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SOD: James Scott off Days
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Topic Started: May 16 2014, 12:22 AM (12,328 Views)
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May 16 2014, 04:00 PM
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A HEA ending would be so incredibly boring and vanilla....of COURSE the most boring route will be the route DAYS goes...that much is guranteed. Yep.... I can't even really believe it, but it actually sounds like they're just gonna leave town and separately. No blaze of glories, nothing.
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May 16 2014, 04:08 PM
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A HEA ending would be so incredibly boring and vanilla....of COURSE the most boring route will be the route DAYS goes...that much is guranteed.
Yep.... I can't even really believe it, but it actually sounds like they're just gonna leave town and separately. No blaze of glories, nothing. Maybe Kristen will kill Sami and EJ will take his kids to Europe. The difference in last day of taping can be explained by AS's schedule. Maybe she needed extra weeks to tape her last scenes with her family or flashback scenes.
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May 16 2014, 04:23 PM
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I dunno and I don't really care how EJ and Sami leave- they are just leaving and that contents me fine. Good effing riddance. I can see AS getting some kind of talk or lifestyle show...I just doubt I would watch it. What I think interests her in terms of what she might like to promote or discuss wouldn't interest or concern me I guess, but I can see a lot of women responding positively to her. I think a lifestyle show that involves segments and visits to various places might be a good fit. But again, I am not setting my DVR to record the Ali Sweeney Living show anytime soon.
JS is a very fine actor who hopefully will find material that discourages his more OTT tendencies. I can see him landing some prime-time show or small movie if he wanted to seek out different acting opportunities. But it sounds like maybe he's more likely to purse some of his other interests for now?
Edited by elci525, May 16 2014, 04:24 PM.
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May 16 2014, 04:45 PM
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A HEA ending would be so incredibly boring and vanilla....of COURSE the most boring route will be the route DAYS goes...that much is guranteed.
Yep.... I can't even really believe it, but it actually sounds like they're just gonna leave town and separately. No blaze of glories, nothing.
Maybe Kristen will kill Sami and EJ will take his kids to Europe. The difference in last day of taping can be explained by AS's schedule. Maybe she needed extra weeks to tape her last scenes with her family or flashback scenes. i don't think so, AS said she didn't get a Breaking Bad ending. I don't think EJ or Sami die. EJ could end up in a coma though, with Sami skipping town to avoid a conviction.
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May 16 2014, 04:52 PM
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I don't think Sami is going to go on the run. AS is receptive to doing guest visits, and I don't think the show is going to let that opportunity pass them by.
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May 16 2014, 05:14 PM
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I want a dramatic and memorable exit for AS and JS. But considering the steady ruination of EJ and Sami's characters I think it's going to be as boring as it can be.
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May 16 2014, 05:16 PM
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What they need to do is write the story TRUE TO THE FUCKING CHARACTERS...forget fan bases.....if they would have written the Ejami story in a way that didn't totally ruin Sami for many of us then it wouldn't have been so bad. They completely made her into someone she wasn't and solely to be able to fit her in a pairing that didn't make sense to her character. A character that they established for over a decade before EJ came along. Sami has never been a mob wife, she was never a cheater, never truly wanted to embrace her dark side or anything similar, but maybe that is where this is all leading up to...obviously the choices she's made in her relationship with Ej will lead her to realize that what Ej told her she could be, was not who she necessarily ever wanted to be and in the end, she will see that and that will close the arc of their relationship. Sami blasted the likes of Carrie, Marlena, Kate for how they cheated and/or slept around.....she truly never forgave John for sleeping with her mother and ruining her family. For her to forgive the cheating would be truly nuts. But maybe she won't find out about the cheating until October? Who knows.....but seriously they need to stop trying to please fan bases and just write true to characters.
