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Tuesday, February 11th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 11 2014, 12:26 AM (27,483 Views)
Supergirlx2
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tomsawyer
Feb 11 2014, 05:16 PM
concerned
Feb 11 2014, 05:15 PM
What no cupcake for Allie?
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ArnoldFinnegan
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Count me among those who think Nicole is going to hide the evidence from Eric. The setup for it is perfect. This sucks.
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concerned
Feb 11 2014, 05:17 PM
" I'm standing here knowing that I'm nothing but a problem for you and you want Sami and to be honest with you, that hurts like hell"

sob sob sob....
I liked this because she's not fooling herself ( Hello, Gabi...).
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Feb 11 2014, 05:38 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 05:03 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 03:49 PM
For those of you who were watching, how did Marlena feel about Sami getting pregnant back in the day?


If I am not mistaken MarDevil encouraged Sami to go after Austin. Despite the fact he was in a relationship with Carrie. A few Salemdays after the possession storyline Carrie and Austins 's wedding was interrupted because Sami revealed her pregancy. I believe Marlena felt extremely guilty afterwards and the things MarDevil said caused a lot of tention between her and Sami. Furthermore, Sami hated Marlena for ruining her marriage with Roman and the affair with John.

(OT: I still cannot believe why it took 4 f*cking years or so before J&M got together after the possession storyline. It was soooo obvious they were meant to be. What the hell were the writers thinking by making Kristen John's new lover?? :shrug: )

Anyway, I guess Sami felt betrayed by Marlena, but I think Marlena was pretty supportive and there was not a huge difference with Will's situation. Yes you are too young to have a baby, but you've got to deal with it and i'll be there for you. The thing is Sami didn't want her help and Will does.
Thanks. I guess I would have a problem too if my mother encouraged MY CHILD to get married at twenty one.......she sure would hear from me. :D
I don't necessarily think 21 is too young, my concern is that they haven't been together all that long, and Sonny is Will's first boyfriend and I don't get what the hurry is other than wanting to give Arianna a family. Plus Will has had trust issues with Sonny, so he should probably be very sure about his decision. But my main concern is really that this is their only story, other than the whole Nick thing which isn't about THEM per say. Give them a meaty story and some real obstacles.
Edited by Rosebud, Feb 11 2014, 06:55 PM.
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Supergirlx2
Feb 11 2014, 06:22 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 05:16 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 05:15 PM
What no cupcake for Allie?
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I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying that Allie was with Lucas. Still trying to figure out why Johnny was baking cupcakes instead of being at school.
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Feb 11 2014, 06:22 PM
Count me among those who think Nicole is going to hide the evidence from Eric. The setup for it is perfect. This sucks.
So, is the theory that Nicole will not tell him about the evidence against Kristen because she thinks he only chose her because he couldn't choose being a priest (because of the video etc)? If so, I'm not sure why she would think that. He just told her he loves her and wants to be with her forever. I'm suppose to believe she would think he would change his mind and go back to the priesthood? Seems ridiculous. But if it goes that way maybe when Kristen gets back to town Nicole will feel she has to turn it in in order to put Kristen behind bars, and it will be weeks and weeks of Kristen and Nicole blackmailing each other, because of course Kristen would find out Nicole has the evidence. I guess I would prefer that over Kristen coming back with the biological child of either Brady or Eric.
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daysjahvu
Feb 11 2014, 06:48 PM
Supergirlx2
Feb 11 2014, 06:22 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 11 2014, 05:16 PM
concerned
Feb 11 2014, 05:15 PM
What no cupcake for Allie?
Who?
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I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying that Allie was with Lucas. Still trying to figure out why Johnny was baking cupcakes instead of being at school.
I like that thought. I too like to think that Allie spends a lot of time with her Daddy. She seems like she would totally be a Daddy's girl.
Edited by Reese, Feb 11 2014, 07:05 PM.
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daysjahvu
Feb 11 2014, 06:48 PM
Supergirlx2
Feb 11 2014, 06:22 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 11 2014, 05:16 PM
concerned
Feb 11 2014, 05:15 PM
What no cupcake for Allie?
Who?
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I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying that Allie was with Lucas. Still trying to figure out why Johnny was baking cupcakes instead of being at school.
Maybe it's really early in the morning? or he had a late start? or he had a 1/2 day?
I'd say that maybe it was a weekend, but it's supposed to also be the day of JJ's hearing & there's no way they'd do that on a weekend.
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Rosebud
Feb 11 2014, 06:38 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 05:38 PM
Dutchgirl
Feb 11 2014, 05:03 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 03:49 PM
For those of you who were watching, how did Marlena feel about Sami getting pregnant back in the day?


