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Monday, February 17th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 17 2014, 01:24 AM (22,543 Views)
lysie


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Feb 17 2014, 04:53 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:29 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 03:48 PM

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Yes, it's laughable girl is clearly unwise, it doesn't matter that she is young she should know that EJ always wanted Sami and chased her for several years, moreover, he is engaged to Sami. So what does she think? Just because EJ and she had sex so is it something more like feelings, etc. Sorry but I'm so over Abby. The girl is a bore, naive and clearly not very smart And who the hell thought this character would have screen-time 24/7, it says quite a lot about the powers that they do not know what is an interesting character and so on, in my opinion.
She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.

Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
You know...I know it's annoying when people bring up other characters. But seriously. What Abby is doing is right up both Sami and EJ's alleys. Only they did this kind of stuff when they were much older. I mean...maybe what's wrong with her is that she's seen how these two work and has decided to try it for herself. It worked for both of them (heck. It even worked for Daniel) why shouldn't it work for her? I honestly hate defending Abby because I feel like she's a nothing character and I think this story is beyond stupid, but she's no more psychotic, delusional, immature, stupid, slutty, boring, dumb, naive, or hypocritical than everyone else in her story.
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Feb 17 2014, 04:56 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:50 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.
She also knows that EJ wanted, loved, chased, married and remarried Nicole, and he is no longer with her.

Why wouldn't she believe she has a chance with EJ since she's also seen first hand how fickle Sami is.
Nicole was never the love of Ej's life and everyone knows that including Nicole. She even said that recently to Daniel. Ej did love Nicole, but only because he did not have a chance with Sami.
Since we know nothing about EJ's life it's hard to say anyone is the love of it. We have never even seen EJ in love.
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Yes, it's laughable girl is clearly unwise, it doesn't matter that she is young she should know that EJ always wanted Sami and chased her for several years, moreover, he is engaged to Sami. So what does she think? Just because EJ and she had sex so is it something more like feelings, etc. Sorry but I'm so over Abby. The girl is a bore, naive and clearly not very smart And who the hell thought this character would have screen-time 24/7, it says quite a lot about the powers that they do not know what is an interesting character and so on, in my opinion.
She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.

Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
Except in those cases where the attached man ends up leaving his family for the other woman. Not saying it will happen with EJ/Abby/Sami, but it happens.
Edited by cryin4days, Feb 17 2014, 05:09 PM.
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Feb 17 2014, 05:00 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:53 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:29 PM

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She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.

Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
You know...I know it's annoying when people bring up other characters. But seriously. What Abby is doing is right up both Sami and EJ's alleys. Only they did this kind of stuff when they were much older. I mean...maybe what's wrong with her is that she's seen how these two work and has decided to try it for herself. It worked for both of them (heck. It even worked for Daniel) why shouldn't it work for her? I honestly hate defending Abby because I feel like she's a nothing character and I think this story is beyond stupid, but she's no more psychotic, delusional, immature, stupid, slutty, boring, dumb, naive, or hypocritical than everyone else in her story.
I wish Abby had been given real stories, like following in her parents footsteps and becoming a reporter instead of wasting her on Daniel propping. We don't even know what her dreams are or what her job is beyond "helping out" at the hospital.
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Feb 17 2014, 04:48 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 03:53 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 03:11 PM
Dr. D is just one step away from being a woman beater.
Well for once I wish he was one and would wring Theresa's scrawny little neck. WTF, why would anyone have to blackmail a man to have sex with her. She is beyond pathetic and I don't care what her reason behind it is, if there is even one. She deserves to have her ass nailed to the wall once and for all.
Loved how Gabi set Sami straight about how there is no difference between what Nick or EJ have done in the past. She's absolutely right. Liked how Abby alluded to his past also and what Sami is willing to forgive him for.
I believe Abbyfail's comment about Sami was a veiled threat. She is trying to blackmail Ej with the fact that he cheated. I see no difference between Abby and theresa. They are both desperate sex obsessed pathetic women chasing after men who do not want them.

I figured that Gabi's comments about ejami was to remind the viewers that Ejami have forgiven each other much worst in the past and makes us wonder if she will this time.

I personally think she will. Sami is in love with Ej. she tends to forgive the people she loves. She forgave Lucas, she forgave Rafe for falling in love with Carrie. So I think she will forgive Ej too.

Are we seriously going to compare her forgiveness of EJ to her forgiveness of Lucas?! Something that took a freaking decade to happen?! I can't!

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Feb 17 2014, 05:04 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:53 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:29 PM

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She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.

Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
Except in those cases where the attached man ends up leaving his family for the other woman.
Yeah, but those guys usually end up cheating again eventually. If you get a man by "stealing" him from someone else, chances are, that same will be done to you some day.
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:29 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 03:48 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 03:11 PM
Awe Abigail was having a good day until she say Ej holding hands with Sami. Poor thing :(
OMG! That girl is so funny in a sad pathetic way. WTF is wrong with her? She is all pissy because she caught ej i cheating on her with his fiance. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, it's laughable girl is clearly unwise, it doesn't matter that she is young she should know that EJ always wanted Sami and chased her for several years, moreover, he is engaged to Sami. So what does she think? Just because EJ and she had sex so is it something more like feelings, etc. Sorry but I'm so over Abby. The girl is a bore, naive and clearly not very smart And who the hell thought this character would have screen-time 24/7, it says quite a lot about the powers that they do not know what is an interesting character and so on, in my opinion.
She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.
Yeah, I can buy that many "side" chicks or guys think that they're actually going to get the person they're cheating with to fall for them and leave their husband/wife, especially if they're young and inexperienced. It's not reality since the vast majority of affairs end with the person staying with their husband/wife, but her misconception doesn't surprise me. I look at EJ's actions and I think he's been totally clear with her, but I'm not 22 and only had one other sexual partner.
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Feb 17 2014, 05:00 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:53 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:29 PM

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She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.

Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
You know...I know it's annoying when people bring up other characters. But seriously. What Abby is doing is right up both Sami and EJ's alleys. Only they did this kind of stuff when they were much older. I mean...maybe what's wrong with her is that she's seen how these two work and has decided to try it for herself. It worked for both of them (heck. It even worked for Daniel) why shouldn't it work for her? I honestly hate defending Abby because I feel like she's a nothing character and I think this story is beyond stupid, but she's no more psychotic, delusional, immature, stupid, slutty, boring, dumb, naive, or hypocritical than everyone else in her story.
LOL. With defenders like you, who needs detractors??
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Feb 17 2014, 05:11 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:29 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 03:48 PM

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Yes, it's laughable girl is clearly unwise, it doesn't matter that she is young she should know that EJ always wanted Sami and chased her for several years, moreover, he is engaged to Sami. So what does she think? Just because EJ and she had sex so is it something more like feelings, etc. Sorry but I'm so over Abby. The girl is a bore, naive and clearly not very smart And who the hell thought this character would have screen-time 24/7, it says quite a lot about the powers that they do not know what is an interesting character and so on, in my opinion.
She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.
Yeah, I can buy that many "side" chicks or guys think that they're actually going to get the person they're cheating with to fall for them and leave their husband/wife, especially if they're young and inexperienced. It's not reality since the vast majority of affairs end with the person staying with their husband/wife, but her misconception doesn't surprise me. I look at EJ's actions and I think he's been totally clear with her, but I'm not 22 and only had one other sexual partner.
I don't understand why we have to talk about Abby or women as "side chicks." Isn't that douchebag terminology? Does the show also expect db logic? Because I'm definitely better than that. And I believe much of the audience is as well.

I don't think like a jackass so I don't respect jackass logic. And I think EJ is a jackass.

Honestly I don't care that Abby is not leaving EJ alone. EJ made his bed. He needs to lie in it. He needs to pay for not only cheating but playing and not staying. Don't play where you are not going to stay.
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:peek: I actually enjoyed Daniel today when Teresa is with him!! She makes him tolerable, and I find her hilarious!!!
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Feb 17 2014, 05:14 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 05:00 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:53 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM

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Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
You know...I know it's annoying when people bring up other characters. But seriously. What Abby is doing is right up both Sami and EJ's alleys. Only they did this kind of stuff when they were much older. I mean...maybe what's wrong with her is that she's seen how these two work and has decided to try it for herself. It worked for both of them (heck. It even worked for Daniel) why shouldn't it work for her? I honestly hate defending Abby because I feel like she's a nothing character and I think this story is beyond stupid, but she's no more psychotic, delusional, immature, stupid, slutty, boring, dumb, naive, or hypocritical than everyone else in her story.
LOL. With defenders like you, who needs detractors??
I know. I'm amazing at it.
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Feb 17 2014, 05:15 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 05:11 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:29 PM

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She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.
Yeah, I can buy that many "side" chicks or guys think that they're actually going to get the person they're cheating with to fall for them and leave their husband/wife, especially if they're young and inexperienced. It's not reality since the vast majority of affairs end with the person staying with their husband/wife, but her misconception doesn't surprise me. I look at EJ's actions and I think he's been totally clear with her, but I'm not 22 and only had one other sexual partner.
I don't understand why we have to talk about Abby or women as "side chicks." Isn't that douchebag terminology? Does the show also expect db logic? Because I'm definitely better than that. And I believe much of the audience is as well.

Honestly I don't care that Abby is not leaving EJ alone. EJ made his bed. He needs to lie in it. He needs to pay for not only cheating but playing and not staying.
Um what? My post specifically referred to side chicks and side guys. I'm not sure what you want to call the collective group, other than "people who have affairs with people that are in committed relationships." That seems like a lot to type and, to me, side chick or side guy is a fairly benign term and gender neutral to boot.
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Feb 17 2014, 04:41 PM
What does everyone see in Haiden?!

