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SOD: Sami faces off with Nicole
Topic Started: Feb 21 2014, 02:33 AM (5,665 Views)
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They're ignoring the part where Nicole wasn't dancing through the streets gleefully ripping up Eric's heart and throwing the pieces in the air like confetti. Nicole's life was wrecked and her heart was broken when the child porn she was forced into was revealed during that time. But Nicole wasn't allowed to defend herself.
Oh, I totally agree. It's amazing to me that the things Nicole is reamed for are the things over which she had no control -- her marriage to Lucas/breaking Eric's heart, her miscarriages, her porn past/abuse past. She's done some bad things in the past, but it's the stuff that's not her fault at all that Salemites throw in her face.

Somehow no one ever mentions that she was forced into some of those situations or that it's Sami's fault she can't carry kids to term or that it's a terrible thing to taunt someone about her miscarriages or sexual abuse.
I don't understand how Nicole had no control over accepting 5 mill from Kate to breakup with Eric and marry Lucas? How do you blackmail someone and pay them at the same time? I haven't watched the show for long but that's strange.
Kate threatens to tell the truth about Nicole past to Eric if she does not agree but if does she get 5 mil.Nicole was threaten by people from her past to give them money or they hurt her they would not leave unless she would give them the money so Nicole cash bit from money of the check Kate gave her to pay them and since she toke from the money it mean she agree to Kate deal
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Feb 25 2014, 08:45 AM
It's not really fair to blame Sami for Nicole's fertility issues without putting at least half of the blame on Nicole. Nicole is the one who chose to ignore her doctor's orders to stay in bed, lure Sami down to the morgue, then attack her. If she'd done as she was told, she wouldn't have lost the ability to conceive. Besides, Nicole has gone on to conceive twice since then, so Sami's no longer in the equation at all.
But Nicole got bullet in the first place because Sami push her Nicole should blame Sami for not able carry full term pregnancy.until Nicole will give birth of alive child.and Nicole thought Sami tried to kill her since she woke up she saw Sami hand on plug of her support system.
Yes, and that's why I said Sami could shoulder half of the blame. But that's a moot point, because Nicole's body clearly repaired itself, seeing as she has gone on to conceive twice.

Edited by six, Feb 27 2014, 09:06 AM.
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Feb 25 2014, 08:45 AM
It's not really fair to blame Sami for Nicole's fertility issues without putting at least half of the blame on Nicole. Nicole is the one who chose to ignore her doctor's orders to stay in bed, lure Sami down to the morgue, then attack her. If she'd done as she was told, she wouldn't have lost the ability to conceive. Besides, Nicole has gone on to conceive twice since then, so Sami's no longer in the equation at all.
But Nicole got bullet in the first place because Sami push her Nicole should blame Sami for not able carry full term pregnancy.until Nicole will give birth of alive child.and Nicole thought Sami tried to kill her since she woke up she saw Sami hand on plug of her support system.
Sami had been hiding in Nicole's room to kill her to stop her from revealing that Lucas wasn't abusing Will, that Sami lied about Lucas hitting him.

So, Sami did try to kill her, than changed her mind. Her hand was on the plug because she was making sure it was pushed all the way back in after she just tried to pull it out.
You got the facts little wrongs Sami was in room because she thought Nicole going to tell anyone she tried to kill(Sami push Nicole to save herself but she knew Nicole will not see that way)her and scarred what Victor will do her when he find out she thought of pulling the plug but when she chose not she saw it loose and put it back and than Nicole woke up.it nothing about Lucas lie Sami did although one of the dirt Victor had on Sami it tape of Sami admit lucas did not hit will
No, it did partially have to do with Lucas not hitting Will. Part of the reason Sami wanted to kill Nicole was because Nicole and Victor had used that tape to force her to break up with Brandon. Sami knew that if Nicole was dead, she'd get Brandon back.

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Feb 27 2014, 07:07 AM
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Feb 27 2014, 05:30 AM
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Feb 25 2014, 08:45 AM
It's not really fair to blame Sami for Nicole's fertility issues without putting at least half of the blame on Nicole. Nicole is the one who chose to ignore her doctor's orders to stay in bed, lure Sami down to the morgue, then attack her. If she'd done as she was told, she wouldn't have lost the ability to conceive. Besides, Nicole has gone on to conceive twice since then, so Sami's no longer in the equation at all.
But Nicole got bullet in the first place because Sami push her Nicole should blame Sami for not able carry full term pregnancy.until Nicole will give birth of alive child.and Nicole thought Sami tried to kill her since she woke up she saw Sami hand on plug of her support system.
Sami had been hiding in Nicole's room to kill her to stop her from revealing that Lucas wasn't abusing Will, that Sami lied about Lucas hitting him.

