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Topic Started: May 16 2014, 12:22 AM (12,327 Views)
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May 17 2014, 03:31 AM
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Sami was never a meek and boring minivan driving soccer mom either but she became one during the Safe relationship. I couldn't stand what she became then just like I couldn't stand what she became in the Lumi relationship as well. The EJami relationship is still by far the Sami pairing that I think has the best potential to keep her character true to her history. The writers mess it up like they do with every pairing anymore on this show because the writers haven't written a character-driven story in years and years. EJami didn't mess up Sami. The writers messed up Sami.
When I say write true to character I meant Safe also....I didn't like who Sami became during the Safe years anymore than you did, but at least there was one significant moment during that time that would make Sami reflect and likely mature somewhat and 'change' a bit at least the explanation didn't have to be that far fetched....it still could have been explained a bit better, but Grace's death, DID affect her and it DID make her reflect on her life, her behavior and how maybe how if she wasn't so self centered she could have probably spared Grace's life. Sami was NEVER the person that would 'want to embrace her dark side' and that is exactly who she's become....she was never a cheater and that is who she became.....she never wanted to be a mob wife but that is who she has become.....she castrated her first rapist and continued to sleep with her second one.........I don't see how anything post 2008 is keeping the character true to herself....at least with Lucas, Sami was still Sami..... My only saving grace is that with Sami's destruction has come the ability to finally be able to enjoy this show when she's gone......if you would have told me in 2005 that Sami was leaving I would have been really devastated. I'm relieved now....they can no longer write anything that would continue to harm her in my eyes...in that way I think you and I can relate a little....you probably feel that same way about EJ than I feel about Sami.
Yeah, we can agree on that. I feel that way about EJ and about Sami actually. Getting them off the canvas means no more writing destruction. I realize I shouldn't say that out loud. See Bo. See Jack. See any number of characters who have been off screen and appeared to be absent parents, absent spouses, doing walkabouts, etc...etc..... However, at least it can't be the heavy-handed type of stuff EJami has dealt with time and again. I know fans of other couples have felt the same way at times. It speaks to just how horrible the writing has become. As to the rest, it all comes down to personal preference. We could go round and round about what was in character or not, but it also has to do with what we like. Characters do new stuff. It happens. Just because Sami didn't do something before, she could do it now and be in character. If the writers give plausible reasons for it. That is where they fail. However, we all accept things if we like them. I didn't like how Sami was in Lumi (post Stan) and would argue that she was a character I no longer recognized. It all comes down to personal preference because we all have had to accept changes to our characters. Some are easier than others if they are in a pairing we like or story we like. I hope there is something for me to enjoy on this show after JS and AS depart. As of right now, it's looking pretty grim.
I agree on just because Sami wasnīt a mobwife material before EJ came to town doesnīt mean she canīt become one with the right writing. I think Sami having a bad side is a good start and if she met her dream man and he happend to be a mobster I could have seen her fighting her feelings for him but ultimately her feelings for him being to strong to deny so she decideds to be with him. I think it would have been interesting if Ejami wanted to be together but their different livesstyles kept tem apart and I think that would have been an interesting direction for the character. While I have liked Lumi a little bit I also agree on that I didnīt think she was in character with him they turned her into a good character.
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- LuvingLumi
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- S loves EJ
- May 16 2014, 03:26 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepwasn't their fault but Stefano Sami should grow up and realize that.
I'm not sure whether or not I think Sami fits as a mobwife. When she raped Austin and lied about Will's paternity she seemed to embrace her dark side to me and I think EJ's character reminded me a lot of Sami's character they both were constantly up to no good but EJ was worse since he was running around trying to kill people. Anyway it's not like Ejami has been written in a eay that I have wanted either. I didn't want EJ to fake Sydney's death or for Sami to shoot him etc. I don't think I would have written Sami as a mobwife either but as someone being attrative to EJ even though he was a mobster and trying to fight that attraction but it's to late to write it like that.
on the bolded, that is the ONE MAJOR reason why she should never ever trust ANYTHING Dimera.....and she continues to do so....
EJ isn't Stefano and I don't think he is as bad as him I think EJ is more grey, Or he definietly wouldn't have been as bad as him if things would have been written differently from the beginning.
In many ways EJ is worse than Stefano.
