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Tuesday, May 20th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: May 19 2014, 11:06 PM (14,228 Views)
leela46
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Mitchapalooza
May 20 2014, 01:19 PM
I like Haiden...but I just cannot fully get on board until the issue with Bo is fully cleared up...I still feel like Hope is just treading water at this point.

I don't know if the show just wants me to "forget" Bo after a certain amount of time...or are they going to finally explain how Hope can move on with Aiden?

They are the only couple that is likable right now...every other pairing on this show drives me to the point of drinking.
Yeah I do feel that Bo needs to be dealt with before Hope can really move on with Aiden. I don't think Bo necessarily needs to be killed off. I'd be fine with Hope deciding to divorce Bo in order to move on with her life. But I don't think Hope can fully commit herself to another man until the Bo situation is resolved.
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Lil
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am103
May 20 2014, 02:22 AM
Also, if there was anything worse than how Carly was written in 2011, it was how Hope was written in 2009/2010. She was totally intolerable, and I found myself actually rooting for Carly over Hope.

The ONLY good part about Hope during that time period was the Nighttime Hope storyline, because that was so fun and crazy and different.
lol It's so sad that I miss this crap compared to what's happening currently lol
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lysie


Lil
May 20 2014, 01:32 PM
am103
May 20 2014, 02:22 AM
Also, if there was anything worse than how Carly was written in 2011, it was how Hope was written in 2009/2010. She was totally intolerable, and I found myself actually rooting for Carly over Hope.

The ONLY good part about Hope during that time period was the Nighttime Hope storyline, because that was so fun and crazy and different.
lol It's so sad that I miss this crap compared to what's happening currently lol
Until the end, Higley was at least snarkable.
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jewlmc
May 20 2014, 12:50 PM
Kaha
May 20 2014, 12:48 PM
I am seriously sick of Eric and his God's will lunacy. And did God want you to have a pre-marital sex, Father Fallen?
Yeah. How dare he have beliefs?
There's no problem with him having beliefs as long as he actually follows them. Which he doesn't. Even before he stopped being a priest he was really judgmental and unforgiving which, okay, people are human, but it surprised me that someone who considered himself to be a man of God went against two of the main tenets of Christianity - love and forgiveness.

The sex thing is a problem because he's told us repeatedly that he wants to hold to the Catholic church's beliefs, which include no premarital sex. And then he goes and has sex with Nicole because she's feeling bad about herself, and he doesn't regret it and suddenly those once upon a time very important beliefs went out the window and weren't "important."

The problem isn't the beliefs themselves (which I thought would make for a very interesting story and give us lots of sexual angst and chemistry since they couldn't actually do anything, but of course, TomSell live to disappoint and squander every story opportunity), but that they're making Eric flaky and uncaring about things that used to be at the center of his life. If they'd bothered to show him having a crisis of faith or deciding that as long as they were engaged it was good enough or something, it'd at least make more sense. But instead, he throws away his values and sleeps with Nicole so that she won't be upset about whatever it is she's upset about that Eric didn't bother finding out more about.

It's all a plot point to make him more mad at the end when Nicole's lies are revealed - and he'll suddenly be super religious again and angry at her for violating his beliefs and making him have sex with her by manipulating him or something like that.
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Honeybees
May 20 2014, 11:35 AM
Aiden is making his case to Hope. She is not on board with his plan as it is non criminal deceit. Aiden says they are canceling an gambling event to help children. However, Howell doesn't fall for Aiden's plan and Aiden is not done. This is probably the highlight of the show. Hope thinks it's funny.
Why does Aiden only appear in Fetch episodes? Dammit
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So what are they going to do with Brady and Theresa when Kristen gets back? Because Kristen vs Theresa would be a joke. Like Godzilla swatting an irritating gnat.
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am103
May 20 2014, 02:22 AM
Also, if there was anything worse than how Carly was written in 2011, it was how Hope was written in 2009/2010. She was totally intolerable, and I found myself actually rooting for Carly over Hope.

The ONLY good part about Hope during that time period was the Nighttime Hope storyline, because that was so fun and crazy and different.
Bo was written completely OOC in 2009/2010. For the first time ever, I didn't recognize him.

Everyone was written bad. The show was weird and Carly who was originally written as a heroine didn't come close to being one in the return. Nothing about her was rootable.

