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Tuesday, February 18th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 18 2014, 01:31 AM (20,427 Views)
TreasureCove
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Everything is just the same as it was though. He made no confessions and gave no apologies, yet he was rewarded with her body after hurting her again.
Edited by TreasureCove, Feb 18 2014, 06:12 PM.
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TreasureCove
Feb 18 2014, 04:16 PM
AidanGreensFan
Feb 18 2014, 04:03 PM
TreasureCove
Feb 18 2014, 03:34 PM
AidanGreensFan
Feb 18 2014, 03:03 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI still don't see this as being more than a man hurt & alienated by the woman he loves and acting out with a very willing body.

Meanwhile Abby is throwing attitude like she knows ej etc. again on what basis? Grunting? O face? So I don't see crazy but I could see the potential. Her insistence on seeing more than what is there could possibly take her to crazy town but I don't see tptb going there

Last time I checked none of the things ej has done has indicated any interest in more than fucking. Being kind to someone doesnt mean you're falling for them.
I could easily replace Abby's name with Sami in what you wrote in your second paragraphs, given how he treats and treated Sami. But on the bolded, EJ is the one who has been doing the hurting. He only had to tell the truth instead of making jokes and openly taunting Eric while keeping the information he had secret. Information that if the police had, like a description of Dr. Fat Face, confirmation of the drugging and edited flash drive to go with Eric's words would have furthered the investigation for the police into clearing Eric's name without Nicole and Daniel going rouge and becoming targets, nearly leading to Eric and Nicole being murdered.

And he is still lying to Sami about Eric. Uncaring and unapologetic about hurting her family, hurting her in the process. He told her he has "come to believe" that Eric was drugged and raped. Implying that he was justified in his abuse towards Sami's twin, and Sami is dumb enough to believe him *again*
You're of course referring to the most ridiculous plot point of all that started this entire shitfest. EJ finding our about kristen about 5 minutes before the wedding His keeping it from Sami was even more ridiculous. They spent all of 2013 showing ejs undying devotion to Sami to the point of him begging Stefano on his hands and knees only to do this? There is so much WTFery in this story it's farce like

Your post perfectly illustrates just how BAD and inconsistently these characters have been written since last fall.


Was there a writing shift at that point? Does anyone know?
The bad and inconsistent characterization and shitfest started waaaayyyy before last fall.
Waaayyyy longer. Heck, through 2012, it was impossible to figure out who/what Sami wanted from one scene to the next. There was no point in investing in any of her relationships because you came to realize everything could shift at any moment.

Sami and EJ being together at all is a FAR worse example of bad and inconsistent writing than anything that's happened since last Fall.

EJ lying to cover his ass is pretty much the only consistent thing about the character through the years.
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concerned
Feb 18 2014, 04:54 PM
greeneyedgirl
Feb 18 2014, 04:48 PM
and when Abigail pushed that wine away, I think she has got to recalibrate herself (like KM said). She will probably realize that her tactics are not working to hang on to Ej and we will get her faking a pregnancy.
Well if he falls for a fake pregnancy a second time - he deserves it.

Seriously this man never learns.

EJ - what happens when you have sex with someone and you don't tell you partner about it....
It blows up in your face...once is a mistake, twice is just stupidity.
Who said anything about fake pregnancy? They had sex multiple times.. and she is young and fertile.

There is a point here though, EJ should know that sex leads to pregnancy. Really,.. he hasn't even asked her if she is using the pill. :rolleyes:
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Tripp
Feb 18 2014, 06:05 PM
Halloween Family
Feb 18 2014, 05:39 PM
greeneyedgirl
Feb 18 2014, 05:33 PM
THIS! I don't know many Ejami fans, myself included, that have stayed a fan of the pairing because of some fairy tale romance being told. Their history is twisted, even morbid at times but their chemistry always reels me back in.
What can I say? I'm a chemistry addict.
well I enjoy chemistry too but it's subjective. There isn't enough chemistry for me to accept Ejami as a standard couple much less a couple that treats each other like shit on a good day. To me, shipping is about enjoying two people who clearly love each other, not trying to excuse the bad behavior of their characters in relation to their treatment of each other.

Also, I'm also someone who expects more from a TV show than just told "these people are in love because the characters have said outloud". Actions speak louder than words. Sami and EJ's actions are about as screwed up as you can get on this show.

And I am so thankful that AS is leaving and Ejami can be just a painful memory.

