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SOD: EJ to Abby: Move On
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Topic Started: Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM (34,621 Views)
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Feb 8 2014, 09:08 AM
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I just dont think that is true. I mean come on we are hitting the 3 million mark in viewers recently for like the past month. Days was no where near that mark in 2013 (a heavy Ejami year) with the exception of the Kristen s/ls.
It could be because of the polar vortex though.
Last January Days increased by 826,000 viewers and this January they only increased by 682,000 viewers so we will have to wait and see how they do as the year goes on. The cumulative effect of all of last year, with ED, Ericole, not as much Dannifer, EJami, Wilson, the Wabi baby & the writing has slowly brought the numbers up. Last January was the culmination of the Nabi wedding reveal...let's be realistic here, without that story and the way it drove the show through May, Jan and Feb of last year would have sucked royal ass. Sami flip flopping from Rafe to Ej was NOT well written...her choosing Ej came virtually out of nowhere and left many here wondering why Sami would agree with Hope comparing Safe to Bope one minute and the next minute she'd be professing her love to EJ, all after a very orchestrated reveal that had Sami going at Gabi as if she were the worse woman to walk the face of the earth. Her fight with Rafe propelled her to Ej, but she was rather cozy with rafe at the wedding and everyone noted that, so it makes you wonder. If anything Kristen's stories have had a greater impact on 2013 than any other story on the show.....
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Feb 8 2014, 09:12 AM
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepJames Scott clarifies that EJ doesn't have any emotional attachment to Abigail, though he does care about her. EJ encourages Abigail to move on and find someone else. EJ buys Samantha a gift for Valentine's day. She's touched, and she says she has a surprise for him...
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James is known for his strong wording in interviews and although he's tapered it down he pretty much tries to tell it like he sees it, within the confines that they allow. I don't think that was about appeasing anyone. I don't doubt he is enjoying working with KM. He has always and still is to the best of my knowledge one of the biggest EJami fans I know though. I would guess JS wasn't opposed to an EJ/Abby thing but not this way. Not when EJami just spent a year doing what they did and were not officially broken up. I believe he thinks that aspect of it is f****** stupid. I would bet my house on it. I do think if he stays they will definitely do another EJ/Abby storyline.
Given the fact that he's had no problem expressing the past writing has been fucking stupid, I don't doubt he'd say it now if he really thought that. Given his DOD interview where we know now he was talking about this Ejabby story he seems pretty giddy about it. I'm willing to bet he's giddy because he has a story he sees future potential in. I would not even bat an eye if I hear he thinks its fucken stupid but as if now he hasn't said that... He's pretty much expressed the opposite.
My take from my experience at DOD was JS was giddy over working with AS & Ejami. When he talked about the story they were talking about Sami, Kate, Gabi, & Nick. He even said his part in it was brief. I'm not saying he Didnt like his part if the story but that wasnt really discussed because nobody knew about it at that point. Everything I heard him say pertained to loving working with AS, Ejami were trying to work thru their differences, and Ejami deserved a big wedding, etc. Both times I've been around him I've come away thinking he's the biggest Ejami fanboy on the planet. The DoD interview I'm talking about he specifically says, 'A story that is coming up' or something like that...he's not talking about what is airing at the moment of DoD,and that is why it peaked my interest...he's obviously talking about what no one knew was happening at the time of the interview.
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Feb 8 2014, 09:51 AM
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There is no doubt JS loves working with AS and Ejami, but he called the sydnapping and Sami shooting EJ in the head brilliant twists, and he talked in an interview about the road to the altar was gonna be fantastic which seems he was talking about Ejabby. I also donīt know if JS saw this past year as building up Ejami since I doubt he thought Ejami was gonna last forever. I always thought they were gonna break up Ejami sooner or later and that the writers probably was gonna do in bad way.
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Feb 8 2014, 09:55 AM
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Km did fine handling fans. If they poke at her, she has a damn right to poke back. People should be more respectful, she is just doing her job. AS is leaving, none of this will matter in the end. James has plenty of fans I am sure, w or w.o, Ejamis. I do not seeing him leaving a well paying job just to give folks a happy ending. That does not make any sense at all.
