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Tuesday, February 18th Daily Discussion
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Partnersincrime
Feb 18 2014, 02:31 PM
salem_viewer
Feb 18 2014, 02:25 PM
ABBY should really be able to figure out by now that she is only the sidechick, who has served her purpose.

She's really becoming an annoying pest. She really has no self respect.


I still waiting for Sami to have self respect and dump ej for good for all crap ej done to her.if you compare Abby to Sami Abby as more self respect than Sami but if you compare Abby to hope she does not have self respect.if you compare Abby to Jennifer it pretty much tie
Abby keeps on coming back for more harsher turn downs....it's been called a mistake, he's working it out with Sami... She's his family...he loves her...he never promised her anything...Abby hears all this but comes back for more.

I'll think about Sami when She finds out what this snake is doing. Right now Abby knows that she's a sidechick and accepts that, Abby she's hoping for a different answer next time.
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TreasureCove
Feb 18 2014, 02:00 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 01:54 PM
Matt
Feb 18 2014, 01:50 PM
I really like how Will/Sonny's engagement is the spark to cause Sami's willingness to seemingly reconcile with EJ. That feels organic
Just like Will's conversation with EJ prompted him to say yes to Sonny!
You mean Marlena?
No, she helped him, but he only ran home to set things up for Sonny when EJ told him not to let what was going on between Sami and him to hold him back with Sonny!

At least that is how I saw it. He was already leaning that way after seeing Marlena, but EJ was the final catalyst to make him act. That is all I meant.
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tomsawyer
Feb 18 2014, 02:21 PM
Amanda_gayle
Feb 18 2014, 01:46 PM
Lately EJ has been making these sour frowny faces. Kind of reminds me of Hugh Grant. Maybe Brits just make that face lol.
LOL. It's not just lately. That's why he's Beaker!

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OMG! He is!! :applause: :teehee:
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Matt
Feb 18 2014, 02:15 PM
SO.... Kate's thirst for Rafe is about the same as Abby's for EJ? :tounge:

One thing I think hurts Abby's perspective in this storyline is that we really don't know what it is beyond what she says to EJ, and then those comments come more as a kneejerk reaction to something he's said or some other instigator. If Abby had someone to actually talk to about this, I think it would help to give the audience a far greater perspective on where she's coming from. Either that or a good old fashioned "talking to yourself voice over." lol
I will admit I never thought I'd see the day where comparing Kate and Abby actually makes total and complete sense.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

salem_viewer
Feb 18 2014, 02:43 PM
Partnersincrime
Feb 18 2014, 02:31 PM
salem_viewer
Feb 18 2014, 02:25 PM
ABBY should really be able to figure out by now that she is only the sidechick, who has served her purpose.

She's really becoming an annoying pest. She really has no self respect.


I still waiting for Sami to have self respect and dump ej for good for all crap ej done to her.if you compare Abby to Sami Abby as more self respect than Sami but if you compare Abby to hope she does not have self respect.if you compare Abby to Jennifer it pretty much tie
Abby keeps on coming back for more harsher turn downs....it's been called a mistake, he's working it out with Sami... She's his family...he loves her...he never promised her anything...Abby hears all this but comes back for more.

I'll think about Sami when She finds out what this snake is doing. Right now Abby knows that she's a sidechick and accepts that, Abby she's hoping for a different answer next time.
The show doesn't write women as strong at all...so it's expected.

How many things did Ej do to Sami and she continues to come back? It's just stupid. Why should Abby have more self respect than any other female on this show? I wish the writers will have her move on but obviously she feels she needs an explanation from Ej before she does. It's totally believable behavior if you ask me.
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blueskies
Feb 18 2014, 01:56 PM
how weird would it be to be asked by your mother to go on a date w/her & her 2-time date? Utter weirdness there Jenny.
I think it was just supposed to be Jen's not so subtle way of under scoring for both Liam and JJ that it was not a date -- just going to get some dinner.

