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JAMES SCOTT DONE TAPING DAYS!
Topic Started: May 2 2014, 03:21 PM (55,115 Views)
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May 5 2014, 01:15 PM
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May 5 2014, 01:12 PM
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May 5 2014, 12:38 PM
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May 5 2014, 12:34 PM

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It must depend on the board, then, because on several popular boards I was on, people loved her. And when she was fired the outcry on twitter was huge. For BB's Shawn, not so much.
I think the Shawn/Belle fans hated MM. Most J&M fans loved MM.
Well, I'm not a shelle fan and I was a j&m fan.
Well, I did say MOST J&M fans, not all. But even you said you were in the minority for tolerating her on that board you were on, whatever it was. I just know that most of the J&M fans loved MM.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtkIJRZPSw
I agree. It's the chemistry from this time frame (in both the video and the scene pictured in your banner) that sucked me in so completely back in the day. And even throughout all the years of absolutely horrendous writing for this pairing (the Sydnapping, the shooting, Fafe, etc.) I still was drawn to any scenes they shared together - to the point that it pissed me off that I couldn't seem to shake it.

In the end, from an EJami fan perspective I'm happy they are essentially leaving at the same time and hope it bodes well for the end of their story. But I have to admit, as much as it sounds like Ali and James need a break...I could use one, too. It's been exhausting trying to explain to family and friends why I have gotten so caught up in this fictional story. :blush: :lol:
I feel the same way. I find their chemistry so addicting especially from that era and while their chemistry is unwavering, the writing doesn't showcase it properly with the exception of scenes like "take me somewhere Diane won't hear me scream"-plotting-Nick's- death- while- having- sex.

I'm just so glad that I won't have to see EJ be redeemed.
This is true - I only ever kept watching because of Ejami and their blinding chemistry - when they were apart I didnt even watch DOOL and as much I think I will keep watching, I highly doubt it because I am just not that invested in the other characters. I'm one of those fickle fans :P
I only came back to Days in 2009 because I happened to see Ejami in an episode, so I'm torn about whether I will keep watching. If the writing improved a little, I think I could watch as a general viewer. I will NEVER ship another soap couple in this lifetime. I really don't think I will ever see another pairing with the kind of chemistry I saw in EJami.
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Well at least you admit you were in the minority for not liking her version of Belle, lol.
I think she said she was in the minority for tolerating her at all... i.e. everyone else haaaated her. And I was at a board like that as well, not sure if it was the same one. I always liked MM as a dramatic actress and thought her family chemistry was fine, but they wanted her for young adult romance, and it didn't take off. A lot of people block out that the brief Belle/Phillip affair and the Shawn/Phillip brawl in the pub came after the excruciating Shawn/Belle on the run to Tinda Lau story and Phillip's awful custody fight for Claire.
It must depend on the board, then, because on several popular boards I was on, people loved her. And when she was fired the outcry on twitter was huge. For BB's Shawn, not so much.
The board I was on loved her too. There was a lot of support for phelle, too.
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Shawn is a much more important character to Days than Belle, IMO. It has nothing to do with the actors playing the characters. I do want both characters back, along with Philip, and I don't care who is paired with who or if they are all single. I think all three have a place as Leads on this show and should have always been.

I totally agree that MM was miscast as Belle, but I did like her. She didn't have chemistry with either Shawn and had some fire with Philip. She also always looked older than she should to me, but I did enjoy her acting. SHe could have been playing anyone though, it wasn't necessarily Belle to me. Kirsten Storms could be Belle now because she has grown so much and I love her acting, but her Belle was whiny. She's still the definitive Belle to me. I would prefer MM or a recast though.

I would say JKJ is the only actor to play any of these three characters to absolutely OWN the role. I prefer Jason Cook as Shawn over a recast, but I'm not opposed to recasting if he doesn't want to come back.
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A lot of people block out that the brief Belle/Phillip affair and the Shawn/Phillip brawl in the pub
And a lot of people loved it - hence it got a ton of votes for "Top 10 love scenes" on this board, and placed on the top 10. Something no Shawn/Belle love scene managed to do. With either Belle.