KM can do whatever she pleases. She has been plucked from the bench and given a plum front-runner story. No one knows her the actress, it's a matter of perception. I found her instagram to be a tactless response, to a tactless comment. If she wants to jump out of the gate that way, some will like it, to others it's a turn off. As she is a blank slate opinions will be formed. It might be safer to stay above the fray, JMO. Ita. You are very right on every single point. KM is beautiful and intelligent and deserves absolutely the story she is being given. She made me like JS/EJ when I never did before. You'd think people would love that idea, but oh no, I'm not a true fan bc I do not like Ej with Sami. You can still like one pairing over another. Sure I hated Ej at one time, but KM/ABBY has made him completely likeable. Where as for me, Ej is just Sami's lap dog. This post is not meant to start a war or be disrespectful in any way shape or form. I'm just stating my thoughts is all.
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Feb 8 2014, 10:57 AM
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Abby's probably pregnant & will tell the world at Ejami's "wedding".
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Feb 8 2014, 11:18 AM
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This coming from an Ej/JS fan, I doubt he would tell an Ejami faithful or anyone for that matter something negative toward one of his biggest fanbases. I'm sure he's smart enough to say things that will keep ejamis happy while still being open minded about other storylines. I mean damn if he wants another big pay day when his contract is up and he doesn't want to be thrown to the wolves with twitter bashing like poor KM and even AS in the past, JS will play it safe. I can't speak for everytime JS comments on Ejami but both times he was around me he knew the folks he was talking to weren't all Ejamis. Matter of fact, I know at least one of the times he was aware that a third of his audience hated Sami.
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Feb 8 2014, 11:21 AM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepJames Scott clarifies that EJ doesn't have any emotional attachment to Abigail, though he does care about her. EJ encourages Abigail to move on and find someone else. EJ buys Samantha a gift for Valentine's day. She's touched, and she says she has a surprise for him...
Check out the lastest Digest
Given the fact that he's had no problem expressing the past writing has been fucking stupid, I don't doubt he'd say it now if he really thought that. Given his DOD interview where we know now he was talking about this Ejabby story he seems pretty giddy about it. I'm willing to bet he's giddy because he has a story he sees future potential in. I would not even bat an eye if I hear he thinks its fucken stupid but as if now he hasn't said that... He's pretty much expressed the opposite.
My take from my experience at DOD was JS was giddy over working with AS & Ejami. When he talked about the story they were talking about Sami, Kate, Gabi, & Nick. He even said his part in it was brief. I'm not saying he Didnt like his part if the story but that wasnt really discussed because nobody knew about it at that point. Everything I heard him say pertained to loving working with AS, Ejami were trying to work thru their differences, and Ejami deserved a big wedding, etc. Both times I've been around him I've come away thinking he's the biggest Ejami fanboy on the planet.
The DoD interview I'm talking about he specifically says, 'A story that is coming up' or something like that...he's not talking about what is airing at the moment of DoD,and that is why it peaked my interest...he's obviously talking about what no one knew was happening at the time of the interview. I haven't seen that one. The only one I saw that talked about future he was being interview by the LK fans & they were specifically speaking about the story with Sami & Kate which hasn't started yet. JS said he never read others parts in scripts but this time he had been reading all their parts & was saying how good it was.
