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Topic Started: Feb 14 2014, 05:16 PM (19,093 Views)
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daysjahvu
Feb 15 2014, 11:58 AM
Ok, Eric is just barely out of the priesthood, so that is apples vs oranges. And EJ is EJ, he is not a good person and he owns that.

And what I laugh at is EJ has repeatedly told Abby that he is a bad man. He even threatened her with the "You're playing a very dangerous game and you picked the wrong one to play with. And you will lose, Abigail." And now she's shocked & upset that Sami & EJ are together in every sense of the word and she's thrown to the wayside?

So she's going to tell Sami that she & EJ have a secret? Sounds like more blackmail screwing to keep quiet about their secret? This girl is every mother's nightmare...absolutely no self-respect, no respect for children or committed others in a relationship, extorting sex in return for the favor of not talking to Hope. Yikes! And yes, EJ is to blame too, but Abigail has been written & portrayed as the self-righteous, supposed morally upright one & if she stopped seeking out EJ/daring him to have sex, this would never have gone past a one afternoon STFU-about -Nick stand.
I just don't think that men should be painted with a broad brush with the saying, "Oh he's going to cheat because he's a man".
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lazydazes
Feb 15 2014, 11:21 AM
Abby needs to keep on the big girl panties. She knew what she was getting into. What does she expect? There's clearly nothing mixed about the situation. EJ is engaged, living, and committed to Sami. And what does she really know about EJ really? She doesn't know him at all. A couple of chance meetings and him reading a few quotes doesn't equate "knowing" someone. She's just been screwing his eyeballs out and that's pretty much it. Did she really think that EJ/Sami wouldn't sleep together again? Perhaps she really is truly naive. And what happened to this grand love she supposedly had for Chad? Sure didn't take her long to get over that. Kinda like Jennifer got over Jack in a New York minute. I wish Chad would come back and rake her hypocritical ass over the coals. Wasn't she the one ranting about his/Cameron's so-called "deception" and dishonesty? :glare: The minute he takes off, she's screwing his brother.
As for EJ, he's like any man---when its offered for free, he takes it. Not gonna find too many that will pass up the opportunity to get the itch scratched. And it happens everyday. People getting laid and not having an emotional investment.
Booty Call 101.
I hated Abby with Chad because he dumped her for Melanie and only wanted her when she moved on with Chad.I watched practically every episode and don't fast forward.
Chad was Abby's first lover and they dated until she found out he lied to Cameron but I don't recall Chad or Abby ever saying "I love you.".Perhaps I missed it.Is there a clip out of one of them saying this to the other.I would be interested in seeing it if someone has seen it.I don't believe there are that many women who remain in a long term relationship with their first lover.I think most grow apart and move on.Abby moved on from Chad and Cameron rather quickly because I don't think she loved either one of them,I believe she no longer wanted to be a virgin and Chad or Cameron were her choices at the time she made that decision.I think Abby is right in that most women would be attracted to EJ sexually.She saw the opportunity and took it.If EJ had not contacted Abby again after she left the cabin the second time and took the ferry back on her own,their affair would have ended that day even though he told her that he did not want to look at her because of the feelings he gets when he looks at her and he does not want to see the hurt he caused her.When he went to the church before the christening,EJ approached Abby and told her he slept with her because he could not stop himself.He did go tallk to Abby again while at the church because Sami and Kate asked him to do so but it was Abby who walked out of the room when he got to close to her.It was EJ who followed her to the storage room then grabbed her,kissed her,pushed her against the shelves then onto the table where he continued to kiss her and unzip his pants.It was EJ who followed her to the office when she walked away from the nurse's station without saying a word to him as he arrived for the board meeeting.It was EJ who followed her again after he argument with Adrienne.It was EJ who told her to show up at his home where he lived with his children,the mother of his children,who happens to be his fiancee when Abby said she would make an excuse to avoid showing up there.It was EJ who stopped her when she wanted to clean up the kitchen and leave.He did not have to tell her anything about his relationship with Sami he could have just let her leave and that be the end of it instead of rubbing flour from her cheek and putting his arm around her when she got upset about JJ.
I don't mind if Abby does something to put EJ in the postion of having to choos her or Sami.I just want her to move on without clinging if he clearly lets her know by his words and actions he is really choosing Sami over her.I want her to move on with Ben or whoever if EJ does this and I am interested to see what happends between Abby and the new guy.If she puts her experience with EJ behind her and moves on with new guy I am interested in seeing how that plays out.I am also interested to see how the pictures of almost cabinsex round 2 come into play in the EJ/Sami,Abby/new guy,and EJ/Abby relationships.EJ may be changing his tune with Sami but he is still lying to her if he does not tell her about the affair even if he chooses not to name the woman and as almost everyone has predicted,it is likely to blow up in his face.Cannot wait to see Nick punish EJ.I also want to know how many people learn of the EJ/Abby affair and how they EJ and Abby behave once it becomes known and how everyone in Salem reacts to it.Its still must see TV even if there is no more EJ/Abby sex/almost sex.I recall the scene where EJ followed Abby into the office before the shower sex where she told him if it was over,she can handle it.I hope the writers back up her statement.I don't want her stalking EJ or Sami.If he clearly shows its over she needs to move on sooner rather than later.
I am going to reserve judgement on the EJ/Sami sex scene but I don't have high hopes since even their kisses make me cringe if they are more than a mere touching of the lips.I have been repulsed by every sex scene they have had since griefsex and they got back together in last year.I couldn't bring myself to watch the ones I missed unintentionally and intentionally with the Colleen/Santeen nausea inducing crap.By the by did Colleen and Santeen have a squish name? If so,what was it?
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Feb 14 2014, 08:41 PM
"I know you will never hurt me again"