If I am not mistaken MarDevil encouraged Sami to go after Austin. Despite the fact he was in a relationship with Carrie. A few Salemdays after the possession storyline Carrie and Austins 's wedding was interrupted because Sami revealed her pregancy. I believe Marlena felt extremely guilty afterwards and the things MarDevil said caused a lot of tention between her and Sami. Furthermore, Sami hated Marlena for ruining her marriage with Roman and the affair with John.

(OT: I still cannot believe why it took 4 f*cking years or so before J&M got together after the possession storyline. It was soooo obvious they were meant to be. What the hell were the writers thinking by making Kristen John's new lover?? :shrug: )

Anyway, I guess Sami felt betrayed by Marlena, but I think Marlena was pretty supportive and there was not a huge difference with Will's situation. Yes you are too young to have a baby, but you've got to deal with it and i'll be there for you. The thing is Sami didn't want her help and Will does.
Thanks. I guess I would have a problem too if my mother encouraged MY CHILD to get married at twenty one.......she sure would hear from me. :D
I don't necessarily think 21 is too young, my concern is that they haven't been together all that long, and Sonny is Will's first boyfriend and I don't get what the hurry is other than wanting to give Arianna a family. Plus Will has had trust issues with Sonny, so he should probably be very sure about his decision. But my main concern is really that this is their only story, other than the whole Nick thing which isn't about THEM per say. Give them a meaty story and some real obstacles.
I think sadly Wilson wil always be Days' token gay couple and just like their Abe and Lexie, their token black couple, they'll never be allowed to stray too far away from one another for long.
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I actually think it's likely Nicole will tell Eric about the evidence. It was pretty clear today what he was going to tell her, and she still kept trying to interrupt him to tell him about the evidence. She knew before he left for the retreat that if she didn't find the evidence, he wasn't going to be reinstated. If she really wanted to have him at any cost, she wouldn't have pushed so hard to get the evidence from Chyka. For the past two weeks everything she's been doing has been to make sure that if he chose her, she could trust that he was making a fully-informed choice. And now she's going to lie to the man she's worked so hard to exonerate because he's told her he's in love with her? It's not like she didn't already know he loved her. And that choosing a life with her was one of his options.

Now, do the writers want us to worry she's going to keep it to herself? Absolutely. But they've been doing a really good job with showing Nicole's growth, from having her resist the easy draw of falling into something with Daniel to how maturely she's handled Eric's internal struggle. So, with the caveat that I do realize we're dealing with Tomsell here, I think it's likely she'll tell him about the evidence.
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Feb 11 2014, 07:06 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 06:38 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 05:03 PM

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Thanks. I guess I would have a problem too if my mother encouraged MY CHILD to get married at twenty one.......she sure would hear from me. :D
I don't necessarily think 21 is too young, my concern is that they haven't been together all that long, and Sonny is Will's first boyfriend and I don't get what the hurry is other than wanting to give Arianna a family. Plus Will has had trust issues with Sonny, so he should probably be very sure about his decision. But my main concern is really that this is their only story, other than the whole Nick thing which isn't about THEM per say. Give them a meaty story and some real obstacles.
I think sadly Wilson wil always be Days' token gay couple and just like their Abe and Lexie, their token black couple, they'll never be allowed to stray too far away from one another for long.
I think you're spot on, and it is sad.
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pagraves
Feb 11 2014, 07:26 PM
I actually think it's likely Nicole will tell Eric about the evidence. It was pretty clear today what he was going to tell her, and she still kept trying to interrupt him to tell him about the evidence. She knew before he left for the retreat that if she didn't find the evidence, he wasn't going to be reinstated. If she really wanted to have him at any cost, she wouldn't have pushed so hard to get the evidence from Chyka. For the past two weeks everything she's been doing has been to make sure that if he chose her, she could trust that he was making a fully-informed choice. And now she's going to lie to the man she's worked so hard to exonerate because he's told her he's in love with her? It's not like she didn't already know he loved her. And that choosing a life with her was one of his options.

