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Wednesday, February 12th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 11 2014, 11:43 PM (21,113 Views)
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KweenBoda
Feb 12 2014, 12:43 PM
Gabi is guilty of many crimes..namely the deaths of Jack and Madison. She hired the man who caused all of that shit. She deserves whatever comes her way. Get her, Nick!
What I'm ready for is all that to come out and her to go to jail - Will and Abby don't know!!!
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Hannah Scorpio
Feb 12 2014, 12:45 PM
Kaha
Feb 12 2014, 12:41 PM
Hannah Scorpio
Feb 12 2014, 12:30 PM
One thing I find realistic about the Nick story is that they are playing Gabi like a typical abuse victim. It's why I can't completely hate her. I know people who've been in relationship like Nabi. Nick came into her life when she was incredibly vulnerable and took advantage of it. She was 21, and he was very close to his 30s. He made sure her entire life revolved around him and fed her a fantasy. Even after she killed him, Gabi still had moments of "I wish super smart Nick could help me with this. He always 'helped' me".
You're right, I just hope the show actually names it. They should use "abuse" over and over again. Nick is a controlling psychopath and people around him should recognize that. He's conditioned Gabi to rely on him and to defer to his superior judgment. He's made decisions for her throughout their relationship and acted as her "protector," so she's feeling lost now.

About Gabi's age, I think when they met she was 19 the most. When she gave birth to Ari she was listed as being 20.
Will and Gabi graduated HS in 2011 as 18 year olds. So yeah, she met him at 19, had Ari at 20 and is now 21. I messed up.

Nick (and his immediate family) also has a history of mental health issues. Why are people taking Nick's word? Jessica and Marie should send him to a facility to work through his issues. Although that isn't dramatic. Nick will probably be killed for real, while Gabi goes to jail for either Melanie or really killing Nick. If he does die, I hope it's by Gabi's hands. She deserves to end him after everything he did to her.
I'm wondering where are Julie and Hope, who BOTH said they were gonna keep an eye on Nick???? :shrug:
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Matt
Feb 12 2014, 01:57 PM
I love how everything Kate/Sami accused Nick of, they're both guilty of lol
It's usually just WAAAAY more entertaining when they're doing the list of stuff than Nick! :blulaugh:
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greeneyedgirl
Feb 12 2014, 04:13 PM
Kaha
Feb 12 2014, 03:59 PM
I like how the Coven are using WilSon appartment as their crime cover-up site.
Did they check the closet before they started talking about attempted rape and murder?
Okay, you NAILED it with this comment! One of the best all day for me! Thanks for the laugh out loud moment that you provided me. :wub2:
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nananana7
Feb 12 2014, 03:32 PM
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Will Horton

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Richie Cunningham

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Richie Cunningham

From yesterday's thread, lysie asked:
lysie
Feb 12 2014, 12:47 AM
Do other people think Will looks like Ritchie Cunningham?

I replied with a couple pics last night, and now I have more pics.
Found them on ...
http://fuchyeahrichiecunningham.tumblr.com
LOL

Yes I think Will Horton looks like Richie -- but also it's the sweaters and plaid shirts.
Biggest difference is they part their hair on opposite sides.

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From today's thread:
Kaha
Feb 12 2014, 01:31 PM
why do they dress WilSon the worst? Trying to counter the stereotype about gay men and fashion?
Hannah Scorpio
Feb 12 2014, 01:38 PM
bwahahah probably. DAYS is always super sensitive about not stereotyping Wilson. As much as I enjoy them, I wish they would get an internal story again. Maybe Sonny would turn a little dark. He could start working for the Kiriakis'. Sonny had to deal with Dark!Will. It should be reversed now.


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I really need to see Sonny in BLACK LEATHER.
nananana7
Feb 12 2014, 04:37 PM
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oooh I found Freddie in in a black leather jacket!
kay
Feb 12 2014, 10:07 PM
I think the photo with Freddie in the leather jacket is from an interview he did while promoting his role of Marco on 90210 (before he was hired for Days). I think he also wore a black leather jacket during his first Day of Days event when he was interviewed with Casey Deidrick (Chad) in 2011.
nananana7
Feb 12 2014, 08:33 PM
I found Freddie's 90210 black leather jacket interview here -
-- watch and enjoy.

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBSRGrGrZp8

Here is Freddie's 2011 Day of Days interview.
Freddie was wearing his black leather jacket
over a PLAID SHIRT. Sigh.
And the lighting is poor.


