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May 16 2014, 01:24 PM
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Actually that's the part I find most entertaining. Sami has no idea about EJ's true motivations...from the woman who is supposed to know him best etc...she is totally clueless!! Which is no surprise because she thinks no end of herself. Why would any man cheat on the likes of her! rme. So if I have to like something about the current EJami it would be that.
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May 16 2014, 01:38 PM
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Actually that's the part I find most entertaining. Sami has no idea about EJ's true motivations...from the woman who is supposed to know him best etc...she is totally clueless!! Which is no surprise because she thinks no end of herself. Why would any man cheat on the likes of her! rme. So if I have to like something about the current EJami it would be that. And Abby does know his true motivation.
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May 16 2014, 02:02 PM
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I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
Personally I think when you try to write to appease one specific fanbase, you lose respect from the others. And it's never going to be a good situation. even if they chose to appease Lumis or Safes (or ejabby for that matter), you will piss everyone off. So what a TV show and writers SHOULD do is what is right for the story. What is right for the characters and the plots. Ejami, after having burning each other over and over again in countless ways, don't deserve a happy ending together. You don't send a victim off with her rapist. You don't send a gunshot victim off with his shooter. And this last storyline of them apparently plotting to kill Nick is yet another reason why this couple SUCKS the life out of this show. People who inflict misery on someone else doesn't deserve to be rewarded for that. And what's truly tragic about this is, Sami believes EJ has done this FOR HER in an attempt to protect her son and keep his daughter. Instead, EJ did this to save his own ass so that the affair would not come out. That is not romantic. That isn't the least bit romantic. That just makes him look like a giant dickhead who believes its better to take a man's life than risk his fiancee finding out he made (several) mistakes. I just...I can't get over how absolutely FUCKED UP Ejami are and are the least romantic couple I've ever seen with the exception of Hannibal/Alana (and even then I'd probably root for them over Ejami since Hannibal has never physically harmed Alana).
I could agree on that you shouldnīt write for a specific fanbase except that I think it to late for that the show should have handle things differently years ago then. I think they already piss off the Lumis and Safe that I donīt see a Ejami wedding could piss them off that much anymore, and you wonīt piss off everyone if Ejami gets a HEA Ejamis will be happy otherwise they would get piss off.
As I said in an other post I donīt see it as Ejami gets rewarded but their fans.
I donīt think putting out a hit is romantic, but I think it prooves that Sami is the woman EJ wants and are inlove with and that he would do anything to keep her and that is romantic. I think Sami will see how desperate EJ is to be with her and that he just consider Abby a mistake and therefore will forgive him.
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May 16 2014, 02:10 PM
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Actually that's the part I find most entertaining. Sami has no idea about EJ's true motivations...from the woman who is supposed to know him best etc...she is totally clueless!! Which is no surprise because she thinks no end of herself. Why would any man cheat on the likes of her! rme. So if I have to like something about the current EJami it would be that.
And Abby does know his true motivation. And that is just courtesy of shoddy writing. We had Sami knowing that EJ was holding something back about Kristen and saying that she knows EJ down to his bones. And 2 days later she's clueless. Just like EJ telling her he loves her so much that it hurts & screwing Abby an hour later. Then there is Abby saying she knows what she did & she's a woman who knows her mind in the cabin & then it turns into EJ being the big bad wolf for manipulating her.
If the writers want Sami clueless that day, she's clueless. If they want EJ to randomly screw someone, he will. if they want Abby to be her own woman one day and a whiny little girl the next, so be it. It has nothing to do with any true character traits such as Sami's narcissism, EJ's love for Sami or Abby's maturity.
And EJ's true motivations still revolve around Sami and saving her hurt & pain.
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May 16 2014, 02:12 PM
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- May 16 2014, 04:14 AM
"He completely had my back" :rolleyes: Accept when he had abby's front. Yeah he's had Sami's back too though when he threw her on a table and slammed her from the back. :yuk:
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May 16 2014, 02:16 PM
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Geez Im just glad they are gone. So much could have been done with the characters but this show focused too much on Ejami's twisted sick romance. I just think its stupid to think Ejami should get some HEA. They've only been in story for 8 years. Sami's been around a lot longer and had better stories PRE- EJ
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May 16 2014, 02:35 PM
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We must still not be to the part where they are writing for a specific fan base. It certainly isn't for Ejami, lol. I'm thinking THEY think everything that has happened is for the sake of the story.