I want the triangle back, but even if they don't come back, I'll be grateful that Hogan Sheffer has the balls to write Belle enjoying sex with someone other than Shawn. When Reilly was writing, even when Belle was married to Philip, she spent all her time fantasizing about/daydreaming about Shawn. Philip was a consolation prize and she wasn't in love with him.

I'm glad Sheffer changed the dynamics and had Belle admit she wanted Philip sexually an
d proceed to make love to him willingly, even though she was engaged to Shawn.

This literally has nothing to do with what she said.
Ok, because it was implied that Philip/Belle's sex scene (Martha and Jay) and the triangle with Shawn/Belle/Philip wasn't well received or liked by the audience. And that's not true.

If that wasn't the implication, then ok.
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Well at least you admit you were in the minority for not liking her version of Belle, lol.
I think she said she was in the minority for tolerating her at all... i.e. everyone else haaaated her. And I was at a board like that as well, not sure if it was the same one. I always liked MM as a dramatic actress and thought her family chemistry was fine, but they wanted her for young adult romance, and it didn't take off. A lot of people block out that the brief Belle/Phillip affair and the Shawn/Phillip brawl in the pub came after the excruciating Shawn/Belle on the run to Tinda Lau story and Phillip's awful custody fight for Claire.
It must depend on the board, then, because on several popular boards I was on, people loved her. And when she was fired the outcry on twitter was huge. For BB's Shawn, not so much.
The board I was on loved her too. There was a lot of support for phelle, too.
Yup.
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No. I'm not assuming anything. It was a commentary on "Days past." If days can bring back characters that have been gone as long as those two, Shawn and Belle are nothing. Heck, we can even add Carlu, Vivian, Justin, Adrienne, Steve, and Kayla to that list. At the the last blast crew would be the right focal age. And while they're years away from EJ in a sense, they're actually right at the age EJ and co were when they took over the show. Hopefully they don't try to replace EJ and Sami with people the exact same age. And trust, I understand about not liking/wanting the characters, but the days past comment makes no sense to me at all.
Yes, but what I meant was that in the height of their popularity they were very different characters from Sami and EJ and the times were different altogether. We don't have that kind of "supercouple is the be all end all" type of culture anymore, on any soap really. And I think that's quite oaky, I don't really see much need for that either. If there are some supercouples left they're probably on the backburner and on the older side, such as Doug and Julie on this show. I also don't see them returning to that type of culture anytime soon, either. I don't think it would make sense to bring a couple like Shawn and Belle on, or Philip and whomever. Also, if you say that they don't have to be like what they were back then, then what difference does it make in the first place then? I mean, if they don't have the same characteristics than they did back then, what would be the point of bringing them back, at the same right they could develop other characters. I mean, I for one hated Chloe's "bitchy" streak, especially the way she was the last time she was here last year. That wasn't at all who I thought that character should be, and I certainly would never want that character back. But then again, would I want back the Ghoul Girl Opera Singer? No. I just don't think there's any way to win there.
None of this is even close to what I'm saying so I'm hesitant to respond. Was I even the one that said they didn't have to be like they were before? I mean, I certainly would accept recasts and I don't think their relationship dynamics would have to be the same and since it's been several years u would expect them to have grown up some, but I don't think I actually said that . I agree about that kind of couple writing and that's actually why I'd want them to return. That was what killed them last time IMO, so now that they're not doing that I think the characters might stand a better chance. But I honestly have no idea how you got here from my post.
I don't need to see them brought back to be people who they were back then, and I don't want to see them back acting as different people than they were then. I simply don't want them back, period.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWow, I completely disagree. Belle (Martha's version) is definitely superior. Not only is she the only child of supercouple J&M, but she was in a successful love triangle and popular with more than one leading man.
I liked MM, but I never thought she fit as Belle. I always thought she'd have made a better recast Sami. She wasn't bad. She just wasn't Belle, IMO. However, when she was onscreen, I was a member of a board where I was in the minority for even tolerating her.
Well at least you admit you were in the minority for not liking her version of Belle, lol.