I donīt think EJ is worse than Stefano because I think he has more of a conscience and are redeemable. They have written EJ in different version though maybe the worse version is like Stefano but the version that he mostly been and therefore I consider the true version who is inlove with Samantha is not. Still what I meant to say is that Sami shouldnīt judge EJ for being a Dimera and Stefanoīs son but for his own actions now EJ has done enough on his own for her not to trust him, but I think if Ejami gets a happy ending it will be written as the Ejabby affair was just a mistake to EJ and that he is inlove with Sami, and I believe she can trust in him not cheating on her again since he is going to do everything to keep them together, and proove to her she is the woman he wants. He also changed in the way that he is at least better than before so I donīt see him hurting her again.
- Rosebud
- May 16 2014, 06:10 PM
- S loves EJ
- May 16 2014, 12:00 PM
I personally donīt think Ejami deserves a happy ending but their fans does.
I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
I'm not sure why you think their fans deserve a happy ever after. It's not as if Elvis and Sami are a long suffering SUPERCOUPLE that the majority have spent years rooting for. They are hardly a conventionally root-able couple that has overcome terrible odds to be together. It's not like they were on their way to being the next Tom and Alice. They'll probably get one, but I don't see why Lucas/Sami fans aren't more deserving of a happy ever after.
We donīt know which fanbase is the biggest but Ejami do have at least a rather large fanbase who has spent years rooting for them. I never said Lumi fans are not more deserving I donīt think anyone is more deserving than the other.
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May 17 2014, 03:42 AM
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Having these two exit HEA would be a huge letdown and quite frankly a waste of the writers last chance to squeeze some volatile drama from this pair. Putting Ej and Sami together over the last year hasn't made Days a better soap. It hasn't made Days a more interesting soap either. The most entertained I've been by Sami is when she and Kate were pushing Nick into the river and the subsequent cover-up - until Ej got involved and sapped the energy from the women. Ej and Sami together were at the most entertaining when the affair reveal came out and then that turned out to be a big fake out. I'd rather be spared seeing a HEA of any sort and instead have an honest montage of all the cruelty of their past. Let these two go finally acknowledging this relationship was not meant to be.
Absolutely! And if the affair comes out and it's not the final nail for the Ejami coffin, then show really has ruined the character Sami. How in the world she could EVER trust EJ again, that he was sleeping with another woman right under Sami's nose and his best excuse is because Sami withheld sex from him, something he could have fixed anytime by coming clean and exonerating her brother, THE RAPE VICTIM. During the time of the Ejabby affair and long after it's over, Sami doesn't have a clue that EJ has committed such a betrayal so how in the world can she ever be sure to spot the signs should he do it again? And then finally, the show had them planning and executing a death wish on someone else. Again, THAT IS WRONG. WHY DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? And Days is not the vehicle for me to support watching ANYONE carry that out (well maybe if they put a hit on Daniel). So why should Ejami get away with that. Just because its possible someone else may have pulled the trigger doesn't mean they have to answer for attempted murder. Just ask a certain Texas mother of a teenaged cheerleader wannabe.
I think there is a difference in what happens is real life and what is happening on a soap, but I can see how it can be argued that serious crimes should be taken more serious on soap than they have. Ejami isnīt the only one quilty of attempted murder though there are a lot of characters that are - Marlena, Will, Kate, Brady and Nicole, and they canīt throw everyone in jail because then it hardly would be any character left on the show. I never seen the godfather movies but I can see how people can enjoy watching a mafia family in a movie even if they would be horrible people in real life the same with Ejami.
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May 17 2014, 04:15 AM
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- May 17 2014, 03:42 AM
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Having these two exit HEA would be a huge letdown and quite frankly a waste of the writers last chance to squeeze some volatile drama from this pair. Putting Ej and Sami together over the last year hasn't made Days a better soap. It hasn't made Days a more interesting soap either. The most entertained I've been by Sami is when she and Kate were pushing Nick into the river and the subsequent cover-up - until Ej got involved and sapped the energy from the women. Ej and Sami together were at the most entertaining when the affair reveal came out and then that turned out to be a big fake out. I'd rather be spared seeing a HEA of any sort and instead have an honest montage of all the cruelty of their past. Let these two go finally acknowledging this relationship was not meant to be.