Me: MWUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Marlena and Roman better give Abby the best thank you present there is to offer for helping to destroy Ejami! They're prayers were answered! :yahoo:
They should give all three of them a celebratory gift :blulaugh: woo hoo
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Feb 14 2014, 11:22 PM
I notice EJ isn't referred to as a pathetic home wrecking whore, slut, skank, now, or in the past when he destroyed happy homes.

And Sami looks down on other women when she has done much worse than them. She considers herself someone who only "makes mistakes" or "screws up" and she isn't sorry for how her actions have hurt people.
Not too mention the times he tried to kill or maim people.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

marie1969
Feb 15 2014, 10:31 AM
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Feb 15 2014, 10:18 AM
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Feb 15 2014, 09:47 AM
DayDreamer
Feb 15 2014, 03:19 AM
Okay I have finally seen it.

First,.. the EJAMI sex was well.. boring. Of course that was only a few seconds. I didn't see any heat to be honest. Maybe I am just tried to see EJAMI together.

Secondly,.. what weird face EJ had with Abby. I am not to trill to see him in that kind of situation. Just makes him a total ass (I know he is suppose to be prince of darkness - but there is differences on how you handle things), really,... but I guess I have to see the complete conversation to do a proper judgement. I think she had a right to question him like that. Question is how she is going to handle it.

EDIT: Btw.. what that James almost laughing at the end? Couldn't he hold a straight face? LOL
I guess it depends on what one perceives as hot or boring. Some folks (not you specifically) are into kinky sex such bonding, spanking, dominance/submission. I say that because I read some folks hoping they would go there. If that is one's fantasy, of course they would find those type of kinkiness hot. Nothing wrong with that if it is your particular brand of scotch.

For me personally, I enjoy love scenes with two people in love with each other who choose to express that love with passion, tenderness and of course off the charts chemistry which Ejami has in spades. I find that extremely hot and sexy and romantic. Being fucked in random places by a married/engaged man is not my idea of hotness. Then again, I have never been into casual sex or into unavailable men. I find it rather disgusting to be honest. To me lovemaking should be special and meaningful not just about animal lust, but it might just be me. you know different folks, different strokes...
In fiction, I have found some stories that had adultery to be hot and even rooted for that couple. John and Marlena back in the day for one quick example and Fitz and Olivia on Scandal as another.

There is a reason for doing what they do though (cheating). I understand the character motivations and their desire to be with one another on more than just a surface level for good sex. That story makes for even better sex scenes (conference table and Vermont) too.

For me, I have to understand where the characters are coming from and for Abby it makes zero sense. EJ has more motive but I still have one big issue that still makes it WTFery for me.

So I can't buy what they are selling with EJ and the girl.
IA. I think the difference for me is that Jarlena were in love. Even though what they did was morally wrong, but because we knew there were deep unresolved feelings underneath, not just animal lust. Same with Ejami griefsex and Fitz and and Olivia. What all these people have in common is that their lovemaking is more than just random meaningless sex, they actually loved each and wanted to be together on some level but circumstances kept them apart.
I don't buy Ejami loved each other during grief sex...talk about a story without motivation...she was MARRIED and claiming to love her husband and she fucked someone who said she hated instead of having sex with the person she loved as she thought her son died. We saw Sami act when she lost a child and she didn't go and fuck Ej then.....so yeah, I get how some people don't like Ejabby because it apparently makes no sense, there is no reasoning and no explanation for the affair...I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Sami would ever look at Ej and not shoot him in the balls...just saying.
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Feb 15 2014, 12:47 AM
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Feb 15 2014, 12:33 AM
Two random observations about the promo:

1) EJ seems to look guiltier when he tells Abby that he is sleeping with Sami again than when Sami tells him that she knows he wouldn't hurt her again.

2) I love the paintings on the wall behind EJ (when he talks with Abby).
I've learn to base nothing off of a 15 second promo. Just like it doesn't show Ej giving Abigail mixed signals in the promo but that doesn't mean he won't next week.
Remember a few weeks back when the "are you going to marry me or not" EJami promo came out, and everyone was pissed that EJ was about to use the evidence his cleaners found at the river to blackmail Sami into marrying him?
Edited by six, Feb 15 2014, 12:53 PM.
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Feb 15 2014, 11:13 AM
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Feb 15 2014, 11:05 AM
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Feb 15 2014, 08:34 AM
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Feb 14 2014, 07:54 PM

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I don't see why EJ needs to spell out what Sami, and everyone else, already knows. Everyone knows Kristen made the video. Everybody knows who Chyka is, now. And now that EJ is admitting that Kristen's actions were unconscionable, that means he's admitting that she raped him. That, paired with Eric's enthusiasm in the video, means that he was drugged. Eric can't get back into the priesthood on EJ's word. He needs the proof Nicole is hiding.
He went out of his way to insist the sex was consensual, and to make snide comments about forming "prayer circles" for him. He went out of his way to taunt Eric to his face about being raped. Nicole and Eric were almost murdered by Dr. Chyka, something EJ could have prevented.
While all those things are true, they're irrelevant to the discussion, which was about which things, if any, that EJ had yet to confess to knowing about.
But the fact that Sami now knows instead of just suspecting that he knew when he was making jokes about her brother's rape, as opposed to making jokes if he really thought it was consensual and was angrily defending his sister, just makes Sami look worse.

