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Monday, May 12th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: May 11 2014, 10:56 PM (23,598 Views)
Kaha
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I actually liked the episode very much. As usual there were few inconsistencies and WTF moments but it was a well executed episode.
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Matt
May 12 2014, 01:23 PM
Pookie
May 12 2014, 01:10 PM
Prediction: One shot in the back. That was Gabi. 2 shots in the front. Those were the hit man. Nick only saw Gabi. Gabi will lose it and confess. Down the road, the police will figure out EJ and Sami put a hit out on Nick and they go on the run together.
Good theory!
Excellent theory! Leaves it open for a Gabi return either with a recast or cb return!
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iheartwilson
May 12 2014, 01:22 PM
This episode was boring for me.

Me too.
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Kaha
May 12 2014, 12:57 PM
Will looked really pissed and Sonny looked sad and resigned. One of them will confess.
Red herrings! Will examined the gun and saw it had been fired. Sonny came home and saw Will with the gun. They both have reason to suspect one another but not Gabi.

Though it would not shock me if Will or Sonny confessed to protect the other.

But we all know it will be the baby. or Gabi.
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I haven't read any of the comments in this thread yet, and I probably won't have time to for a while, but just to make a few of my own...I love Kate for having the same sort of reaction to this whole thing that I'm having, and being just as willing to admit it as I am.

And Gabi's definitely the killer. The anvils were all over this episode.
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Bellarke <3

Angelsmile
May 12 2014, 01:34 PM
iheartwilson
May 12 2014, 01:22 PM
This episode was boring for me. I'm relieved Nick is finally gone. Not once did I even get teary eyed by the sadness of other characters. The only part I liked was the montage at the end.
I felt the same way. I also liked Kate refusing to pretend to be anything but glad Nick was gone. I probably would have been moved by Julie, Maggie, and Hope's intense grief over Nick if I had seen them show any level of compassion before now for others that Nick had harmed. It would have made their emotions seemed more even-handed as opposed to idolization of Nick. At least that's how it felt to me.
I'm sorry, but who besides Gabi did Nick harm during this run? I hardly call Nick blackmailing the people who tried to drown him and those covering it up as him harming them. Regarding Ari, if Will had a good lawyer, there would have been no way for Will to lose custody of his daughter. Thus making Nick's manipulation moot and pointless.
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Honeybees
May 12 2014, 01:46 PM
Kaha
May 12 2014, 12:57 PM
Will looked really pissed and Sonny looked sad and resigned. One of them will confess.
Red herrings! Will examined the gun and saw it had been fired. Sonny came home and saw Will with the gun. They both have reason to suspect one another but not Gabi.

Though it would not shock me if Will or Sonny confessed to protect the other.

But we all know it will be the baby. or Gabi.
Don't forget Ari's accomplice, Caroline. It's definitely one of those three.

I actually missed Will examining the gun. I only switched back when Will was asking Sonny if he came back home and Sonny said something about bringing milk for Ari?

Is Ari old enough to drink regular milk?
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An excellent job on keeping the drama paramount after the shooting. Beautiful emotion from Julie, Hope, Gabi and Maggie. Love that these women had their chance to really show their chops today. Gabi's montage of happier times with Nick and Julie's listing of the suspects were splendid additions to the episode. Cold-hearted Kate being completely blase was a good contrast to the family members dealing with their shock. Little Allie tore appropriately at my heart as she could only focus on the amount of grisly blood. I'd like to see this murder really have lasting effects for little Allie and also for Sami. It's one thing to feel control by ordering a hit, but to then see it before her eyes and realize the true weight of such a cold decision has to change a person. I want to see ripples.
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Great scenes by Camila today with seeing Nick at the morgue. The Nabi flashbacks were bittersweet since they had potential and tiic ruined them and also Gabi is probably his killer. Still good work by Camila. :'( :'(
Edited by guessgirl, May 12 2014, 01:56 PM.
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Deverauxfan
May 12 2014, 01:50 PM
Angelsmile
May 12 2014, 01:34 PM
iheartwilson
May 12 2014, 01:22 PM
This episode was boring for me. I'm relieved Nick is finally gone. Not once did I even get teary eyed by the sadness of other characters. The only part I liked was the montage at the end.
I felt the same way. I also liked Kate refusing to pretend to be anything but glad Nick was gone. I probably would have been moved by Julie, Maggie, and Hope's intense grief over Nick if I had seen them show any level of compassion before now for others that Nick had harmed. It would have made their emotions seemed more even-handed as opposed to idolization of Nick. At least that's how it felt to me.
I'm sorry, but who besides Gabi did Nick harm during this run? I hardly call Nick blackmailing the people who tried to drown him and those covering it up as him harming them. Regarding Ari, if Will had a good lawyer, there would have been no way for Will to lose custody of his daughter. Thus making Nick's manipulation moot and pointless.
Did you miss the part when Nick threatened to not challenge the custody or he'll put everyone in jail? Or when he threatened Gabi to not change anything about the custody agreement?

No matter how many times you want to repeat it, it doesn't make it real. Will and Sonny didn't do anything to him, nor did Abigail and yet he went out of his way to threaten all of them.
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Matt
May 12 2014, 12:44 PM
of course, you know Nick only died because Daniel wasn't there to save him with a coffee spoon & a pair of tweezers...
True this.
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I loved this episode for so many reasons. First of all, it was nice to see an entire episode devoted to the same sl....for this reason, I watched all the way through today with no ff.

I think that I am in the minority, but I'm into in this sl as I like all of the characters involved to varying degrees. I thought SSH was mostly awesome today though for me, there were a few OTT moments but nothing major. Again why isn't she a reigning Matriarch on this show?