And it was also a way to show the improvement in Jen and JJ's relationship, recalling that JJ followed Jiam the first time out to horn in and try to scare Liam off by propping Dannifer. This time, JJ didn't take the bait, even though he walked in on that awkward kiss. As Jeannie T says, JJ is different since he 'grew up and ungrew a pair.'

That said, I can hardly take any more of these less than sizzling Jiam encounters. Nervous babble about their exes is not cute. Debra...Daniel...Whoever. Maybe Debra and Daniel would have some sparks. But what da hell is Days doing to Mark Collier? DOOL has already ruined the first Mike Kasnoff, now they're turning the second into a complete dud. Keep MC around, give Liam some oomph, and try him with MBE. Layla....

And most important...No, you IIC, this bland stuff does not make me long for things to go Fetchward again. Never...just never...ever...ever. :glare:
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LuvingLumi
Feb 18 2014, 02:47 PM
salem_viewer
Feb 18 2014, 02:43 PM
Partnersincrime
Feb 18 2014, 02:31 PM
salem_viewer
Feb 18 2014, 02:25 PM
ABBY should really be able to figure out by now that she is only the sidechick, who has served her purpose.

She's really becoming an annoying pest. She really has no self respect.


I still waiting for Sami to have self respect and dump ej for good for all crap ej done to her.if you compare Abby to Sami Abby as more self respect than Sami but if you compare Abby to hope she does not have self respect.if you compare Abby to Jennifer it pretty much tie
Abby keeps on coming back for more harsher turn downs....it's been called a mistake, he's working it out with Sami... She's his family...he loves her...he never promised her anything...Abby hears all this but comes back for more.

I'll think about Sami when She finds out what this snake is doing. Right now Abby knows that she's a sidechick and accepts that, Abby she's hoping for a different answer next time.
The show doesn't write women as strong at all...so it's expected.

How many things did Ej do to Sami and she continues to come back? It's just stupid. Why should Abby have more self respect than any other female on this show? I wish the writers will have her move on but obviously she feels she needs an explanation from Ej before she does. It's totally believable behavior if you ask me.
I think he's been pretty clear in their last two conversations. She just doesn't like the message. The only explanation I have is that she's 22 and sexually inexperienced, so she doesn't get how sex and love are different.
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Bellarke <3

Matt
Feb 18 2014, 01:13 PM
I actually kinda like Liam & Jennifer, to be honest
Liam deserves better. :)

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I'm really getting tired of all those spoilers that keep talking about 'obsessed' Abby because I'm not seeing any signs of obsession on her part at all. What I'm seeing is an understandably confused young woman who is trying to figure out who EJ really is and what he really feels and where she fits into the picture IF she fits at all. She asked him some very pointed questions and then walked away - where's the 'obsessed' in that?

Personally - who I see as obsessed is EJ. He's obsessing with possessing Sami; always has been. I have never seen love between Sami and EJ and I never will. I truly believe at this point both Sami and EJ are incapable of love.

Loved seeing Theresa brought down! It was long, long overdue!

Kate is coming off as uber-pathetic and that's not who Kate is! Enough already - have her move on. Really enjoyed the easy camaraderie between Jordan and Rafe. It's so nice to see and hear Jordan smiling and laughing and poking good fun at Rafe.

Nice scenes at Will and Sonny's apt. I especially liked Lucas and his reaction to the good news.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

tomsawyer
Feb 18 2014, 02:51 PM
LuvingLumi
Feb 18 2014, 02:47 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:43 PM
Partnersincrime
Feb 18 2014, 02:31 PM

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Abby keeps on coming back for more harsher turn downs....it's been called a mistake, he's working it out with Sami... She's his family...he loves her...he never promised her anything...Abby hears all this but comes back for more.