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May 16 2014, 02:38 PM
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I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
Personally I think when you try to write to appease one specific fanbase, you lose respect from the others. And it's never going to be a good situation. even if they chose to appease Lumis or Safes (or ejabby for that matter), you will piss everyone off. So what a TV show and writers SHOULD do is what is right for the story. What is right for the characters and the plots. Ejami, after having burning each other over and over again in countless ways, don't deserve a happy ending together. You don't send a victim off with her rapist. You don't send a gunshot victim off with his shooter. And this last storyline of them apparently plotting to kill Nick is yet another reason why this couple SUCKS the life out of this show. People who inflict misery on someone else doesn't deserve to be rewarded for that. And what's truly tragic about this is, Sami believes EJ has done this FOR HER in an attempt to protect her son and keep his daughter. Instead, EJ did this to save his own ass so that the affair would not come out. That is not romantic. That isn't the least bit romantic. That just makes him look like a giant dickhead who believes its better to take a man's life than risk his fiancee finding out he made (several) mistakes. I just...I can't get over how absolutely FUCKED UP Ejami are and are the least romantic couple I've ever seen with the exception of Hannibal/Alana (and even then I'd probably root for them over Ejami since Hannibal has never physically harmed Alana).
I could agree on that you shouldnīt write for a specific fanbase except that I think it to late for that the show should have handle things differently years ago then. I think they already piss off the Lumis and Safe that I donīt see a Ejami wedding could piss them off that much anymore, and you wonīt piss off everyone if Ejami gets a HEA Ejamis will be happy otherwise they would get piss off. As I said in an other post I donīt see it as Ejami gets rewarded but their fans. I donīt think putting out a hit is romantic, but I think it prooves that Sami is the woman EJ wants and are inlove with and that he would do anything to keep her and that is romantic. I think Sami will see how desperate EJ is to be with her and that he just consider Abby a mistake and therefore will forgive him. What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters.
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May 16 2014, 02:39 PM
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A HEA ending would be so incredibly boring and vanilla....of COURSE the most boring route will be the route DAYS goes...that much is guranteed.
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May 16 2014, 02:44 PM
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I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
Personally I think when you try to write to appease one specific fanbase, you lose respect from the others. And it's never going to be a good situation. even if they chose to appease Lumis or Safes (or ejabby for that matter), you will piss everyone off. So what a TV show and writers SHOULD do is what is right for the story. What is right for the characters and the plots. Ejami, after having burning each other over and over again in countless ways, don't deserve a happy ending together. You don't send a victim off with her rapist. You don't send a gunshot victim off with his shooter. And this last storyline of them apparently plotting to kill Nick is yet another reason why this couple SUCKS the life out of this show. People who inflict misery on someone else doesn't deserve to be rewarded for that. And what's truly tragic about this is, Sami believes EJ has done this FOR HER in an attempt to protect her son and keep his daughter. Instead, EJ did this to save his own ass so that the affair would not come out. That is not romantic. That isn't the least bit romantic. That just makes him look like a giant dickhead who believes its better to take a man's life than risk his fiancee finding out he made (several) mistakes. I just...I can't get over how absolutely FUCKED UP Ejami are and are the least romantic couple I've ever seen with the exception of Hannibal/Alana (and even then I'd probably root for them over Ejami since Hannibal has never physically harmed Alana). THIS! :hail:
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May 16 2014, 02:57 PM
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I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
Personally I think when you try to write to appease one specific fanbase, you lose respect from the others. And it's never going to be a good situation. even if they chose to appease Lumis or Safes (or ejabby for that matter), you will piss everyone off. So what a TV show and writers SHOULD do is what is right for the story. What is right for the characters and the plots. Ejami, after having burning each other over and over again in countless ways, don't deserve a happy ending together. You don't send a victim off with her rapist. You don't send a gunshot victim off with his shooter. And this last storyline of them apparently plotting to kill Nick is yet another reason why this couple SUCKS the life out of this show. People who inflict misery on someone else doesn't deserve to be rewarded for that. And what's truly tragic about this is, Sami believes EJ has done this FOR HER in an attempt to protect her son and keep his daughter. Instead, EJ did this to save his own ass so that the affair would not come out. That is not romantic. That isn't the least bit romantic. That just makes him look like a giant dickhead who believes its better to take a man's life than risk his fiancee finding out he made (several) mistakes. I just...I can't get over how absolutely FUCKED UP Ejami are and are the least romantic couple I've ever seen with the exception of Hannibal/Alana (and even then I'd probably root for them over Ejami since Hannibal has never physically harmed Alana).
