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Spoilers for the week of May 19th; *updated 5/11*
Topic Started: May 6 2014, 03:29 PM (35,266 Views)
S loves EJ


marie1969
May 10 2014, 10:33 AM
Sparrow
May 10 2014, 05:53 AM
It seems like there would be more story if Nicole and Eric were interacting more with Sami and EJ fer crying out loud. Sami and Nicole hate each other, Nicole is marrying Sami's twin, was married to her fiance and almost (should have) had his baby. Sami should be scheming to break them up. She should have found be blackmailing Nicole with the found evidence to break up with Eric. She should be Kate to Eric's Lucas. Instead the show insists on getting Fetch all over them since Nicole and EJ aren't allowed to be in any scenes together.
I for one have no interest in seeing Sami involved in that Ericole mess on her final months in Salem. It is bad enough she is constantly propping Wilson, but enough is enough. Sami has her hands full with the kids (I want more ejamily please) murder, the reveal and the upcoming wedding. No thanks Sami has more than enough story. Ericole can have stories with Dannifer so I can fast forward them all together.

I think Sami/Nicole fights can be good if the dialogue is well written and I donīt mind ejole scenes either especially when they are being snarky with one an other. I think they have more chemistry opposite each other than as a couple even if I think they might have potentiell as a couple too. Still if the writers wasnīt going in Ejole direction maybe itīs better not to have them in scenes together than to give people false hope or just crumbs.
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I want Nicole to have a baby because she would finally have someone who loves her unconditionally. She would have that love that she has been craving all her life. I'd like to think that this would help her "heal" from her abusive past, giving her a better sense of self-worth. This could be what made her stop making bad choices. Obviously not overnight, but gradually. I don't think any man's love will be able to do that for Nicole.
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I also agree that they threw years of story out the window by not allowing Nicole to have EJ's baby. Ejole didn't have to get back together, there would be many other storyline possibilities. Instead they decided to cut all ties between the characters. Not very soapy, if you ask me.

Other characters interact with their exes on a monthly basis, but EJ & Nicole haven't had a scene together since September 2013 (yes, I checked). I'm not gonna suddenly think they're reuniting or see it as "false hope" if they share a few scenes every month. I'd enjoy the scenes for what they were. Why waste the chemistry between the actors, not to mention the years of story they shared?
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throughthehourglass
May 10 2014, 12:44 PM
I also agree that they threw years of story out the window by not allowing Nicole to have EJ's baby. Ejole didn't have to get back together, there would be many other storyline possibilities. Instead they decided to cut all ties between the characters. Not very soapy, if you ask me.

Other characters interact with their exes on a monthly basis, but EJ & Nicole haven't had a scene together since September 2013 (yes, I checked). I'm not gonna suddenly think they're reuniting or see it as "false hope" if they share a few scenes every month. I'd enjoy the scenes for what they were. Why waste the chemistry between the actors, not to mention the years of story they shared?
Obviously I"m biased about the Ej's baby but I think a fertility storyline would be really good for Nicole. I've known a few people who have gone through it and it's really emotionally trying . It would be a good story for her to tell. jmo
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Yoryla
May 8 2014, 03:50 AM
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May 7 2014, 08:18 PM
nananana7
May 7 2014, 08:00 PM
Australia TV schedule listings

Wednesday 21 May 2014

Nicole has a stunning proposition for Eric. Sami explodes when she learns Eric plans to marry Nicole. Gabi has an unexpected request regarding Arianna's custody agreement; and Kate accuses Lucas of shooting Nick!

http://www.foxtel.com.au/whats-on/tv-guide/default.htm#/e38b4943/537d72bc
For USA/Canada air date Wed May 21st -- (Australia air date Thurs May 22nd)
Please let that be literal.

But I Guess I'll have to wait another 6 months.
I kinda like the idea of these people exploding lol. I guess the spoiler about Kate and Jordan put those thoughts in my mind which I can't seem to get away from now :D
Kate accusing Lucas is a little bit interesting does she know or does she only presume Lucas took her gun.