I totally agree with you about actions speak louder words, the "look" EJ gives Sami speaks volumes about his love for Sami as sick and twisted as they are. I'm hoping they can remain this way up until Alison Sweeney's last day, with any luck.
Edited by Halloween Family, Feb 18 2014, 06:46 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
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Feb 18 2014, 03:47 PM
Here's what I don't get about the current Days' stories...

- Kate is chasing after Rafe who really wants Jordan
- Theresa is chasing after Dan who really wants Jen
- Abby is chasing after EJ who really wants Sami

So where are all the hot guys chasing after the women????? For a show with an audience that is overwhelmingly female, I'm surprised at how obsessive and clingy they like to write many of their female characters.
The problem is DAYS thinks Jordan/Jen/Sami are better catches than Kate/Abby or Theresa....thats the problem right there.
Edited by Mitchapalooza, Feb 18 2014, 06:32 PM.
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tomsawyer
Feb 18 2014, 05:12 PM
Halloween Family
Feb 18 2014, 05:08 PM
greeneyedgirl
Feb 18 2014, 04:48 PM
and when Abigail pushed that wine away, I think she has got to recalibrate herself (like KM said). She will probably realize that her tactics are not working to hang on to Ej and we will get her faking a pregnancy.
I took it as an anvil that she's pregnant but your recalibrating comment makes sense. It was almost like she was regrouping.


I love the Ejami love scene. The way Sami looked when she walked into the living room, she had a nice warm glow. The minimal dialogue was fantastic! The look on Ej's face shows how in love he is with Sami.
I have to say that in spite of the crap writing for Ejami lately (and really much of the last 7 years), JS is always able to convince me that EJ is in love with Sami when they're in scenes together. He sells it 100%. It's pretty much the only reason I've waded through all their shit storylines, LOL.
True, I did also for a VERY long time. All thanks to JS amazing acting. But I had enough,.. nothing can save this wrecking train anymore. JMO.
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nickyj12345
Feb 18 2014, 05:24 PM
I am greatly going to enjoy the final destruction of Ejami when Ejabby comes out. AS plays hurt andangry better than schmoopy and romantic.
Sadly this is true. But she has been tolerable with Abby. Again JMO.
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Total WilSon love fest for me today, I was really worried when there was really no WilSon spoilers for this week. I love that Will bought Sonny a ring and both actors totally sold their happiness and love(for each other). I am so glad that the writers have gone with making Will's parents supportive, exspecially Lucas. Bryan D was all kinds of awesome in his scenes on the whole but especially so when he called Sonny and Will 'sons', I admit to having a teeny-tiny tear in my eye. I really liked the (maple)syrupy-sweet love fest with the boys, but do agree, they need a bit more drama/anxiety in their lives to keep them interesting and on the front burner. Just no third party interlopers/or infidelity's please.

The next couple of weeks will be all kinds of awesome watching Adrienne and Sami square off as wedding planners! Hopefully we get a bit of comic relief with these two, I'd love to see both women providing their arguments for why their son should be married in their own respective mansions. heh

I recorded the show today, so fortunately, I could re-watch all the WilSon bits and FF through:

Jennifer and Liam, Dan and Theresa,Ejabby, Ejami@homehavingsexyfuntimes, All Jafe and Jafe and Kate scenes.

Leaving me with Kate and Lucas and her martini, EJ/Sami/Abigail at the park and Theresa barely bitch slapping JJ. I can't believe they took my cute little rebel with out a cause and turned him into another pod-person shipping Dannifer. No matter how many times the ptb's try this couple (danifer) will never be interesting.

Edited by sunnyways, Feb 18 2014, 06:43 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
Feb 18 2014, 03:20 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 12:13 PM
Liam heard about JJ's hearing results from Maxine. She's now spreading gossip off-screen, lol.
Maxine =

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For some reason, I see this as being Percy spying on EJ/Abby at the cabin....
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Matt
Feb 18 2014, 06:50 PM
Mitchapalooza
Feb 18 2014, 03:20 PM
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Feb 18 2014, 12:13 PM
Liam heard about JJ's hearing results from Maxine. She's now spreading gossip off-screen, lol.
Maxine =

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For some reason, I see this as being Percy spying on EJ/Abby at the cabin....
Haha yeah - it certainly fits with that FOR sure!
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kimmmie


It may not be a popular point of view, but being new to Days I don't have an affiliation for very many characters or couples. Ericol won me over immediately..... The other's not so much - but I did enjoy today's show.
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Mitchapalooza
Feb 18 2014, 06:31 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 18 2014, 03:47 PM
Here's what I don't get about the current Days' stories...