Sami was never a meek and boring minivan driving soccer mom either but she became one during the Safe relationship. I couldn't stand what she became then just like I couldn't stand what she became in the Lumi relationship as well. The EJami relationship is still by far the Sami pairing that I think has the best potential to keep her character true to her history. The writers mess it up like they do with every pairing anymore on this show because the writers haven't written a character-driven story in years and years. EJami didn't mess up Sami. The writers messed up Sami.
When I say write true to character I meant Safe also....I didn't like who Sami became during the Safe years anymore than you did, but at least there was one significant moment during that time that would make Sami reflect and likely mature somewhat and 'change' a bit at least the explanation didn't have to be that far fetched....it still could have been explained a bit better, but Grace's death, DID affect her and it DID make her reflect on her life, her behavior and how maybe how if she wasn't so self centered she could have probably spared Grace's life. Sami was NEVER the person that would 'want to embrace her dark side' and that is exactly who she's become....she was never a cheater and that is who she became.....she never wanted to be a mob wife but that is who she has become.....she castrated her first rapist and continued to sleep with her second one.........I don't see how anything post 2008 is keeping the character true to herself....at least with Lucas, Sami was still Sami..... My only saving grace is that with Sami's destruction has come the ability to finally be able to enjoy this show when she's gone......if you would have told me in 2005 that Sami was leaving I would have been really devastated. I'm relieved now....they can no longer write anything that would continue to harm her in my eyes...in that way I think you and I can relate a little....you probably feel that same way about EJ than I feel about Sami. Yeah, we can agree on that. I feel that way about EJ and about Sami actually. Getting them off the canvas means no more writing destruction. I realize I shouldn't say that out loud. See Bo. See Jack. See any number of characters who have been off screen and appeared to be absent parents, absent spouses, doing walkabouts, etc...etc..... However, at least it can't be the heavy-handed type of stuff EJami has dealt with time and again. I know fans of other couples have felt the same way at times. It speaks to just how horrible the writing has become.
As to the rest, it all comes down to personal preference. We could go round and round about what was in character or not, but it also has to do with what we like. Characters do new stuff. It happens. Just because Sami didn't do something before, she could do it now and be in character. If the writers give plausible reasons for it. That is where they fail. However, we all accept things if we like them. I didn't like how Sami was in Lumi (post Stan) and would argue that she was a character I no longer recognized. It all comes down to personal preference because we all have had to accept changes to our characters. Some are easier than others if they are in a pairing we like or story we like.
I hope there is something for me to enjoy on this show after JS and AS depart. As of right now, it's looking pretty grim.
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May 16 2014, 05:25 PM
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I want a dramatic and memorable exit for AS and JS. But considering the steady ruination of EJ and Sami's characters I think it's going to be as boring as it can be. Yeah, I think a dramatic, blaze of glory exit would be fitting for EJami. However, it's not sounding like that is not he route the writers chose. I guess it would be easier to leave the door open for both to return if they did a less dramatic departure.
It was looking like a HEA, and it still could be I suppose, but I'm leaning towards them leaving separately in some way. The one thing that appears certain though is that EJ leaves still wearing a wedding ring. If EJami are not together, EJ could still be pining for Sami and determined to win her back once again. Or EJ could leave to go on the run or go after someone and Sami goes a separate direction with the kids and leaves the relationship kind of open ended?
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May 16 2014, 05:40 PM
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I never liked that Sami never forgave John and Marlena for the affair it was childish and Jarlena didn't deserve it since it wasn't their fault but StefanoSami should grow up and realize that. I'm not sure whether or not I think Sami fits as a mobwife. When she raped Austin and lied about Will's paternity she seemed to embrace her dark side to me and I think EJ's character reminded me a lot of Sami's character they both were constantly up to no good but EJ was worse since he was running around trying to kill people. Anyway it's not like Ejami has been written in a eay that I have wanted either. I didn't want EJ to fake Sydney's death or for Sami to shoot him etc. I don't think I would have written Sami as a mobwife either but as someone being attrative to EJ even though he was a mobster and trying to fight that attraction but it's to late to write it like that.
on the bolded, that is the ONE MAJOR reason why she should never ever trust ANYTHING Dimera.....and she continues to do so....