Now, do the writers want us to worry she's going to keep it to herself? Absolutely. But they've been doing a really good job with showing Nicole's growth, from having her resist the easy draw of falling into something with Daniel to how maturely she's handled Eric's internal struggle. So, with the caveat that I do realize we're dealing with Tomsell here, I think it's likely she'll tell him about the evidence.
I'm hoping that you're right. Nicole has matured so much as an individual, but she also adores Eric. I'm not sure she could live with the idea that everyone thinks he willingly slept with Kristen. Even though his reinstatement to the Church is a factor, I'm not sure it outweighs Eric's good name to Nicole. She truly loves him and has been so selfless where he's concerned. I can't imagine that she'd let his reputation remain sullied and protect his decision about her, especially when her dialogue all along has been about Eric making a completely free choice.

(Ugh, I can't brain today.)
Edited by Ophelia, Feb 11 2014, 07:38 PM.
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Johnny officially wants his parents to be Abby and Rafe.
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Feb 11 2014, 06:52 PM
ArnoldFinnegan
Feb 11 2014, 06:22 PM
Count me among those who think Nicole is going to hide the evidence from Eric. The setup for it is perfect. This sucks.
So, is the theory that Nicole will not tell him about the evidence against Kristen because she thinks he only chose her because he couldn't choose being a priest (because of the video etc)? If so, I'm not sure why she would think that. He just told her he loves her and wants to be with her forever. I'm suppose to believe she would think he would change his mind and go back to the priesthood? Seems ridiculous. But if it goes that way maybe when Kristen gets back to town Nicole will feel she has to turn it in in order to put Kristen behind bars, and it will be weeks and weeks of Kristen and Nicole blackmailing each other, because of course Kristen would find out Nicole has the evidence. I guess I would prefer that over Kristen coming back with the biological child of either Brady or Eric.
My thought was that her insecurities will get the best of her. Sure, she worked hard to get the evidence, but now that Eric is in front of her telling her that he wants to spend his life with her, she may see it as being too risky to reveal the evidence to him just in case he changes his mind. Which he probably wouldn't have anyway, but Nicole may not be feeling too optimistic.
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I agree about that, too. She does want to clear Eric's name for his sake.

But I wonder if he's going to want to sit on the evidence in order to let the whole story die for the sake of the congregation at St. Luke's? He might think that, since he's leaving the priesthood anyway, there's no need to drag the whole story out in the press. (I think he'd be wrong - that the truth might help the church heal, even if he's losing the collar, but I think what he told Bro. Timothy about how the church had suffered enough may come into play).
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sometimes i feel like they haven't shown Eric longing for Nicole enough, but then today's eppi just is so... :wub:
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Feb 11 2014, 07:45 PM
I agree about that, too. She does want to clear Eric's name for his sake.

But I wonder if he's going to want to sit on the evidence in order to let the whole story die for the sake of the congregation at St. Luke's? He might think that, since he's leaving the priesthood anyway, there's no need to drag the whole story out in the press. (I think he'd be wrong - that the truth might help the church heal, even if he's losing the collar, but I think what he told Bro. Timothy about how the church had suffered enough may come into play).
Oh, that's a good point too. He seems ready to let go of the whole thing. With the evidence in hand, he may or may not decide to pursue it.
I just don't want Nicole to be the architect of her destruction again.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

greeneyedgirl
Feb 11 2014, 03:57 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 03:50 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 03:10 PM
Today was so much better than yesterday! What a difference a scriptwriter can make!

I think Brady is being a real tool when it comes to Eric. Eric is as much a victim of Kristen as Brady himself is ... and Brady's the one that brought her into the fold and led to Eric's humiliation. Get over yourself already!

Loved Sonny's reaction to everything Gabi was saying and yet I can also see Gabi's point - she desperately wants to believe that Nick has changed so that what happened would just go away and never be mentioned again. Loved Sami's passionate tirade about the woman Kate is and I like how she's telling Nick to put the cards on the table.

Nicole was just a little bit hyper today ... LOL! I liked how Eric came right out and told her he loved her. I also like that there isn't a shadow of a doubt that he chose her over the church as she never got the chance to tell him they got the evidence to clear his name.