I could agree on that you shouldnīt write for a specific fanbase except that I think it to late for that the show should have handle things differently years ago then. I think they already piss off the Lumis and Safe that I donīt see a Ejami wedding could piss them off that much anymore, and you wonīt piss off everyone if Ejami gets a HEA Ejamis will be happy otherwise they would get piss off. As I said in an other post I donīt see it as Ejami gets rewarded but their fans. I donīt think putting out a hit is romantic, but I think it prooves that Sami is the woman EJ wants and are inlove with and that he would do anything to keep her and that is romantic. I think Sami will see how desperate EJ is to be with her and that he just consider Abby a mistake and therefore will forgive him.
What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters. Sami was never a meek and boring minivan driving soccer mom either but she became one during the Safe relationship. I couldn't stand what she became then just like I couldn't stand what she became in the Lumi relationship as well.
The EJami relationship is still by far the Sami pairing that I think has the best potential to keep her character true to her history.
The writers mess it up like they do with every pairing anymore on this show because the writers haven't written a character-driven story in years and years.
EJami didn't mess up Sami. The writers messed up Sami.
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May 16 2014, 03:05 PM
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Run, Forest, run! I'm glad JS is leaving and will (maybe) give it a go in some other acting gigs. I hope he does anyways.
I'm excited for both he and AS to try something new. If either or both decide to come back then at least they will have tried other stuff and have had a nice break.
It's a sad commentary for the show when you are happy your favs are leaving the nest. Four years ago this news would have devastated me. Now? It's the opposite.
No more slaps in the face for EJami after October. At least there is that.
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May 16 2014, 03:26 PM
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I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
Personally I think when you try to write to appease one specific fanbase, you lose respect from the others. And it's never going to be a good situation. even if they chose to appease Lumis or Safes (or ejabby for that matter), you will piss everyone off. So what a TV show and writers SHOULD do is what is right for the story. What is right for the characters and the plots. Ejami, after having burning each other over and over again in countless ways, don't deserve a happy ending together. You don't send a victim off with her rapist. You don't send a gunshot victim off with his shooter. And this last storyline of them apparently plotting to kill Nick is yet another reason why this couple SUCKS the life out of this show. People who inflict misery on someone else doesn't deserve to be rewarded for that. And what's truly tragic about this is, Sami believes EJ has done this FOR HER in an attempt to protect her son and keep his daughter. Instead, EJ did this to save his own ass so that the affair would not come out. That is not romantic. That isn't the least bit romantic. That just makes him look like a giant dickhead who believes its better to take a man's life than risk his fiancee finding out he made (several) mistakes. I just...I can't get over how absolutely FUCKED UP Ejami are and are the least romantic couple I've ever seen with the exception of Hannibal/Alana (and even then I'd probably root for them over Ejami since Hannibal has never physically harmed Alana).
I could agree on that you shouldnīt write for a specific fanbase except that I think it to late for that the show should have handle things differently years ago then. I think they already piss off the Lumis and Safe that I donīt see a Ejami wedding could piss them off that much anymore, and you wonīt piss off everyone if Ejami gets a HEA Ejamis will be happy otherwise they would get piss off. As I said in an other post I donīt see it as Ejami gets rewarded but their fans. I donīt think putting out a hit is romantic, but I think it prooves that Sami is the woman EJ wants and are inlove with and that he would do anything to keep her and that is romantic. I think Sami will see how desperate EJ is to be with her and that he just consider Abby a mistake and therefore will forgive him.
What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters. I never liked that Sami never forgave John and Marlena for the affair it was childish and Jarlena didn't deserve it since it wasn't their fault but Stefano Sami should grow up and realize that.
I'm not sure whether or not I think Sami fits as a mobwife. When she raped Austin and lied about Will's paternity she seemed to embrace her dark side to me and I think EJ's character reminded me a lot of Sami's character they both were constantly up to no good but EJ was worse since he was running around trying to kill people. Anyway it's not like Ejami has been written in a eay that I have wanted either. I didn't want EJ to fake Sydney's death or for Sami to shoot him etc. I don't think I would have written Sami as a mobwife either but as someone being attrative to EJ even though he was a mobster and trying to fight that attraction but it's to late to write it like that.
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May 16 2014, 03:30 PM
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I could agree on that you shouldnīt write for a specific fanbase except that I think it to late for that the show should have handle things differently years ago then. I think they already piss off the Lumis and Safe that I donīt see a Ejami wedding could piss them off that much anymore, and you wonīt piss off everyone if Ejami gets a HEA Ejamis will be happy otherwise they would get piss off. As I said in an other post I donīt see it as Ejami gets rewarded but their fans. I donīt think putting out a hit is romantic, but I think it prooves that Sami is the woman EJ wants and are inlove with and that he would do anything to keep her and that is romantic. I think Sami will see how desperate EJ is to be with her and that he just consider Abby a mistake and therefore will forgive him.
