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Monday, May 19th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: May 19 2014, 02:03 AM (15,215 Views)
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May 19 2014, 04:51 PM
While I love Hope when she does this with the bad guys and Sami... sometimes (and this is probably my only criticism of Kristian's acting choices ever) I think she should dial it back a bit with other suspects.
She just goes a little too hard.
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BeeBee


I am happy there is more Hope but I wish they had her paired with Abe instead of having her be the detective in charge of the case since
Abe's only family connection would be as former brother in law of EJ.
I don't know if Allie would remember or understand what EJ did to Sami.I wondered about EJ rather than Marlena being the person who hugged Allie and calmed her fears then I realized Allie has likely spent more time with EJ than she has with Marlena.Allie looked atleast a foot taller than Johnny,as much as possible the show should avoid having them stand side by side.
I was surprised when the hitman asked if Sami knew who he was since I don't recall seeing or hearing anythng that would give him basis for the conclusion that Sami was aware that EJ hired him to kill Nick.I was also suprised when Sami said yes since she apparently did not know of his existence until EJ took the telephone number and money out of the safe.I do like that the writers gave the hitman a plausible reason for returning the money.
I still don't see that the relationship between Paige and JJ has progressed to the stage that she could reasonably be offended because JJ did not want to tell her specifically what was bothering him.Given that this was supposedly their first real date,she should respect the fact that he might not want to share some things with her without knowing her a little better.
I hate what the writers have done to Nicole but I must admit in my opinion their scenes were the best love scenes on the show since those with EJ and Abby.I meant to ask this last week but can anyone tell whether or not Nicole is wearing leather pants? I really like her outfit.
I don't like how Brady is treating John but I am just happy that John is being used.I see him the same way I saw Lucas.As long as they are in Salem,I can hope for them to get a story,perhaps even a good story,therefore,I am not going to complain too much about what they are writing for him at this point.John storyline will likely pick up when Kristen returns and there will likely be more for Marlena at that time as well.
I like Brady with Theresa because for the most part they see each other more clearly than others see them.Brady knows his money is part of her attraction to him as shown by him buying the expensive purse he saw her admire and giving it to her as a gift.While I find that JJ can hold his own with Theresa in their interactions I think Theresa is too old for JJ at this point.I don't have a prolem with age differences between adults once the parties involved are atleast twenty.
Edited by BeeBee, May 19 2014, 05:16 PM.
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May 19 2014, 03:28 PM
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May 19 2014, 03:23 PM
AmbernOK
May 19 2014, 01:48 PM
The evidence crap was stupid and uncalled for, but today's scenes were great! Nicole tried to tell him the truth, but Eric was just saying all the right things and doing the right things....can't blame the poor girl for that! He was ALL OVER HER!

No couple on this show right now isn't tainted so why such a fuss about Ericole? They are not perfect, and I never expected them to be. So, if this was all to just get Nicole pregnant and Eric be the Father...bring it!!!





This problem is they are ruining Nicole. She has always been one of my favorites and I don't like her very much right now. I normally root for her even when she is in the wrong, but this time is different. They were building up a really good story and totally ruined it. Not only does Nicole irritate me now, but Eric has been a total bore. He was more interesting when he was a priest. They need to fix this crap!





And maybe this next arc will be better, because there is no way it could be any worse! I hate what they did to Nicole as well, but it's not like they can rewrite it now. Just have to move forward and pray it's gets better!
Once burned, twice shy. I can't even get myself to get excited over the pictures. Anytime the writing does improve, there is a history of that "improvement" being inconsistent. It's going to take an awful lot for me to trust them. I can enjoy individual, sporadic opportunities, but since I really like character development and not plot devices, I can't get myself to enjoy this. I don't even think AZ's acting is up to par like it was. VERY disappointed.
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May 19 2014, 05:14 PM

I was surprised when the hitman asked if Sami knew who he was since I don't recall seeing or hearing anythng that would give him basis for the conclusion that Sami was aware that EJ hired him to kill Nick.I was also suprised when Sami said yes since she apparently did not know of his existence until EJ took the telephone number and money out of the safe.I do like that the writers gave the hitman a plausible reason for returning the money.
You know what would impress me.