It's hard to ruin something that has already been destroyed, but the writers are just grinding Sami's character further into the dirt. She once loved her twin brother to the point that she could feel when he was in danger. The fact that she's going to happily reward EJ for his behavior towards Eric is just gross.
Edited by TreasureCove, Feb 15 2014, 01:04 PM.
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lazydazes
Feb 15 2014, 12:00 PM
Nothing changes the fact that EJ/Abby are just having sex. They're screwing each other behind Sami's back. Booty Call 101. Plain and simple. That's the situation. I just don't find it credible that as much energy and effort that EJ's put into getting Sami that he'd just dismiss her after a few screws with a young naive girl. He didn't even do that when he was married to Nicole whom he supposedly 'loved'. That's why its puzzling that these New York minutes trysts with Abby are supposed to make him "see the light" and walk away from Sami. I'm just not buying it. Another point. Shoot, I've been watching throughout the whole LumiEjoleEjamicus sagas and know the score on all counts. And for me, none of those mishaps, shenanigans, etc. have anything to do with this Ejami/Ejabby situation. Okay, as I was saying...why would Ejabby spell the end of Ejami? Ejami have done some...heck I don't know how to label it, thangs to each other, and it didn't make them turn away from each other. So, in my opinion, I don't see this affair as something that they just couldn't get over. They've gotten over much worse.
As for Abby getting pregnant, does every blooming storyline on the show have to evolve to that? This is the 21st century, not the 1800's. With all the injection shots and things that you can get nowadays, there shouldn't be so many pregnancies on daytime.
No to an Ejabby baby.
It is really refreshing to read someone's POV who has no horse in this race. I find myself enjoying posts from those who are not invested in this story one way or the other as they seem to have a clearer take on the situation.

I agree with every point you made specially about this affair being just another speed bump in the road for Ejami as they have been through much worst. I think Sami will forgive Ej (after she goes crazy on both their asses) because she loves him for one thing and forgiveness is a sign of strength and I consider Sami is a strong person. I think Ejami will weather this storm and come out on the other side stronger than before.
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six
Feb 15 2014, 12:52 PM
greeneyedgirl
Feb 15 2014, 12:47 AM
Ghani
Feb 15 2014, 12:33 AM
Two random observations about the promo:

1) EJ seems to look guiltier when he tells Abby that he is sleeping with Sami again than when Sami tells him that she knows he wouldn't hurt her again.

2) I love the paintings on the wall behind EJ (when he talks with Abby).
I've learn to base nothing off of a 15 second promo. Just like it doesn't show Ej giving Abigail mixed signals in the promo but that doesn't mean he won't next week.
Remember a few weeks back when the "are you going to marry me or not" EJami promo came out, and everyone was pissed that EJ was about to use the evidence his cleaners found at the river to blackmail Sami into marrying him?
I don't want to be the fly in the ointment but I was not pissed.If he had blacknailed her into marrying him,I would have seen it as par for the course given their past history,it would not have bothered me in the least.
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BeeBee
Feb 15 2014, 01:02 PM
six
Feb 15 2014, 12:52 PM
greeneyedgirl
Feb 15 2014, 12:47 AM
Ghani
Feb 15 2014, 12:33 AM
Two random observations about the promo:

1) EJ seems to look guiltier when he tells Abby that he is sleeping with Sami again than when Sami tells him that she knows he wouldn't hurt her again.

2) I love the paintings on the wall behind EJ (when he talks with Abby).
I've learn to base nothing off of a 15 second promo. Just like it doesn't show Ej giving Abigail mixed signals in the promo but that doesn't mean he won't next week.
Remember a few weeks back when the "are you going to marry me or not" EJami promo came out, and everyone was pissed that EJ was about to use the evidence his cleaners found at the river to blackmail Sami into marrying him?
I don't want to be the fly in the ointment but I was not pissed.If he had blacknailed her into marrying him,I would have seen it as par for the course given their past history,it would not have bothered me in the least.
Fine LOL. Change it to "everyone* thought etc." The point is that the promo was misleading.