So, Sami did try to kill her, than changed her mind. Her hand was on the plug because she was making sure it was pushed all the way back in after she just tried to pull it out.
Sami did not try to kill Nicole. She never tried to pull the plug. She just rested her hand on the it and immediately changed her mind, then she double checked to make sure she didn't loosen it when she touched it. Which is a good example of what I was saying earlier. Sometimes people don't have their facts straight, because they're sincerely mistaken.
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Sami had been hiding in Nicole's room to kill her to stop her from revealing that Lucas wasn't abusing Will, that Sami lied about Lucas hitting him.

So, Sami did try to kill her, than changed her mind. Her hand was on the plug because she was making sure it was pushed all the way back in after she just tried to pull it out.
You got the facts little wrongs Sami was in room because she thought Nicole going to tell anyone she tried to kill(Sami push Nicole to save herself but she knew Nicole will not see that way)her and scarred what Victor will do her when he find out she thought of pulling the plug but when she chose not she saw it loose and put it back and than Nicole woke up.it nothing about Lucas lie Sami did although one of the dirt Victor had on Sami it tape of Sami admit lucas did not hit will
No, it did partially have to do with Lucas not hitting Will. Sami wanted to kill Nicole because Nicole and Victor had used that tape to force her to break up with Brandon. Sami knew that if Nicole was dead, she'd get Brandon back.

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Feb 27 2014, 07:07 AM
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Feb 27 2014, 05:30 AM
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Feb 25 2014, 08:45 AM
It's not really fair to blame Sami for Nicole's fertility issues without putting at least half of the blame on Nicole. Nicole is the one who chose to ignore her doctor's orders to stay in bed, lure Sami down to the morgue, then attack her. If she'd done as she was told, she wouldn't have lost the ability to conceive. Besides, Nicole has gone on to conceive twice since then, so Sami's no longer in the equation at all.
But Nicole got bullet in the first place because Sami push her Nicole should blame Sami for not able carry full term pregnancy.until Nicole will give birth of alive child.and Nicole thought Sami tried to kill her since she woke up she saw Sami hand on plug of her support system.
Sami had been hiding in Nicole's room to kill her to stop her from revealing that Lucas wasn't abusing Will, that Sami lied about Lucas hitting him.

So, Sami did try to kill her, than changed her mind. Her hand was on the plug because she was making sure it was pushed all the way back in after she just tried to pull it out.
Sami did not try to kill Nicole. She never tried to pull the plug. She just rested her hand on the it and immediately changed her mind, then she double checked to make sure she didn't loosen it when she touched it. Which is a good example of what I was saying earlier. Sometimes people don't have their facts straight, because they're sincerely mistaken.
Sami wanted Nicole dead because she did not want Nicole tell Brandon she push her and make it sound she tried to kill her and than Victor will destroy her she have even fantasy about it.Sami was in hotel to search dirt on Nicole because Nicole blackmail her to stay away from Brandon with the tape Sami admit there lucas never hit will.but Sami wanting Nicole dead it more she will not saying to anyone she tried to kill her and less with tape even it bouns Nicole died it might mean Victor will stop blackmail her from Nicole behalf to stay away from Brandon.
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It's not really fair to blame Sami for Nicole's fertility issues without putting at least half of the blame on Nicole. Nicole is the one who chose to ignore her doctor's orders to stay in bed, lure Sami down to the morgue, then attack her. If she'd done as she was told, she wouldn't have lost the ability to conceive. Besides, Nicole has gone on to conceive twice since then, so Sami's no longer in the equation at all.
But Nicole got bullet in the first place because Sami push her Nicole should blame Sami for not able carry full term pregnancy.until Nicole will give birth of alive child.and Nicole thought Sami tried to kill her since she woke up she saw Sami hand on plug of her support system.
Yes, and that's why I said Sami could shoulder half of the blame. But that's a moot point, because Nicole's body clearly repaired itself, seeing as she has gone on to conceive twice.

Nicole was able to get pregnant but she was not able to give birth to alive child. Nicole having 2 dead babies mean she still have problem.
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Feb 27 2014, 09:59 AM
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Feb 25 2014, 08:45 AM
It's not really fair to blame Sami for Nicole's fertility issues without putting at least half of the blame on Nicole. Nicole is the one who chose to ignore her doctor's orders to stay in bed, lure Sami down to the morgue, then attack her. If she'd done as she was told, she wouldn't have lost the ability to conceive. Besides, Nicole has gone on to conceive twice since then, so Sami's no longer in the equation at all.
But Nicole got bullet in the first place because Sami push her Nicole should blame Sami for not able carry full term pregnancy.until Nicole will give birth of alive child.and Nicole thought Sami tried to kill her since she woke up she saw Sami hand on plug of her support system.
Yes, and that's why I said Sami could shoulder half of the blame. But that's a moot point, because Nicole's body clearly repaired itself, seeing as she has gone on to conceive twice.