How is he her type?!

Is everyone just accepting them because they're so anxious to shove Hope with someone?

That's how I see it!

He's so not her type. She's wonderful alone! Doesn't need a man. Should/could just as beautifully remain man-less. She doesn't need a man.

They don't "fit". It's coerced.
What I see in them is two people who got off on the wrong foot and are starting to see that they're not quite the people their first impressions painted them as.
How is he not her type? We can't actually define Hope's "type" since she's only ever been with Bo.
People are accepting them because their scenes are full of snark and subtext. No one's trying to shove Hope with anyone. If anything, people want them to take their time getting together (especially since Bo isn't even completely dealt with).
No one says that Hope isn't wonderful alone, but the fact is that this is a soap, and why not finally capitalize on the fact that there's an opportunity to pair Hope with someone who isn't Bo. And not only is he not Bo, he's nothing like Bo. (well, that's not 100% true. I'm sure Aiden & Bo have some similar characteristics, like being a very protective parent.)
IMO, it would feel coerced if they were trying to immediately pair the two. Have Jen, Kayla, etc. say that Hope should try to get along with Aiden and even ask him out on a date. No one's trying to ship them as a pair. No one's forcing them to get along. No one's telling them to give the other another chance.
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Feb 17 2014, 04:46 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:41 PM
What does everyone see in Haiden?!

How is he her type?!

Is everyone just accepting them because they're so anxious to shove Hope with someone?

That's how I see it!

He's so not her type. She's wonderful alone! Doesn't need a man. Should/could just as beautifully remain man-less. She doesn't need a man.

They don't "fit". It's coerced.
I admit, I am totally on board simply because it's giving KA a story. BUT, I do like Aiden. I think the actor (Sorry I forget his name) has done a good job showing nuanced expressions through his guarded and often brisk behavior with her. Also, I am a sucker for a love/hate relationship and in this case it started off in a less pushy way because it's their kids that have given them false impressions of each other.

The only thing is I dont know what to do about Bo. Ugh, I'm still so mad at the show for not giving PR a real ending. Killing him off and letting KA mourn along with rewarding the fans with clips of him. You also get MBE with that and that would have been GOLD.
They didn't give Bo a proper ending when Peter left because Ken honestly believed that Peter would return a few months down the line. (and we know that there were talks between the two of them that ended in no agreements being reached)
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Feb 17 2014, 05:21 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 05:15 PM
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Feb 17 2014, 04:32 PM

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Yeah, I can buy that many "side" chicks or guys think that they're actually going to get the person they're cheating with to fall for them and leave their husband/wife, especially if they're young and inexperienced. It's not reality since the vast majority of affairs end with the person staying with their husband/wife, but her misconception doesn't surprise me. I look at EJ's actions and I think he's been totally clear with her, but I'm not 22 and only had one other sexual partner.
I don't understand why we have to talk about Abby or women as "side chicks." Isn't that douchebag terminology? Does the show also expect db logic? Because I'm definitely better than that. And I believe much of the audience is as well.

Honestly I don't care that Abby is not leaving EJ alone. EJ made his bed. He needs to lie in it. He needs to pay for not only cheating but playing and not staying.
Um what? My post specifically referred to side chicks and side guys. I'm not sure what you want to call the collective group, other than "people who have affairs with people that are in committed relationships." That seems like a lot to type and, to me, side chick or side guy is a fairly benign term and gender neutral to boot.
I don't call them anything. Because the focus should be on the cheater. EJ is the person creating the bad situation, not Abby. He could end the situation tomorrow by coming clean. But by playing with both women he's the problem.

With Abby he want fun then run. With Sami he wants to be services or he'll get it somewhere else. He is disgusting.
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http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/

Director: Grant A. Johnson
Scriptwriter: David Cherrill


Segment 1: Sami joins Gabi and Ari in the square. Sami gushes over her granddaughter. Gabi loves her necklace. Sami says EJ gave it to her for Valentine's Day. Gabi tells Sami she's just killing time giving Will and Sonny some alone time. Sami - That's nice of you. Gabi - It's not like I have a romance. Sami warns her not to think of romance and Nick at the same time. Gabi gets upset. You guys never give up. Nick's a liar. Nick's evil. Sami - He is all of those things. Gabi - How come it's okay if you're with EJ and if I give Nick the benefit of the doubt it's all wrong? Think about it, what's the difference?

EJ is walking past the pub when Nick runs up to him. EJ, do you have a second. I would love to talk to you. EJ - I can't imagine a single word from you that I would want to hear. Nick - Okay, how about two words. Attempted murder.

Hope and Aiden are still at the courthouse. Hope didn't know he was a lawyer. Aiden - I am. Hope - And Justin had you stand in him at my cousin's sentencing hearing. Aiden - He did. The deal was set. I just had to make sure nothing changed. I had no idea you were related. I must say your family is very nice. Hope - And I'm the exception; is that what you were going to say?