KA for me was really good, I loved how she allowed herself to breakdown in her time with Nick, then came out of the room composed and resolved great transition.

After today's ep I feel for sure that Abigail did not do this, she was just too shocked and too upset to be the one, same as Ben he didn't know Nick well enough, where would he get a gun and how would he know where Nick even was.

Gabi still looks looks good for the murder and as noted up thread already, the pink diaper bag is gone and she was alone, but what about Jordan didn't they go to the hospital together how did they split up? CB was a mess! And I loved it, one of the most beautiful women on the show managed to look ugly and really crying. CB was very good today imo, I do think she was grieving, I do think she did it, and I also do think she was genuinely sad yet relieved while viewing the body.

Kate's callousness....was cold, wow. I'm surprised at Lucas's reaction, he at least seemed to really feel bad about Nick and I loved his concern for Ally, which of course is as it should be. Lucas is always win imo. I'm not going to be as hard on Sami as some :) I think she was genuinely concerned for Ally and did want her to come home.

I totally adored WilSon scenes today. I'm hoping that there will be a gif of Sonny rolling his eyes when Julie was talking about Nick loving Gabi so much, Will happened to look over at him while he did it. I totally think that Will thinks Sonny did it, and when Will said, "I'd do anything for you." that was Will's way of saying that he'd lie to the police for him, maybe by saying they were together the whole time? At any rate, I like this direction for the couple. A bit of suspicion is good for some drama, something I've been waiting for. :)

I like that Sonny had the extra long montage at the end, I can only assume that was indeed the murder weapon both he and Will were touching before putting it away.

Not sure why Julie said the full names of all of her suspects at the scene but at least we can rule Ally as the shooter for those of you who wanted a wtf twist to the identity of Nick's killer. ;)

Hopefully tomorrow with be more of the same drama.
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I'm thinking there is some significance to Stephano's portrait fading out over Nick.

Also I don't understand why people still think the hitman had anything to do with it.

1 The shots came from the same direction. Nick turned around. So that rules out the 2 gun theory.

2) a hitman would have been sure Nick was dead. He wouldn't have been so sloppy to let Nick wander to the square.

3) Forensics will figure out that Sonny's gun fired the shots.
Edited by jewlmc, May 12 2014, 02:10 PM.
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Deverauxfan
May 12 2014, 01:50 PM
Angelsmile
May 12 2014, 01:34 PM
iheartwilson
May 12 2014, 01:22 PM
This episode was boring for me. I'm relieved Nick is finally gone. Not once did I even get teary eyed by the sadness of other characters. The only part I liked was the montage at the end.
I felt the same way. I also liked Kate refusing to pretend to be anything but glad Nick was gone. I probably would have been moved by Julie, Maggie, and Hope's intense grief over Nick if I had seen them show any level of compassion before now for others that Nick had harmed. It would have made their emotions seemed more even-handed as opposed to idolization of Nick. At least that's how it felt to me.
I'm sorry, but who besides Gabi did Nick harm during this run? I hardly call Nick blackmailing the people who tried to drown him and those covering it up as him harming them. Regarding Ari, if Will had a good lawyer, there would have been no way for Will to lose custody of his daughter. Thus making Nick's manipulation moot and pointless.
The women didn't try to drown Nick. (But I realize that it's futile to try to argue this point with the people who believe otherwise. And you're certainly entitled to that opinion, even if the facts of the storyline don't exactly agree.)

And Nick was manipulating the situation so that Will's lawyer wouldn't be able to provide Will with a good defense during the custody hearing. Nick had made it clear that if Will's lawyer had done so (whether that lawyer had been E.J. or anyone else), Nick would have destroyed everyone's lives with the supposedly damning evidence he had on each of them.

Even if you ignore everything Nick did last year and just focus on what he has done since returning from the dead, Gabi most certainly was not the only person he was harming.
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"I mean it, get the hell back!"

Julie is on the attack! Love it.

I also like that Jordan jumped up to try to help Nick, and it's believable that she is EMT certified. I approve!
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jewlmc
May 12 2014, 12:51 PM
Sweet and Salty
May 12 2014, 12:44 PM
Will: "How you doing?"
Julie: "Ask about Nick!"

Perfect. Been there. Said that.
Why the hell does Will have ask about Nick?
When you're in grief...and the one in question is going to live or die..and someone asks how YOU are, for me and I think a lot of people, you hurt so bad that they're asking how YOU'RE doing, because you want them to care how the dying person is doing. You have to have been there. She wanted to know that Will cared how NICK was doing. Nick is on the verge of living (on earth) or dying (physically).

To me, that was good writing. He didn't HAVE to ask how Nick was doing, but Julie, in her pain, wanted Will to care how NICK was doing.

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Oh, and Julie left out someone when she was making her list of suspects -- Allie. I realize that it's unlikely that Julie would even suspect Allie in the first place, but if we're listing everyone who was in Nick's line of sight at the time that she asked him to tell her who had shot him, Allie needs to be included.
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It bothered me that Sami didn't try to turn Allie around or cover her eyes or anything. I was happy when Kate came over and distracted the poor girl. I hope Days gives us some continuity with Allie having nightmares, acting out, etc.
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iheartwilson
May 12 2014, 12:54 PM
Sweet and Salty
May 12 2014, 12:47 PM
Ohhhhh I love that Will looks pissed at Sonny!

Makes me love him more!!
Is Will thinking Sonny could be guilty of shooting Nick?
That's how I perceived it.
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