Nicole was able to get pregnant but she was not able to give birth to alive child. Nicole having 2 dead babies mean she still have problem.
I'm not sure what you're taking issue with in the other post. I didn't say the only reason Sami considered killing Nicole was because of the tape. I said it was partially about the tape, and it was.

As for this post, that's not true. The bullet damaged Nicole's fallopian tube. It was repaired, but Nicole caused what was believed to be irreparable damage when she attacked Sami. Nicole's other fallopian tube was already blocked with scar tissue for unrelated reasons. Colin told her it would be unlikely for her to conceive through natural means. He didn't say she couldn't carry to term. Nicole was told that she couldn't carry to term, but that was years later, after she had the miscarriage, which caused further damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFkfXu6Z9OA
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So, was Sami and Nicole's "face-off" really those two minutes of scenes on Monday? If so, that was really disappointing, and didn't really need to have an entire SOD article dedicated to it.
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Feb 27 2014, 10:17 AM
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Yes, and that's why I said Sami could shoulder half of the blame. But that's a moot point, because Nicole's body clearly repaired itself, seeing as she has gone on to conceive twice.

Nicole was able to get pregnant but she was not able to give birth to alive child. Nicole having 2 dead babies mean she still have problem.
I'm not sure what you're taking issue with in the other post. I didn't say the only reason Sami considered killing Nicole was because of the tape. I said it was partially about the tape, and it was.

As for this post, that's not true. The bullet damaged Nicole's fallopian tube. It was repaired, but Nicole caused what was believed to be irreparable damage when she attacked Sami. Nicole's other fallopian tube was already blocked with scar tissue for unrelated reasons. Colin told her it would be unlikely for her to conceive through natural means. He didn't say she couldn't carry to term. Nicole was told that she couldn't carry to term, but that was years later, after she had the miscarriage, which caused further damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFkfXu6Z9OA
I thought Nicole was told before she had the miscarriage that she wouldn't be able to carry to term....

Regardless, there has clearly been changes to this story over the years. When it happened originally she couldn't conceive...then she became pregnant in 2008 and that went out the window, so then the docs told her she couldn't carry to term and that appeared to be her issue....so then she got pregnant again and carried to term only to have it still born...so both theories are now thrown out the window just like everything this show does.
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You got the facts little wrongs Sami was in room because she thought Nicole going to tell anyone she tried to kill(Sami push Nicole to save herself but she knew Nicole will not see that way)her and scarred what Victor will do her when he find out she thought of pulling the plug but when she chose not she saw it loose and put it back and than Nicole woke up.it nothing about Lucas lie Sami did although one of the dirt Victor had on Sami it tape of Sami admit lucas did not hit will
No, it did partially have to do with Lucas not hitting Will. Sami wanted to kill Nicole because Nicole and Victor had used that tape to force her to break up with Brandon. Sami knew that if Nicole was dead, she'd get Brandon back.

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Feb 27 2014, 07:07 AM
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Sami had been hiding in Nicole's room to kill her to stop her from revealing that Lucas wasn't abusing Will, that Sami lied about Lucas hitting him.

So, Sami did try to kill her, than changed her mind. Her hand was on the plug because she was making sure it was pushed all the way back in after she just tried to pull it out.
Sami did not try to kill Nicole. She never tried to pull the plug. She just rested her hand on the it and immediately changed her mind, then she double checked to make sure she didn't loosen it when she touched it. Which is a good example of what I was saying earlier. Sometimes people don't have their facts straight, because they're sincerely mistaken.
Sami wanted Nicole dead because she did not want Nicole tell Brandon she push her and make it sound she tried to kill her and than Victor will destroy her she have even fantasy about it.Sami was in hotel to search dirt on Nicole because Nicole blackmail her to stay away from Brandon with the tape Sami admit there lucas never hit will.but Sami wanting Nicole dead it more she will not saying to anyone she tried to kill her and less with tape even it bouns Nicole died it might mean Victor will stop blackmail her from Nicole behalf to stay away from Brandon.
She didn't want Nicole to tell Brandon that Sami pushed her, and she also didn't want Nicole to reveal why Sami pushed her. Sami got ahold of a photograph, I think from a security camera, of Nicole kissing someone Victor hated while Nicole and he were separated:

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Sami threatened to give the picture to Victor if Nicole revealed her lies about Lucas abusing Will. Nicole shocked Sami by deciding that doing the right thing for Lucas and Brandon was worth risking Victor's wrath. She marched right out to tell Victor the truth about the picture, and to tell him to release the tape proving Lucas innocent. That was the reason they were standing in front of Victor arguing when the hitman tried to kill Victor. Sami pushed Nicole into the line of fire while she dove for safety.
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