- Kate is chasing after Rafe who really wants Jordan
- Theresa is chasing after Dan who really wants Jen
- Abby is chasing after EJ who really wants Sami

So where are all the hot guys chasing after the women????? For a show with an audience that is overwhelmingly female, I'm surprised at how obsessive and clingy they like to write many of their female characters.
The problem is DAYS thinks Jordan/Jen/Sami are better catches than Kate/Abby or Theresa....thats the problem right there.
What's that saying? Well-behaved women rarely make history...but they get all the soap boys?
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crookedhalo
Feb 18 2014, 05:50 PM
magicsteacher
Feb 18 2014, 05:44 PM
freedom
Feb 18 2014, 02:57 PM
Why do I have a feeling they plan on reuniting Kate and Rafe? :(
Oh gawd...perish the thought of Rafe and Kate again. Great granny needs to move on and stop acting like a needy teenager. It's so obvious that Rafe is totally into Jordan; Kate needs to accept it and find a man her own age.
I don't think so, about Kate, I think her and her actions will get someone killed. I'm thinking Cheryl, and Lucas and Rafe will join forces.
I'm hoping it gets good and messy. Jade said in a radio interview that jaws would drop and fireworks would be kabooming. The story definitely needs some action! If Kate is to remain in it, as seems to be the case, I'd want her cut throat with her manipulations. She should be taking complete joy at garnering control and wrecking havoc. I'd like to see Jordan rise to a level of holding her own against Kate too. I believe she's scrappy due to her past and I'd like to see that determined grit show.

As far as Days going back to any kind of romance with Rafe and Kate? Good Lord I hope not! Let the two month booty call be the extent of it. I'd never buy any sort of "love" affair between these two. Maybe when the dust settles they'll actually consider bringing in a Bill Horton for her (so much story potential) or at least a professional tycoon that feels more her equal. (And yes, a younger tycoon would be just as welcome as one her age)
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Tripp
Feb 18 2014, 06:05 PM
Halloween Family
Feb 18 2014, 05:39 PM
greeneyedgirl
Feb 18 2014, 05:33 PM
THIS! I don't know many Ejami fans, myself included, that have stayed a fan of the pairing because of some fairy tale romance being told. Their history is twisted, even morbid at times but their chemistry always reels me back in.
What can I say? I'm a chemistry addict.
well I enjoy chemistry too but it's subjective. There isn't enough chemistry for me to accept Ejami as a standard couple much less a couple that treats each other like shit on a good day. To me, shipping is about enjoying two people who clearly love each other, not trying to excuse the bad behavior of their characters in relation to their treatment of each other.

Also, I'm also someone who expects more from a TV show than just told "these people are in love because the characters have said outloud". Actions speak louder than words. Sami and EJ's actions are about as screwed up as you can get on this show.

And I am so thankful that AS is leaving and Ejami can be just a painful memory.
I love you, Tripp. Have I told you lately I love you?????

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What I don't get is that Abby is being told she is confused, delusional, crazy, stalkerish, immature...depending on who is posting, but.............
WHAT is the mature act about EJ jumping her bones to begin with? THAT'S mature? Seriously. He's the male version of a tease. I don't want to hear about "Boys will be boys". Damn double standard. I don't want to hear about the twisted, cray-cray chemistry love between EJ and Sami. Saying it is not going to make some of us see it. Same with the mixed signals EJ is giving. Although I do think he's the male Sami. Soon as Sami withholds her favors, I suspect EJ will be seeking Abby out.
And some females do equate sex with love, or at least feelings. I'm actually one of those crazy old-fashioned people who would have difficulty with someone doing me without having some sort of feeling for me (if I wasn't married, that is). And I'm 53. For some women, the act means more than the hormonal release. And I suspect that is what is supposed to be what is happening with Abby. If she was the type that accepted sex as sex, she would have lost her virginity a LONG time ago (if she was real, that is). It would be weird to have someone who has lost her virginity after high school as someone who just suddenly wants sex as sex. I would think.

Edited to add: EJ has been known to talk out of both sides of his mouth, so how is she supposed to believe him when he says to bugger off? Nicely, of course. He's not exactly reliable. Now, she SHOULD have common sense, but love is a weird thing...........
Edited by ladyofthelake, Feb 18 2014, 07:44 PM.
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Feb 18 2014, 06:05 PM [/quote
well I enjoy chemistry too but it's subjective. There isn't enough chemistry for me to accept Ejami as a standard couple much less a couple that treats each other like shit on a good day. To me, shipping is about enjoying two people who clearly love each other, not trying to excuse the bad behavior of their characters in relation to their treatment of each other.