Absolutely! And if the affair comes out and it's not the final nail for the Ejami coffin, then show really has ruined the character Sami. How in the world she could EVER trust EJ again, that he was sleeping with another woman right under Sami's nose and his best excuse is because Sami withheld sex from him, something he could have fixed anytime by coming clean and exonerating her brother, THE RAPE VICTIM. During the time of the Ejabby affair and long after it's over, Sami doesn't have a clue that EJ has committed such a betrayal so how in the world can she ever be sure to spot the signs should he do it again? And then finally, the show had them planning and executing a death wish on someone else. Again, THAT IS WRONG. WHY DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? And Days is not the vehicle for me to support watching ANYONE carry that out (well maybe if they put a hit on Daniel). So why should Ejami get away with that. Just because its possible someone else may have pulled the trigger doesn't mean they have to answer for attempted murder. Just ask a certain Texas mother of a teenaged cheerleader wannabe.
I think there is a difference in what happens is real life and what is happening on a soap, but I can see how it can be argued that serious crimes should be taken more serious on soap than they have. Ejami isnīt the only one quilty of attempted murder though there are a lot of characters that are - Marlena, Will, Kate, Brady and Nicole, and they canīt throw everyone in jail because then it hardly would be any character left on the show. I never seen the godfather movies but I can see how people can enjoy watching a mafia family in a movie even if they would be horrible people in real life the same with Ejami. Mafia family or not doesn't matter, it's a soap opera and the main thing is intresting characters with charisma and personality who can demonstrate credibly that things are not black or white, and quite honestly EJ and Sami have personality and their life is full of drama and in addition they can bend the rules so to sum up, therefore, it is interesting TV with characters like them, morality vs. real life does not matter, it's a television show and stuff happens, to compare with real life feels strange because everyone knows that it is not real.
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May 17 2014, 06:07 AM
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I can see how maybe itīs wrong to pair a rapist with his victim but it doesnīt change that I happens to enjoy Ejami anyway, but leaving the rape issue aside when it comes to attempted murders I donīt think soap are much different than video games I kill people all the time playing my video games (I donīt like war games though but I donīt mind action games) but I can tell the different from what is real and what is fiction.
Anyway Iīm not against EJ going to jail even if I would prefer a HEA, but in case Ejami doesnīt get one Iīm not gonna be upset about it one because I donīt feel as strongly about Ejami as I use too but also because I know there is no gurantee that they get a HEA so I prepaired for an ending that I donīt like too. I canīt get my hopes up when I know there is no gurantee.
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May 17 2014, 03:22 PM
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- May 16 2014, 10:09 PM
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I can not wait to see those final scenes. I am excited so see how it all plays out. I love that AS gave a shout out to the Ejamis. Based on comments from both JS and AS, I have no doubt in my mind that we are get our HEA in some form. It is the journey that get us there that will full of twist and turns. I will both of JS and AS, but I am excited for them as they move on to bigger better things.
I don't think they'll move to bigger and better things...frankly I think they'll both be back within a year....
You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine. My opinion is both JS and AS will do new and exciting projects and I will be supporting them in every one of them. They may come back to Days for as short stint for the 50th anniversary, but I doubt it they will. I personally do not think Days will survive beyond that point anyway. The show is a sinking boat and Jamison were smart to get out before it is under water. Smart to jump off? They've been leading ans sinking this ship with front burner stories for years. Im hoping Days goes the GH route and gets better when they are gone.
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May 17 2014, 03:45 PM
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...... Just two actors and friends who watch out for each other.
Yes, I thought that was obvious. It is funny that she gave his interview. I guess he couldn't be bothered to talk to SOD anymore. I think she's going to get a talk show, too, but I think NBC will put it before or after Days, like ABC has done with The Chew and Katie. JS could go either way, but I don't think AS will be back, except in guest appearances.
There is absolutely no way that the NBC affiliates would give back an hour of lucrative ad rates to the network. NBC will be desperate to keep the one afternoon hour they schedule for DOOL. A handful of affiliates (Las Vegas comes immediately to mind) have already moved DOOL off the network and I am sure others are salivating at the revenue potential. If AS gets a chatshow, it will be syndicated.
NBC could own the hour like they do with the extended Today Show hours. A talk show would cost a fraction to produce that Days does and pull in more revenue. (How do you think Oprah became as rich as she is?) If soaps were more successful/profitable than talk shows you would see more than 3.5 hours of soaps in the 24 hours of daytime the major 3 networks have available between 9 & 5 each week. You would also see syndicated soaps like you do syndicated talk shows.
