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Monday, May 12th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: May 11 2014, 10:56 PM (23,597 Views)
Angelsmile
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Deverauxfan
May 12 2014, 01:50 PM
Angelsmile
May 12 2014, 01:34 PM
iheartwilson
May 12 2014, 01:22 PM
This episode was boring for me. I'm relieved Nick is finally gone. Not once did I even get teary eyed by the sadness of other characters. The only part I liked was the montage at the end.
I felt the same way. I also liked Kate refusing to pretend to be anything but glad Nick was gone. I probably would have been moved by Julie, Maggie, and Hope's intense grief over Nick if I had seen them show any level of compassion before now for others that Nick had harmed. It would have made their emotions seemed more even-handed as opposed to idolization of Nick. At least that's how it felt to me.
I'm sorry, but who besides Gabi did Nick harm during this run? I hardly call Nick blackmailing the people who tried to drown him and those covering it up as him harming them. Regarding Ari, if Will had a good lawyer, there would have been no way for Will to lose custody of his daughter. Thus making Nick's manipulation moot and pointless.
I consider blackmail harmful no matter who it is done to. That being said, in my opinion, this time is just a continuation of all that had gone before. Especially since he targeted Will and Sonny for keeping quiet to protect Gabi when that was supposedly what he was trying to do. As for the custody issue Will would never have won with Nick scaring Gabi into taking a hard line and his blackmailing Sami (EJ) to provide less than competent representation. He was already telling Sami what EJ could not bring up in court, he was in control of that case.
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Wow. Usually I find Allie to be monotonous and dull, but that little girl is actual doing some really good work. I'm impressed!

Kate is so nonchalant about Nick's murder, lol. So in-character for her.
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Susan Seaforth Hayes is ripping these scenes up. Julie was the perfect person to include for this part of the story!
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Matt
May 12 2014, 01:23 PM
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May 12 2014, 01:10 PM
Prediction: One shot in the back. That was Gabi. 2 shots in the front. Those were the hit man. Nick only saw Gabi. Gabi will lose it and confess. Down the road, the police will figure out EJ and Sami put a hit out on Nick and they go on the run together.
Good theory!
Isn't that how they did it when EJ was shot in the spine. I believe the shooters were Marlena, Kate and Lucas who turned out to be Wlil. One bullet hit Sami's dress and the other in Ej's back. I don't recall if there was a third bullet.
Edited by Halloween Family, May 12 2014, 02:15 PM.
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May 12 2014, 01:23 PM
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May 12 2014, 01:10 PM
Prediction: One shot in the back. That was Gabi. 2 shots in the front. Those were the hit man. Nick only saw Gabi. Gabi will lose it and confess. Down the road, the police will figure out EJ and Sami put a hit out on Nick and they go on the run together.
Good theory!
Agree.

How they write out EJami.

And Gabi.
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Will&Sonny


If this storyline doesn't, at some point, involve Julie learning that her precious Nick was, among other things, a homophobe, an extortionist, and an attempted rapist, I'm going to be really annoyed.
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May 12 2014, 02:15 PM
If this storyline doesn't, at some point, involve Julie learning that her precious Nick was, among other things, a homophobe, an extortionist, and an attempted rapist, I'm going to be really annoyed.
Um, didn't Julie just acknowledge on Friday that Nick has "demons" that he has to deal with? I'm missing the part where Julie said that her "precious Nick" was not guilty of all of those things.
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I still don't buy the "multiple shooters" theory. The shots all came from the same direction.

But I'm the one who also thinks that it's pointless to even entertain the possibility that the killer could have been anyone other than Gabi, so there's that. ;)

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am103
May 12 2014, 02:18 PM
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May 12 2014, 02:15 PM
If this storyline doesn't, at some point, involve Julie learning that her precious Nick was, among other things, a homophobe, an extortionist, and an attempted rapist, I'm going to be really annoyed.
Um, didn't Julie just acknowledge on Friday that Nick has "demons" that he has to deal with? I'm missing the part where Julie said that her "precious Nick" was not guilty of all of those things.
Julie definitely doesn't know about the attempted rape, and how much she knows about the homophobia and the blackmail is up for debate. If she knows the full extent of what Nick did to Will last year, she's certainly never done a very good job of showing Will much compassion for what he went through because of Nick.

Julie knows that Nick is a murderer, and that could be enough to qualify as "demons". I want her to know everything. If she wants to believe that Nick is a good soul at heart, fair enough, but she should be given the opportunity to make that decision based on all of the facts instead of just some of them.
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I love Maggie when she's concerned about other people who aren't her EggBaby.

I'm really liking Jordan today, and I think it's because she's interacting with people who aren't just Rafe and Ben.

Hmm... Lucas deleted the text messages from Nick. He may not be the shooter, but he definitely knows more than he's letting on.