*And for the record, I never actually thought that was where the story was going, but I'm trying to keep this brief. ;)
Edited by six, Feb 15 2014, 01:17 PM.
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Feb 15 2014, 01:00 PM
lazydazes
Feb 15 2014, 12:00 PM
Nothing changes the fact that EJ/Abby are just having sex. They're screwing each other behind Sami's back. Booty Call 101. Plain and simple. That's the situation. I just don't find it credible that as much energy and effort that EJ's put into getting Sami that he'd just dismiss her after a few screws with a young naive girl. He didn't even do that when he was married to Nicole whom he supposedly 'loved'. That's why its puzzling that these New York minutes trysts with Abby are supposed to make him "see the light" and walk away from Sami. I'm just not buying it. Another point. Shoot, I've been watching throughout the whole LumiEjoleEjamicus sagas and know the score on all counts. And for me, none of those mishaps, shenanigans, etc. have anything to do with this Ejami/Ejabby situation. Okay, as I was saying...why would Ejabby spell the end of Ejami? Ejami have done some...heck I don't know how to label it, thangs to each other, and it didn't make them turn away from each other. So, in my opinion, I don't see this affair as something that they just couldn't get over. They've gotten over much worse.
As for Abby getting pregnant, does every blooming storyline on the show have to evolve to that? This is the 21st century, not the 1800's. With all the injection shots and things that you can get nowadays, there shouldn't be so many pregnancies on daytime.
No to an Ejabby baby.
It is really refreshing to read someone's POV who has no horse in this race. I find myself enjoying posts from those who are not invested in this story one way or the other as they seem to have a clearer take on the situation.

I agree with every point you made specially about this affair being just another speed bump in the road for Ejami as they have been through much worst. I think Sami will forgive Ej (after she goes crazy on both their asses) because she loves him for one thing and forgiveness is a sign of strength and I consider Sami is a strong person. I think Ejami will weather this storm and come out on the other side stronger than before.
Lazedays,I just wanted to get clarlification ,if you don't have a problem providing it.Is it true that "you have no horse in this race"? I may have misinterpreted your post but it seemed to be definitely pro EJ/Sami.
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Feb 15 2014, 12:54 PM
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Feb 15 2014, 11:13 AM
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Feb 15 2014, 08:34 AM

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He went out of his way to insist the sex was consensual, and to make snide comments about forming "prayer circles" for him. He went out of his way to taunt Eric to his face about being raped. Nicole and Eric were almost murdered by Dr. Chyka, something EJ could have prevented.
While all those things are true, they're irrelevant to the discussion, which was about which things, if any, that EJ had yet to confess to knowing about.
But the fact that Sami now knows instead of just suspecting that he knew when he was making jokes about her brother's rape, as opposed to making jokes if he really thought it was consensual and was angrily defending his sister, just makes Sami look worse.

It's hard to ruin something that has already been destroyed, but the writers are just grinding Sami's character further into the dirt. She once loved her twin brother to the point that she could feel when he was in danger. The fact that she's going to happily reward EJ for his behavior towards Eric is just gross.
Sami knew he knew, from the beginning. That was the entire reason for the standoff. She pushed him away for months because of it, but she's over it, now.
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Feb 15 2014, 11:57 AM
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Feb 15 2014, 11:29 AM
I guess I don't understand what is wrong with calling the other woman degrading and vile names. Back in the day, I was in a relationship where I was with a guy for 6 months and he cheated on me. He got the brunt of my wrath, no doubt because I was in a relationship with him. I broke up with his cheating ass but the girl he cheated on me with was NOT innocent and I did call her every name under the sun because she deserved it too.

A few years later, I worked at a bank and this amazingly HOT and flirty guy always came in and finally asked me out on a date. I said yes and we had a great night until we stopped at a gas station and he ran in to get us some drinks. He left his phone and while he was in the station, a girl called him named "Megan". The picture on his phone when she called showed a pretty blonde girl with a chubby, adorable baby boy. I confronted him about it and she said it was his sister and nephew. Nope. Come to find out it was his wife and son. He was a low, down dirty dog and even though he tried to continue to see me under his wife's nose, I said HELL TO THE NO!! I really dealt with moral issues, more than Abigail sitting outside the pub staring at pictures of her mom and brother on her phone. I really wanted this guy and we had a great chemistry but if he would cheat on his beautiful wife and baby, what would stop him from cheating on me too? I didn't want to be "a homewrecking whore" "a tramp" "a slut" so I kept myself out of that situation. Abigail could keep herself out of the situation just the same but she chooses not to so she deserves every horrible name one can call her.
You didn't even know the wife and the baby, but Abby knows the people who will be hurt by this affair and she doesn't care. She also doesn't care about her dignity. After the shower sex, Sami's near miss and the tacky get up, and EJ constantly urging her to leave, she should have cared and stayed away. Instead, she feebly seeks reassurance from EJ and continues to say that she still wants him. Well, you can want someone or something but decide it's not good for you and not get it.

I just want Abby to get a clue and to decide that she's better than someone who has sex with another woman's man in a hospital storage room.

