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Spoilers for the week of May 19th; *updated 5/11*
Topic Started: May 6 2014, 03:29 PM (35,263 Views)
lazydazes
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Ok, she attempted to kill him for self-serving reasons. I'm just tired of some trying to shift the blame away from Nicole and onto Daniel and Jennifer. They aren't th problem. If this story was Brady/Theresa/Eric/Nicole, instead of Fetch, it would still be Nicole's problem and responsibility. Removing Fetch doesn't change Nicole's character regression.



And if she had, would that have really mattered considering all the murder-for hire and gunslinging Salemites that have been running around the last week? EJ/Sami ordered a hit, Sonny's wielding a gun, etc. so I think that Nicole gets a pass on her misfired shot at Liam. Heck yeah, Nicole was wrong for shredding the papers. But, considering all the past crimes/shitastic things that these other couples have done to each other, I think it's minor when compared to violent acts/crimes that some have committed against each other; but yet, they're still together. Nicole is damned if she does and damned if she's don't. If she tries to walk the straight and narrow, she's "boring"; but she shreds the papers being a 'bad girl' and it's 'character regression'. How exactly is she supposed to act or what is the middle ground for her to stand on? She can't win for losing.
And count me as one sick to death of Dannifer been ass-shucked all up in Ericole's story. The story really hasn't been about Ericole since the basement scenes. There have been bits and pieces of scenes in these last weeks that have actually focused on Ericole. But, mainly all they've done is play supporting players while the whole town falls at the alter and worships the poor saintly Dr. Jonas whose been falsely accused. I don't give a flying f***k about Daniel, Jennifer, Dannifer...but what I do care about is the fact that they're monopolizing too much of Ericole's storyline.
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lazydazes
May 11 2014, 08:56 PM
Nicole is damned if she does and damned if she's don't. If she tries to walk the straight and narrow, she's "boring"; but she shreds the papers being a 'bad girl' and it's 'character regression'. How exactly is she supposed to act or what is the middle ground for her to stand on? She can't win for losing.
This extremely frustrating for me, too. Why can't Nicole be the imperfect yet dynamic, loving yet nuanced person she is?
Edited by nananana7, May 11 2014, 09:18 PM.
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freedom
May 11 2014, 08:43 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 06:15 PM
nananana7
May 11 2014, 06:01 PM
Australia TV schedule listings

Friday 23 May 2014

Nicole urges Eric to agree to her plan. Hope corners Lucas with damning evidence, and he reluctantly makes a confession about the night Nick was shot. Sami blasts Kate for allowing Stefano back into her life.

http://www.foxtel.com.au/whats-on/tv-guide/default.htm#/e38b49bb/5382b8bc
For USA/Canada air date Fri May 23rd -- (Australia air date Mon May 26th)
Sami blasts Kate?????!!!!!!!!
Why wouldn't Sami blast Kate? She's getting back with Stefano, for crying out loud.
Nick death bring some together and messes with out bonds
Sami & Kate freimies status I think is effect by the splitting bond
I think that
Will & Sonny
Abby & Ben are the ones who come together over the situation with Nick
I think Gabi, bond doesn't have a good effect with Nick death between her self and Will or herself & Sonny (it would feed into the fact that a custody agreement that favors Gabi is still heading to court)

I think that EJ & Sami might be heading toward some more discord based off the promo.
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nananana7
May 8 2014, 10:26 PM
Australia TV schedule listings
Thursday 22 May 2014
A desperate Nicole comes up with an outrageous lie to keep the truth from Eric. EJ questions Kate's feelings for Stefano; and Abigail is horrified by EJ's admission. Jordan and Ben worry about their past catching up to them.
http://www.foxtel.com.au/whats-on/tv-guide/default.htm#/e38b4964/537ec43c
For USA/Canada air date Thurs May 22nd -- (Australia air date Fri May 23rd)

The Jordan and Ben spoiler seems old
"Jordan and Ben worry about their past catching up to them."
but ...
We get NuBen -- Robert Scott Wilson debuts on May 22nd.
http://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2014/05/robert-scott-wilsons-days-debut-revealed
Edited by nananana7, May 11 2014, 09:38 PM.
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Sparrow


So if Kate is getting back together with Stefano, it might seem to some as if he perhaps has something on her. Like maybe... she's protecting someone. Isn't that how he won her heart the first time? Unless there have been scenes leading up to this that I have missed showing Kate warming up to him all on her own.