What is the unexpected custody request of Gabi regarding Ari's custody agreement... Will is never going to back down from wanting joint custody, Sonny going to stick behind Will on that so the request has to come from someone else ...
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BeeBee


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May 10 2014, 05:42 AM
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May 9 2014, 09:55 PM
And AZ wants it for Nicole too.

http://s237.photobucket.com/user/janellehanna/media/Greg/DocScan5.jpg.html

Article from Australian Soap Magazine.
Not to get off the subject here, but does anyone else get the feeling that AS is only leaving so that she can have a big return down the road with much fanfare and ado? Every interview with everyone on the show has mentioned that her exit is being written in such a way that she can return whenever she wants. I give her a year, tops.
I don't thinks its the reason she is leaving but I do believe she is leaving now to test the waters elsewhere because she ,like JS,is not getting any younger.Unless one is a character actor,women tend to have a shorter shelf life than men in the roles they are offered,and she knows she can come back so she is not really taking a risk.I see her coming back too because she is not talented enough to work movies,prime time series,or host a talk show unless she is one of many like the View .
Edited by BeeBee, May 10 2014, 02:57 PM.
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Trying to figure out why Kate would think Lucas would take her gun. If she still carries it in her purse, lots of people could have taken it.
Edited by Mouse Mom, May 10 2014, 03:54 PM.
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I have to say, I had been two weeks behind on Days episodes, I stopped watching on the 4/25 episode where Liam showed up at the cabin, and only now today picked up on the 4/28 episode forward to see the entire thing happening on Smith Island. But omg, I really have to say man this storyline was not only in vain, it made everyone look even worse than before. I mean, since Liam is dead and didn't get to tell anyone about Nicole, it makes Nicole look even worse because now it seems like she's glad he's dead, and everyone can blame her for that aswell. And all this stuff about her "checking his pulse" etc, and grabbing the evidence just makes it seem like all she cares about is saving her own behind, never mind that a person just died. I mean, it's a time like that that should make everyone see the light and confess to their misdeeds. But no, not Nicole. And not only does it make her look evil and even harder to root for than before, it's going all the more bigger of a blow when everyone finds out. She's gonna go down so hard. And as for her actions she should go down hard, no question. But still. I have to wonder about this writing for her. I mean, Gahd.

And another note the same goes for Theresa. Now, I don't particularly like the character, but I was sure they would at least figure out and/or have her reveal the key thing. But no, they're still keeping that a secret aswell. Which means that is going to blow up someday too and will probably she'll probably have even more secrets piled up by that time to protect *this* secret so that she aswell can fall down as high as she possibly can. Now, as I said, I don't care for this character so for me it doesn't really make it any less uncomfortable but I'm mostly just surprised. I mean, I was sure that since it's sweeps and all, a time for when secrets and things usually come out, they would at least have some of these things revealed already. Oh well.
Edited by Yoryla, May 10 2014, 04:15 PM.
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freedom
May 10 2014, 11:11 AM
ladyofthelake
May 10 2014, 11:04 AM
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May 10 2014, 11:01 AM
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May 10 2014, 10:48 AM

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No I'm talking about some people acting like the problem with Nicole is that she is hanging around Dan and Jennifer. And if she were out of their orbit, things would be better. No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't matter if Nicole were in this story with Brady, Sami, EJ, etc. it's still the same: Nicole making bad choices and needing to own up to her responsility for it. That's on Nicole.