Also, I'm also someone who expects more from a TV show than just told "these people are in love because the characters have said outloud". Actions speak louder than words. Sami and EJ's actions are about as screwed up as you can get on this show.

And I am so thankful that AS is leaving and Ejami can be just a painful memory.
This is a post that dreams are made of.
So much truth.
So to the point.
Pay this guy or girl, whatever the case may be. :hail: :hail: :hail:
Edited by Ashtonion, Feb 18 2014, 07:43 PM.
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ladyofthelake
Feb 18 2014, 07:42 PM
What I don't get is that Abby is being told she is confused, delusional, crazy, stalkerish, immature...depending on who is posting, but.............
WHAT is the mature act about EJ jumping her bones to begin with? THAT'S mature? Seriously. He's the male version of a tease. I don't want to hear about "Boys will be boys". Damn double standard. I don't want to hear about the twisted, cray-cray chemistry love between EJ and Sami. Saying it is not going to make some of us see it. Same with the mixed signals EJ is giving. Although I do think he's the male Sami. Soon as Sami withholds her favors, I suspect EJ will be seeking Abby out.
And some females do equate sex with love, or at least feelings. I'm actually one of those crazy old-fashioned people who would have difficulty with someone doing me without having some sort of feeling for me (if I wasn't married, that is). And I'm 53. For some women, the act means more than the hormonal release. And I suspect that is what is supposed to be what is happening with Abby. If she was the type that accepted sex as sex, she would have lost her virginity a LONG time ago (if she was real, that is). It would be weird to have someone who has lost her virginity after high school as someone who just suddenly wants sex as sex. I would think.

Edited to add: EJ has been known to talk out of both sides of his mouth, so how is she supposed to believe him when he says to bugger off? Nicely, of course. He's not exactly reliable. Now, she SHOULD have common sense, but love is a weird thing...........
And thank you for this! Abby DARING to put feelings towards casual sex means she's the immature one while EJ's cheating with her OVER AND OVER is excused because he's a man and Sami withheld her body from him for too long. The only change I'd make that now Sami isn't withholding favors, EJ probably is still going to want to tap Abby because Mr. Evil master manipulator devious Dimera can't figure out how to handle telling a sexually inexperienced girl to go away and it really boils down to HE ENJOYS NAILING ABIGAIL.

As for Abby, I believe this story is actually fairly realistic. If Abby was way more experienced in sexual encounters, then she would be deluding herself but Abby isn't and the show has bent over backwards reminding us of that. And the only thing that comes in second to her inexperience is her guilt which isn't enough to keep her from still wanting him and that confuses her all the more (thus she's convinced herself there is something more there).

Now I do think Matt made a great point earlier in this thread when he said one problem with Abby's motivations is she needs someone to talk to about this, so we can put voice to her actions and really understand what is going on with her.

What I saw today, in that moment in the square with EJ, is something completely different. She kept asking who the real EJ is and the way I read the scene is EJ is so busy showing different sides of himself to everyone in Salem, does he even know what he wants/who he is? And damned if I'm not dragged into the Ejabby relationship because this uptight, goody two shoes Horton girl seems to understand EJ a hell of a lot better than his own family and "object" of his obsession. I think that is fanfuckingtastic.

Now excuse me while I go find a hot Ejabby scene to watch on youtube.
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Feb 18 2014, 02:19 PM
blueskies
Feb 18 2014, 01:37 PM
this to me feels real. EJ says he wants Sami, Abby says she wants EJ and is upset he wants Sami.
She needs Rupert Everett... "He's chasing her. You're chasing him. Who's chasing you?"
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Can somebody buy Abby a clue?
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anyone else starting to wonder where Marlena is? I think we've seen her exactly twice since the wedding meltdown.
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Feb 18 2014, 07:17 PM
Mitchapalooza
Feb 18 2014, 06:31 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 18 2014, 03:47 PM
Here's what I don't get about the current Days' stories...

- Kate is chasing after Rafe who really wants Jordan
- Theresa is chasing after Dan who really wants Jen
- Abby is chasing after EJ who really wants Sami

So where are all the hot guys chasing after the women????? For a show with an audience that is overwhelmingly female, I'm surprised at how obsessive and clingy they like to write many of their female characters.
The problem is DAYS thinks Jordan/Jen/Sami are better catches than Kate/Abby or Theresa....thats the problem right there.
What's that saying? Well-behaved women rarely make history...but they get all the soap boys?
That doesn't explain Sami.
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