Jen, JJ and Abby are in the courtroom. JJ tells his mom if she hugs him any harder he's going to explode. Jen is so happy. Abby - You got probation and Community Service, that is a huge win for all of us. JJ agrees. Jen gets a text. That's Hope. I have to go tell her the good news. I'll be right back. Abby asks JJ if he's okay. You just had a major win and you're acting like you lost. JJ - I'm good. I just figured I'd text Daniel. Abby - Why?

Dan - Obviously you're upset and we need to clear something up! What is that? Theresa - I started to remember some things from the night I OD'd. I've been over and over and over it and you know what I figured out; you've been lying to everyone, especially me and that's got to stop right now.

Jen - That was terrific Mr. Jennings ... Aiden. It was wonderful. I'm so glad you got to meet him. Hope - Actually we already know each other. Ciara goes to school with his son Chase. Jen - That is so wonderful. Listen, JJ doesn't know this, but we're going to have a celebration for him at the house and I think it would be so wonderful if you and your son would join us. Hope shakes her head no. Aiden says Chase has basketball practice. Hope - That's too bad. Jen - That's okay, you can join us. That would give JJ, all of us, a chance to get to know you better and God knows we have so much to thank you for. Isn't that right Hope? Hope - Uh ... um ... yes, it would be nice if you would join us. Aiden smiles - Well maybe for just a bit then.

JJ - I figure Daniel ought to hear what happened. Mom pretends she doesn't care but she would want Daniel to know, right? Abby - Let me text him. He'll probably ignore a text coming from you anyway, and yeah, he should know.

Dan - Alright, exactly what do you remember about that night. Theresa - It's just so hard you know. JJ was there and we were getting high together. There's no point denying it. He's the one who called you to come over. That's why you showed up suddenly and took me to the hospital. What I don't understand, where it gets weird, you didn't tell me about any of that or anyone at the hospital. Instead of saying JJ was there you let everyone believe that you and I were hooking up. Why is that Daniel?

Jen is back in the courtroom. Abby promises JJ she will take care of that thing. She leaves. Jen hugs him again. I don't think you realise what a special day this was for me. I stood there and watched my son say how much he loved his family and how grateful he was that we'd stuck by him and that what has been hanging over our head for months is finally over.

Sami - You can't seriously be comparing your situation with Nick and my relationship with EJ. Gabi - Why not? Sami - Well first of all EJ and I have been married, we have children together and we are engaged. Gabi - I'm talking about ... sound quality went but I believe Gabi is listing off the horrible things Sami and EJ have done to each other. And those are things I just heard. Imagine if I went around and asked. Sami - You're being super bitchy with me and I'm not sure why and it's starting to make me mad but if we put that aside it still doesn't explain ... Gabi - Nick did some awful things because he loved me and he couldn't think straight but it still doesn't compare to what EJ and you did to each other.

EJ - I'm sorry. What is that scar you have there? Nick - Oh. EJ - Is that from a lobotomy 'cause you don't seem to be thinking very clearly Mr. Fallon. Nick laughs. That's really funny. Did you come up with that? But I know okay. I saw the look on your face when I walked in on Arianna's christening and it kind of looked like you had seen a ghost. EJ - Your interpretation's a little skewed. See I saw right though your rather cheap theatrical entrance. Nick - Well if you saw through me then you know that I was sincere when I had said I had moved on with my life and that I'd changed. EJ - Why don't we just cut to the chase, shall we? What exactly is it that you want? Nick - Okay, truth time.


Segment 2: Nick - First things first, (he holds his jacket open) I'm not wearing a wire so if you don't believe me you can just not say anything, you can just listen. EJ - Make it short. Nick - The reason that I decided to admit that I knew what had happened that night was ... well Sami and Kate, they wouldn't let it go, you know what I mean. And I thought the best way to deal with the fallout was basically to go to all the other people, the accomplices who knew that Sami and Kate had tried to murder me and basically take them aside separately and talk just so everything's out on the table and then you'll all know where I stand. EJ - I don't really care where you stand. Nick - Really? EJ - As long as it's out of my sight. Nick - I think you care plenty because what I know counts and what happened to me counts. EJ - Not to me. Nick - Really? Is that why you sent those men to scour the woods and clean up any traces of my blood and DNA because it kind of makes it seem like you were worried about it. Do you know what I'm talking about? The area that Sami and Kate dragged me through before they threw me in the river.

Sami - Okay yes, EJ and I have a long complicated history that was not all hearts and flowers but that is completely different from your situation with Nick. Gabi - How? Sami - For one thing you have a baby with my son Will not Nick. Gabi - Nick is not trying to interfere with Will's custody. Sami - I can not believe that you're going after EJ and me to defend the man that just weeks ago was terrifying you. Gabi - You've never been terrified of EJ?