There are people that cheat that deserves to be called slut or pig, but I donīt think that is automatically the case everytime someone cheat. There are people that donīt have morals and dont care if someone gets hurt, but I also think that you canīt help who you fall inlove with and that you can get caught up in passion and in an affair without it making you a bad person. I can understand if a woman would choose to be the other woman rather than to end up alone. Abby has been written to be a rather good person with morals and have been question her own actions. I do think the term homewrecking whore implies that itīs the mistress fault if the home get wrecked while I think itīs more the cheating husband fault. Men should be able to think with their head and not just what is between their legs. I at least donīt think Abby been acting as much a slut this far but it will make her look more bad if she becomes gray and donīt accept EJīs decision to be with Sami. Still itīs not like Sami is a model citizien I think she looked more like a slut going between several men in a short period of time.
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Feb 15 2014, 01:00 PM
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Feb 15 2014, 12:00 PM
Nothing changes the fact that EJ/Abby are just having sex. They're screwing each other behind Sami's back. Booty Call 101. Plain and simple. That's the situation. I just don't find it credible that as much energy and effort that EJ's put into getting Sami that he'd just dismiss her after a few screws with a young naive girl. He didn't even do that when he was married to Nicole whom he supposedly 'loved'. That's why its puzzling that these New York minutes trysts with Abby are supposed to make him "see the light" and walk away from Sami. I'm just not buying it. Another point. Shoot, I've been watching throughout the whole LumiEjoleEjamicus sagas and know the score on all counts. And for me, none of those mishaps, shenanigans, etc. have anything to do with this Ejami/Ejabby situation. Okay, as I was saying...why would Ejabby spell the end of Ejami? Ejami have done some...heck I don't know how to label it, thangs to each other, and it didn't make them turn away from each other. So, in my opinion, I don't see this affair as something that they just couldn't get over. They've gotten over much worse.
As for Abby getting pregnant, does every blooming storyline on the show have to evolve to that? This is the 21st century, not the 1800's. With all the injection shots and things that you can get nowadays, there shouldn't be so many pregnancies on daytime.
No to an Ejabby baby.
It is really refreshing to read someone's POV who has no horse in this race. I find myself enjoying posts from those who are not invested in this story one way or the other as they seem to have a clearer take on the situation.

I agree with every point you made specially about this affair being just another speed bump in the road for Ejami as they have been through much worst. I think Sami will forgive Ej (after she goes crazy on both their asses) because she loves him for one thing and forgiveness is a sign of strength and I consider Sami is a strong person. I think Ejami will weather this storm and come out on the other side stronger than before.

I think Ejami might have weater the storm if AS were not leaving the show.
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Feb 15 2014, 12:54 PM
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Feb 15 2014, 11:13 AM
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He went out of his way to insist the sex was consensual, and to make snide comments about forming "prayer circles" for him. He went out of his way to taunt Eric to his face about being raped. Nicole and Eric were almost murdered by Dr. Chyka, something EJ could have prevented.
While all those things are true, they're irrelevant to the discussion, which was about which things, if any, that EJ had yet to confess to knowing about.
But the fact that Sami now knows instead of just suspecting that he knew when he was making jokes about her brother's rape, as opposed to making jokes if he really thought it was consensual and was angrily defending his sister, just makes Sami look worse.

It's hard to ruin something that has already been destroyed, but the writers are just grinding Sami's character further into the dirt. She once loved her twin brother to the point that she could feel when he was in danger. The fact that she's going to happily reward EJ for his behavior towards Eric is just gross.


LOL Eric is about to enter a relationship with the same woman who kidnapped his twin's baby girl, so I don't see Eric putting Sami before his love for Nicole. Eric also told the monk (I believe) that he loves Nicole more than he loves his family and it is perfectly fine with me.

But I don't feel like sami should sacrifice her relationship and her future with the man she loves for a brother who has made it clear where his priorities are. If Eric can love Nicole more than Sami, I see nothing wrong with Sami loving Ej more than Eric. Quite frankly, I thought Sami was stupid to allow the Kristen/Eric mess to affect her relationship with Ej in the first place. Eric did not deserve that kind of loyalty and he certainly would not sacrifice his happiness for Sami.