*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhFhQ4pjDQI


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I think this is Freddie's own black leather jacket. I found a couple other pics of him online wearing the same jacket.
Edited by nananana7, Feb 13 2014, 03:04 AM.
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Feb 12 2014, 05:05 PM
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Feb 12 2014, 01:22 PM
Matt
Feb 12 2014, 01:21 PM
oh? Abby to EJ re:Sami: "If the two of you weren't together, would it still be a mistake?"
SOunds like to me she wants him....BAD!
Of course she wants him BAD: I would have wanted him BAD: Have you seen him? He only shown his sexy and emotional side. LOL A little bad ass.. but that has only been sexual inclined and hot as hell.

+ She has been with EJ a few times. She likes it a LOT.. and now she notice him slipping away.. of course she would question things. She wants to know if he would ever consider having a relationship with her if Sami wasn't there. If their little something meant something for him as it meant for her. Because of his genuine and emotional signals he is transmitting - despite what he is saying - she is confused. Very natural question for someone that has fallen deep in love with him.
did you notice how he didn't say yes... I love Sami...yes....it would be a mistake no matter what...YES!!!!!!! EJ you twisted twisted man!!! :shame: :wub: :wub:
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EJ encourages Abigail to move on


did I miss this? they talked about what they did... She asked if it was a mistake because of Sami... if not for Sami...would it be. He says lets not to do the what if's ....I'm engaged to Sami.

Not, Abby don't go there, I'm in love with Sami and that is something you will have to accept, I was waiting, tick tick tick, got nothing... what is up with the Ejabby spoilers that don't happen. No fighting attraction, No Abby initiating Jack...didn't JS say he didn't initiate something... Have they been doing some rewrites? what is going on?

What about the SOD article, what's up with this story??

Where was EJ saying Abby you have to move on from me? All I heard, was EJ trying to make Abby feel good about herself.
Edited by crookedhalo, Feb 13 2014, 12:41 AM.
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crookedhalo
Feb 13 2014, 12:35 AM
Quote:
 
EJ encourages Abigail to move on
did I miss this? they talked about what they did... She asked if it was a mistake because of Sami... if not for Sami...would it be. He says lets not to do the what if's ....I'm engaged to Sami.

Not, Abby don't go there, I'm in love with Sami and that is something you will have to accept, I was waiting, tick tick tick, got nothing... what is up with the Ejabby spoilers that don't happen. No fighting attraction, No Abby initiating Jack...didn't JS say he didn't initiate something... Have they been doing some rewrites? what is going on?

What about the SOD article, what's up with this story??

Where was EJ saying Abby you have to move on from me? All I heard, was EJ trying to make Abby feel good about herself.
All the Ejabby spoilers have been vague or misleading.
I think the show is trying to make the storyline *seem* open-ended,
so that a variety of viewers will be curious --
because we really don't know what's going to happen.
-- or we're trying to GUESS, based on our preferences.

Obviously the writers have some sort of plan, but they don't seem to want us to know what it is yet.

Edited by nananana7, Feb 13 2014, 12:50 AM.
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Feb 13 2014, 12:47 AM
crookedhalo
Feb 13 2014, 12:35 AM
Quote:
 
EJ encourages Abigail to move on
did I miss this? they talked about what they did... She asked if it was a mistake because of Sami... if not for Sami...would it be. He says lets not to do the what if's ....I'm engaged to Sami.

Not, Abby don't go there, I'm in love with Sami and that is something you will have to accept, I was waiting, tick tick tick, got nothing... what is up with the Ejabby spoilers that don't happen. No fighting attraction, No Abby initiating Jack...didn't JS say he didn't initiate something... Have they been doing some rewrites? what is going on?

What about the SOD article, what's up with this story??

Where was EJ saying Abby you have to move on from me? All I heard, was EJ trying to make Abby feel good about herself.
All the Ejabby spoilers have been vague or misleading.
I think the show is trying to make the storyline *seem* open-ended,
so that a variety of viewers will be curious --
because we really don't know what's going to happen.
-- or we're trying to GUESS, based on our preferences.

Obviously the writers have some sort of plan, but they don't seem to want us to know what it is yet.

but a whole SOD article entitled...