I hated how Mel's paternity was changed to fit Carly's return. She represents a lot of bad things the show did in the span of 2008-2011. lol
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lysie
May 20 2014, 01:40 PM
Lil
May 20 2014, 01:32 PM
am103
May 20 2014, 02:22 AM
Also, if there was anything worse than how Carly was written in 2011, it was how Hope was written in 2009/2010. She was totally intolerable, and I found myself actually rooting for Carly over Hope.

The ONLY good part about Hope during that time period was the Nighttime Hope storyline, because that was so fun and crazy and different.
lol It's so sad that I miss this crap compared to what's happening currently lol
Until the end, Higley was at least snarkable.
Please don't bring up Higley. The worst writer in the history of soaps. Everything she has ever done anywhere is completely unwatchable. Now there are stories I like and stories I don't like. Under Higley I hated everything without exception.
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lysie
May 20 2014, 01:40 PM
Lil
May 20 2014, 01:32 PM
am103
May 20 2014, 02:22 AM
Also, if there was anything worse than how Carly was written in 2011, it was how Hope was written in 2009/2010. She was totally intolerable, and I found myself actually rooting for Carly over Hope.

The ONLY good part about Hope during that time period was the Nighttime Hope storyline, because that was so fun and crazy and different.
lol It's so sad that I miss this crap compared to what's happening currently lol
Until the end, Higley was at least snarkable.
Exactly lol I had endless snark back then...Now it's just total apathy.
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Matt
May 20 2014, 12:05 PM
I really do hate John & Marlena now
I don't hate them. I hate what is being done to them. The writers are raping whatever integrity and likability they once possessed.
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

Matt
May 20 2014, 12:39 PM
has Marlena always been a sanctimonious bitch?

According to Kristen Dimera she has actually those were her words "you sanctimonious bitch" :lol:
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lysie


leela46
May 20 2014, 01:49 PM
lysie
May 20 2014, 01:40 PM
Lil
May 20 2014, 01:32 PM
am103
May 20 2014, 02:22 AM
Also, if there was anything worse than how Carly was written in 2011, it was how Hope was written in 2009/2010. She was totally intolerable, and I found myself actually rooting for Carly over Hope.

The ONLY good part about Hope during that time period was the Nighttime Hope storyline, because that was so fun and crazy and different.
lol It's so sad that I miss this crap compared to what's happening currently lol
Until the end, Higley was at least snarkable.
Please don't bring up Higley. The worst writer in the history of soaps. Everything she has ever done anywhere is completely unwatchable. Now there are stories I like and stories I don't like. Under Higley I hated everything without exception.
Sorry but I dislike the current writers more than I disliked her.
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Oh my ... Marlena was downright cruel to John today. I know you're angry but to tell him there's nothing left for him in Salem - really? Of course this is coming from a woman pining for Roman - she's scraping the bottom of the heap there - you'd think she'd aspire to better things. But I do have to say I did like Marlena's talk with Eric and her outfit today was beautiful - really suited her well.

As for the rest of the show ... let's just say thank goodness for Hope and Aiden. I really enjoyed all their scenes. I still want the Bo issue resolved - for good at least for the time being.

JJ and Paige - cute - they try so hard but I get nothing! Yawn.

Then there's Brady and Nicole who are being written especially bad - so bad that I don't like either of these characters any longer and then you throw in useless Theresa who I have never like and the show kind of just sits there - Blah!

They need to do something to generate some excitement on this show. Something that grabs us and holds our attention. There are a few things on the horizon that I'm looking forward to - Eric finding out the truth about what Nicole did to him and I'm also looking forward to the reveal of Nick's killer and the fallout from both of these revelations.
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Lil
May 20 2014, 01:40 PM
Honeybees
May 20 2014, 11:35 AM
Aiden is making his case to Hope. She is not on board with his plan as it is non criminal deceit. Aiden says they are canceling an gambling event to help children. However, Howell doesn't fall for Aiden's plan and Aiden is not done. This is probably the highlight of the show. Hope thinks it's funny.
Why does Aiden only appear in Fetch episodes? Dammit
Asking why Aiden only appears in Fetch episodes is almost like asking why Aiden only appears in EJami episodes. lol. Fetchless episodes are few & far between. Actually, I think we've been getting more Fetch episodes than EJami episodes lately.
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lysie
May 20 2014, 02:00 PM
leela46
May 20 2014, 01:49 PM
lysie
May 20 2014, 01:40 PM
Lil
May 20 2014, 01:32 PM