EJ isn't Stefano and I don't think he is as bad as him I think EJ is more grey, Or he definietly wouldn't have been as bad as him if things would have been written differently from the beginning. In many ways EJ is worse than Stefano.
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May 16 2014, 06:10 PM
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I personally donīt think Ejami deserves a happy ending but their fans does.
I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall. I'm not sure why you think their fans deserve a happy ever after. It's not as if Elvis and Sami are a long suffering SUPERCOUPLE that the majority have spent years rooting for. They are hardly a conventionally root-able couple that has overcome terrible odds to be together. It's not like they were on their way to being the next Tom and Alice.
They'll probably get one, but I don't see why Lucas/Sami fans aren't more deserving of a happy ever after.
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May 16 2014, 06:12 PM
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JS talked in an interview about how the Ejamis gonna be happy with where the story is going, and he seemed very pleased with everything, and he talked before about how Ejami deserves a wedding and to stay married so he seemed to want a HEA for Ejami, but I donīt remember exactly how he worded it but it gave the impression of a HEA since Ejamis wouldnīt be happy with a ending that is not a HEA, but as I said before maybe itīs possible he talked about Ejamis being happy about getting a wedding not a HEA, but others posters also said that he and AS hinted that Sami forgives EJ for the affair and a HEA in their chat.
If Ejami donīt get a happy ending I think itīs strange why the actors seems to been hinting at that, unless maybe JS meant the Ejamis will be happy with how the story will unfold because they will finally get married and have a wedding but not a HEA. Still thinks the actors seems to happy with the ending for it to have a bittersweet ending with EJ going to jail and Sami being alone.
I can understand them "lying" about the fake out or nobody would have believed it was the real deal the point with the fake out was to fool everyone after all. As for JS saying the road to the altar is gonna be fantastic maybe he already know at the time of the interview that the story would shift from Ejabby back to Ejami and go Ejamis way. I donīt really get his brilliant twist comments but I do believe he loves Ejami and wants a HEA for them and he seemed very happy with where the story is going.
JS thinking Elvis Jr. And Sami deserve a happy ending is pretty warped if you ask me. How does he figure they deserve that? :shrug:
Well theyre both leaving the show at the same time so it makes sense thay they sould have their happily ever after, no? I mean why not? Why screw over Ejami fans when they can give us exactly what we have wanted for years. If one of them was staying then I wouldnt care but theyre both leaving so why shouldnt they have a HEA? :shrug: Because it doesn't make sense for the characters.
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May 16 2014, 06:13 PM
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I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
Personally I think when you try to write to appease one specific fanbase, you lose respect from the others. And it's never going to be a good situation. even if they chose to appease Lumis or Safes (or ejabby for that matter), you will piss everyone off. So what a TV show and writers SHOULD do is what is right for the story. What is right for the characters and the plots. Ejami, after having burning each other over and over again in countless ways, don't deserve a happy ending together. You don't send a victim off with her rapist. You don't send a gunshot victim off with his shooter. And this last storyline of them apparently plotting to kill Nick is yet another reason why this couple SUCKS the life out of this show. People who inflict misery on someone else doesn't deserve to be rewarded for that. And what's truly tragic about this is, Sami believes EJ has done this FOR HER in an attempt to protect her son and keep his daughter. Instead, EJ did this to save his own ass so that the affair would not come out. That is not romantic. That isn't the least bit romantic. That just makes him look like a giant dickhead who believes its better to take a man's life than risk his fiancee finding out he made (several) mistakes. I just...I can't get over how absolutely FUCKED UP Ejami are and are the least romantic couple I've ever seen with the exception of Hannibal/Alana (and even then I'd probably root for them over Ejami since Hannibal has never physically harmed Alana). Thank you for saying exactly what I couldn't seem to muster to save my life.