What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters.
Sami was never a meek and boring minivan driving soccer mom either but she became one during the Safe relationship. I couldn't stand what she became then just like I couldn't stand what she became in the Lumi relationship as well. The EJami relationship is still by far the Sami pairing that I think has the best potential to keep her character true to her history. The writers mess it up like they do with every pairing anymore on this show because the writers haven't written a character-driven story in years and years. EJami didn't mess up Sami. The writers messed up Sami. I certainly agree with this :) While I can understand what others are saying about wtf story and so on. As I see it all is that Sami is most entertaining with a man who can embrace her dark side and EJ the only one who has done this when it comes to her men in her life. When it comes to their story so a lot could have been better, but at the same time like ex Sami and Rafe who got the writing so to speak for a few years, they were uninteresting and a boring couple and like you said Sami where a dull character during this time . Anyway, what made EJami interesting was that they were power players with passion, and lots of chemistry. Totally crass the writers fucked up when it came to the story of this pair, the characters fit each other very well, but the writing was a disaster in between.
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"He completely had my back" :rolleyes: Accept when he had abby's front.
Or Nicole's Or Taylor's Or... Don't forget Katerina.
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I could agree on that you shouldnīt write for a specific fanbase except that I think it to late for that the show should have handle things differently years ago then. I think they already piss off the Lumis and Safe that I donīt see a Ejami wedding could piss them off that much anymore, and you wonīt piss off everyone if Ejami gets a HEA Ejamis will be happy otherwise they would get piss off. As I said in an other post I donīt see it as Ejami gets rewarded but their fans. I donīt think putting out a hit is romantic, but I think it prooves that Sami is the woman EJ wants and are inlove with and that he would do anything to keep her and that is romantic. I think Sami will see how desperate EJ is to be with her and that he just consider Abby a mistake and therefore will forgive him.
What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters.
Sami was never a meek and boring minivan driving soccer mom either but she became one during the Safe relationship. I couldn't stand what she became then just like I couldn't stand what she became in the Lumi relationship as well. The EJami relationship is still by far the Sami pairing that I think has the best potential to keep her character true to her history. The writers mess it up like they do with every pairing anymore on this show because the writers haven't written a character-driven story in years and years. EJami didn't mess up Sami. The writers messed up Sami. When I say write true to character I meant Safe also....I didn't like who Sami became during the Safe years anymore than you did, but at least there was one significant moment during that time that would make Sami reflect and likely mature somewhat and 'change' a bit at least the explanation didn't have to be that far fetched....it still could have been explained a bit better, but Grace's death, DID affect her and it DID make her reflect on her life, her behavior and how maybe how if she wasn't so self centered she could have probably spared Grace's life.
Sami was NEVER the person that would 'want to embrace her dark side' and that is exactly who she's become....she was never a cheater and that is who she became.....she never wanted to be a mob wife but that is who she has become.....she castrated her first rapist and continued to sleep with her second one.........I don't see how anything post 2008 is keeping the character true to herself....at least with Lucas, Sami was still Sami.....
My only saving grace is that with Sami's destruction has come the ability to finally be able to enjoy this show when she's gone......if you would have told me in 2005 that Sami was leaving I would have been really devastated. I'm relieved now....they can no longer write anything that would continue to harm her in my eyes...in that way I think you and I can relate a little....you probably feel that same way about EJ than I feel about Sami.
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I could agree on that you shouldnīt write for a specific fanbase except that I think it to late for that the show should have handle things differently years ago then. I think they already piss off the Lumis and Safe that I donīt see a Ejami wedding could piss them off that much anymore, and you wonīt piss off everyone if Ejami gets a HEA Ejamis will be happy otherwise they would get piss off. As I said in an other post I donīt see it as Ejami gets rewarded but their fans. I donīt think putting out a hit is romantic, but I think it prooves that Sami is the woman EJ wants and are inlove with and that he would do anything to keep her and that is romantic. I think Sami will see how desperate EJ is to be with her and that he just consider Abby a mistake and therefore will forgive him.
What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters.
I never liked that Sami never forgave John and Marlena for the affair it was childish and Jarlena didn't deserve it since it wasn't their fault but StefanoSami should grow up and realize that. I'm not sure whether or not I think Sami fits as a mobwife. When she raped Austin and lied about Will's paternity she seemed to embrace her dark side to me and I think EJ's character reminded me a lot of Sami's character they both were constantly up to no good but EJ was worse since he was running around trying to kill people. Anyway it's not like Ejami has been written in a eay that I have wanted either. I didn't want EJ to fake Sydney's death or for Sami to shoot him etc. I don't think I would have written Sami as a mobwife either but as someone being attrative to EJ even though he was a mobster and trying to fight that attraction but it's to late to write it like that. on the bolded, that is the ONE MAJOR reason why she should never ever trust ANYTHING Dimera.....and she continues to do so....