I personally never liked KS version of Belle. She was nothing like how I pictured Marlena's daughter. Neither was Sami, but Sami was supposed to be a villain. Belle as a perky cheerleader? No, just no.

For me, Martha played Belle as intelligent, sophisticated and mature. The direct opposite of KS's version of uber-bubbly, uber-perky, boy-crazy and spoiled cheerleader Belle. I know she and JS were popular during their time, though.

I was just glad when Belle was recast and taken in a new (better) direction with more adult stories. MM brought heft to the role.
No. I was in the minority for tolerating. The rest of the board hated her.

I didn't say I didn't like her, but I do think she was miscast. She was good at what she did, but she just wasn't Belle. I'd happily accept her back. She was fine with her family which is what I care about most anyway, but she didn't really fit with the rest of her age group well which is more important to the show, IMO. I'm not a big KS fan either. I do think she fit better as Belle, though. However, if she had stayed, Belle would probably still be written like a 14 year old.
But, in all honesty, I could never see KS as Belle again. There's just way too much water passed under that bridge.

She fit as the teen princess, but after GH, no.

MM was fine as Belle, while I do agree that I liked her dramatic side the best.
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No. I'm not assuming anything. It was a commentary on "Days past." If days can bring back characters that have been gone as long as those two, Shawn and Belle are nothing. Heck, we can even add Carlu, Vivian, Justin, Adrienne, Steve, and Kayla to that list. At the the last blast crew would be the right focal age. And while they're years away from EJ in a sense, they're actually right at the age EJ and co were when they took over the show. Hopefully they don't try to replace EJ and Sami with people the exact same age. And trust, I understand about not liking/wanting the characters, but the days past comment makes no sense to me at all.
Yes, but what I meant was that in the height of their popularity they were very different characters from Sami and EJ and the times were different altogether. We don't have that kind of "supercouple is the be all end all" type of culture anymore, on any soap really. And I think that's quite oaky, I don't really see much need for that either. If there are some supercouples left they're probably on the backburner and on the older side, such as Doug and Julie on this show. I also don't see them returning to that type of culture anytime soon, either. I don't think it would make sense to bring a couple like Shawn and Belle on, or Philip and whomever. Also, if you say that they don't have to be like what they were back then, then what difference does it make in the first place then? I mean, if they don't have the same characteristics than they did back then, what would be the point of bringing them back, at the same right they could develop other characters. I mean, I for one hated Chloe's "bitchy" streak, especially the way she was the last time she was here last year. That wasn't at all who I thought that character should be, and I certainly would never want that character back. But then again, would I want back the Ghoul Girl Opera Singer? No. I just don't think there's any way to win there.
I could see what you're saying about Shawn and Belle maybe, but what are you talking about with Philip? He is nothing like the character you describe. He was basically a very very much better version of EJ because he was a well-defined character.
No, but I never said that. I know what the show is trying to have me believe about him being ruthless and sinister, but he's not. It's not working and I don't buy it. I could never take Philip seriously or as anything more than a whiny grown up brat with no reason to act the way he did. The point being I would never want him back. I don't even like his name.
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It must depend on the board, then, because on several popular boards I was on, people loved her. And when she was fired the outcry on twitter was huge. For BB's Shawn, not so much.
The board I was on loved her too. There was a lot of support for phelle, too.
Yup.
Seriously. No one is denying that there were people who liked her.
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Yes, but what I meant was that in the height of their popularity they were very different characters from Sami and EJ and the times were different altogether. We don't have that kind of "supercouple is the be all end all" type of culture anymore, on any soap really. And I think that's quite oaky, I don't really see much need for that either. If there are some supercouples left they're probably on the backburner and on the older side, such as Doug and Julie on this show. I also don't see them returning to that type of culture anytime soon, either. I don't think it would make sense to bring a couple like Shawn and Belle on, or Philip and whomever. Also, if you say that they don't have to be like what they were back then, then what difference does it make in the first place then? I mean, if they don't have the same characteristics than they did back then, what would be the point of bringing them back, at the same right they could develop other characters. I mean, I for one hated Chloe's "bitchy" streak, especially the way she was the last time she was here last year. That wasn't at all who I thought that character should be, and I certainly would never want that character back. But then again, would I want back the Ghoul Girl Opera Singer? No. I just don't think there's any way to win there.
None of this is even close to what I'm saying so I'm hesitant to respond. Was I even the one that said they didn't have to be like they were before? I mean, I certainly would accept recasts and I don't think their relationship dynamics would have to be the same and since it's been several years u would expect them to have grown up some, but I don't think I actually said that . I agree about that kind of couple writing and that's actually why I'd want them to return. That was what killed them last time IMO, so now that they're not doing that I think the characters might stand a better chance. But I honestly have no idea how you got here from my post.
I don't need to see them brought back to be people who they were back then, and I don't want to see them back acting as different people than they were then. I simply don't want them back, period.
Ok. I don't really know where this different people/same people thing is coming from, but like I said I just took issue with the stuff about days past. They're not my favorite characters, so while I do think they should bring them back, I totally understand not wanting them.
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I think the Shawn/Belle fans hated MM. Most J&M fans loved MM.
Well, I'm not a shelle fan and I was a j&m fan.
Well, I did say MOST J&M fans, not all. But even you said you were in the minority for tolerating her on that board you were on, whatever it was. I just know that most of the J&M fans loved MM.
Again. Minority for tolerating her. Everyone else hated her.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtkIJRZPSw
I feel the same way. I find their chemistry so addicting especially from that era and while their chemistry is unwavering, the writing doesn't showcase it properly with the exception of scenes like "take me somewhere Diane won't hear me scream"-plotting-Nick's- death- while- having- sex.