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May 16 2014, 06:19 PM
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I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
Personally I think when you try to write to appease one specific fanbase, you lose respect from the others. And it's never going to be a good situation. even if they chose to appease Lumis or Safes (or ejabby for that matter), you will piss everyone off. So what a TV show and writers SHOULD do is what is right for the story. What is right for the characters and the plots. Ejami, after having burning each other over and over again in countless ways, don't deserve a happy ending together. You don't send a victim off with her rapist. You don't send a gunshot victim off with his shooter. And this last storyline of them apparently plotting to kill Nick is yet another reason why this couple SUCKS the life out of this show. People who inflict misery on someone else doesn't deserve to be rewarded for that. And what's truly tragic about this is, Sami believes EJ has done this FOR HER in an attempt to protect her son and keep his daughter. Instead, EJ did this to save his own ass so that the affair would not come out. That is not romantic. That isn't the least bit romantic. That just makes him look like a giant dickhead who believes its better to take a man's life than risk his fiancee finding out he made (several) mistakes. I just...I can't get over how absolutely FUCKED UP Ejami are and are the least romantic couple I've ever seen with the exception of Hannibal/Alana (and even then I'd probably root for them over Ejami since Hannibal has never physically harmed Alana).
I could agree on that you shouldnīt write for a specific fanbase except that I think it to late for that the show should have handle things differently years ago then. I think they already piss off the Lumis and Safe that I donīt see a Ejami wedding could piss them off that much anymore, and you wonīt piss off everyone if Ejami gets a HEA Ejamis will be happy otherwise they would get piss off. As I said in an other post I donīt see it as Ejami gets rewarded but their fans. I donīt think putting out a hit is romantic, but I think it prooves that Sami is the woman EJ wants and are inlove with and that he would do anything to keep her and that is romantic. I think Sami will see how desperate EJ is to be with her and that he just consider Abby a mistake and therefore will forgive him. It might be romantic to two self centered idiots like Sami and Elvis, but it doesn't translate to romantic to normal loving and humane people.
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May 16 2014, 06:25 PM
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I wish them both all of the best.
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Having these two exit HEA would be a huge letdown and quite frankly a waste of the writers last chance to squeeze some volatile drama from this pair. Putting Ej and Sami together over the last year hasn't made Days a better soap. It hasn't made Days a more interesting soap either. The most entertained I've been by Sami is when she and Kate were pushing Nick into the river and the subsequent cover-up - until Ej got involved and sapped the energy from the women. Ej and Sami together were at the most entertaining when the affair reveal came out and then that turned out to be a big fake out. I'd rather be spared seeing a HEA of any sort and instead have an honest montage of all the cruelty of their past. Let these two go finally acknowledging this relationship was not meant to be.
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May 16 2014, 08:11 PM
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...... Just two actors and friends who watch out for each other.
Yes, I thought that was obvious. It is funny that she gave his interview. I guess he couldn't be bothered to talk to SOD anymore. I think she's going to get a talk show, too, but I think NBC will put it before or after Days, like ABC has done with The Chew and Katie. JS could go either way, but I don't think AS will be back, except in guest appearances.
There is absolutely no way that the NBC affiliates would give back an hour of lucrative ad rates to the network. NBC will be desperate to keep the one afternoon hour they schedule for DOOL. A handful of affiliates (Las Vegas comes immediately to mind) have already moved DOOL off the network and I am sure others are salivating at the revenue potential. If AS gets a chatshow, it will be syndicated.
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May 16 2014, 09:45 PM
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Having these two exit HEA would be a huge letdown and quite frankly a waste of the writers last chance to squeeze some volatile drama from this pair. Putting Ej and Sami together over the last year hasn't made Days a better soap. It hasn't made Days a more interesting soap either. The most entertained I've been by Sami is when she and Kate were pushing Nick into the river and the subsequent cover-up - until Ej got involved and sapped the energy from the women. Ej and Sami together were at the most entertaining when the affair reveal came out and then that turned out to be a big fake out. I'd rather be spared seeing a HEA of any sort and instead have an honest montage of all the cruelty of their past. Let these two go finally acknowledging this relationship was not meant to be.