I'll think about Sami when She finds out what this snake is doing. Right now Abby knows that she's a sidechick and accepts that, Abby she's hoping for a different answer next time.
The show doesn't write women as strong at all...so it's expected.

How many things did Ej do to Sami and she continues to come back? It's just stupid. Why should Abby have more self respect than any other female on this show? I wish the writers will have her move on but obviously she feels she needs an explanation from Ej before she does. It's totally believable behavior if you ask me.
I think he's been pretty clear in their last two conversations. She just doesn't like the message. The only explanation I have is that she's 22 and sexually inexperienced, so she doesn't get how sex and love are different.
In today's convo he might have been more clear but in the last convo he wasn't....you don't tell her to stay behind at your house for no reason. You don't rub her shoulders, say wonderful things to her, make her feel good for no reason. He is saying this and doing things to contradict that and as we know by spoilers he almost gives in at the end of the week.

and I will never believe that a person that is 22 (and btw she's more like 26) wouldn't get the difference between one or the other, if the guy didn't give her messages that make her think that maybe he doesn't mean what he's saying. HIs actions contradict his words....frankly even if I was young and in the situation that Abby is in, I would immediately question the fact that he continues to SAY he loves his fiancee while he boinks me...sorry that shit don't fly....if he loved the woman enough he wouldn't even give me the time of day.
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Why do I have a feeling they plan on reuniting Kate and Rafe? :(
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badaddiction
Feb 18 2014, 02:18 PM
Amanda_gayle
Feb 18 2014, 02:13 PM
badaddiction
Feb 18 2014, 02:04 PM
soapfan4life
Feb 18 2014, 02:01 PM
I actually think Abby's reaction was right on point. I know we can all argue about why the slept together in the first place but to Abby it is because he wanted her at that moment and she sees it that he still wants her. She did come off a little whiny at first but I liked how she stated her point at the end "When you figure out what that Ej wants let me know" and then walked away. I felt like she was putting the ball in his court he has to make the next move. Only time will tell what will happen but at this point I don't see Ej being able to stay away from her.
The look on EJ's face as he sat alone in the living room said to me Abby's words got to him.
I think the affair and their actions are getting to him. He's probably wondering how he got to where he is.
Or he's legitimately pondering the question she posed. Beneath the lies and manipulations, who is the real EJ?
I loved Ejabby's last scene today and it's a scene I've been waiting for because for me it changes everything about how EJ is suppose to love Sami more than life......maybe he doesn't. Why is he sleeping with another woman when he has the love of his life (maybe not in bed at the moment, but he does have her)? Maybe it's not just that EJ is just being a man and will sleep with anything that wears lipstick. Maybe Sami's not the love of his life. I'm not saying that Abby is, I'm just saying for me today that scene between Ejabby opened the door for Sami not being the one.
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Feb 18 2014, 02:56 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:51 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:47 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:43 PM

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The show doesn't write women as strong at all...so it's expected.

How many things did Ej do to Sami and she continues to come back? It's just stupid. Why should Abby have more self respect than any other female on this show? I wish the writers will have her move on but obviously she feels she needs an explanation from Ej before she does. It's totally believable behavior if you ask me.
I think he's been pretty clear in their last two conversations. She just doesn't like the message. The only explanation I have is that she's 22 and sexually inexperienced, so she doesn't get how sex and love are different.
In today's convo he might have been more clear but in the last convo he wasn't....you don't tell her to stay behind at your house for no reason. You don't rub her shoulders, say wonderful things to her, make her feel good for no reason. He is saying this and doing things to contradict that and as we know by spoilers he almost gives in at the end of the week.

and I will never believe that a person that is 22 (and btw she's more like 26) wouldn't get the difference between one or the other, if the guy didn't give her messages that make her think that maybe he doesn't mean what he's saying. HIs actions contradict his words....frankly even if I was young and in the situation that Abby is in, I would immediately question the fact that he continues to SAY he loves his fiancee while he boinks me...sorry that shit don't fly....if he loved the woman enough he wouldn't even give me the time of day.
He didn't ask her to stay behind for no reason. He asked her to stay behind for a very specific reason - so he could tell her it was over.