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May 17 2014, 03:53 PM
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Days is doing fine. It just got a 2 year renewal, it actually won an Emmy for best show last year (which means nothing to me, but seems to mean something to them), and soaps are having a bit of a resurrection. It won't last forever, but it's still what's happening right now. The show is not in a place right now where it's "smart" to leave. It's not necessarily dumb to leave, but no one is leaving a sinking ship. That was 2005. It's not some big insult to the show that two "major" actors are leaving. I don't like the show right now either, so I get it. But the show just isn't in that place right now no matter how badly we wish it were.
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May 17 2014, 05:21 PM
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Sweeney will continue to do her commercials and books about "kanines" and such, maybe a talk show that won't make it. Scott? If he does act again, my bet's another soap. That blinking thing he's got rather rules out prime time or movies, other than as an extra guy who blinks a lot and flails around for a few seconds, never to be seen again. I LMAO every time someone gushes that he should/will be the next James Bond!, that we'll be seeing him doing "bigger and better" acting things!, should play the lead! in that trade porn about grey colors.
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May 17 2014, 10:19 PM
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To me, it sounds like they're both actually just going to leave town and that's it. I see that too, but not an Ejami and never will be.
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May 17 2014, 11:50 PM
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When I say write true to character I meant Safe also....I didn't like who Sami became during the Safe years anymore than you did, but at least there was one significant moment during that time that would make Sami reflect and likely mature somewhat and 'change' a bit at least the explanation didn't have to be that far fetched....it still could have been explained a bit better, but Grace's death, DID affect her and it DID make her reflect on her life, her behavior and how maybe how if she wasn't so self centered she could have probably spared Grace's life. Sami was NEVER the person that would 'want to embrace her dark side' and that is exactly who she's become....she was never a cheater and that is who she became.....she never wanted to be a mob wife but that is who she has become.....she castrated her first rapist and continued to sleep with her second one.........I don't see how anything post 2008 is keeping the character true to herself....at least with Lucas, Sami was still Sami..... My only saving grace is that with Sami's destruction has come the ability to finally be able to enjoy this show when she's gone......if you would have told me in 2005 that Sami was leaving I would have been really devastated. I'm relieved now....they can no longer write anything that would continue to harm her in my eyes...in that way I think you and I can relate a little....you probably feel that same way about EJ than I feel about Sami.
Yeah, we can agree on that. I feel that way about EJ and about Sami actually. Getting them off the canvas means no more writing destruction. I realize I shouldn't say that out loud. See Bo. See Jack. See any number of characters who have been off screen and appeared to be absent parents, absent spouses, doing walkabouts, etc...etc..... However, at least it can't be the heavy-handed type of stuff EJami has dealt with time and again. I know fans of other couples have felt the same way at times. It speaks to just how horrible the writing has become. As to the rest, it all comes down to personal preference. We could go round and round about what was in character or not, but it also has to do with what we like. Characters do new stuff. It happens. Just because Sami didn't do something before, she could do it now and be in character. If the writers give plausible reasons for it. That is where they fail. However, we all accept things if we like them. I didn't like how Sami was in Lumi (post Stan) and would argue that she was a character I no longer recognized. It all comes down to personal preference because we all have had to accept changes to our characters. Some are easier than others if they are in a pairing we like or story we like. I hope there is something for me to enjoy on this show after JS and AS depart. As of right now, it's looking pretty grim.
I agree on just because Sami wasnīt a mobwife material before EJ came to town doesnīt mean she canīt become one with the right writing. I think Sami having a bad side is a good start and if she met her dream man and he happend to be a mobster I could have seen her fighting her feelings for him but ultimately her feelings for him being to strong to deny so she decideds to be with him. I think it would have been interesting if Ejami wanted to be together but their different livesstyles kept tem apart and I think that would have been an interesting direction for the character. While I have liked Lumi a little bit I also agree on that I didnīt think she was in character with him they turned her into a good character. - concerned
- May 16 2014, 05:40 PM
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- May 16 2014, 03:54 PM
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- May 16 2014, 03:36 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepwasn't their fault but Stefano
EJ isn't Stefano and I don't think he is as bad as him I think EJ is more grey, Or he definietly wouldn't have been as bad as him if things would have been written differently from the beginning.
In many ways EJ is worse than Stefano.