And Abby ... absolutely love that she tells EJ exactly what she's thinking and feeling. No fear from her. And EJ may want to move forward with Sami but something tells me letting go of Abigail isn't going to be all that easy for him. And I agree with the person who said they don't get an obsession vibe from her ... I know that's what the spoilers keep pushing but I'm not seeing that on screen yet and I hope I never do!
I'd be truly surprised if they go the obsession route with her again, it would be such a disappointment....and frankly no need to bring Ben in if they were going to go obsession with Ejabby.....it seems that their taking the story and having Abby move on from Ej realizing that he might not be the best thing for her, no matter how sexually attracted and good he makes her feel, only to have EJ be the one that has a problem with her moving on. Ej's really into obsessions more than Abby is...and if he can't really get over her being with Ben or anyone else then no matter what he does to 'try to make it work with Sami' that won't help him one bit if Abby is the one that continues to be on his mind post Sami and him patching things up.
I don't see Ej becoming obsessed with Abigail. You cannot become obsessed with someone who hands it over to you on a silver platter. And we have all seen how "easy" Abigail is, no way is she going to not give Ej whatever he wants, whenever he wants it.
If she moves on as he suggest she does and he sees her falling for Ben then anything is possible. I'm talking months down the line (maybe even a year) not tomorrow, lol.
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Feb 11 2014, 07:36 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 07:26 PM
I actually think it's likely Nicole will tell Eric about the evidence. It was pretty clear today what he was going to tell her, and she still kept trying to interrupt him to tell him about the evidence. She knew before he left for the retreat that if she didn't find the evidence, he wasn't going to be reinstated. If she really wanted to have him at any cost, she wouldn't have pushed so hard to get the evidence from Chyka. For the past two weeks everything she's been doing has been to make sure that if he chose her, she could trust that he was making a fully-informed choice. And now she's going to lie to the man she's worked so hard to exonerate because he's told her he's in love with her? It's not like she didn't already know he loved her. And that choosing a life with her was one of his options.

Now, do the writers want us to worry she's going to keep it to herself? Absolutely. But they've been doing a really good job with showing Nicole's growth, from having her resist the easy draw of falling into something with Daniel to how maturely she's handled Eric's internal struggle. So, with the caveat that I do realize we're dealing with Tomsell here, I think it's likely she'll tell him about the evidence.
I'm hoping that you're right. Nicole has matured so much as an individual, but she also adores Eric. I'm not sure she could live with the idea that everyone thinks he willingly slept with Kristen. Even though his reinstatement to the Church is a factor, I'm not sure it outweighs Eric's good name to Nicole. She truly loves him and has been so selfless where he's concerned. I can't imagine that she'd let his reputation remain sullied and protect his decision about her, especially when her dialogue all along has been about Eric making a completely free choice.

(Ugh, I can't brain today.)
Normally, I would agree with you, but we have experienced often enough that For the plot, they would make the characters become stupid, or behave/act in a way that they wouldn't normally, and nothing needs to make sense as long as it moves the plot. Kristine is coming back, and I doubt they are bringing her back to have her locked up. So, my guess is that they will either have Nicole not reveal what she found, or the evidence gets stolen. Stefano should know by now that Daniel and Nicole were the ones that had Dr Chyka tied up. I am sure Daniel did not kill his minion, and Stefano would want to know what information they got. We know already how easy it is to get into Daniel's place, yet Nicole didn't seem to be in a hurry to secure the evidence she found or better yet, hand it into the police as soon as possible before anything happened to it. Her and Eric almost died because Stefano wanted Dr Chyka to remove all evidence, which he successfully did, so you would think she would be more on the alert this time. Look at the way she answered the door when Eric knocked. She did not even bother to find out exactly who it was before she opened up.

Eric is now telling her that he loves her, the evidence she has, is right there with them in the room. If she does not tell him before he leaves, there is a strong chance that she would want to withhold the information because she is not willing to take the chance that he will change his mind from being with her. I really hope that will not be the case.
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Feb 11 2014, 06:22 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 05:16 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 05:15 PM
What no cupcake for Allie?
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It would have made a hell of a lot more sense, if Allie knew her cousin Abigail was the queen of the cupcakes at her age and roped her into baking them at the Horton House with Johnny and Johnny insisted that his Dad come and join them.

And I'll be Abigail still would have been overdressed for cupcake baking.
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