I'm just so glad that I won't have to see EJ be redeemed.
This is true - I only ever kept watching because of Ejami and their blinding chemistry - when they were apart I didnt even watch DOOL and as much I think I will keep watching, I highly doubt it because I am just not that invested in the other characters. I'm one of those fickle fans :P
I only came back to Days in 2009 because I happened to see Ejami in an episode, so I'm torn about whether I will keep watching. If the writing improved a little, I think I could watch as a general viewer. I will NEVER ship another soap couple in this lifetime. I really don't think I will ever see another pairing with the kind of chemistry I saw in EJami.
Ditto and ditto on your last two sentences. Their chemistry (especially circa 2007) is the best I've seen on TV. And seriously. I am done with shipping. That's why James' announcement brought such a sense of relief to me. With both JS and AS gone, I am FREE! I can just sit back and enjoy the show as a general viewer again, that's IF the writing can even hold my interest and right now that's a mighty big 'IF'. My viewership after their departure is not looking very promising if things are like they are now. I hope for some serious changes but if not, oh well.

I stay away from spoilers and message boards for the other two shows I'm hooked on right now (Scandal and Game of Thrones). I have no intention of crossing over again. :P
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtkIJRZPSw
This is true - I only ever kept watching because of Ejami and their blinding chemistry - when they were apart I didnt even watch DOOL and as much I think I will keep watching, I highly doubt it because I am just not that invested in the other characters. I'm one of those fickle fans :P
I only came back to Days in 2009 because I happened to see Ejami in an episode, so I'm torn about whether I will keep watching. If the writing improved a little, I think I could watch as a general viewer. I will NEVER ship another soap couple in this lifetime. I really don't think I will ever see another pairing with the kind of chemistry I saw in EJami.
Ditto and ditto on your last two sentences. Their chemistry (especially circa 2007) is the best I've seen on TV. And seriously. I am done with shipping. That's why James' announcement brought such a sense of relief to me. With both JS and AS gone, I am FREE! I can just sit back and enjoy the show as a general viewer again, that's IF the writing can even hold my interest and right now that's a mighty big 'IF'. My viewership after their departure is not looking very promising if things are like they are now. I hope for some serious changes but if not, oh well.