I donīt think EJ is worse than Stefano because I think he has more of a conscience and are redeemable. They have written EJ in different version though maybe the worse version is like Stefano but the version that he mostly been and therefore I consider the true version who is inlove with Samantha is not. Still what I meant to say is that Sami shouldnīt judge EJ for being a Dimera and Stefanoīs son but for his own actions now EJ has done enough on his own for her not to trust him, but I think if Ejami gets a happy ending it will be written as the Ejabby affair was just a mistake to EJ and that he is inlove with Sami, and I believe she can trust in him not cheating on her again since he is going to do everything to keep them together, and proove to her she is the woman he wants. He also changed in the way that he is at least better than before so I donīt see him hurting her again. - Rosebud
- May 16 2014, 06:10 PM
- S loves EJ
- May 16 2014, 12:00 PM
I personally donīt think Ejami deserves a happy ending but their fans does.
I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
I'm not sure why you think their fans deserve a happy ever after. It's not as if Elvis and Sami are a long suffering SUPERCOUPLE that the majority have spent years rooting for. They are hardly a conventionally root-able couple that has overcome terrible odds to be together. It's not like they were on their way to being the next Tom and Alice. They'll probably get one, but I don't see why Lucas/Sami fans aren't more deserving of a happy ever after.
We donīt know which fanbase is the biggest but Ejami do have at least a rather large fanbase who has spent years rooting for them. I never said Lumi fans are not more deserving I donīt think anyone is more deserving than the other. I think it is so simple that EJ came for Sami or rather was was created for Sami.lol and he leaving with this woman, but who knows :)
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May 18 2014, 12:35 AM
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Yeah, we can agree on that. I feel that way about EJ and about Sami actually. Getting them off the canvas means no more writing destruction. I realize I shouldn't say that out loud. See Bo. See Jack. See any number of characters who have been off screen and appeared to be absent parents, absent spouses, doing walkabouts, etc...etc..... However, at least it can't be the heavy-handed type of stuff EJami has dealt with time and again. I know fans of other couples have felt the same way at times. It speaks to just how horrible the writing has become. As to the rest, it all comes down to personal preference. We could go round and round about what was in character or not, but it also has to do with what we like. Characters do new stuff. It happens. Just because Sami didn't do something before, she could do it now and be in character. If the writers give plausible reasons for it. That is where they fail. However, we all accept things if we like them. I didn't like how Sami was in Lumi (post Stan) and would argue that she was a character I no longer recognized. It all comes down to personal preference because we all have had to accept changes to our characters. Some are easier than others if they are in a pairing we like or story we like. I hope there is something for me to enjoy on this show after JS and AS depart. As of right now, it's looking pretty grim.
I agree on just because Sami wasnīt a mobwife material before EJ came to town doesnīt mean she canīt become one with the right writing. I think Sami having a bad side is a good start and if she met her dream man and he happend to be a mobster I could have seen her fighting her feelings for him but ultimately her feelings for him being to strong to deny so she decideds to be with him. I think it would have been interesting if Ejami wanted to be together but their different livesstyles kept tem apart and I think that would have been an interesting direction for the character. While I have liked Lumi a little bit I also agree on that I didnīt think she was in character with him they turned her into a good character. - concerned
- May 16 2014, 05:40 PM
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- May 16 2014, 03:54 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepwasn't their fault but Stefano
In many ways EJ is worse than Stefano.
I donīt think EJ is worse than Stefano because I think he has more of a conscience and are redeemable. They have written EJ in different version though maybe the worse version is like Stefano but the version that he mostly been and therefore I consider the true version who is inlove with Samantha is not. Still what I meant to say is that Sami shouldnīt judge EJ for being a Dimera and Stefanoīs son but for his own actions now EJ has done enough on his own for her not to trust him, but I think if Ejami gets a happy ending it will be written as the Ejabby affair was just a mistake to EJ and that he is inlove with Sami, and I believe she can trust in him not cheating on her again since he is going to do everything to keep them together, and proove to her she is the woman he wants. He also changed in the way that he is at least better than before so I donīt see him hurting her again. - Rosebud
- May 16 2014, 06:10 PM
- S loves EJ
- May 16 2014, 12:00 PM
I personally donīt think Ejami deserves a happy ending but their fans does.
I donīt think Ejamis deserves special treatment but I think they deserve to get what they want just as much as anyone else but itīs impossible to please everyone, but maybe Lucas fans will get what they deserve if they give Lucas a story this fall.
I'm not sure why you think their fans deserve a happy ever after. It's not as if Elvis and Sami are a long suffering SUPERCOUPLE that the majority have spent years rooting for. They are hardly a conventionally root-able couple that has overcome terrible odds to be together. It's not like they were on their way to being the next Tom and Alice. They'll probably get one, but I don't see why Lucas/Sami fans aren't more deserving of a happy ever after.
