she did she also said, "I know I should be sorry."

EJ on the other hand? He has bent over backwards making it clear to Abby this isnt just sex with her and it wasn't manipulation. He's certainly instigated one sexual encounter and tried before IN THE CHURCH. Other than that first time he got home where he went "what have I done?" he hasn't given a shit about how this makes Sami feel or what he's doing to Sami.

So yea, I am a little surprised that they may try to completely act like Sami is EJs priority and she's the love of his life all along when he's seem downright annoyed to even hear her voice.
I don't think it's surprising at all because of all the lead-up to the affair. EJ has been in love with Sami in some way, shape or form for 7 years. The day before he had sex with Abby for the first time, he told Sami he "loved her so much he couldn't see straight." Yet, she's been consistently rejecting him (justly IMO), so he's been feeling hurt, angry and used. And because he's been feeling that way, I think he felt justified in taking what he wanted from Abby. But just because he's hurt and angry doesn't mean his love for Sami just vanished overnight. It would be more surprising to me that after all these years and after everything he tried to be with Sami that EJ just suddenly fell out of love with her. I mean, the woman shot him in the head and left him for dead, if that didn't kill his love for her, I'm not surprised that a few months of rejecting him emotionally and physically wouldn't either.
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I can kind of buy that EJ loves his children, though I have to wonder about that considering he once tried to rip the twins from Sami's womb to harvest parts for Stefano. I'm even willing to say that he loved Lexie - god only knows why, cause I sure hated the bitch. And based on what I've seen, I'd say he loves Theo. That's it for love when it comes to EJ. He's never loved Sami. She is his obsession. He has her now and he's finding out that as is almost always the case, once you get what you want, you discover that you don't really want it anymore. The chase was the fun part.
EJ hasn't experienced true romantic love, and if he's ever going to, it will be in the future with Abby.

And that bit about Kenny thinking we'll throw sandwiches at the tv - I'd rather send sandwiches to the studio to thank them for ending the vileness that was EJ/Sami. I can actually watch the show again without wanting to vomit.
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I don't think EJ has a big attachment to Abigail, but if he says he cares about her, then there IS something there. He definitely has more at stake with Sami, and since they share kids, he should try to work it out. BUT we all know that he is lying to her and it will come out (most likely during May sweeps) and cause a big uproar in Salem. Everyone will blame EJ for taking advantage, but Abigail will stand up for him and for herself (b/c she wants to prove that she is a woman). Sami will go after Abigail and EJ will have to defend and protect her from Sami. Sami will in the end dump EJ. All good things to watch (other than scrunchy face scenes playing the victim). What goes around comes around and I look forward to seeing how everything actually plays out! In the end, EJ willingly cheated on Sami and when he tries to spin that he did it for her, I'm going to sit back and LMAO!
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Feb 7 2014, 05:05 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:56 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:32 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:22 PM

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But, she can't cry foul now. He gave no promises, and she just kept lifting her skirt....she could have walked away,

Yes, her crown should be tarnished. He never said he was a good man.
People will blame Ej and Sami, lol.
Jennifer the great enabler...poor widdle Abby
Yup.

I forgot to add Jack to that list.

I hope Hope will turn on her, though. That would be interesting.
Edited by Halloween Family, Feb 7 2014, 05:30 PM.
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Feb 7 2014, 04:34 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:28 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:10 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 03:40 PM
I hate when soaps turn a female character into a desperate,needy man obsessed fool. This stinks. And the fact that ej is so coldly brushing Abby off after using her makes him the biggest dirtbag in Salem
Yes EJ has used her for sex - but Abby was the initiator - I sincerely hope they don't try to whitewash this very important piece of information. She is shaking her tailfeather is his face at every opportunity presented - following him around town. Some might say Abby is the biggest slut in Salem for fucking a man with a fiancee and a family.

All depends on how you look at it I guess....
I am sure there was a scene where EJ followed Abby, entered the area she was in, locked the door, spoke to her for a few minutes, than pulled her towards him and kissed her. They would have had sex then if they were not interrupted. So, in that instant EJ was the instigator.

Also, EJ is the one with the finance and family. He didn't particularly look concerned about them when he was willingly kissing and having sex with Abigail. If he is not concerned about them, why should Abigail? She is young, free, single. He was willing, she was willing. I didn't see Abigail forcing him to have sex with her. So, if there is any name calling to be done, it is only fair that EJ gets his share, and they should be just as horrible as the ones given to Abigail.
I do think EJ is guilty. I believe I referred to him as a fucktard in a previous post.

Just because Abby is single doesn't exonerate her or her behavior. She is just as guilty as he is - and deserving of the wrath that will fall down on her head courtesy of Sami.
I don't know about Abby & Sami, but yep, EJ controls his on penis. Instigator or not, EJ could say no, and he feels so guilty that he admired her in the top she was wearing in the locker room after Sami came in.

Of course this is what comes next, EJ wants his relationship to work with Sami, he's not in love with Abigal, he cares for Abigal. They are illogical friends who on occasion find it hard to resist. She says wants to and he says "yes". But EJ knows he has to start stop poking Abigal, I keep making that same mistake, LOL ;)

And the fact EJ is usually not the instigator, he just doesn't stop her, she's stopped them. But EJ's more like, I'll lift up your skirt and stick it in. They're friends and he's sexually attracted to Abigal. And she sexually atracted to him, and likes the way he makes her feel at the intercourse moment. She's okay with him using her, I think, because she understands where this guy is coming from. And EJ, so far has seemed to feel justified.
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The only thing I want to see is Sami shooting EJ in the head again. EJ can't make up for the bad way he treated Sami
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That was clearly
designed to keep fans watching. This is
supposed to go on for months.
I take the actors point of view as a
grain of salt. No way is this just sex
with Abby. I've watched the clips and seen
the pics. Besides AS is leaving, so all of this is mute.
In my eyes, this is done as bait to keep fans watching until AS
leaves
I do not see James going any wheres. Except straight back
to Abby.
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