Dan - My God. You knew all along. You remembered everything from the minute you woke up. Theresa - Duh, like I'm some halfwit who can't remember who I was getting high with! Dan - And all your concern, all your little visits about being worried ... Theresa - I like to play games. It's fun to see how many times you can fool somebody. Dan - Guess what, I don't like being played. Theresa - Stop the attitude Doc, you've been lying to people for months just like I have. Dan - Alright, secret's out. JJ called when you OD'd. I shot over there to save your ass. Are we finished? Theresa - Why don't you have a seat; we're just getting started.

JJ and Jen arrive home all smiles. Abe, Kayla and Hope are in the living room waiting for them. Hope and Kayla hug JJ - they're so happy for him. Abe shakes his hand. Abby baked his favourite cake because from now on he's going to be a perfect little angel, right?

Dan gets a text. It's my mother, JJ got probation. Theresa - Great. I actually stopped by the courthouse earlier and wished him luck. I like when good things happen to people. I don't like seeing someone punished, not JJ, especially not the man who saved my life. Dan - Based on your disposition right now I'm not exactly sure I believe that. Theresa - Come on, I like you, I really do and you like me too; probably a lot better than you're willing to admit. Dan - I think you're misreading the situation here. Theresa - I'm not. You're so my type. We're going to have some fun. Dan - Really! What makes you think ... Theresa - JJ got his probation so we can start over. I forget about your lies, you forget about mine. We forget that JJ was even there that night. Just be happy together. Dan - So what exactly are you proposing Theresa. Theresa - I think it's time we took our relationship to the next level.


Segment 3: Sami - Where is this coming from? For the record, I am not terrified of EJ or any man. Gabi - I mean the way I heard it, he put you through hell for a long time. And don't get me wrong, I like EJ. I think he's a great guy. Obviously he's changed but is that because you gave him a chance? Sami - Is that what you're thinking? You're thinking about giving Nick a chance because you think he's changed! Gabi - I didn't say that. All I'm saying is that he's trying. Sami - No, that's what he's saying. He's bragging to anyone who will listen that he has completed the transformation; that he's a saint, all love and kindness. Gabi - You know you were terrified of EJ, you hated EJ and here you are again engaged to be married to him. Sami, people change, you know that. Sami gets a call. When she turns around Gabi is gone.

Nick - Look I know you were just trying to protect the woman you love which I admire; I respect that a great deal but what I am asking is to be left alone to rebuild my life. EJ - Okay, I'll tell you what. I'm glad that you understand that I will do whatever it takes to protect Samantha. If there is any kind of threat, I'll end it. Nick - Right! As long as I get to live my life. EJ - I didn't really care about your life before Mr. Fallon and I don't really care about your life right now but if you promise me that you'll stay away from me and Samantha and my family I can't think of any reason why our paths need to cross again. EJ leaves.

Kayla has a nice chat with JJ as she hands him a piece of cake. Jen is telling JJ that one day when he has kids he'll understand that a parent wants to keep an eye on them and make sure that they don't ... she opens the door to find Rory and Bev standing there.

Dan - We don't have a relationship. I'm not attracted to you for a number of reasons. One of them being your little visit here today. You're deluding yourself ... Theresa - I thought I told you to drop the condescending attitude. So do it and man up. This is something that's going to happen. Dan - The hell it is. Theresa - Maybe you want to think about that a little more. Today is your D-Day. You make the wrong decision, it could cost you your license. Now I'm no lawyer but my guess is that all the lies you and JJ told about the night of my OD could wind up causing his probation to be revoked. And then it's off to prison and Jenny has one more thing to blame you for while she's crying her eyes out. Is that what you want?


Segment 4: Dan - So that's your plan? You come over here, we hook up for sex. Theresa - You're definitely hot, your body and all that money you make. What more could a girl want? I'm not talking about a one time thing. We're going to date. Lots and lots of dates. I'm seeing a nice long affair. Dan - Really, you see that? You're insane. Theresa - First you have to kick Nicole out of here and then we'll get started. Maybe a few months, maybe longer, who knows. You're an uptight guy but trust me, I'll teach you things that will make your toes curl. Dan - So apparently, what, you know me? Theresa - Yes, I'd say you're an easy read. Dan - Well then you should know that I'd never do anything like that because it would hurt Jennifer too much. Theresa - OMG! Are you still in love with that mousy little bitch! Dan - Wow. Oops. This isn't about me or any kind of relationship. This is about hurting Jennifer; punishing Jennifer. And for what? Is it because she fired you or because she saved you from going to prison by giving you a second chance. Which one is it? Think about that and get the hell out of here. He opens the door. Theresa - You think you're in control. You think I'm just making empty threats because I've got hard evidence that I can show you or anyone else. Your career and JJ's freedom are on the line Daniel. Dan - Any chance I can see this hard evidence you've got. Theresa pulls out her phone and shows him the video.