Sami's family do not care about her all that much, I have waited so long for Sami to put Ej and their happiness before the Bradys. I realize that Ej has messed up big time, but I still want Sami to choose him above everyone else. at the end of the day, when Sami messes up (and she has done that a lot) Ej does not blink and stands by her no matter what. I want her to stop blinking when Ej messes up and fight for her man instead.
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Feb 15 2014, 12:21 PM
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Feb 15 2014, 11:21 AM
Abby needs to keep on the big girl panties. She knew what she was getting into. What does she expect? There's clearly nothing mixed about the situation. EJ is engaged, living, and committed to Sami. And what does she really know about EJ really? She doesn't know him at all. A couple of chance meetings and him reading a few quotes doesn't equate "knowing" someone. She's just been screwing his eyeballs out and that's pretty much it. Did she really think that EJ/Sami wouldn't sleep together again? Perhaps she really is truly naive. And what happened to this grand love she supposedly had for Chad? Sure didn't take her long to get over that. Kinda like Jennifer got over Jack in a New York minute. I wish Chad would come back and rake her hypocritical ass over the coals. Wasn't she the one ranting about his/Cameron's so-called "deception" and dishonesty? :glare: The minute he takes off, she's screwing his brother.
As for EJ, he's like any man---when its offered for free, he takes it. Not gonna find too many that will pass up the opportunity to get the itch scratched. And it happens everyday. People getting laid and not having an emotional investment.
Booty Call 101.
I hated Abby with Chad because he dumped her for Melanie and only wanted her when she moved on with Chad.I watched practically every episode and don't fast forward.
Chad was Abby's first lover and they dated until she found out he lied to Cameron but I don't recall Chad or Abby ever saying "I love you.".Perhaps I missed it.Is there a clip out of one of them saying this to the other.I would be interested in seeing it if someone has seen it.I don't believe there are that many women who remain in a long term relationship with their first lover.I think most grow apart and move on.Abby moved on from Chad and Cameron rather quickly because I don't think she loved either one of them,I believe she no longer wanted to be a virgin and Chad or Cameron were her choices at the time she made that decision.I think Abby is right in that most women would be attracted to EJ sexually.She saw the opportunity and took it.If EJ had not contacted Abby again after she left the cabin the second time and took the ferry back on her own,their affair would have ended that day even though he told her that he did not want to look at her because of the feelings he gets when he looks at her and he does not want to see the hurt he caused her.When he went to the church before the christening,EJ approached Abby and told her he slept with her because he could not stop himself.He did go tallk to Abby again while at the church because Sami and Kate asked him to do so but it was Abby who walked out of the room when he got to close to her.It was EJ who followed her to the storage room then grabbed her,kissed her,pushed her against the shelves then onto the table where he continued to kiss her and unzip his pants.It was EJ who followed her to the office when she walked away from the nurse's station without saying a word to him as he arrived for the board meeeting.It was EJ who followed her again after he argument with Adrienne.It was EJ who told her to show up at his home where he lived with his children,the mother of his children,who happens to be his fiancee when Abby said she would make an excuse to avoid showing up there.It was EJ who stopped her when she wanted to clean up the kitchen and leave.He did not have to tell her anything about his relationship with Sami he could have just let her leave and that be the end of it instead of rubbing flour from her cheek and putting his arm around her when she got upset about JJ.
I don't mind if Abby does something to put EJ in the postion of having to choos her or Sami.I just want her to move on without clinging if he clearly lets her know by his words and actions he is really choosing Sami over her.I want her to move on with Ben or whoever if EJ does this and I am interested to see what happends between Abby and the new guy.If she puts her experience with EJ behind her and moves on with new guy I am interested in seeing how that plays out.I am also interested to see how the pictures of almost cabinsex round 2 come into play in the EJ/Sami,Abby/new guy,and EJ/Abby relationships.EJ may be changing his tune with Sami but he is still lying to her if he does not tell her about the affair even if he chooses not to name the woman and as almost everyone has predicted,it is likely to blow up in his face.Cannot wait to see Nick punish EJ.I also want to know how many people learn of the EJ/Abby affair and how they EJ and Abby behave once it becomes known and how everyone in Salem reacts to it.Its still must see TV even if there is no more EJ/Abby sex/almost sex.I recall the scene where EJ followed Abby into the office before the shower sex where she told him if it was over,she can handle it.I hope the writers back up her statement.I don't want her stalking EJ or Sami.If he clearly shows its over she needs to move on sooner rather than later.
I am going to reserve judgement on the EJ/Sami sex scene but I don't have high hopes since even their kisses make me cringe if they are more than a mere touching of the lips.I have been repulsed by every sex scene they have had since griefsex and they got back together in last year.I couldn't bring myself to watch the ones I missed unintentionally and intentionally with the Colleen/Santeen nausea inducing crap.By the by did Colleen and Santeen have a squish name? If so,what was it?
Chad didn't dumb Abby for Melanie. They grew apart and decided to separate. Abby started being infatuated with Austin and Chad fell for Melanie after the website/gambling/kidnapping s/l. He did not cheat on her and run around with Melanie behind her back. It was a mutual brake up before he got together with Melanie.