If the writers had EJ realise Sami was a loose cannon and have him pay a fake hitman to contact her and then give the money back just so she thinks they aren't responsible.

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concerned
May 19 2014, 04:33 PM
But the music was good / better.
I will give them that! The music was soft and sweet. Actually Rafe and Jordan's lovemaking music after Rafe dined and danced her into staying was pleasant too. I hope this is a sign that we've heard the last of the porno tunes. I hated the way those songs killed the vibe the actors were trying so hard to create.

I'm still disappointed that after all this time this is when they chose to have Ericole make love. Why not have him succumb to passion as a priest and make the story from that? It would have been sexy and full of angst too. Both Nicole and Eric would have had major hurdles to overcome that could have made compelling story. This is a miserable way to go.
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concerned
May 19 2014, 05:12 PM
Supergirlx2
May 19 2014, 04:51 PM
While I love Hope when she does this with the bad guys and Sami... sometimes (and this is probably my only criticism of Kristian's acting choices ever) I think she should dial it back a bit with other suspects.
She just goes a little too hard.
I still stand by my belief that Hope's going OTT because she fears that she'll become emotional if she doesn't. She's overcompensating to keep her feelings inside. And I think she's starting to get annoyed that everyone she's interviewed has tried to lie to her about something. I also think her guilt about putting off talking to Nick is driving her desire to solve the case.
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BeeBee
May 19 2014, 05:14 PM
I was surprised when the hitman asked if Sami knew who he was since I don't recall seeing or hearing anythng that would give him basis for the conclusion that Sami was aware that EJ hired him to kill Nick.I was also suprised when Sami said yes since she apparently did not know of his existence until EJ took the telephone number and money out of the safe.
Sami walked in on the end of E.J.'s first meeting with the hit man. She saw the hit man, and the hit man knows that she saw him. She wanted to go after the hit man and tell him that she and E.J. had changed their minds about hiring him to kill Nick, but E.J. told her that it was too late to do so.
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May 19 2014, 05:30 PM
concerned
May 19 2014, 05:12 PM
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May 19 2014, 04:51 PM
While I love Hope when she does this with the bad guys and Sami... sometimes (and this is probably my only criticism of Kristian's acting choices ever) I think she should dial it back a bit with other suspects.
She just goes a little too hard.
I still stand by my belief that Hope's going OTT because she fears that she'll become emotional if she doesn't. She's overcompensating to keep her feelings inside. And I think she's starting to get annoyed that everyone she's interviewed has tried to lie to her about something. I also think her guilt about putting off talking to Nick is driving her desire to solve the case.
I hadn't thought of it like that. That makes it better.
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May 19 2014, 05:30 PM
concerned
May 19 2014, 05:12 PM
Supergirlx2
May 19 2014, 04:51 PM
While I love Hope when she does this with the bad guys and Sami... sometimes (and this is probably my only criticism of Kristian's acting choices ever) I think she should dial it back a bit with other suspects.
She just goes a little too hard.
I still stand by my belief that Hope's going OTT because she fears that she'll become emotional if she doesn't. She's overcompensating to keep her feelings inside. And I think she's starting to get annoyed that everyone she's interviewed has tried to lie to her about something. I also think her guilt about putting off talking to Nick is driving her desire to solve the case.
That's why she has no business investigating this murder. It clouds her professional judgment and it makes her look bad. I have great respect for Rafe for recognizing that he's too close to this murder to be an objective detective. Hope has shown time and again that she's taking this too personally and it's clouding her objectivity. As a police officer you're there for the public not to assuage your guilt over your murdered cousin.
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May 19 2014, 05:40 PM
Supergirlx2
May 19 2014, 05:30 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:12 PM
Supergirlx2
May 19 2014, 04:51 PM
While I love Hope when she does this with the bad guys and Sami... sometimes (and this is probably my only criticism of Kristian's acting choices ever) I think she should dial it back a bit with other suspects.
She just goes a little too hard.
I still stand by my belief that Hope's going OTT because she fears that she'll become emotional if she doesn't. She's overcompensating to keep her feelings inside. And I think she's starting to get annoyed that everyone she's interviewed has tried to lie to her about something. I also think her guilt about putting off talking to Nick is driving her desire to solve the case.
I hadn't thought of it like that. That makes it better.
I could be completely wrong, but that's my interpretation of how Kristian's playing Hope in these scenes.
We'll see what happens tomorrow
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concerned
May 19 2014, 04:29 PM
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May 19 2014, 04:28 PM
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May 19 2014, 12:44 PM
imo, Nick's murder would be the perfect opportunity to introduce a new cop character to investigate & interact with other characters
Um... or they could have just used Abe or Roman........?
With Sami and Will as two of the major suspects along with work colleague Rafe, Roman's probably not a great choice either.