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Feb 8 2014, 11:23 AM
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Well it still warms my heart that he cheated on the one woman he every really truly loved. BWAHHAHA!! I'm sure Sami's really going to give a crap after the truth is out jabout Elvis and his lies. This is too funny! Just imagine all the I told you so that Sami is going to get. She's going to be so embarrassed and I can't wait! :laugh: The best part is Rafe and Lucas have found other women and she will be SOL. :lol:
I'm not arguing this point - I think the writers doing this was their way to implode (or attempt to implode) Ejami. Cheating on Sami is the one thing in 8 years I never would have believed him capable of doing. The other stuff was just typical nasty Dimera BS - but this will gut her. Funnily enough - attempted murder, kidnapping, etc... all pales in comparison to this as far as their relationship goes IMO. It's complete and utter shit - and I think TomSell couldn't be happier right now. It's odd - I think the GA was very much on board with Ejami after the past year, and it's known they have a large and vocal group of fans - and the concept of soaps now trying to piss off and anger fans - rather than tell compelling stories is just shit. Corday's whole concept of throwing sandwiches - WTF? Angst is not anger. The entire soap genre has been destroyed in many ways due to this shock them mentality - Piss them off! Fuck you Kenny. I blame the whole thing on that fucker JER and that stupid possession SL. I think the "throw your sandwich at the TV" writing can work, but it's not what Days is doing. The possession wasn't that kind of story, IMO. But I would say that J&M's story after the possession for the next few years was that kind of story, and it worked. It was full of near misses, and just when one obstacle was removed, another popped up. Thats not what's being written for this particular group of characters at all. If you want people throwing sandwiches in a good way you have to build up to things. You have to create anticipation. They haven't done that with anyone on the show in years, IMO, except Ericole (and I don't think they've done great with that either because I'm bored). Days wants people to be on the edge of their seats waiting for....what? For everyone to forget any of this ever happened like every other story these characters are involved in? I don't like this story at all but cheating stories are a soap standard and have been soap standard from the beginning. I don't think this is part of that shock mentality at all. It's not even terribly shocking, lol. It's just also not being written in a way that's terribly compelling.
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Feb 8 2014, 11:38 AM
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I just dont think that is true. I mean come on we are hitting the 3 million mark in viewers recently for like the past month. Days was no where near that mark in 2013 (a heavy Ejami year) with the exception of the Kristen s/ls.
It could be because of the polar vortex though.
Last January Days increased by 826,000 viewers and this January they only increased by 682,000 viewers so we will have to wait and see how they do as the year goes on. The cumulative effect of all of last year, with ED, Ericole, not as much Dannifer, EJami, Wilson, the Wabi baby & the writing has slowly brought the numbers up. This kind of blows my mind a little bit. They gained less this year than last year? That's a big fat "so what?" What's relevant is that they gained. What's remarkable is that they gained two years in a row, meaning they gained and retained. Of course the ratings may drop one day. I'm sure they will at some point because that's just how it works. But that won't change the fact that right now, the show is doing really well. I want new writers so any negative in the ratings benefits me, but quite frankly, there's just not any significant negatives there right now and that's been the case for the last year whether EJ was sleeping with Sami or Abby.
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Feb 8 2014, 11:50 AM
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Well it still warms my heart that he cheated on the one woman he every really truly loved. BWAHHAHA!! I'm sure Sami's really going to give a crap after the truth is out jabout Elvis and his lies. This is too funny! Just imagine all the I told you so that Sami is going to get. She's going to be so embarrassed and I can't wait! :laugh: The best part is Rafe and Lucas have found other women and she will be SOL. :lol:
I'm not arguing this point - I think the writers doing this was their way to implode (or attempt to implode) Ejami. Cheating on Sami is the one thing in 8 years I never would have believed him capable of doing. The other stuff was just typical nasty Dimera BS - but this will gut her. Funnily enough - attempted murder, kidnapping, etc... all pales in comparison to this as far as their relationship goes IMO. It's complete and utter shit - and I think TomSell couldn't be happier right now. It's odd - I think the GA was very much on board with Ejami after the past year, and it's known they have a large and vocal group of fans - and the concept of soaps now trying to piss off and anger fans - rather than tell compelling stories is just shit. Corday's whole concept of throwing sandwiches - WTF? Angst is not anger. The entire soap genre has been destroyed in many ways due to this shock them mentality - Piss them off! Fuck you Kenny. I blame the whole thing on that fucker JER and that stupid possession SL.