I stay away from spoilers and message boards for the other two shows I'm hooked on right now (Scandal and Game of Thrones). I have no intention of crossing over again. :P
i'm not Ejami, but I so agree with this. Although I like some couples, none of it is hardcore they "have to be together" anymore. Shipping like that is exhausting and painful. JER burned me bad on Shuis.
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None of this is even close to what I'm saying so I'm hesitant to respond. Was I even the one that said they didn't have to be like they were before? I mean, I certainly would accept recasts and I don't think their relationship dynamics would have to be the same and since it's been several years u would expect them to have grown up some, but I don't think I actually said that . I agree about that kind of couple writing and that's actually why I'd want them to return. That was what killed them last time IMO, so now that they're not doing that I think the characters might stand a better chance. But I honestly have no idea how you got here from my post.
I don't need to see them brought back to be people who they were back then, and I don't want to see them back acting as different people than they were then. I simply don't want them back, period.
Ok. I don't really know where this different people/same people thing is coming from, but like I said I just took issue with the stuff about days past. They're not my favorite characters, so while I do think they should bring them back, I totally understand not wanting them.
I might have mistyped. I don't necessarily mean that bringing back each and everyone of past Days characters would be a bad idea, even though I usually do think that about most returning characters. (And actually as a curiosity I initially wasn't that interested in Kristen's return either. The biggest reason I tuned in because I was intrigued and because of Eileen Davidson. But it was never about having a past or "familiar" character back. It was about the specific character of her that intrigued me.) One of the things I was saying was that even though those kinds of characters who return could be "re-invented" instead of having them exactly like they were back when, I still wouldn't want them back. It's a lose lose for me.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtkIJRZPSw
I only came back to Days in 2009 because I happened to see Ejami in an episode, so I'm torn about whether I will keep watching. If the writing improved a little, I think I could watch as a general viewer. I will NEVER ship another soap couple in this lifetime. I really don't think I will ever see another pairing with the kind of chemistry I saw in EJami.
Ditto and ditto on your last two sentences. Their chemistry (especially circa 2007) is the best I've seen on TV. And seriously. I am done with shipping. That's why James' announcement brought such a sense of relief to me. With both JS and AS gone, I am FREE! I can just sit back and enjoy the show as a general viewer again, that's IF the writing can even hold my interest and right now that's a mighty big 'IF'. My viewership after their departure is not looking very promising if things are like they are now. I hope for some serious changes but if not, oh well.

I stay away from spoilers and message boards for the other two shows I'm hooked on right now (Scandal and Game of Thrones). I have no intention of crossing over again. :P
i'm not Ejami, but I so agree with this. Although I like some couples, none of it is hardcore they "have to be together" anymore. Shipping like that is exhausting and painful. JER burned me bad on Shuis.
I didn't ship Shuis (I liked them) but their ending was such a WTF.


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LOL I had forgotten about James telling his girlfriend to stop watching when Ejami got together.

Somehow I don't think AS leaving has anything to do with how handsy EJ can be.
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LOL I had forgotten about James telling his girlfriend to stop watching when Ejami got together.

Somehow I don't think AS leaving has anything to do with how handsy EJ can be.
Wouldn't it be kinda weird for her to leave now when there's less touching and sexing. If she was going to leave, she would've left when the stuff she's supposed to be upset about was happening.
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Well with Sami and EJ gone I feel I can enjoy the show again too....I couldn't watch the show with them on or enjoy discussing the show because I had such strong feelings against them and there were such suffocating feelings good or bad surrounding them that it became exhausting trying to be a general fan of the show whilst also disliking them so profoundly. They've dominated the show for too long as have reactions for and against them, and I am super guilty of fueling that response from my end. I hated everything they wound up engendering and it depressed me to my core and made me feel like a petty, terrible person at times. So yeah, good riddance....it long stopped being worth caring so much about my happy soap ending, and it long stopped being worth allowing myself to be hopeful and then get hurt. So whatever happens, come November they are both gone and I am free too. And hopefully I won't ever have to think about them together again or their chemistry or their lack of chemistry or EJ did this many things or Sami did that many things or they are alike so it's ok or no it's never ok or they are so special or no they are just a normal inorganic entity subject to writing changes the way any fictional creation might be, or any related myriad and maddening topics again. It's SUCH an incredible weight lifted and makes me happy.
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