EJ to Abby move on....and it doesn't happen!... Wait for IT....nada
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Today was the first time I really bought into the Jordan/Rafe pairing. I haven't been opposed to them but they've never really drawn me in. The whole fake boyfriend/cat conversation coupled with Rafe's jealousy was great. GG isn't always my favorite actor, but he does do irritation and jealousy well. It was one of the reasons I liked him on Passions.
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crookedhalo
Feb 13 2014, 01:00 AM
nananana7
Feb 13 2014, 12:47 AM
crookedhalo
Feb 13 2014, 12:35 AM
Quote:
 
EJ encourages Abigail to move on
did I miss this? they talked about what they did... She asked if it was a mistake because of Sami... if not for Sami...would it be. He says lets not to do the what if's ....I'm engaged to Sami.

Not, Abby don't go there, I'm in love with Sami and that is something you will have to accept, I was waiting, tick tick tick, got nothing... what is up with the Ejabby spoilers that don't happen. No fighting attraction, No Abby initiating Jack...didn't JS say he didn't initiate something... Have they been doing some rewrites? what is going on?

What about the SOD article, what's up with this story??

Where was EJ saying Abby you have to move on from me? All I heard, was EJ trying to make Abby feel good about herself.
All the Ejabby spoilers have been vague or misleading.
I think the show is trying to make the storyline *seem* open-ended,
so that a variety of viewers will be curious --
because we really don't know what's going to happen.
-- or we're trying to GUESS, based on our preferences.

Obviously the writers have some sort of plan, but they don't seem to want us to know what it is yet.

but a whole SOD article entitled...

EJ to Abby move on....and it doesn't happen!... Wait for IT....nada

EJ saying he is gonna mend bridges with Samantha and that he is engaged to her is the same as to tell Abby to move on. I also think Abby saying it hurts and would it still be a mistake if he wasnīt engaged that she saw it as him breaking it off with her. It seems the SOD article was missleading do I didnīt get the feeling that they were fighting their attraction but just that they cared about each other.
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greeneyedgirl
Feb 12 2014, 01:12 PM
I have a bad feeling about the way the show ended for Nicole and Eric--- Days don't go there!!!

And ABigail honey men usually don't want a girl that is so desperate and has to be reassured 10 times in every conversation what a good person you are. DESPERATE much?
I see Abby as honestly assessing how she sees herself.All EJ has to do to end their physical relationship is keep his mouth shut after he tells her that he is working things out with his fiancee and keep his hands to himself and his distance from Abby instead of rubbing flour off her cheeking,asking her not to go when she attempts to leave.
and putting his arms around her when she tears up wondering what is going happen to JJ,and constantly telling her she is a good person who made a mistake.I have lost count of the times EJ has followed Abby after she has walked away from him,the number of times he has moved closer to her and touched her,and times he has asked her to wait,stop,don't go when she has attempted to leave him on her own or after his statement that they should not see each other again.
I like the fact that Abby is being honest with EJ about her feelings for him after he told her he wanted to work things out with Sami and with herself about what she wants.
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Aliaron
Feb 12 2014, 08:58 PM
Kaha
Feb 12 2014, 06:44 PM
Aliaron
Feb 12 2014, 06:27 PM
Halloween Family
Feb 12 2014, 05:00 PM
Loved the way Blake Berris delivered that line to Sami "Look at her now, she still wants me…" #SickFuck!
I would love it if Sami realized how Nick/Gabi is mirroring her relationship with EJ. Instead of always going on about what a good guy he is, which just continues to ring false. Neither relationship is love. Its all obsession and weak minds. Some self-realization would be awesome. Especially if it happened while talking to Gabi about how screwed up she is to even think about giving Nick another chance.
I don't think Gabi/Nick relationship is mirroring EJ/Sami relationship. Maybe at a superficial level. EJ might be obsessed with Sami and they might have an unhealthy relationship but he doesn't control her. While Nick was controlling Gabi since the start of their relationship. He thinks for her and makes decisions for her, and all under the guise of looking out for her interest.

Both relationships are dysfunctional in their own way. Nick exhibits classic abuser signs, while what EJ did to Sami is just regular soap villain stuff.
EJ totally tries to control Sami. Look at it now. He's cheating on her yet demanding she change HER ways so they can move on. He's lying. He's cheating. But she must change? Their relationship started with him trying to control her (the black glove, the rape) and it continues.

I don't know how what EJ did to Sami through the years not be considered abuse? Physical (the rape/Rafe 2 rape). Emotional (tell Johnny you don't love him). Psychological (the torment, the threats and pretty much everything else).

The only difference between EJ and Nick is the writers acknowledge what the write for nick while ignoring and constantly erasing what they have written for EJ.