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Until the end, Higley was at least snarkable.
Please don't bring up Higley. The worst writer in the history of soaps. Everything she has ever done anywhere is completely unwatchable. Now there are stories I like and stories I don't like. Under Higley I hated everything without exception.
Sorry but I dislike the current writers more than I disliked her.
To a certain degree, comparing the 2009-2011 Higley era to TomSell is like comparing apples to apples. That said, the only reason I can't second your dislike of TomSell is because they're actually doing a surprisingly good job with the Haiden story and keeping Hope in-character. It's actually shocking to me that Hope isn't some cartoonish nonsense of a character. Tomlin must've been given some sort of strict set of rules about what he was & what he wan't allowed to do when it came to Hope. After all, it was him who tried to puppetmaster the whole Bo/Hope/Carly ridiculousness (& I'm talking about what happened on-screen, not any of the BTS stuff).
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Major fail today in the Hope - Jen 'cuz conversation.' So typical.

Two sentences about Hope's investigation of Nick's murder and her sense of responsibility for letting Nick down that drives her to undertake an investigation she shouldn't lead....

Then the focus shifts from the shocking Salem crime drama and gets right back to the intense personal drama of Princess Jen. Nicole is upsetting Consort Daniel and that is making things not right in JenWorld.

Oh, the foreboding! Oh, the fireworks to come! Oh, WTF, what a crock!
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lysie


Jennifer to Daniel: Sometimes I think that I am the luckiest woman on the earth.

WHAT????!!!???

You know what times you didn't think that, Jen? When you were born in a barn during a snowstorm. When your mother left you on a bus. When your mother spent most of your childhood in a sanitarium. When you were stalked by a rapist. When you were actually raped. The five billion times you've fallen off cliffs. When your child was diagnosed with aplastic anemia. When your exhusband slept with your mother. When your exhusband went to prison for "killing" your next husband for planning to drug and kidnap you and your child. When you dropped a baby out of your car. When your husband was killed by a serial killer. When your plane crashed. When you gave birth on a weird island. When your husband died again while being rescued. When he then died AGAIN from some weird sickness. When he didn't actually die and interrupted your wedding. When someone TOOK OUT YOUR HEART. When your husband told you he wasn't really on a walkabout, he'd been held captive in a frickin' cave. When you were arrested illegal campaign crap. When your husband fell down an elevator shaft saving your daughter. When you were falsely accused of killing a baby. And let us please not forget....that time that someone put your head on a the body of someone at the beach.

Luckiest woman in the world my ass.

Yeah. I made it through three minutes today.
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lysie
May 20 2014, 02:22 PM
Jennifer to Daniel: Sometimes I think that I am the luckiest woman on the earth.

WHAT????!!!???

You know what times you didn't think that, Jen? When you were born in a barn during a snowstorm.
Hey now, it wasn't THAT bad. :)

Bill & Laura broke into someone's house and she was born in a farmhouse kitchen!!

http://www.jason47.com/days/birthjennifer.html

Hmmm, I see I never updated the last episode, when she is named. I'll need to do that soon.
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lysie


Supergirlx2
May 20 2014, 02:18 PM
lysie
May 20 2014, 02:00 PM
leela46
May 20 2014, 01:49 PM
lysie
May 20 2014, 01:40 PM

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Please don't bring up Higley. The worst writer in the history of soaps. Everything she has ever done anywhere is completely unwatchable. Now there are stories I like and stories I don't like. Under Higley I hated everything without exception.
Sorry but I dislike the current writers more than I disliked her.
To a certain degree, comparing the 2009-2011 Higley era to TomSell is like comparing apples to apples. That said, the only reason I can't second your dislike of TomSell is because they're actually doing a surprisingly good job with the Haiden story and keeping Hope in-character. It's actually shocking to me that Hope isn't some cartoonish nonsense of a character. Tomlin must've been given some sort of strict set of rules about what he was & what he wan't allowed to do when it came to Hope. After all, it was him who tried to puppetmaster the whole Bo/Hope/Carly ridiculousness (& I'm talking about what happened on-screen, not any of the BTS stuff).
That's because the Hope/Aiden stuff isn't an actual story. When it is, it will be just like all the others.
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