We donīt know which fanbase is the biggest but Ejami do have at least a rather large fanbase who has spent years rooting for them. I never said Lumi fans are not more deserving I donīt think anyone is more deserving than the other.
I think it is so simple that EJ came for Sami or rather was was created for Sami.lol and he leaving with this woman, but who knows :) Idk if they'll leave together or not, though I tend to think they will, but how they leave isn't going to be at all relevant to how EJ was brought in or why he was brought in (which I think is different from what you think). There've been so many writing regimes and production changes since the character was introduced that one thing has nothing to do with the other.
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May 18 2014, 06:49 AM
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- May 16 2014, 05:16 PM
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I agree on just because Sami wasnīt a mobwife material before EJ came to town doesnīt mean she canīt become one with the right writing. I think Sami having a bad side is a good start and if she met her dream man and he happend to be a mobster I could have seen her fighting her feelings for him but ultimately her feelings for him being to strong to deny so she decideds to be with him. I think it would have been interesting if Ejami wanted to be together but their different livesstyles kept tem apart and I think that would have been an interesting direction for the character. While I have liked Lumi a little bit I also agree on that I didnīt think she was in character with him they turned her into a good character. - concerned
- May 16 2014, 05:40 PM
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I donīt think EJ is worse than Stefano because I think he has more of a conscience and are redeemable. They have written EJ in different version though maybe the worse version is like Stefano but the version that he mostly been and therefore I consider the true version who is inlove with Samantha is not. Still what I meant to say is that Sami shouldnīt judge EJ for being a Dimera and Stefanoīs son but for his own actions now EJ has done enough on his own for her not to trust him, but I think if Ejami gets a happy ending it will be written as the Ejabby affair was just a mistake to EJ and that he is inlove with Sami, and I believe she can trust in him not cheating on her again since he is going to do everything to keep them together, and proove to her she is the woman he wants. He also changed in the way that he is at least better than before so I donīt see him hurting her again. - Rosebud
- May 16 2014, 06:10 PM
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We donīt know which fanbase is the biggest but Ejami do have at least a rather large fanbase who has spent years rooting for them. I never said Lumi fans are not more deserving I donīt think anyone is more deserving than the other.
I think it is so simple that EJ came for Sami or rather was was created for Sami.lol and he leaving with this woman, but who knows :)
Idk if they'll leave together or not, though I tend to think they will, but how they leave isn't going to be at all relevant to how EJ was brought in or why he was brought in (which I think is different from what you think). There've been so many writing regimes and production changes since the character was introduced that one thing has nothing to do with the other. THANK YOU. I don't even know why people try to argue the personalities of these characters when nothing is consistent. They don't HAVE thought processes. If the writing was character driven, with semi-consistent writers,it would be one thing. But they haven't. And all we have is what we have been "told". If we are "told" how these characters are supposed to be feeling or what they believe, then actors and writers are not doing their jobs. And all we can do is judge on what we like and frankly, what we HOPE is what is supposed to be believed, or our reaction to the dialogue and the acting. And often, I've seen what is "told" to us is not what is coming across to me on the screen. Same thing with the Nick arguments. I had always chosen to believe that EJ and Sami are just not consistent. Because that's what I see.
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May 18 2014, 03:34 PM
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- May 16 2014, 06:55 AM
Can't wait until these two leave. :bye: It will be SO good to watch without fast-forwarding through all their ridiculous scenes! :cheer:
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May 18 2014, 04:37 PM
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Having these two exit HEA would be a huge letdown and quite frankly a waste of the writers last chance to squeeze some volatile drama from this pair. Putting Ej and Sami together over the last year hasn't made Days a better soap. It hasn't made Days a more interesting soap either. The most entertained I've been by Sami is when she and Kate were pushing Nick into the river and the subsequent cover-up - until Ej got involved and sapped the energy from the women. Ej and Sami together were at the most entertaining when the affair reveal came out and then that turned out to be a big fake out. I'd rather be spared seeing a HEA of any sort and instead have an honest montage of all the cruelty of their past. Let these two go finally acknowledging this relationship was not meant to be.