I'm starting to think Lucas shot Nick. It's stupid and makes no sense, so yeah. Definitely Lucas.
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nananana7
May 11 2014, 06:01 PM
Friday 23 May 2014
Nicole urges Eric to agree to her plan. Hope corners Lucas with damning evidence, and he reluctantly makes a confession about the night Nick was shot. Sami blasts Kate for allowing Stefano back into her life.
Ericole: I don't even want to know.

Hope/Lucas: interesting... I'm guessing that Lucas' confession has something to do with him protecting someone else.

Kami: Seriously?! Sami doesn't have even a single toe to stand on when it comes to Stefano. She's LIVING IN HIS HOUSE (& planning to marry his son)! Who is she to bitch at Kate for letting him back into her life?
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The SOD May Sweeps Preview mentioned something about Ericole leaving town. I wonder how Nicole is going to try to convince Eric to leave, and I'm even MORE curious about who or what stops them.
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lazydazes
May 11 2014, 08:56 PM
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Ok, she attempted to kill him for self-serving reasons. I'm just tired of some trying to shift the blame away from Nicole and onto Daniel and Jennifer. They aren't th problem. If this story was Brady/Theresa/Eric/Nicole, instead of Fetch, it would still be Nicole's problem and responsibility. Removing Fetch doesn't change Nicole's character regression.



And if she had, would that have really mattered considering all the murder-for hire and gunslinging Salemites that have been running around the last week? EJ/Sami ordered a hit, Sonny's wielding a gun, etc. so I think that Nicole gets a pass on her misfired shot at Liam. Heck yeah, Nicole was wrong for shredding the papers. But, considering all the past crimes/shitastic things that these other couples have done to each other, I think it's minor when compared to violent acts/crimes that some have committed against each other; but yet, they're still together. Nicole is damned if she does and damned if she's don't. If she tries to walk the straight and narrow, she's "boring"; but she shreds the papers being a 'bad girl' and it's 'character regression'. How exactly is she supposed to act or what is the middle ground for her to stand on? She can't win for losing.
And count me as one sick to death of Dannifer been ass-shucked all up in Ericole's story. The story really hasn't been about Ericole since the basement scenes. There have been bits and pieces of scenes in these last weeks that have actually focused on Ericole. But, mainly all they've done is play supporting players while the whole town falls at the alter and worships the poor saintly Dr. Jonas whose been falsely accused. I don't give a flying f***k about Daniel, Jennifer, Dannifer...but what I do care about is the fact that they're monopolizing too much of Ericole's storyline.
People have been forgiven for a lot worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enoH7nsYNck

It's not like Eric's facing the death penalty.
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atleast Nicole is including Eric in her plan
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freedom
May 11 2014, 08:43 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 06:15 PM
nananana7
May 11 2014, 06:01 PM
Australia TV schedule listings

Friday 23 May 2014

Nicole urges Eric to agree to her plan. Hope corners Lucas with damning evidence, and he reluctantly makes a confession about the night Nick was shot. Sami blasts Kate for allowing Stefano back into her life.