Here's the beginning of Abby's infatuation with Austen and Chad and Melanie getting close. The end of the video shows everyone longing for someone else than the person they're with (Abby, Chad and Melanie, Rafe and Carrie). Youtube
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Feb 15 2014, 01:41 PM
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Feb 15 2014, 12:21 PM
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Feb 15 2014, 11:21 AM
Abby needs to keep on the big girl panties. She knew what she was getting into. What does she expect? There's clearly nothing mixed about the situation. EJ is engaged, living, and committed to Sami. And what does she really know about EJ really? She doesn't know him at all. A couple of chance meetings and him reading a few quotes doesn't equate "knowing" someone. She's just been screwing his eyeballs out and that's pretty much it. Did she really think that EJ/Sami wouldn't sleep together again? Perhaps she really is truly naive. And what happened to this grand love she supposedly had for Chad? Sure didn't take her long to get over that. Kinda like Jennifer got over Jack in a New York minute. I wish Chad would come back and rake her hypocritical ass over the coals. Wasn't she the one ranting about his/Cameron's so-called "deception" and dishonesty? :glare: The minute he takes off, she's screwing his brother.
As for EJ, he's like any man---when its offered for free, he takes it. Not gonna find too many that will pass up the opportunity to get the itch scratched. And it happens everyday. People getting laid and not having an emotional investment.
Booty Call 101.
I hated Abby with Chad because he dumped her for Melanie and only wanted her when she moved on with Chad.I watched practically every episode and don't fast forward.
Chad was Abby's first lover and they dated until she found out he lied to Cameron but I don't recall Chad or Abby ever saying "I love you.".Perhaps I missed it.Is there a clip out of one of them saying this to the other.I would be interested in seeing it if someone has seen it.I don't believe there are that many women who remain in a long term relationship with their first lover.I think most grow apart and move on.Abby moved on from Chad and Cameron rather quickly because I don't think she loved either one of them,I believe she no longer wanted to be a virgin and Chad or Cameron were her choices at the time she made that decision.I think Abby is right in that most women would be attracted to EJ sexually.She saw the opportunity and took it.If EJ had not contacted Abby again after she left the cabin the second time and took the ferry back on her own,their affair would have ended that day even though he told her that he did not want to look at her because of the feelings he gets when he looks at her and he does not want to see the hurt he caused her.When he went to the church before the christening,EJ approached Abby and told her he slept with her because he could not stop himself.He did go tallk to Abby again while at the church because Sami and Kate asked him to do so but it was Abby who walked out of the room when he got to close to her.It was EJ who followed her to the storage room then grabbed her,kissed her,pushed her against the shelves then onto the table where he continued to kiss her and unzip his pants.It was EJ who followed her to the office when she walked away from the nurse's station without saying a word to him as he arrived for the board meeeting.It was EJ who followed her again after he argument with Adrienne.It was EJ who told her to show up at his home where he lived with his children,the mother of his children,who happens to be his fiancee when Abby said she would make an excuse to avoid showing up there.It was EJ who stopped her when she wanted to clean up the kitchen and leave.He did not have to tell her anything about his relationship with Sami he could have just let her leave and that be the end of it instead of rubbing flour from her cheek and putting his arm around her when she got upset about JJ.
I don't mind if Abby does something to put EJ in the postion of having to choos her or Sami.I just want her to move on without clinging if he clearly lets her know by his words and actions he is really choosing Sami over her.I want her to move on with Ben or whoever if EJ does this and I am interested to see what happends between Abby and the new guy.If she puts her experience with EJ behind her and moves on with new guy I am interested in seeing how that plays out.I am also interested to see how the pictures of almost cabinsex round 2 come into play in the EJ/Sami,Abby/new guy,and EJ/Abby relationships.EJ may be changing his tune with Sami but he is still lying to her if he does not tell her about the affair even if he chooses not to name the woman and as almost everyone has predicted,it is likely to blow up in his face.Cannot wait to see Nick punish EJ.I also want to know how many people learn of the EJ/Abby affair and how they EJ and Abby behave once it becomes known and how everyone in Salem reacts to it.Its still must see TV even if there is no more EJ/Abby sex/almost sex.I recall the scene where EJ followed Abby into the office before the shower sex where she told him if it was over,she can handle it.I hope the writers back up her statement.I don't want her stalking EJ or Sami.If he clearly shows its over she needs to move on sooner rather than later.
I am going to reserve judgement on the EJ/Sami sex scene but I don't have high hopes since even their kisses make me cringe if they are more than a mere touching of the lips.I have been repulsed by every sex scene they have had since griefsex and they got back together in last year.I couldn't bring myself to watch the ones I missed unintentionally and intentionally with the Colleen/Santeen nausea inducing crap.By the by did Colleen and Santeen have a squish name? If so,what was it?
Chad didn't dumb Abby for Melanie. They grew apart and decided to separate. Abby started being infatuated with Austin and Chad fell for Melanie after the website/gambling/kidnapping s/l. He did not cheat on her and run around with Melanie behind her back. It was a mutual brake up before he got together with Melanie.

Here's the beginning of Abby's infatuation with Austen and Chad and Melanie getting close. The end of the video shows everyone longing for someone else than the person they're with (Abby, Chad and Melanie, Rafe and Carrie). Youtube
But they grew apart after Abby saw him kiss Melanie and Chad start falling for Melanie after that Abby start have feeling for Austin and Abby broke off with Chad because things are not right and Chad the same day Abby broke off with him run to Melanie and kiss her and Chad ans Melanie end because Melanie dump him making Abby his second choice
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Lazedays,I just wanted to get clarlification ,if you don't have a problem providing it.Is it true that "you have no horse in this race"? I may have misinterpreted your post but it seemed to be definitely pro EJ/Sami.


If anything, I'm a fist-pumping, pompom cheering Ericole/Nicole/Eric/AriZ/GregV fangirl at heart. Those are my big ol' horses. I used to be a huge Bricole fan until all the Madison mess and a score of other things swayed my opinion, and I was a Lumi fanatic, too. Not that that's relevant anyways. Just stating my opinion and calling this Ejami/Ejabby twist like I see it. Examining and stating history, past facts, and current facts that have played for years. No matter what flames are being fanned, there's no disputing the fact that EJ has done everything under the sun and moon to win the girl which is Sami. And for this Nicole fangirl who did support the Ejole pairing at one point, it was a truth to finally accept (and I'm just speaking for myself not all Nicole supporters).
But, I have said what I do want out of this story: a badass Sami raising some serious hell. That's my horse in the race. Can't wait till she brings the snap, crackle, and pop to the situation. If anything, Sami is observant and for her not to notice these slight changes in EJ is contrived.
I guess, in a nutshell, you did misinterpret my post.
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Lazedays,I just wanted to get clarlification ,if you don't have a problem providing it.Is it true that "you have no horse in this race"? I may have misinterpreted your post but it seemed to be definitely pro EJ/Sami.