I think the "throw your sandwich at the TV" writing can work, but it's not what Days is doing. The possession wasn't that kind of story, IMO. But I would say that J&M's story after the possession for the next few years was that kind of story, and it worked. It was full of near misses, and just when one obstacle was removed, another popped up. Thats not what's being written for this particular group of characters at all. If you want people throwing sandwiches in a good way you have to build up to things. You have to create anticipation. They haven't done that with anyone on the show in years, IMO, except Ericole (and I don't think they've done great with that either because I'm bored). Days wants people to be on the edge of their seats waiting for....what? For everyone to forget any of this ever happened like every other story these characters are involved in? I don't like this story at all but cheating stories are a soap standard and have been soap standard from the beginning. I don't think this is part of that shock mentality at all. It's not even terribly shocking, lol. It's just also not being written in a way that's terribly compelling. Frustrating your audience by throwing up obstacles is a key aspect of effective melodrama. And if you do it well, the audience will stick with you because they are invested in the story and characters. But when you don't do the build-up and don't develop the characters' motivations, it's all just a bunch of lurches to the left or the right that will please only a segment of fans depending on the direction of the lurch. This Ejami-Ejabby crap is a perfect example. Last Friday's preview of shower sex got a bunch of cheers from part of the audience who liked that plot direction and a bunch of complaints about crappy writing from the segment that didn't. And then the exact opposite happened with this week's promo. As far as I can see, the only people that are invested in the outcome are shippers and anti-shippers who are rooting for and against particular couples based on predispositions. And that just shows how weak the actual story is.
Maybe Days has just accepted that they can't tell good, long-term stories with build-up and flushed out character motivations anymore. So instead, they're just going for plot twists, hoping that their lurches right or left happen often enough that they can keep most of the audience hanging on until the lurch they want happens. And maybe they're right that that kind of writing is appropriate for today's soap audiences. Regardless, it often feels like cheap, plot-driven writing to me and it's starting to wear thin. I got a kick of DH's plots for the first 18 months of her tenure, but as her time wore on, the shallowness of her writing started to lower my interest. I'm afraid the same thing is starting to happen for me with TomSell.
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Feb 8 2014, 11:51 AM
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I think itīs possible that Ejabby has has a positive effect on the ratings and not just the wheather, but I donīt think that is the same as to say that there are more people liking Ejabby than Ejami. It could just means that those who tuned out because of Ejami has come back plus new viewers.
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Feb 8 2014, 11:56 AM
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I think itīs possible that Ejabby has has a positive effect on the ratings and not just the wheather, but I donīt think that is the same as to say that there are more people liking Ejabby than Ejami. It could just means that those who tuned out because of Ejami has come back plus new viewers. There's no reason to say any of that. Ejabby aren't the only thing airing. The only thing that can really be said is that ejabby hasn't hurt the ratings, just like ejami didn't hurt the ratings. As for what's helping them, that can't really be identified.
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Feb 8 2014, 11:57 AM
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There is no doubt JS loves working with AS and Ejami, but he called the sydnapping and Sami shooting EJ in the head brilliant twists, and he talked in an interview about the road to the altar was gonna be fantastic which seems he was talking about Ejabby. I also donīt know if JS saw this past year as building up Ejami since I doubt he thought Ejami was gonna last forever. I always thought they were gonna break up Ejami sooner or later and that the writers probably was gonna do in bad way. James likes huge twists in stories like Sami shooting Ej and possibly Ej sleeping with Abigail. He is such an Ejami fanboy that he probably rationalizes them to get past anything and everything. He has said at the Boston event that if he wrote Ej's ending, it would be to marry and stay married to Sami. I think James knows the writers may never keep them together but he would.
Soaps.com: Are things going to work out for the two of them?
James: I don't know. And I say that because I really, really don't know! [chuckles] The show is keeping fairly tight-lipped over this. If it doesn't happen soon, or this time around, I would eventually like to see the writers write that story. And I think Alison (Sweeney, Sami Brady, DOOL) has said the same thing. You see, EJ and Sami have never really been together. Never. They've kissed a couple of times, they've had sex twice, once under a certain amount of duress, and another time when it was just a one-shot deal that was interrupted by Lucas! These characters have never really been allowed to breathe, but if they were given that opportunity, you would see something really special. I think the fact that there's this much support for a couple that's never really happened, it definitely speaks volumes.