Bring back Tek.
Yes, that's exactly what this show needs, another light-skinned African American himbo model who can't act! LOL, but you're right, it would be nice to have a couple generic doctors, lawyers and cops with no ties to other characters or core families.
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Kaha
May 19 2014, 05:50 PM
Supergirlx2
May 19 2014, 05:30 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:12 PM
Supergirlx2
May 19 2014, 04:51 PM
While I love Hope when she does this with the bad guys and Sami... sometimes (and this is probably my only criticism of Kristian's acting choices ever) I think she should dial it back a bit with other suspects.
She just goes a little too hard.
I still stand by my belief that Hope's going OTT because she fears that she'll become emotional if she doesn't. She's overcompensating to keep her feelings inside. And I think she's starting to get annoyed that everyone she's interviewed has tried to lie to her about something. I also think her guilt about putting off talking to Nick is driving her desire to solve the case.
That's why she has no business investigating this murder. It clouds her professional judgment and it makes her look bad. I have great respect for Rafe for recognizing that he's too close to this murder to be an objective detective. Hope has shown time and again that she's taking this too personally and it's clouding her objectivity. As a police officer you're there for the public not to assuage your guilt over your murdered cousin.
But it's a soap. Everyone's related to everyone. And every case has been investigated by people who were related to at least one suspect. If Hope, Rafe, AND Roman all recused themselves, who would investigate Nick's murder?
GH runs into the same "conflict of interest" issues when people are arrested.
Ultimately, soap operas are not meant to be realistic. They never have been.
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May 19 2014, 04:33 PM
But the music was good / better.
I haven't watched today's episode yet, does that mean they stopped playing that horrible pan flute smooth jazz shit on a loop at Club TBD?
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May 19 2014, 06:02 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:50 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:30 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:12 PM

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I still stand by my belief that Hope's going OTT because she fears that she'll become emotional if she doesn't. She's overcompensating to keep her feelings inside. And I think she's starting to get annoyed that everyone she's interviewed has tried to lie to her about something. I also think her guilt about putting off talking to Nick is driving her desire to solve the case.
That's why she has no business investigating this murder. It clouds her professional judgment and it makes her look bad. I have great respect for Rafe for recognizing that he's too close to this murder to be an objective detective. Hope has shown time and again that she's taking this too personally and it's clouding her objectivity. As a police officer you're there for the public not to assuage your guilt over your murdered cousin.
But it's a soap. Everyone's related to everyone. And every case has been investigated by people who were related to at least one suspect. If Hope, Rafe, AND Roman all recused themselves, who would investigate Nick's murder?
GH runs into the same "conflict of interest" issues when people are arrested.
Ultimately, soap operas are not meant to be realistic. They never have been.
I hate GH's police. I hate them more than I hate the mobsters. They're incompetent and unprofessional. Anna DeVane is a disgrace as a Police Commissioner. PCPD is more cartoonish than Salem PD. I hate that they waste the awesome Finola Hughes on the crap they have her do.