Instead of griping about her being with Fetch, you should gripe that Nicole has turned back into a desperate, lying person. And that's not because she's in Fetch's orbit. It's because she pulls shit like this.
Actually, people HAVE griped about this very thing.Case in point: The whole document shredding incident.
Not as much as people wanting to blame her for being in Dan and Jennifer's orbit. I rarely see Nicole fans blaming Nicole for Nicole's choices and actions. What Nicole did was a pretty basic (and crappy) move for Nicole. It wouldn't matter whose orbit she was in. Nicole's choices are not Dan and Jen's fault, and being out of their orbit wouldn't fix the problem. The problem is Nicole.
After she shredded the documents that cleared Eric, I don't see her love for him. She did something horrible to the man she's supposed to love and she started attacking Marlena and calling her names, as though Marlena made her shred the documents. Eric defended her and practically chose her over his whole family. It's hard to see how they can recover from this betrayal.
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waterlilly
May 10 2014, 11:00 AM
Or a special needs adoption.
You know I couldn't think of a better person who could be suited for a story like this. It could be an amazing success as a groundbreaking storyline of sorts.

And at the same time, they would never touch a topic like this, nor a foreign adoption. Most likely they would have her buy a baby on the black market only to have it be someone else's baby and for her to have to return it after being a mommy for a year or so.
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ladyofthelake
May 10 2014, 11:04 AM
freedom
May 10 2014, 11:01 AM
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May 10 2014, 10:48 AM
freedom
May 10 2014, 10:39 AM
Eh, it doesn't matter who Nicole is interacting with, the problem is Nicole herself and the crappy choices she makes. It's her own fault and responsibility.
We've seen other characters make crappy choices too, but they're allowed to have children and happiness. Why not Nicole?
No I'm talking about some people acting like the problem with Nicole is that she is hanging around Dan and Jennifer. And if she were out of their orbit, things would be better. No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't matter if Nicole were in this story with Brady, Sami, EJ, etc. it's still the same: Nicole making bad choices and needing to own up to her responsility for it. That's on Nicole.

Instead of griping about her being with Fetch, you should gripe that Nicole has turned back into a desperate, lying person. And that's not because she's in Fetch's orbit. It's because she pulls shit like this.
Actually, people HAVE griped about this very thing.Case in point: The whole document shredding incident.
Yea lol, I'd pretty much say the Fetch interaction is just icing on the cake... It's like they're trying every single trick in the book to make her look more unlikeable and unrootable...
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throughthehourglass
May 10 2014, 12:44 PM
I also agree that they threw years of story out the window by not allowing Nicole to have EJ's baby. Ejole didn't have to get back together, there would be many other storyline possibilities. Instead they decided to cut all ties between the characters. Not very soapy, if you ask me.

Other characters interact with their exes on a monthly basis, but EJ & Nicole haven't had a scene together since September 2013 (yes, I checked). I'm not gonna suddenly think they're reuniting or see it as "false hope" if they share a few scenes every month. I'd enjoy the scenes for what they were. Why waste the chemistry between the actors, not to mention the years of story they shared?
Yeap, I remember those scenes, they were at the club. And also, before that they had scenes in July 2013 at the school opening. So yea that's pretty much it.
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May 10 2014, 04:00 PM
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May 10 2014, 11:11 AM
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May 10 2014, 11:04 AM
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May 10 2014, 11:01 AM