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Feb 8 2014, 12:01 PM
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Like with any statistics, numbers and theories can be twisted and turned to suit the preferences of those who quote the statistics. I just finished a book that outlined how data can be twisted and studies skewed. And words taken out of context. Ratings are a conglomerate of things. Ratings cannot be attributed to any one thing. Sami can't leave without at least one more storyline angst. Somehow, someway, Abby and EJ are going to be connected. Whether it's that they go on their merry ways, only to find out Abby is pregnant. Whether it's if one or the other goes start raving mad :sarcasm: when the other carries on with someone new, or they still carry on their clandestine affair because Sami does something to get EJ mad again and she withholds her favors. My personal thinking??? Sami and EJ have their wedding, only for Nick or Percy to show up with the photos, or Nick uses the photos against EJ to blackmail him into not marrying Sami, or something like that. SOMETHING is going to have to make Sami go off camera without truly dying, most likely. I'm hoping it's the photo route, and she just decides to go clear her head, although that wouldn't be nearly dramatic enough. That would bug me, though. Just cause I don't think she needs any more grand finale than anyone else, and she's certainly no Jay Leno or Ziva David.
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Feb 8 2014, 12:07 PM
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I think itīs possible that Ejabby has has a positive effect on the ratings and not just the wheather, but I donīt think that is the same as to say that there are more people liking Ejabby than Ejami. It could just means that those who tuned out because of Ejami has come back plus new viewers.
There's no reason to say any of that. Ejabby aren't the only thing airing. The only thing that can really be said is that ejabby hasn't hurt the ratings, just like ejami didn't hurt the ratings. As for what's helping them, that can't really be identified. Why are fans so concerned about ratings? I know some people who are into it because they have an interest in stats but it always surprises me how so many people are hung up on ratings. A high or low rating is not going to get me to watch or is linked to my enjoyment.
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Feb 8 2014, 12:09 PM
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I think itīs possible that Ejabby has has a positive effect on the ratings and not just the wheather, but I donīt think that is the same as to say that there are more people liking Ejabby than Ejami. It could just means that those who tuned out because of Ejami has come back plus new viewers.
There's no reason to say any of that. Ejabby aren't the only thing airing. The only thing that can really be said is that ejabby hasn't hurt the ratings, just like ejami didn't hurt the ratings. As for what's helping them, that can't really be identified.
Why are fans so concerned about ratings? I know some people who are into it because they have an interest in stats but it always surprises me how so many people are hung up on ratings. A high or low rating is not going to get me to watch or is linked to my enjoyment. Bragging rights? :shrug:
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He has said at the Boston event that if he wrote Ej's ending, it would be to marry and stay married to Sami. I think James knows the writers may never keep them together but he would. I'm not one of James' fangirls (I like him)but this is all kinds of adorable.
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I think itīs possible that Ejabby has has a positive effect on the ratings and not just the wheather, but I donīt think that is the same as to say that there are more people liking Ejabby than Ejami. It could just means that those who tuned out because of Ejami has come back plus new viewers.
There's no reason to say any of that. Ejabby aren't the only thing airing. The only thing that can really be said is that ejabby hasn't hurt the ratings, just like ejami didn't hurt the ratings. As for what's helping them, that can't really be identified.
Why are fans so concerned about ratings? I know some people who are into it because they have an interest in stats but it always surprises me how so many people are hung up on ratings. Well, for the last few years it's been because it's like a death watch, lol. Ultimately, I think it's because "we" mistakenly think they back up our arguments. They don't.
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tomsawyer
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Feb 8 2014, 12:11 PM
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- lysie
- Feb 8 2014, 11:56 AM
- S loves EJ
- Feb 8 2014, 11:51 AM
I think itīs possible that Ejabby has has a positive effect on the ratings and not just the wheather, but I donīt think that is the same as to say that there are more people liking Ejabby than Ejami. It could just means that those who tuned out because of Ejami has come back plus new viewers.
There's no reason to say any of that. Ejabby aren't the only thing airing. The only thing that can really be said is that ejabby hasn't hurt the ratings, just like ejami didn't hurt the ratings. As for what's helping them, that can't really be identified.
Why are fans so concerned about ratings? I know some people who are into it because they have an interest in stats but it always surprises me how so many people are hung up on ratings. A high or low rating is not going to get me to watch or is linked to my enjoyment. I think it's the mindset that ratings prove that their opinion of Days is right.
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Feb 8 2014, 12:14 PM
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Well I am pretty convinced that Ricardo and his Pantene Pro-V hair is ratings gold mine. Everytime he swishes his hair from side to side, viewers increase by 100K.
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