http://www.foxtel.com.au/whats-on/tv-guide/default.htm#/e38b49bb/5382b8bc
For USA/Canada air date Fri May 23rd -- (Australia air date Mon May 26th)
Sami blasts Kate?????!!!!!!!!
Why wouldn't Sami blast Kate? She's getting back with Stefano, for crying out loud.
Who is Sami to blast anyone for getting back with someone.Nick has not treated Gabi as badly as EJ has treated Sami yet Sami is back with EJ.Stefano has not treated Kate as badly as EJ has treated Sami.If Sami wants to get back with EJ that is her decision but she is the last person to lecture anyone about getting together with someone "unworthy" of being given another chance after all the crap she and EJ have done to each other.
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BeeBee
May 11 2014, 10:19 PM
freedom
May 11 2014, 08:43 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 06:15 PM
nananana7
May 11 2014, 06:01 PM
Australia TV schedule listings

Friday 23 May 2014

Nicole urges Eric to agree to her plan. Hope corners Lucas with damning evidence, and he reluctantly makes a confession about the night Nick was shot. Sami blasts Kate for allowing Stefano back into her life.

http://www.foxtel.com.au/whats-on/tv-guide/default.htm#/e38b49bb/5382b8bc
For USA/Canada air date Fri May 23rd -- (Australia air date Mon May 26th)
Sami blasts Kate?????!!!!!!!!
Why wouldn't Sami blast Kate? She's getting back with Stefano, for crying out loud.
Who is Sami to blast anyone for getting back with someone.Nick has not treated Gabi as badly as EJ has treated Sami yet Sami is back with EJ.Stefano has not treated Kate as badly as EJ has treated Sami.If Sami wants to get back with EJ that is her decision but she is the last person to lecture anyone about getting together with someone "unworthy" of being given another chance after all the crap she and EJ have done to each other.
Not to mention the fact that Sami telling Kate that Stefano is a bad man, can hurt her, etc is rather hypocritical of her considering she's currently living in his mansion and is about a month or so away from marrying his son. If he's so dangerous (or whatever "why you can't let him back in your life" argument point Sami uses), why is she letting her kids run around the house he lives in? Why is she living in that house?
If Lucas wants to blast Kate for allowing Stefano back into her life, THAT i could fully understand.
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May 11 2014, 10:19 PM
freedom
May 11 2014, 08:43 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 06:15 PM
nananana7
May 11 2014, 06:01 PM
Australia TV schedule listings

Friday 23 May 2014

Nicole urges Eric to agree to her plan. Hope corners Lucas with damning evidence, and he reluctantly makes a confession about the night Nick was shot. Sami blasts Kate for allowing Stefano back into her life.

http://www.foxtel.com.au/whats-on/tv-guide/default.htm#/e38b49bb/5382b8bc
For USA/Canada air date Fri May 23rd -- (Australia air date Mon May 26th)
Sami blasts Kate?????!!!!!!!!
Why wouldn't Sami blast Kate? She's getting back with Stefano, for crying out loud.
Who is Sami to blast anyone for getting back with someone.Nick has not treated Gabi as badly as EJ has treated Sami yet Sami is back with EJ.Stefano has not treated Kate as badly as EJ has treated Sami.If Sami wants to get back with EJ that is her decision but she is the last person to lecture anyone about getting together with someone "unworthy" of being given another chance after all the crap she and EJ have done to each other.
I hate Ejami, but EJ is not as bad as Stefano.

I agree, though, they don't need to have Sami blasting anyone. She has no moral authority. They need to let Marlena do it.
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freedom


Dear TPTB: Because Sami has pulled her own shit over the years, he comes off as a self-righteous hypocrite with NO moral authority. I agree these people need to be "blasted" (i.e. Kate, Gabi, Nick, Nicole), but they need to be confronted by someone who has moral authority. That person would be Marlena.
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lysie


I'm hoping Sami's obvious hypocrisy is the point...
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freedom
May 11 2014, 10:25 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 10:19 PM
freedom
May 11 2014, 08:43 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 06:15 PM
Why wouldn't Sami blast Kate? She's getting back with Stefano, for crying out loud.
Who is Sami to blast anyone for getting back with someone.Nick has not treated Gabi as badly as EJ has treated Sami yet Sami is back with EJ.Stefano has not treated Kate as badly as EJ has treated Sami.If Sami wants to get back with EJ that is her decision but she is the last person to lecture anyone about getting together with someone "unworthy" of being given another chance after all the crap she and EJ have done to each other.
I hate Ejami, but EJ is not as bad as Stefano.