If anything, I'm a fist-pumping, pompom cheering Ericole/Nicole/Eric/AriZ/GregV fangirl at heart. Those are my big ol' horses. I used to be a huge Bricole fan until all the Madison mess and a score of other things swayed my opinion, and I was a Lumi fanatic, too. Not that that's relevant anyways. Just stating my opinion and calling this Ejami/Ejabby twist like I see it. Examining and stating history, past facts, and current facts that have played for years. No matter what flames are being fanned, there's no disputing the fact that EJ has done everything under the sun and moon to win the girl which is Sami. And for this Nicole fangirl who did support the Ejole pairing at one point, it was a truth to finally accept (and I'm just speaking for myself not all Nicole supporters).
But, I have said what I do want out of this story: a badass Sami raising some serious hell. That's my horse in the race. Can't wait till she brings the snap, crackle, and pop to the situation. If anything, Sami is observant and for her not to notice these slight changes in EJ is contrived.
I guess, in a nutshell, you did misinterpret my post.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Feb 15 2014, 11:21 AM
Abby needs to keep on the big girl panties. She knew what she was getting into. What does she expect? There's clearly nothing mixed about the situation. EJ is engaged, living, and committed to Sami. And what does she really know about EJ really? She doesn't know him at all. A couple of chance meetings and him reading a few quotes doesn't equate "knowing" someone. She's just been screwing his eyeballs out and that's pretty much it. Did she really think that EJ/Sami wouldn't sleep together again? Perhaps she really is truly naive. And what happened to this grand love she supposedly had for Chad? Sure didn't take her long to get over that. Kinda like Jennifer got over Jack in a New York minute. I wish Chad would come back and rake her hypocritical ass over the coals. Wasn't she the one ranting about his/Cameron's so-called "deception" and dishonesty? :glare: The minute he takes off, she's screwing his brother.
As for EJ, he's like any man---when its offered for free, he takes it. Not gonna find too many that will pass up the opportunity to get the itch scratched. And it happens everyday. People getting laid and not having an emotional investment.
Booty Call 101.
I hated Abby with Chad because he dumped her for Melanie and only wanted her when she moved on with Chad.I watched practically every episode and don't fast forward.
Chad was Abby's first lover and they dated until she found out he lied to Cameron but I don't recall Chad or Abby ever saying "I love you.".Perhaps I missed it.Is there a clip out of one of them saying this to the other.I would be interested in seeing it if someone has seen it.I don't believe there are that many women who remain in a long term relationship with their first lover.I think most grow apart and move on.Abby moved on from Chad and Cameron rather quickly because I don't think she loved either one of them,I believe she no longer wanted to be a virgin and Chad or Cameron were her choices at the time she made that decision.I think Abby is right in that most women would be attracted to EJ sexually.She saw the opportunity and took it.If EJ had not contacted Abby again after she left the cabin the second time and took the ferry back on her own,their affair would have ended that day even though he told her that he did not want to look at her because of the feelings he gets when he looks at her and he does not want to see the hurt he caused her.When he went to the church before the christening,EJ approached Abby and told her he slept with her because he could not stop himself.He did go tallk to Abby again while at the church because Sami and Kate asked him to do so but it was Abby who walked out of the room when he got to close to her.It was EJ who followed her to the storage room then grabbed her,kissed her,pushed her against the shelves then onto the table where he continued to kiss her and unzip his pants.It was EJ who followed her to the office when she walked away from the nurse's station without saying a word to him as he arrived for the board meeeting.It was EJ who followed her again after he argument with Adrienne.It was EJ who told her to show up at his home where he lived with his children,the mother of his children,who happens to be his fiancee when Abby said she would make an excuse to avoid showing up there.It was EJ who stopped her when she wanted to clean up the kitchen and leave.He did not have to tell her anything about his relationship with Sami he could have just let her leave and that be the end of it instead of rubbing flour from her cheek and putting his arm around her when she got upset about JJ.
I don't mind if Abby does something to put EJ in the postion of having to choos her or Sami.I just want her to move on without clinging if he clearly lets her know by his words and actions he is really choosing Sami over her.I want her to move on with Ben or whoever if EJ does this and I am interested to see what happends between Abby and the new guy.If she puts her experience with EJ behind her and moves on with new guy I am interested in seeing how that plays out.I am also interested to see how the pictures of almost cabinsex round 2 come into play in the EJ/Sami,Abby/new guy,and EJ/Abby relationships.EJ may be changing his tune with Sami but he is still lying to her if he does not tell her about the affair even if he chooses not to name the woman and as almost everyone has predicted,it is likely to blow up in his face.Cannot wait to see Nick punish EJ.I also want to know how many people learn of the EJ/Abby affair and how they EJ and Abby behave once it becomes known and how everyone in Salem reacts to it.Its still must see TV even if there is no more EJ/Abby sex/almost sex.I recall the scene where EJ followed Abby into the office before the shower sex where she told him if it was over,she can handle it.I hope the writers back up her statement.I don't want her stalking EJ or Sami.If he clearly shows its over she needs to move on sooner rather than later.
I am going to reserve judgement on the EJ/Sami sex scene but I don't have high hopes since even their kisses make me cringe if they are more than a mere touching of the lips.I have been repulsed by every sex scene they have had since griefsex and they got back together in last year.I couldn't bring myself to watch the ones I missed unintentionally and intentionally with the Colleen/Santeen nausea inducing crap.By the by did Colleen and Santeen have a squish name? If so,what was it?
Stefano's father's name was Santo, not Santeen. Santeen is the squish name.
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