Absolutely! And if the affair comes out and it's not the final nail for the Ejami coffin, then show really has ruined the character Sami. How in the world she could EVER trust EJ again, that he was sleeping with another woman right under Sami's nose and his best excuse is because Sami withheld sex from him, something he could have fixed anytime by coming clean and exonerating her brother, THE RAPE VICTIM. During the time of the Ejabby affair and long after it's over, Sami doesn't have a clue that EJ has committed such a betrayal so how in the world can she ever be sure to spot the signs should he do it again? And then finally, the show had them planning and executing a death wish on someone else. Again, THAT IS WRONG. WHY DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? And Days is not the vehicle for me to support watching ANYONE carry that out (well maybe if they put a hit on Daniel). So why should Ejami get away with that. Just because its possible someone else may have pulled the trigger doesn't mean they have to answer for attempted murder. Just ask a certain Texas mother of a teenaged cheerleader wannabe. I guess I don't see what the problem is with EJ & Sami planning a murder Since it is a Soap Opera & they are not real people LoL :shrug:
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May 18 2014, 04:41 PM
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I think it is so simple that EJ came for Sami or rather was was created for Sami.lol and he leaving with this woman, but who knows :)
Idk if they'll leave together or not, though I tend to think they will, but how they leave isn't going to be at all relevant to how EJ was brought in or why he was brought in (which I think is different from what you think). There've been so many writing regimes and production changes since the character was introduced that one thing has nothing to do with the other.
THANK YOU. I don't even know why people try to argue the personalities of these characters when nothing is consistent. They don't HAVE thought processes. If the writing was character driven, with semi-consistent writers,it would be one thing. But they haven't. And all we have is what we have been "told". If we are "told" how these characters are supposed to be feeling or what they believe, then actors and writers are not doing their jobs. And all we can do is judge on what we like and frankly, what we HOPE is what is supposed to be believed, or our reaction to the dialogue and the acting. And often, I've seen what is "told" to us is not what is coming across to me on the screen. Same thing with the Nick arguments. I had always chosen to believe that EJ and Sami are just not consistent. Because that's what I see. Well IMHO the one consistent thing about Days lately Is the writing for a lot of the characters isn't consistent. Writing to fit the plot
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May 18 2014, 04:58 PM
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Having these two exit HEA would be a huge letdown and quite frankly a waste of the writers last chance to squeeze some volatile drama from this pair. Putting Ej and Sami together over the last year hasn't made Days a better soap. It hasn't made Days a more interesting soap either. The most entertained I've been by Sami is when she and Kate were pushing Nick into the river and the subsequent cover-up - until Ej got involved and sapped the energy from the women. Ej and Sami together were at the most entertaining when the affair reveal came out and then that turned out to be a big fake out. I'd rather be spared seeing a HEA of any sort and instead have an honest montage of all the cruelty of their past. Let these two go finally acknowledging this relationship was not meant to be.
Absolutely! And if the affair comes out and it's not the final nail for the Ejami coffin, then show really has ruined the character Sami. How in the world she could EVER trust EJ again, that he was sleeping with another woman right under Sami's nose and his best excuse is because Sami withheld sex from him, something he could have fixed anytime by coming clean and exonerating her brother, THE RAPE VICTIM. During the time of the Ejabby affair and long after it's over, Sami doesn't have a clue that EJ has committed such a betrayal so how in the world can she ever be sure to spot the signs should he do it again? And then finally, the show had them planning and executing a death wish on someone else. Again, THAT IS WRONG. WHY DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? And Days is not the vehicle for me to support watching ANYONE carry that out (well maybe if they put a hit on Daniel). So why should Ejami get away with that. Just because its possible someone else may have pulled the trigger doesn't mean they have to answer for attempted murder. Just ask a certain Texas mother of a teenaged cheerleader wannabe.
I guess I don't see what the problem is with EJ & Sami planning a murder Since it is a Soap Opera & they are not real people LoL :shrug: I'm not sure what this real people argument is suppose to mean. I don't think anyone that watches a soap thinks they're watching a reality show or documentary. Just because it's fictional doesn't negate what the characters do and what viewers think of them, and how they judge them. Are we suppose to think it's okay for a show to portray rape as romantic, or that it's okay to sweep a rape under the carpet and pretend a character didn't commit the crime because it's a fictional rape? :shrug:
If this show thinks that Sami and Elvis are a romantic couple, and that portraying them as such by having them plan on murdering someone and then riding off into the sunset for a happily ever after, they're trying to sell a rotten apple wrapped in a fancy box with a bow on it.