Jen tells JJ they need to have a talk about his friends. Hope sees Aiden - You're here. Aiden - I am. Hope - There's cake and coffee. Aiden - And I'm glad to see you're not holding either. Hope picks up a pitcher of juice. You're never going to let me live that down, are you? Aiden - Probably not. Ciara goes up to Hope - Mommy, can I have a ... she stops when she sees Aiden. Aiden excuses himself to go and say hello to Abe. Ciara - What's he doing here? JJ reminds Jen that she said it was okay for them to come by. Jen - I know I did. JJ - Okay, when everyone at school stopped talking to me, they stuck by me. They're my friends. Jen - I realise that. JJ - Okay, so can you stop looking at them like they're toxic; like they're going to contaminate the house. Jen - I'm sorry. JJ - Is it still okay if I go hang out with them later? Jen - It's fine. Just don't be out too long. JJ - Okay, no problem. What I said today, I meant it. I love you. I would never have made it through this without you. Jen - I love you honey. Just go but make sure you say thank you and good bye to everyone. JJ - Excuse me everyone. I want to thank you for doing this; for sticking by me. We're going to hang out at the square but you all are great. Thank you. I'll see you guys later.

EJ meets up with Sami in the square. I got your message. What happened? Sami - Gabi is losing her mind. EJ - I just left Nick who's certifiable. Sami - Don't talk about them in the same breath. EJ - What happened? Sami - Gabi is thinking about giving Nick another chance the way that I did with you.

Gabi comes into the pub with the stroller and sees Nick. Nick says if she came to pay Caroline a visit, she missed her. She went to her Alzheimer's group. I've hardly had a chance to see her but I thought as long as I was here I'd have a cup of her chowder. Do you want some? Do you remember when we used to take it upstairs and share a bowl of it? Gabi - Yeah. Nick - You probably just came for takeout so I'll see you. Gabi sits down at his table. Actually I have time and I'm hungry.


Segment 5: The waitress that brings Gabi a bowl of chowder comments that it's good to see the two of them. It's been a while. I always thought you two made the best newlyweds. After she leaves Nick says - I guess someone's a little behind the curve. Gabi - It's kind of weird though; us two sitting here like nothing ever happened. Nick - As far as I'm concerned nothing did happen except that I was a total jerk. Those days are over, I've changed. Gabi - But you blackmailed Kate into giving you a job and that other man too. Nick - Percy, yeah, he helped me so much I just felt I should make sure that he had a job too and with Kate, I'm going to make her millions when my formula's go into production and my salary is peanuts compared to what she's going to make. Gabi - I mean but do you want to do that for Kate even after everything that happened. Nick - What Kate and Sami did was wrong but I don't blame them for what happened. Actually I understand exactly how they feel.

EJ - Gabriella thinks I'm the equivalent of Nick Fallon. Sami - She's crazy, that's what I'm trying to tell you. She was making all these comparisons to our past and the things that we used to do to hurt each other and that we still managed to get back together. EJ - You can't compare the two of us. The man is a deranged psychopath. The situations are completely different. You and I survived because of our love. I've done things that hurt you in the past but I would never do anything to hurt you now. Abigail arrives at the square and sees EJ and Sami with their hands clasped in each others.

Hope - Are you sure you don't want some cake? Ciara - No, I want to go home. Hope - Honey, look, Mr. Jennings is a lawyer and he was helping JJ out in court today. Ciara - I don't care. He's mean. Hope - I know you think that but sometimes what you think about a person at first turns out to be wrong. Ciara - Really? Last night you said Chase's father is just plain sad, remember? Aiden hears this.

Theresa stops the video. I've got copies of that in case you're wondering. So here's the deal. We have lots of hot, sweaty sex, fun dates, little quickies at the hospital making very sure that Jenny sees us together a lot or you can kiss your career goodbye and wave to JJ when they're loading him on the bus to Statesville. Dan grabs her arms and removes them from his shoulders - You think you've got this all figured out. Theresa - I know I do. You know maybe you'd put your career on the line to fight me on this but there's no way you'd send JJ to prison. Why you protect him I'll never know; the guy is the biggest jerk I ever met. Gosh, I wish I had videos of him ragging on you all the time; bragging about how you were lower than pond scum but hey, he's Jenny's little boy so you'd do anything to protect him.

JJ, Bev and Rory are at the club. JJ - Thank you guys for helping me put Theresa back in her cage. If you guys hadn't helped me with that fake embezzlement thing she could have put me in prison any day of the week. Rory holds up his cup - Here's to the vampire who lost her fangs. Bev - JJ, what's wrong?

Theresa - Let's do this right, forget the threats, all the anger, just let it happen. We're too people, young, good bodies, we'd have so much fun. She starts running her hands up his arms - JJ's secret ... Dan grabs her arms off of him again. She can see he's furious. He throws a cup across the room.