I think they should've brought in a dayplayer (or weeks maybe) to investigate this murder. They should've let Hope doing her own investigation while clashing with the new investigative team. She could even solve the murder mystery. If they didn't want to hire another actor, then they should've made Hope more professional and less biased.
Edited by Kaha, May 19 2014, 07:01 PM.
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i love how Hope is zeroing in on Lucas b/c he was "the only one in the square with a criminal record using deadly force", meanwhile Sami, EJ, and Kate were there, lol. What, b/c they weren't convicted of shooting anyone, they don't count?

Edit: not to MENTION the numerous people outside the square at the time of the shooting who could have committed the crime.
Edited by blueskies, May 19 2014, 07:04 PM.
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Supergirlx2
May 19 2014, 06:02 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:50 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:30 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:12 PM

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I still stand by my belief that Hope's going OTT because she fears that she'll become emotional if she doesn't. She's overcompensating to keep her feelings inside. And I think she's starting to get annoyed that everyone she's interviewed has tried to lie to her about something. I also think her guilt about putting off talking to Nick is driving her desire to solve the case.
That's why she has no business investigating this murder. It clouds her professional judgment and it makes her look bad. I have great respect for Rafe for recognizing that he's too close to this murder to be an objective detective. Hope has shown time and again that she's taking this too personally and it's clouding her objectivity. As a police officer you're there for the public not to assuage your guilt over your murdered cousin.
But it's a soap. Everyone's related to everyone. And every case has been investigated by people who were related to at least one suspect. If Hope, Rafe, AND Roman all recused themselves, who would investigate Nick's murder?
Abe. He handled the Bernardi investigation, and there's really no reason why he shouldn't be the one handling this investigation, too, even if Hope's fans are happy that she's getting airtime and that they get to see a lot of her in cop mode during this story.

(Not that I blame anyone for being happy that one of their favorites is getting airtime. I completely understand that. However, I do agree that Hope really shouldn't be handling this investigation, and I don't think that it's fair to play the "that's just how soaps are" card, because Days does have a much more impartial person on the police force who could be handling this investigation. And we just saw them bring in a new doctor to handle Nick's operation and declare his time of death, so it's not like they can't go that route when they want to, either. But I'd rather have Abe handle the investigation than a Melinda 2.0 caricature. That woman was awful.)
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I agree with whoever said that JJ and Theresa have chemistry - they sizzle!
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I agree with whoever said that JJ and Theresa have chemistry - they sizzle!


word. Some of us have been saying JJ has not been acting like himself and then the writers had Tersa say it and it clearly affected JJ on his date with Paige
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May 19 2014, 05:38 PM
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May 19 2014, 05:14 PM
I was surprised when the hitman asked if Sami knew who he was since I don't recall seeing or hearing anythng that would give him basis for the conclusion that Sami was aware that EJ hired him to kill Nick.I was also suprised when Sami said yes since she apparently did not know of his existence until EJ took the telephone number and money out of the safe.
Sami walked in on the end of E.J.'s first meeting with the hit man. She saw the hit man, and the hit man knows that she saw him. She wanted to go after the hit man and tell him that she and E.J. had changed their minds about hiring him to kill Nick, but E.J. told her that it was too late to do so.
Thanks for jogging my memory.I had completely forgotten Sami running to stop EJ after Allie said Nick was her favorite cousin but I thought the hitman walked away from EJ and had actually left EJ's immediate vicinity by the time Sami reached EJ and he told her it was too late to stop the hit.I don't recall the hitman looking back toward EJ and Sami.Even if he looked back was he close enough to hear what Sami said to EJ giving him reason to know that she was aware that he was the hitman.I will rewatch the episode later.
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