LOVED Julie referring to EJami as "vultures", and her breakdown at learning of Nick's death was simply heartbreaking. SSH is simply owning today!
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lysie


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May 12 2014, 02:13 PM
Matt
May 12 2014, 01:23 PM
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May 12 2014, 01:10 PM
Prediction: One shot in the back. That was Gabi. 2 shots in the front. Those were the hit man. Nick only saw Gabi. Gabi will lose it and confess. Down the road, the police will figure out EJ and Sami put a hit out on Nick and they go on the run together.
Good theory!
Isn't that how they did it when EJ was shot in the spine. I believe the shooters were Marlena, Kate and Lucas who turned out to be Wlil. One bullet hit Sami's dress and the other in Ej's back. I don't recall if there was a third bullet.
The third bullet was Marlena's and it hit the pulpit. Before Kate and Marlena were suspects, Roman and Steve were.
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Oh, and Julie knows that Nick was raped in prison. That's another thing that she could have been referring to when she mentioned "demons".
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Kristian Alfonso is amazing in Hope's goodbye scenes to Nick. They remind me a lot of how Hope reacted to Lexie's death.

This is so sad!
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Sweet and Salty
May 12 2014, 02:14 PM
Matt
May 12 2014, 01:23 PM
Pookie
May 12 2014, 01:10 PM
Prediction: One shot in the back. That was Gabi. 2 shots in the front. Those were the hit man. Nick only saw Gabi. Gabi will lose it and confess. Down the road, the police will figure out EJ and Sami put a hit out on Nick and they go on the run together.
Good theory!
Agree.

How they write out EJami.

And Gabi.
I highly doubt either Sami or EJ's exit will have to do with Nick.
I suspect an "I didn't do it." from the hitman any day now. Total red herring.
Edited by jewlmc, May 12 2014, 02:37 PM.
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These Horton scenes are heartbreaking! THIS is the kind of stuff I was expecting when Jack died.
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Overall I thought today was a well written, well - acted episode. The little girl playing Allie did an excellent job playing the traumatized witness. SSH was glorious in her silently OTT moments and even better in her quiet, vindictive, menacing moments. Loved her all calling EJ and Sami vultures. And Kate offered up a bit of comic relief just by being Kate.

Days did something realistic by actually having Rafe recuse himself from the show. Hope should have done the same but I do see the drama in having the victim be family as well as the majority of your suspects family as well.

Loved the last sequence in the show - very well shot.
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am103
May 12 2014, 02:18 PM
Will&Sonny
May 12 2014, 02:15 PM
If this storyline doesn't, at some point, involve Julie learning that her precious Nick was, among other things, a homophobe, an extortionist, and an attempted rapist, I'm going to be really annoyed.
Um, didn't Julie just acknowledge on Friday that Nick has "demons" that he has to deal with? I'm missing the part where Julie said that her "precious Nick" was not guilty of all of those things.
I would need to go back and watch, because maybe I missed some specific dialogue. But I would imagine that understanding someone is disturbed and needs help is a bit different than actually being confronted with everything that person has done. Does Julie actually have specific knowledge of all of those things? She'd have to in order to make a judgement of his guilt, and I don't think she can reasonably do that. As far as I can remember, anyway. At least not the attempted rape.

I certainly am not looking for anyone, especially Julie, Maggie, Hope, etc., to end up thinking Nick's death was justified, it wasn't. But judging by how much he made me want to throw things at my screen, I wouldn't mind a little exposition of his maliciousness, whether he could've been helped in the end or not.
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lysie


So I watched the whole episode. I have some major issues with the story as a whole, but I tried to pretend I didn't.

First of all, Lucas and Sami looked like absolute idiots with Allie. And absolute ugh to Lucas then leaving her at the pub. Those nightmares you keep saying she's going to have? THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN WHILE SHE'S ASLEEP SO DON'T LEAVE HER AT THE PUB WITH AN OLD CRAZY LADY. But my goodness. The Rose twins have stepped.it.up. Johnny who? They or she or whoever did really, really well.

Sami and EJ couldn't look more guilty if they were wearing Kill Nick Fallon t-shirts. I can barely even comprehend the idiocy of them going to the hospital. And apparently the kids woke up because on Friday's episode they were asleep, and then today they needed to hear more stories.

It is flat out amazing how much more likable Maggie is with the Hortons than she is with Daniel and Brady. Put her with her actual family, and that's Aunt Maggie, and that's who I loved.

Sonny, Arianna is still too young for that cow's milk you went out to buy her. Give it 8 days.

I thought SSH was really good, especially in the square when she was "protecting" Nick from everyone. I wish they'd bring in some more of her specific family, so that the relationship doesn't seem so contrived.

I wonder if Hope being family is going to end up causing an issue.

I'm on the fence about Kate. Ultimately, it was perfectly in character, and I didn't think it was as much of a caricature as the stuff at the river did. The part where she told Maggie was great. I wish she hadn't gone to the hospital, though.

I liked how KM played Abby's reactions, and I like the complexity they added to that. Actually, with the way they did her flashbacks, I'd have believed they were setting her up to be more of a suspect, but I don't think that will be the case.

The end was set up well, but I didn't like how Julie listed Will and Lucas as Will Horton and Lucas Horton. It just sounded weird. I also wish they'd have had her be a little more hesitant about listing all the family members. Also, she forgot Allie, lol.

In case anyone was keeping up, currently Allie, Ciara, Arianna, and presumably Joey are all at the pub.

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I love that there were no extraneous storylines today. It was nothing but the shooting as it should be.
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Maggie and Julie are breaking my heart!

Also, that Nick/Gabi montage was very well-done.

Hmmm... Was the gun Sonny took from the Kiriakis mansion fired? Sure seems like that's what Will thinks.
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