Segment 6: Nick - What I did to Will was terrible, it was disgusting. When I look back on that ... my point is I don't blame Kate and Sami for hating my guts. Gabi - So you take responsibility. Nick - I do for everything but they need to take responsibility for what they did too. Just because I was terrible to Will doesn't really give them the right to kill me. I mean you saw that I was still alive and they were going to shove me in that river ... Gabi - I said we had to do something, that it wasn't right. Nick - But they talked you out of it, right? They wouldn't stop until you gave in and that was wrong.

EJ - Gabi may want to think that she can be like you but she can't and please don't let her make you start doubting me again. Sami - I won't. I know you love me. I know you wouldn't hurt me again. It's a lot to think about. I mean we have done a lot of awful things ... EJ - In the past, Samantha. Sami - I know. I just have to deal with everything that's happened with Eric and now with Nick ... EJ - You and I will get through this together. I'm not going to let Nick Fallon hurt you. Sami - I know. EJ - Let's go back to the house. Sami - I do have some things to do at the office first but I'll see you later. EJ - Okay. She leaves. EJ sees Abigail.

Hope catches Aiden as he's about to leave. Mr. Jennings, if I could just have a moment to explain what you heard Ciara say ... Aiden - No need Mrs. Brady. Apparently you feel you can describe me to your daughter as though I'm some sort of head case when you know nothing about me. Hope - And you know nothing about me. Aiden - Let's keep it that way. He leaves.

Kayla asks Jen if she's seen Liam lately. Jen - No, not lately. Kayla - So, nothing happening there, huh? Jen - He's very nice. Kayla - I was telling JJ that he would always have your forgiveness because you love him so much. That could apply to other people you love. I mean sometimes ... Jen - Daniel and I are finished. He spent the night with Theresa Donovan and never even explained to me why that happened; he never even tried probably because he doesn't have an excuse. That's it. There is no future there.

Theresa - Maybe having this thing with me is a little too much to handle right now. Maybe seeing Jen Jen all sad is a little too much for you but it's cool. This can go another way. Dan - Really? How's that? Theresa - I need money, you have money. I think I deserve to be compensated for my pain and suffering. Dan - Really? Just skip the sex, go right for the money. Theresa - Don't get all huffy on me. Dan - So you want me to write you a nice big blackmail cheque? Do you remember how I saved your life. Theresa - Yes and thank you otherwise we wouldn't be standing here deciding how much you're going to pay me. Dan - Try nothing. Theresa - Try visually seeing Jenny's eyes when she sees the guy who was too cheap to bail out her own son. Now I think my silence should buy me something in the high 5 figures. JJ and his mommy are worth that much too you, aren't they?

Bev - What's bothering you? JJ - Theresa came by the courthouse today. Bev - Did she start making threats? JJ - No, she was cool, maybe too cool. Bev - What does that mean? Rory - She can't hurt you anymore Dude. JJ - She wanted to know what I was doing afterwards. You wanted to know where I'd be and how long I'd be tied up for. Oh man.

Theresa - You're a doctor, time is money. Do you write me a cheque or do I send this little video over to the Judge who let JJ walk this morning. Dan gets a text from Abigail, sharing the good news about JJ. Theresa - Which could turn into bad news by sundown. JJ's future is in your hands. What's it going to be? Dan - I guess I have no choice.


Segment 7: Hope and Ciara are in the club now. Ciara - Chase is probably mean because his Dad is so mean. Hope - Honey, Mr. Jennings isn't mean, he's just ... Ciara - Sad? Hope - No, he's just, well you know, sometimes grownups just can't find a way to get along so it's best they stay away from each other. Ciara - So you're not going to have like play dates and stuff? Hope - No! No play dates!

Kayla - I'm just saying never say never. Jen - This is the new me; the woman who forgave Jack over and over is long gone. Whether it's a strength or a weakness, I don't know, but I will not forgive Daniel. Kayla - For sleeping with Theresa? Jen - No, for knowing how much it would hurt me and doing it anyway.

Dan holds up a cheque. We're cool? Theresa - Good enough. Dan - I just need to know that this is the end. I don't want to hear a beep out of you to anyone. Theresa - You've got my word. Dan - Yeah, we all know what that's worth. Theresa - Hey you want the amount on that cheque to go up you keep insulting me. The sooner we do this, the sooner I'm out that door and the sooner JJ is free and clear and so are you. Dan stalls. Theresa snaps - So do it ... today Doctor! There's a knock on the door. Theresa - Forget that, sign it. Dan gets up and answers the door. It's JJ. The two guys stare her down.

Nick - Percy and I have to talk about some things we have to do for Kate. I'll see you soon. Gabi - See you. Nick talks to Ari planting the seed about Gabi and modelling.

Abby - If you have some time ... EJ nods his head for her to follow him. They go through the gates into the park. EJ - So what's wrong? Abby - Just one of those days I guess. It started off great, my brother got probation. EJ - That's wonderful news. Abby - Yeah but I saw you holding Sami's hands and I guess I kind of crashed. EJ - Abigail, I think you understood from the very beginning how I feel about Samantha.

Sami returns to the square. Where did EJ go?