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May 18 2014, 05:09 PM
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I guess what I'd like to see happen is after all the Ejabby stuff comes out, that EJ and Sami do get married. Even though I don't like the couple that way the Ejami fans get something to enjoy. Then later it comes out about EJ hiring the hitman to kill Nick. Even though the hitman didn't do the actual killing, solicitation to commit murder is still a major crime. EJ goes to prison and has to pay for at least one of the many crimes he has committed over the years. Sami's part is kept secret and she decides to leave town for awhile with her kids. Somehow Lucas learns about Sam also being involved in hiring the hitman and he refuses to let Sami take Allie with her. Sami leaves but Allie stays in Salem with Lucas.
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May 18 2014, 05:12 PM
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- May 17 2014, 05:21 PM
h, maybe a talk show that won't make it. Scott? If he does act again, my bet's another soap. That blinking thing he's got rather rules out prime time or movies, other than as an extra guy who blinks a lot and flails around for a few seconds, never to be seen again. I LMAO every time someone gushes that he should/will be the next James Bond!, that we'll be seeing him doing "bigger and better" acting things!, should play the lead! in that trade porn about grey colors. James Scott is a horrible actor. He may get a few bit parts as the "hot guy" in some party, but never a lead role in primetime or the movies. He just doesn't have the talent--and there are PLENTY of other handsome dudes more than capable for roles.
He'll go into oblivion. . and show up back on DAYS when cash gets low.
The Sween will do just fine regardless. TV only though.
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May 18 2014, 06:03 PM
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Having these two exit HEA would be a huge letdown and quite frankly a waste of the writers last chance to squeeze some volatile drama from this pair. Putting Ej and Sami together over the last year hasn't made Days a better soap. It hasn't made Days a more interesting soap either. The most entertained I've been by Sami is when she and Kate were pushing Nick into the river and the subsequent cover-up - until Ej got involved and sapped the energy from the women. Ej and Sami together were at the most entertaining when the affair reveal came out and then that turned out to be a big fake out. I'd rather be spared seeing a HEA of any sort and instead have an honest montage of all the cruelty of their past. Let these two go finally acknowledging this relationship was not meant to be.
Absolutely! And if the affair comes out and it's not the final nail for the Ejami coffin, then show really has ruined the character Sami. How in the world she could EVER trust EJ again, that he was sleeping with another woman right under Sami's nose and his best excuse is because Sami withheld sex from him, something he could have fixed anytime by coming clean and exonerating her brother, THE RAPE VICTIM. During the time of the Ejabby affair and long after it's over, Sami doesn't have a clue that EJ has committed such a betrayal so how in the world can she ever be sure to spot the signs should he do it again? And then finally, the show had them planning and executing a death wish on someone else. Again, THAT IS WRONG. WHY DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? And Days is not the vehicle for me to support watching ANYONE carry that out (well maybe if they put a hit on Daniel). So why should Ejami get away with that. Just because its possible someone else may have pulled the trigger doesn't mean they have to answer for attempted murder. Just ask a certain Texas mother of a teenaged cheerleader wannabe.
I guess I don't see what the problem is with EJ & Sami planning a murder Since it is a Soap Opera & they are not real people LoL :shrug:
I'm not sure what this real people argument is suppose to mean. I don't think anyone that watches a soap thinks they're watching a reality show or documentary. Just because it's fictional doesn't negate what the characters do and what viewers think of them, and how they judge them. Are we suppose to think it's okay for a show to portray rape as romantic, or that it's okay to sweep a rape under the carpet and pretend a character didn't commit the crime because it's a fictional rape? :shrug: If this show thinks that Sami and Elvis are a romantic couple, and that portraying them as such by having them plan on murdering someone and then riding off into the sunset for a happily ever after, they're trying to sell a rotten apple wrapped in a fancy box with a bow on it. On the bold, yes it does. Which is why the show knows EJ and Sami are a romantic couple to a significant portion of the audience, and why it's not concerned that people would think they were trying to make rape romantic. One good thing about JS and AS leaving is the end of that argument.
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May 18 2014, 06:06 PM
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It could easily be done. AS & JS film their final scene/s and JS leaves. AS stays for goodbye scenes with Sami's family.
God I am groaning at the agony of the thought of watching that already. 3 weeks of Sami running around Salem saying her goodbyes. Think it's the perfect opportunity to book in a trip to Peru.
No need to go to Peru.Just fly to Colorado or Washington and stay for a week. Peru is closer.....Mate.
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