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Actually, people HAVE griped about this very thing.Case in point: The whole document shredding incident.
Not as much as people wanting to blame her for being in Dan and Jennifer's orbit. I rarely see Nicole fans blaming Nicole for Nicole's choices and actions. What Nicole did was a pretty basic (and crappy) move for Nicole. It wouldn't matter whose orbit she was in. Nicole's choices are not Dan and Jen's fault, and being out of their orbit wouldn't fix the problem. The problem is Nicole.
After she shredded the documents that cleared Eric, I don't see her love for him. She did something horrible to the man she's supposed to love and she started attacking Marlena and calling her names, as though Marlena made her shred the documents. Eric defended her and practically chose her over his whole family. It's hard to see how they can recover from this betrayal.
EXACTLY. And that is why I am so freaking annoyed. They took what was building up into a classically beautiful soapy romance and then fetched all over it. There were a million other directions they could have taken it if they wanted angst that would have not only made more sense but would have still left us rooting for Eric and Nicole in the end. All to prove what a magically superior couple they are, I suppose.
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And even had they still gone the route of having Nicole betray Eric so unforgivably, it still would have been a million times more enjoyable to watch if it had involved ANYONE other than Daniel finding out about it.
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May 10 2014, 04:19 PM
And even had they still gone the route of having Nicole betray Eric so unforgivably, it still would have been a million times more enjoyable to watch if it had involved ANYONE other than Daniel finding out about it.
I wish it had of been brady...... or ciara.
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I suppose the one good thing that could be said about the Smith Island events is that the end part of it, the sweeps part, was really more about Nicole and Eric than it was about Fetch...
Edited by Yoryla, May 10 2014, 04:54 PM.
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But still, my God, on the 5/1 episode, Nicole is in the hospital waiting for her x-ray and Eric is all worried about her and loving her and as soon as he leaves the room all she can think about is how to get the original photo and smashing that phone with the chair............. what is she the devil incarnate...... major side-eye at the writing.........
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Yoryla
May 10 2014, 04:56 PM
But still, my God, on the 5/1 episode, Nicole is in the hospital waiting for her x-ray and Eric is all worried about her and loving her and as soon as he leaves the room all she can think about is how to get the original photo and smashing that phone with the chair............. what is she the devil incarnate...... major side-eye at the writing.........
Nicole was always WAY more like Kristen than she wants to admit. She took a brief reprieve from it last year, but she's ALWAYS been more villainous than heroine. Forgetting kidnapping Sami's daugter, this is the same woman who put a hit out on Marlena. And yeah, she's become very unlikeable lately.

Of course, I never liked her pairing with Eric in the first place, so I'm fine with it being over. I like Nicole as the bad girl. Now just give her a martini and a man as devious as her, and we're in business.
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May 10 2014, 04:00 PM
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May 10 2014, 11:11 AM
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May 10 2014, 11:04 AM
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May 10 2014, 11:01 AM

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Actually, people HAVE griped about this very thing.Case in point: The whole document shredding incident.
Not as much as people wanting to blame her for being in Dan and Jennifer's orbit. I rarely see Nicole fans blaming Nicole for Nicole's choices and actions. What Nicole did was a pretty basic (and crappy) move for Nicole. It wouldn't matter whose orbit she was in. Nicole's choices are not Dan and Jen's fault, and being out of their orbit wouldn't fix the problem. The problem is Nicole.
After she shredded the documents that cleared Eric, I don't see her love for him. She did something horrible to the man she's supposed to love and she started attacking Marlena and calling her names, as though Marlena made her shred the documents. Eric defended her and practically chose her over his whole family. It's hard to see how they can recover from this betrayal.
It's been done before.
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freedom
May 10 2014, 05:24 PM
Yoryla
May 10 2014, 04:56 PM
But still, my God, on the 5/1 episode, Nicole is in the hospital waiting for her x-ray and Eric is all worried about her and loving her and as soon as he leaves the room all she can think about is how to get the original photo and smashing that phone with the chair............. what is she the devil incarnate...... major side-eye at the writing.........
Nicole was always WAY more like Kristen than she wants to admit. She took a brief reprieve from it last year, but she's ALWAYS been more villainous than heroine. Forgetting kidnapping Sami's daugter, this is the same woman who put a hit out on Marlena. And yeah, she's become very unlikeable lately.

Of course, I never liked her pairing with Eric in the first place, so I'm fine with it being over. I like Nicole as the bad girl. Now just give her a martini and a man as devious as her, and we're in business.
Yeah I know what you mean. I also don't really mind if characters are written to be bad or villains, but it's the hypocrisy is that isn't going to sit well with me. That's the most when I'm at my dislikement for certain characters, when they get up on their high horses and pretend they're better than someone else. That I can't accept.

(But I'm trying to avoid turning this to be about Kristen lol, because I'm trying to defend the awful writing for Nicole and I don't want that thwarted by anything Kristen vs. Nicole because then I can't be on Team Nicole anymore lol)
Edited by Yoryla, May 10 2014, 05:41 PM.
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