Abby - I know how you feel about her now but did you feel that way about her before Smith Island, the other times we've been together. EJ - Abigail, please. Abby - Look I know that Sami totally forgives you for whatever, right. I've heard some of the crazy stories of the stuff that you guys have done to each other but do you think that she would forgive you this time if she knew about you and me? Would Sami? Sami walks up.
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She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.

Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
You know...I know it's annoying when people bring up other characters. But seriously. What Abby is doing is right up both Sami and EJ's alleys. Only they did this kind of stuff when they were much older. I mean...maybe what's wrong with her is that she's seen how these two work and has decided to try it for herself. It worked for both of them (heck. It even worked for Daniel) why shouldn't it work for her? I honestly hate defending Abby because I feel like she's a nothing character and I think this story is beyond stupid, but she's no more psychotic, delusional, immature, stupid, slutty, boring, dumb, naive, or hypocritical than everyone else in her story.
Sami was actually younger. idk about EJ.
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She also knows that EJ wanted, loved, chased, married and remarried Nicole, and he is no longer with her.

Why wouldn't she believe she has a chance with EJ since she's also seen first hand how fickle Sami is.
Nicole was never the love of Ej's life and everyone knows that including Nicole. She even said that recently to Daniel. Ej did love Nicole, but only because he did not have a chance with Sami.
Since we know nothing about EJ's life it's hard to say anyone is the love of it. We have never even seen EJ in love.

Speak for yourself lol because I have. Ej has been in love with Sami for 7 years plus and he still is.

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She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.

Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
Except in those cases where the attached man ends up leaving his family for the other woman. Not saying it will happen with EJ/Abby/Sami, but it happens.

Those are the exception to the rule. referring to the 80/20 rules, Only stupid ass men would give up 80% for a 20%. They usually realize down the line that they lost a priceless diamond while too busy collecting stones.
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Dr. D is just one step away from being a woman beater.
Well for once I wish he was one and would wring Theresa's scrawny little neck. WTF, why would anyone have to blackmail a man to have sex with her. She is beyond pathetic and I don't care what her reason behind it is, if there is even one. She deserves to have her ass nailed to the wall once and for all.
Loved how Gabi set Sami straight about how there is no difference between what Nick or EJ have done in the past. She's absolutely right. Liked how Abby alluded to his past also and what Sami is willing to forgive him for.
I believe Abbyfail's comment about Sami was a veiled threat. She is trying to blackmail Ej with the fact that he cheated. I see no difference between Abby and theresa. They are both desperate sex obsessed pathetic women chasing after men who do not want them.

I figured that Gabi's comments about ejami was to remind the viewers that Ejami have forgiven each other much worst in the past and makes us wonder if she will this time.

I personally think she will. Sami is in love with Ej. she tends to forgive the people she loves. She forgave Lucas, she forgave Rafe for falling in love with Carrie. So I think she will forgive Ej too.

Are we seriously going to compare her forgiveness of EJ to her forgiveness of Lucas?! Something that took a freaking decade to happen?! I can't!

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She is thinking what most women in an affair with an attached man thinks. He obviously doesn't love the woman he is with.

Which is why women who get involved with attached men are generally stupid. Then they act shocked when the attached men dumped their asses.
You know...I know it's annoying when people bring up other characters. But seriously. What Abby is doing is right up both Sami and EJ's alleys. Only they did this kind of stuff when they were much older. I mean...maybe what's wrong with her is that she's seen how these two work and has decided to try it for herself. It worked for both of them (heck. It even worked for Daniel) why shouldn't it work for her? I honestly hate defending Abby because I feel like she's a nothing character and I think this story is beyond stupid, but she's no more psychotic, delusional, immature, stupid, slutty, boring, dumb, naive, or hypocritical than everyone else in her story.
I know. it has not escaped me that both ej and sami have pulled these stunts before. In Sami's defense, she was younger than Abbigail. Ej is a different story. When Sam and Ej were doing these things, they took a lot of heat too. the viewers hated them with a passion.

Another thing about Sami, she was a messed up child dealing with bulimia, rape, poor self image due to being overweight and parents dying and coming back from the dead, fake daddy vs real daddy and so on. I understood why she was so messed up and destructive. As for Ej, he is a freaking Dimera, enough said. he is expected to be an prick. It is part of his DNA.

On the other hand, I can not comprehend and justify why Abbygail is acting this way when she has not been through half the things Sami has been through. She had a fairytale childhood with two loving parents and her life has been enchanted as far as I can tell. I know her dad died a few times LOL. But this is Salem, it is the norm. Everyone dies and comes back from time to time. :lol:
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Seriously, Abby? Please just STFU and go away.

She got upset seeing EJ holding hands with Sami? If she's tricked herself into thinking there was hope for she and EJ to be together, why did she feel the need to stop EJ and share her sadness with him??????

I do not get this chick. Go paint sad puppy faces in your Hello Kitty journal. Just go way. Please.
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