What EJ done through the years is abuse but he has done it to Sami when not being together with her. I think their relationship mostly been good after getting together. I think EJ come off a little controlling when he close the door and didnīt wanted Sami to leave on her business tripp, but he hasnīt been anywhere as controlling as Nick has to Gabi who come off as a psychopath. EJ cheating on Sami is a bad thing to do but I donīt see how that is controlling, nor is him saying that things has to change since itīs obvious they canīt go on the way they have either they need to move on or break up.
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I finally had a chance to watch the Kambi-Perky scenes.

I wanted to see how the storyline was playing out, so I watched for that. It was cleverly done, but ...

... but I hated it, and I'm sorry I watched.

I hate hate hate Nick. I don't think I'll ever watch another scene with him in it. The actor does a good job but I hate the character.

I've watched soaps on and off for years. From reading here, I gather that Nick was first in Salem a few years ago when he was a nice guy or something and that's why lots of you adore him? see ... I wasn't watching his first time around.

So all I know is this *current* version of Nick. And he's horrid. Nothing worthwhile about him at all for me. To me he's a sadistic homophobic misogynistic pig. who manipulates people and has no conscience. I refuse to watch him again. If i have to miss parts of major storylines, oh well. I could not stand his abuse of Gabi today.

If you are not following what I mean, I can give parallel examples:

Many many years ago, I liked Sami because she used to be feisty with a good heart. For a long time, I tried to follow her storylines but I finally decided that original Sami has been replaced by a podperson. When I watch "the character referred to as Sami" -- I have to pretend it's someone else, or I want to puke.

Another example -- in the opposite direction .... EJ. I knew what EJ did to characters (rape, organ theft, and all kinds of crap) in his early days on the show, forcing people to do horrific things, with no conscience. Therefore I couldn't stomach him at all in any storyline.

I can stomach EJ with Abby only if I *IMAGINE* that that she's just having a brief fun hot fling -- but she's not seriously interested in him. No idea what the writers are going for, but that's how I endure it. Even then, I don't look at him. I look at her. If the writers try to make Abby accept EJ's evilness, then I'm gone.

In general I regard EJ to be a horrible character. I've never enjoyed villains on any show ever in my life. Just not my thing.

Yet some viewers started watching the show within only the past year or two, and therefore, they perceive EJ a someone who seems to love Samantha. They see EJ as a great guy. This is mind-boggling to me.

Yet I understand ... because it's the same thing .... in reverse ....as my issue with Nick.
Edited by nananana7, Feb 13 2014, 05:04 AM.
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KweenBoda
Feb 12 2014, 01:25 PM
Whether Andrew went rogue or not the point is SHE hired him and she is held accountable for his actions. It's like when someone hires someone to rob a house and one of the occupants gets killed in the fray..the person who hired the criminal IS held responsible. You can't say BUT I NEVER meant for someone to die etc.
So Stefano and EJ are responsible for the murder of Fay Walker.
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AidanGreensFan
Feb 12 2014, 01:55 PM
Best comment I've seen about Abby unable to let go of the D "chad must have been the world's worst lay"
I don't think Chad was that bad.EJ is just so much better having had a lot more practice with experience partners(Kate,Sami,Nicole,Taylor).Chad only had high school Mia,virgin Abby,and been around the block Melanie but I don't think he and Melanie were together long enough for him to teach him anything.
Edited by BeeBee, Feb 13 2014, 02:49 AM.
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BeeBee
Feb 13 2014, 02:31 AM
KweenBoda
Feb 12 2014, 01:25 PM
Whether Andrew went rogue or not the point is SHE hired him and she is held accountable for his actions. It's like when someone hires someone to rob a house and one of the occupants gets killed in the fray..the person who hired the criminal IS held responsible. You can't say BUT I NEVER meant for someone to die etc.
So Stefano and EJ are responsible for the murder of Fay Walker.

Maybe according to US law, but at least in Sweden you can say I never meant for someone to die, if you hire someone to rob a house and someone gets killed you only gets charged with robbery not murder if that is all you are quilty of.
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S loves EJ
Feb 13 2014, 02:02 AM
crookedhalo
Feb 13 2014, 01:00 AM
nananana7
Feb 13 2014, 12:47 AM
crookedhalo
Feb 13 2014, 12:35 AM

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All the Ejabby spoilers have been vague or misleading.
I think the show is trying to make the storyline *seem* open-ended,
so that a variety of viewers will be curious --
because we really don't know what's going to happen.
-- or we're trying to GUESS, based on our preferences.