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May 16 2014, 03:40 PM
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In addition to describing the final Ejami scenes as really emotional she said something that they were also difficult in different ways. To me that really sounds like he goes to jail or leaves Salem without her....IDK I still don't get that they will leave and get a HEA, something about the timing is off...if these two knew about a year ago that they'd be leaving and they told one another in November or around that time, the show could have written both of them off and had them both leave together on May 2 when JS last taped. Instead they keep her around for an additional two weeks....and it seems that the kids are around for those two weeks with her. Something happens to him that ushers him off before her.....and for some reason I don't think he dies.
Did anyone get the feeling that SOD didn't do an additional exit interview with James? The information on this interview that is attributed to him we've all already heard from the initial SOD release of the news of his leaving and other interviews he's done recently. It just seems so odd that AS would be so prominent in an interview about JS leaving the show...I could see one quote from her, but she was pretty much the one giving the interview about JS leaving. It's just odd to me.
I got the same impression if they were getting a hea why are they leaving separately and why were their final scenes really emotional and reflective to me that sounds more like a goodbye scene than hea :shrug:
It could easily be done. AS & JS film their final scene/s and JS leaves. AS stays for goodbye scenes with Sami's family. God I am groaning at the agony of the thought of watching that already.
3 weeks of Sami running around Salem saying her goodbyes.
Think it's the perfect opportunity to book in a trip to Peru.
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May 16 2014, 03:54 PM
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What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters.
I never liked that Sami never forgave John and Marlena for the affair it was childish and Jarlena didn't deserve it since it wasn't their fault but StefanoSami should grow up and realize that. I'm not sure whether or not I think Sami fits as a mobwife. When she raped Austin and lied about Will's paternity she seemed to embrace her dark side to me and I think EJ's character reminded me a lot of Sami's character they both were constantly up to no good but EJ was worse since he was running around trying to kill people. Anyway it's not like Ejami has been written in a eay that I have wanted either. I didn't want EJ to fake Sydney's death or for Sami to shoot him etc. I don't think I would have written Sami as a mobwife either but as someone being attrative to EJ even though he was a mobster and trying to fight that attraction but it's to late to write it like that.
on the bolded, that is the ONE MAJOR reason why she should never ever trust ANYTHING Dimera.....and she continues to do so.... EJ isn't Stefano and I don't think he is as bad as him I think EJ is more grey, Or he definietly wouldn't have been as bad as him if things would have been written differently from the beginning.
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May 16 2014, 03:59 PM
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What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters.
Sami was never a meek and boring minivan driving soccer mom either but she became one during the Safe relationship. I couldn't stand what she became then just like I couldn't stand what she became in the Lumi relationship as well. The EJami relationship is still by far the Sami pairing that I think has the best potential to keep her character true to her history. The writers mess it up like they do with every pairing anymore on this show because the writers haven't written a character-driven story in years and years. EJami didn't mess up Sami. The writers messed up Sami.
When I say write true to character I meant Safe also....I didn't like who Sami became during the Safe years anymore than you did, but at least there was one significant moment during that time that would make Sami reflect and likely mature somewhat and 'change' a bit at least the explanation didn't have to be that far fetched....it still could have been explained a bit better, but Grace's death, DID affect her and it DID make her reflect on her life, her behavior and how maybe how if she wasn't so self centered she could have probably spared Grace's life. Sami was NEVER the person that would 'want to embrace her dark side' and that is exactly who she's become....she was never a cheater and that is who she became.....she never wanted to be a mob wife but that is who she has become.....she castrated her first rapist and continued to sleep with her second one.........I don't see how anything post 2008 is keeping the character true to herself....at least with Lucas, Sami was still Sami..... My only saving grace is that with Sami's destruction has come the ability to finally be able to enjoy this show when she's gone......if you would have told me in 2005 that Sami was leaving I would have been really devastated. I'm relieved now....they can no longer write anything that would continue to harm her in my eyes...in that way I think you and I can relate a little....you probably feel that same way about EJ than I feel about Sami. Sami was in perfect housewife mode before Grace even got sick. And she embraced her dark side all through the mid to late 90s. Besides the cheating, (which first happened with Sami and Lucas, not Sami and EJ), the only deviation from character that has happened with Sami would be the premeditated murder, and the guilt is killing her.
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