I think most people are usually very nice, complimentary, and try to make the other person feel good when they're breaking up with them. He gave her a very stereotypical break-up spiel... "It's not you, it's me. You deserve better. You're wonderful and have your whole life ahead of you." Blah, blah, blah. Total standard break-up schlock.
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Feb 18 2014, 02:51 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:47 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:43 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:31 PM

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Abby keeps on coming back for more harsher turn downs....it's been called a mistake, he's working it out with Sami... She's his family...he loves her...he never promised her anything...Abby hears all this but comes back for more.

I'll think about Sami when She finds out what this snake is doing. Right now Abby knows that she's a sidechick and accepts that, Abby she's hoping for a different answer next time.
The show doesn't write women as strong at all...so it's expected.

How many things did Ej do to Sami and she continues to come back? It's just stupid. Why should Abby have more self respect than any other female on this show? I wish the writers will have her move on but obviously she feels she needs an explanation from Ej before she does. It's totally believable behavior if you ask me.
I think he's been pretty clear in their last two conversations. She just doesn't like the message. The only explanation I have is that she's 22 and sexually inexperienced, so she doesn't get how sex and love are different.
Honestly, her inexperience to me as an explanation that is getting weak. She has to be catching a clue by now....she's talking so much but really not listening well.

She was mature enough to handle the sex, now be a grown women who is being turned down, and act like it.

Just because she doesn't like the answer he gives, she should pull up her big girl panties and get a steppin. If he cares for her and realizes it later, he'll find her.
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Feb 18 2014, 02:51 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:47 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:43 PM
Partnersincrime
Feb 18 2014, 02:31 PM

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Abby keeps on coming back for more harsher turn downs....it's been called a mistake, he's working it out with Sami... She's his family...he loves her...he never promised her anything...Abby hears all this but comes back for more.

I'll think about Sami when She finds out what this snake is doing. Right now Abby knows that she's a sidechick and accepts that, Abby she's hoping for a different answer next time.
The show doesn't write women as strong at all...so it's expected.

How many things did Ej do to Sami and she continues to come back? It's just stupid. Why should Abby have more self respect than any other female on this show? I wish the writers will have her move on but obviously she feels she needs an explanation from Ej before she does. It's totally believable behavior if you ask me.
I think he's been pretty clear in their last two conversations. She just doesn't like the message. The only explanation I have is that she's 22 and sexually inexperienced, so she doesn't get how sex and love are different.
In the way they writing Sami now I not sure Sami know the difference now either
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tomsawyer
Feb 18 2014, 02:30 PM
DiMeraFan67
Feb 18 2014, 02:19 PM
I must be wearing some serious shipper shades for the first time in my life because I haven't seen crazy Abby yet. I think people are so hellbent on this turning into a FA story that they are just seeing it take place but it isn't. She did give off clingy vibes today but that isn't crazy. She asks EJ the tough questions and he doesn't give answers. Yeah he has said that he loves Sami and just wants to be with her and that Abby needs to move on, but he also said they were a mistake and couldn't happen again then did.

I'm not saying Abby isn't lowering herself to keep sleeping with an engaged man, who is trying to push her away, but it isn't coming off nearly as stalkerish or crazy as some are acting. Again maybe my shipper shades are a little tinted here because I'm not seeing it.
Nah, I ship opposite of you and I don't think she's coming off as crazy either. Definitely desperate and clingy, but not crazy. The story would be a lot more interesting if she was crazy, LOL.
Yeah I agree. I don't get crazy but I do get desperate a now bordering on pathetic. He has now told her multiple times it was a mistake and he loves Sami etc. I still don't see this as being more than a man hurt & alienated by the woman he loves and acting out with a very willing body.