Obviously the writers have some sort of plan, but they don't seem to want us to know what it is yet.

but a whole SOD article entitled...

EJ to Abby move on....and it doesn't happen!... Wait for IT....nada

EJ saying he is gonna mend bridges with Samantha and that he is engaged to her is the same as to tell Abby to move on. I also think Abby saying it hurts and would it still be a mistake if he wasnīt engaged that she saw it as him breaking it off with her. It seems the SOD article was missleading do I didnīt get the feeling that they were fighting their attraction but just that they cared about each other.
"EJ saying he is gonna mend bridges with Samantha and that he is engaged to her is the same as to tell Abby to move on."

I think this is an example of we see what we want to see. For me, it doesn't say 'move on.'
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Feb 13 2014, 02:17 AM
Aliaron
Feb 12 2014, 08:58 PM
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Feb 12 2014, 06:44 PM
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Feb 12 2014, 06:27 PM

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I don't think Gabi/Nick relationship is mirroring EJ/Sami relationship. Maybe at a superficial level. EJ might be obsessed with Sami and they might have an unhealthy relationship but he doesn't control her. While Nick was controlling Gabi since the start of their relationship. He thinks for her and makes decisions for her, and all under the guise of looking out for her interest.

Both relationships are dysfunctional in their own way. Nick exhibits classic abuser signs, while what EJ did to Sami is just regular soap villain stuff.
EJ totally tries to control Sami. Look at it now. He's cheating on her yet demanding she change HER ways so they can move on. He's lying. He's cheating. But she must change? Their relationship started with him trying to control her (the black glove, the rape) and it continues.

I don't know how what EJ did to Sami through the years not be considered abuse? Physical (the rape/Rafe 2 rape). Emotional (tell Johnny you don't love him). Psychological (the torment, the threats and pretty much everything else).

The only difference between EJ and Nick is the writers acknowledge what the write for nick while ignoring and constantly erasing what they have written for EJ.
What EJ done through the years is abuse but he has done it to Sami when not being together with her.
I think their relationship mostly been good after getting together. I think EJ come off a little controlling when he close the door and didnīt wanted Sami to leave on her business tripp, but he hasnīt been anywhere as controlling as Nick has to Gabi who come off as a psychopath. EJ cheating on Sami is a bad thing to do but I donīt see how that is controlling, nor is him saying that things has to change since itīs obvious they canīt go on the way they have either they need to move on or break up.
"What EJ done through the years is abuse but he has done it to Sami when not being together with her. I think their relationship mostly been good after getting together."

How is that okay? What that says to me is that he could abuse again if she ever dares leave him.
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iheartwilson
Feb 13 2014, 04:00 AM
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Feb 13 2014, 02:17 AM
Aliaron
Feb 12 2014, 08:58 PM
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Feb 12 2014, 06:44 PM

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EJ totally tries to control Sami. Look at it now. He's cheating on her yet demanding she change HER ways so they can move on. He's lying. He's cheating. But she must change? Their relationship started with him trying to control her (the black glove, the rape) and it continues.

I don't know how what EJ did to Sami through the years not be considered abuse? Physical (the rape/Rafe 2 rape). Emotional (tell Johnny you don't love him). Psychological (the torment, the threats and pretty much everything else).

The only difference between EJ and Nick is the writers acknowledge what the write for nick while ignoring and constantly erasing what they have written for EJ.
What EJ done through the years is abuse but he has done it to Sami when not being together with her.
I think their relationship mostly been good after getting together. I think EJ come off a little controlling when he close the door and didnīt wanted Sami to leave on her business tripp, but he hasnīt been anywhere as controlling as Nick has to Gabi who come off as a psychopath. EJ cheating on Sami is a bad thing to do but I donīt see how that is controlling, nor is him saying that things has to change since itīs obvious they canīt go on the way they have either they need to move on or break up.
"What EJ done through the years is abuse but he has done it to Sami when not being together with her. I think their relationship mostly been good after getting together."

How is that okay? What that says to me is that he could abuse again if she ever dares leave him.

I never said it was okey for EJ to be abusive in the past or in the future, but I think they have written Ejamiīs relationship to be a pretty normal loving couple while being a together, and in the past couple of years EJ has been written to be better than in the past he hasnīt down any serious crimes lately. Nick is written to be a crazy controll freak who wants to controll every step Gabi makes and how she is suppose to feel while EJ is written to be rather normal now but he hasnīt always been written that way.
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