I agree, though, they don't need to have Sami blasting anyone. She has no moral authority. They need to let Marlena do it.
I agree with you and Supergirl.I can accept Lucas blasting Kate for getting back with Stefano since they lost their company and jobs after the Ian fiasco.I can even accept Marlena warning,not blasting,Kate based on their past friendship,and shared family connection though Will,Allie,and little Ari.Given her long history of bad decisions,its just difficult for me to accept Sami giving relationship advice to anyone other than Will.I only accept her giving him advice because she is his mother although he would do well to give any advice from her a lot of thought before following it.
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freedom
May 11 2014, 10:25 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 10:19 PM
freedom
May 11 2014, 08:43 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 06:15 PM
Why wouldn't Sami blast Kate? She's getting back with Stefano, for crying out loud.
Who is Sami to blast anyone for getting back with someone.Nick has not treated Gabi as badly as EJ has treated Sami yet Sami is back with EJ.Stefano has not treated Kate as badly as EJ has treated Sami.If Sami wants to get back with EJ that is her decision but she is the last person to lecture anyone about getting together with someone "unworthy" of being given another chance after all the crap she and EJ have done to each other.
I hate Ejami, but EJ is not as bad as Stefano.

I agree, though, they don't need to have Sami blasting anyone. She has no moral authority. They need to let Marlena do it.
EJ USED to be as bad as Stefano. And then TPTB turned EJ into Everett (or some other "good guy" version). What's the worst thing EJ's done in the last 18 months? Hired a hitman to kill Nick? Please! EJ is nothing now compared to what he used to be when he started. He used to cause all sorts of shit & hell. Now he's more concerned about legal corporate affairs, his wedding to Sami, and helping Sami's kids with homework. lol.
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lysie
May 11 2014, 10:33 PM
I'm hoping Sami's obvious hypocrisy is the point...
Especially considering Sami left Allie to search out Stefano for help with her science project while Sami scampered off to deal with a hitman issue.
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May 11 2014, 10:44 PM
lysie
May 11 2014, 10:33 PM
I'm hoping Sami's obvious hypocrisy is the point...
Especially considering Sami left Allie to search out Stefano for help with her science project while Sami scampered off to deal with a hitman issue.
Isn't Stefano still in Chicago? EJ was talking to him in the same Salem day that Sami supposedly left her daughter in his care.
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I think that was just a "humorous" throwaway line from Sami. I didn't get the impression that she was leaving Allie in his care when she suggested asking him about killing the ozone layer. It was really a lame joke IMO.
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freedom
May 11 2014, 10:25 PM
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May 11 2014, 10:19 PM
freedom
May 11 2014, 08:43 PM
BeeBee
May 11 2014, 06:15 PM
Why wouldn't Sami blast Kate? She's getting back with Stefano, for crying out loud.
Who is Sami to blast anyone for getting back with someone.Nick has not treated Gabi as badly as EJ has treated Sami yet Sami is back with EJ.Stefano has not treated Kate as badly as EJ has treated Sami.If Sami wants to get back with EJ that is her decision but she is the last person to lecture anyone about getting together with someone "unworthy" of being given another chance after all the crap she and EJ have done to each other.
I hate Ejami, but EJ is not as bad as Stefano.

I agree, though, they don't need to have Sami blasting anyone. She has no moral authority. They need to let Marlena do it.
But Stefano is a changed man.

He was working with the CIA to bring in those arms smugglers.

He hasn't brain chipped, doppelgangered or entrapped anyone in years.
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