Meanwhile Abby is throwing attitude like she knows ej etc. again on what basis? Grunting? O face? So I don't see crazy but I could see the potential. Her insistence on seeing more than what is there could possibly take her to crazy town but I don't see tptb going there

Last time I checked none of the things ej has done has indicated any interest in more than fucking. Being kind to someone doesnt mean you're falling for them.
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Feb 18 2014, 02:59 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:18 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:13 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:04 PM

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I think the affair and their actions are getting to him. He's probably wondering how he got to where he is.
Or he's legitimately pondering the question she posed. Beneath the lies and manipulations, who is the real EJ?
I loved Ejabby's last scene today and it's a scene I've been waiting for because for me it changes everything about how EJ is suppose to love Sami more than life......maybe he doesn't. Why is he sleeping with another woman when he has the love of his life (maybe not in bed at the moment, but he does have her)? Maybe it's not just that EJ is just being a man and will sleep with anything that wears lipstick. Maybe Sami's not the love of his life. I'm not saying that Abby is, I'm just saying for me today that scene between Ejabby opened the door for Sami not being the one.
I believe that door was ripped off its hinges years ago.
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Feb 18 2014, 03:01 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:51 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:47 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:43 PM

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The show doesn't write women as strong at all...so it's expected.

How many things did Ej do to Sami and she continues to come back? It's just stupid. Why should Abby have more self respect than any other female on this show? I wish the writers will have her move on but obviously she feels she needs an explanation from Ej before she does. It's totally believable behavior if you ask me.
I think he's been pretty clear in their last two conversations. She just doesn't like the message. The only explanation I have is that she's 22 and sexually inexperienced, so she doesn't get how sex and love are different.
Honestly, her inexperience to me as an explanation that is getting weak. She has to be catching a clue by now....she's talking so much but really not listening well.

She was mature enough to handle the sex, now be a grown women who is being turned down, and act like it.

Just because she doesn't like the answer he gives, she should pull up her big girl panties and get a steppin. If he cares for her and realizes it later, he'll find her.
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OliveAnn
Feb 18 2014, 02:35 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:30 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:19 PM
I must be wearing some serious shipper shades for the first time in my life because I haven't seen crazy Abby yet. I think people are so hellbent on this turning into a FA story that they are just seeing it take place but it isn't. She did give off clingy vibes today but that isn't crazy. She asks EJ the tough questions and he doesn't give answers. Yeah he has said that he loves Sami and just wants to be with her and that Abby needs to move on, but he also said they were a mistake and couldn't happen again then did.

I'm not saying Abby isn't lowering herself to keep sleeping with an engaged man, who is trying to push her away, but it isn't coming off nearly as stalkerish or crazy as some are acting. Again maybe my shipper shades are a little tinted here because I'm not seeing it.
Nah, I ship opposite of you and I don't think she's coming off as crazy either. Definitely desperate and clingy, but not crazy. The story would be a lot more interesting if she was crazy, LOL.
This is why I'm hoping this storyline ends soon, for Kate Mansi's sake. Looking at the reactions to Abby these past few days, it's obvious that people can only tolerate her when she's in steamy sex scenes. The second she opens her mouth, the following posts come up: "Abby is so desperate/crazy/clingy/annoying." The conclusion is that the character is only tolerable when she's like a porn character: don't talk and you're good. I was hoping this storyline would bring some character development to Abby, but it's not happening. And Kate Mansi deserves better than that.
These are simply your opinions that you are projecting on the general audience to make sweeping conclusions about her character's tolerability. I am sure there are many people who find Abby interesting and more than just tolerable out of the bedroom just like there are others who will always find her annoying and cant stand her. That goes for any fictional character.
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Feb 18 2014, 02:12 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 02:10 PM
GIF requests?!
WilSon and Lumi
Abigail's semi meltdown
EJ/Sami/Abby
isn't that about 3/4 of the show?
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