Absolutely!
And if the affair comes out and it's not the final nail for the Ejami coffin, then show really has ruined the character Sami. How in the world she could EVER trust EJ again, that he was sleeping with another woman right under Sami's nose and his best excuse is because Sami withheld sex from him, something he could have fixed anytime by coming clean and exonerating her brother, THE RAPE VICTIM. During the time of the Ejabby affair and long after it's over, Sami doesn't have a clue that EJ has committed such a betrayal so how in the world can she ever be sure to spot the signs should he do it again?
And then finally, the show had them planning and executing a death wish on someone else. Again, THAT IS WRONG. WHY DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? And Days is not the vehicle for me to support watching ANYONE carry that out (well maybe if they put a hit on Daniel). So why should Ejami get away with that. Just because its possible someone else may have pulled the trigger doesn't mean they have to answer for attempted murder. Just ask a certain Texas mother of a teenaged cheerleader wannabe.
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May 16 2014, 10:09 PM
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I can not wait to see those final scenes. I am excited so see how it all plays out. I love that AS gave a shout out to the Ejamis. Based on comments from both JS and AS, I have no doubt in my mind that we are get our HEA in some form. It is the journey that get us there that will full of twist and turns. I will both of JS and AS, but I am excited for them as they move on to bigger better things.
I don't think they'll move to bigger and better things...frankly I think they'll both be back within a year.... You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine. My opinion is both JS and AS will do new and exciting projects and I will be supporting them in every one of them. They may come back to Days for as short stint for the 50th anniversary, but I doubt it they will. I personally do not think Days will survive beyond that point anyway. The show is a sinking boat and Jamison were smart to get out before it is under water.
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May 16 2014, 11:07 PM
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In addition to describing the final Ejami scenes as really emotional she said something that they were also difficult in different ways. To me that really sounds like he goes to jail or leaves Salem without her....IDK I still don't get that they will leave and get a HEA, something about the timing is off...if these two knew about a year ago that they'd be leaving and they told one another in November or around that time, the show could have written both of them off and had them both leave together on May 2 when JS last taped. Instead they keep her around for an additional two weeks....and it seems that the kids are around for those two weeks with her. Something happens to him that ushers him off before her.....and for some reason I don't think he dies.
Did anyone get the feeling that SOD didn't do an additional exit interview with James? The information on this interview that is attributed to him we've all already heard from the initial SOD release of the news of his leaving and other interviews he's done recently. It just seems so odd that AS would be so prominent in an interview about JS leaving the show...I could see one quote from her, but she was pretty much the one giving the interview about JS leaving. It's just odd to me.
I got the same impression if they were getting a hea why are they leaving separately and why were their final scenes really emotional and reflective to me that sounds more like a goodbye scene than hea :shrug:
It could easily be done. AS & JS film their final scene/s and JS leaves. AS stays for goodbye scenes with Sami's family.
God I am groaning at the agony of the thought of watching that already. 3 weeks of Sami running around Salem saying her goodbyes. Think it's the perfect opportunity to book in a trip to Peru. No need to go to Peru.Just fly to Colorado or Washington and stay for a week.
Edited by BeeBee, May 16 2014, 11:08 PM.
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May 17 2014, 02:16 AM
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I personally donīt think Ejami deserves a happy ending but their fans does.
I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
I'm not sure why you think their fans deserve a happy ever after. It's not as if Elvis and Sami are a long suffering SUPERCOUPLE that the majority have spent years rooting for. They are hardly a conventionally root-able couple that has overcome terrible odds to be together. It's not like they were on their way to being the next Tom and Alice. They'll probably get one, but I don't see why Lucas/Sami fans aren't more deserving of a happy ever after. Actually they are exactly that for Ejami fans.
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