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May 21 2014, 03:37 PM
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Can someone clarify something for me? Did the hitman return the money because he never got a shot off at Nick? Or did he tell EJ there was another shooter, including him?
Or was that never clarified? That scene ended abruptly and we never heard what the hitman had to say. We only have EJ's word, right? And when will the damn autopsy and ballistic reports come out?
This case sure is dragging considering it is May sweeps. Things should be moving along and popping on all fronts.
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May 21 2014, 03:43 PM
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- May 21 2014, 12:47 PM
And to emphasize Nicole is just as self involved as Sami, there she is going on about "MY dreams MY Life" Screw Eric's peace of mind.
And there is the Vic I love!
Funny, when Nicole is narcissistic it comes off less annoying, shrewy and harpyish than when Sami does it? #weirdcoincidence It's because she rarely gets any lasting happiness. And it was easier before this latest self-destructive tour to root for her because she always seems to get some sort of comeuppance. Not so with Sami.
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May 21 2014, 03:46 PM
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- May 21 2014, 12:56 PM
and Gabi wants to make sure Sonny is granted rights in the custody agreement. +1 Gabi & shows she's not as selfish as everyone accused Gabi has always been written as a good friend to and supportive of Will as well as Sonny individually and as a couple and fathers to Ari since Will and Sonny's wedding.I am happy the writers did not change this dynamic for her character and have written dialogue for her that explicitly states how she feels about Will and Sonny and their role in little Ari's life while still ensuring that Rafe has a role in his niece's life.
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May 21 2014, 03:57 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:37 PM
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I don't. This is just my opinion, but I think Rafe is much more charismatic and Galen Gering clicks with Ari Zucker better than Shawn Christian does. If I had to pick the lesser of two evils in this scenario, it would be Rafe.
Actor wise, IMO, there's not much difference, but character-wise I think Rafe/Nicole's friendship is even more ridiculous than Daniel/Nicole's.
I kinda have to agree here. While GG and AZ may have a certain nice chemistry at times, that doesn't excuse the fact that it's a great deal silly that the two characters would be friends. Maybe I interpret this show differently than others but it's really weird that they'd even be friendly. I saw the betrayal of Sami and Ej's grief sex as a huge turning point for Rafe and Nicole. They were both so shocked and frankly gutted that finding camaraderie as they worked through that pain with the only other person who truly knew the depth of that hurt made sense to me. I liked that they supported each other without jumping into bed together to ease the pain.
I wasn't a big fan of Rafe hiding yet another pregnancy from Ej as part of the story, but I liked that Rafe began to look differently at Nicole - especially once Sami was knocked off the pedestal he placed her on. Rafe was able to notice the love Nicole had for her unborn baby and how she wanted to give the very best to that child. That would be endearing to Rafe. I found nothing false in his feelings of protection and their subsequent friendship. Nicole knew from watching Rafe with Sami that he was a stand-up man she could trust to really be a friend once that bridge was built. I don't see anything ridiculous in that. :shrug:
Daniel's friendship with Nicole rubbed me the wrong way because I felt as though he was taking advantage of her raw emotional state. He bedded her and then backed off. He never seemed interested in really committing to her. The woman's pregnant! She's not coming from a place of being out on the town looking for a good time for the hell of it. That's shitty in my book. He's a doctor and should have been aware of Nicole's fragile state. Nicole had a high risk pregnancy and he knew she was needy. I really feel like he toyed with her during that story line and wasn't surprised it led to a break-down. So I can't abide by all this gush on Daniel now and how tight they are. Rafe would have fit better imo.
I do agree with this arc I probably would have hated how they played Rafe in it too. But . . . maybe there is hope for something more entertaining for Nicole down the road and Rafe can be part of it. I'd like that!
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May 21 2014, 04:00 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:46 PM
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You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative.
I think it would have been identical to what's airing.
I don't. This is just my opinion, but I think Rafe is much more charismatic and Galen Gering clicks with Ari Zucker better than Shawn Christian does. If I had to pick the lesser of two evils in this scenario, it would be Rafe. I agree with you.The Chyka story would have been much better with Rafe finding the evidence instead of Daniel.One of the main problems with Daniel is that he is turning into the new Sami.He is in every story whether he belongs there or not.Less Daniel is more.Rafe and Nicole have a history of being friends,he is a police officer which would give him a reason to be on the island,and it would avoid some of the more repetitive scenes with Jordan and Ben.Also we could avoid Jennifer being Nicole's friend to her face/stabbing her in the back.
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May 21 2014, 04:10 PM
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- May 21 2014, 03:19 PM
Sami's hair and dress are okay but she needs to lose the hooker/stripper shoes.
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May 21 2014, 04:10 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:05 PM
I can't believe that Sami said that EJ has changed when she knows that he just hired a hitman to murder Nick. I'm really looking forward to her finding out about the Ejabby affair. Yes Eric is wrong about Nicole too. But he believes that Nicole really has changed. Sami knows that EJ is still a criminal. Sami doesn't have a problem with EJ being a criminal when it benefits her or a member of her family.
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May 21 2014, 04:19 PM
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- May 21 2014, 03:57 PM
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Actor wise, IMO, there's not much difference, but character-wise I think Rafe/Nicole's friendship is even more ridiculous than Daniel/Nicole's.
I kinda have to agree here. While GG and AZ may have a certain nice chemistry at times, that doesn't excuse the fact that it's a great deal silly that the two characters would be friends. Maybe I interpret this show differently than others but it's really weird that they'd even be friendly.
I saw the betrayal of Sami and Ej's grief sex as a huge turning point for Rafe and Nicole. They were both so shocked and frankly gutted that finding camaraderie as they worked through that pain with the only other person who truly knew the depth of that hurt made sense to me. I liked that they supported each other without jumping into bed together to ease the pain. I wasn't a big fan of Rafe hiding yet another pregnancy from Ej as part of the story, but I liked that Rafe began to look differently at Nicole - especially once Sami was knocked off the pedestal he placed her on. Rafe was able to notice the love Nicole had for her unborn baby and how she wanted to give the very best to that child. That would be endearing to Rafe. I found nothing false in his feelings of protection and their subsequent friendship. Nicole knew from watching Rafe with Sami that he was a stand-up man she could trust to really be a friend once that bridge was built. I don't see anything ridiculous in that. :shrug: Daniel's friendship with Nicole rubbed me the wrong way because I felt as though he was taking advantage of her raw emotional state. He bedded her and then backed off. He never seemed interested in really committing to her. The woman's pregnant! She's not coming from a place of being out on the town looking for a good time for the hell of it. That's shitty in my book. He's a doctor and should have been aware of Nicole's fragile state. Nicole had a high risk pregnancy and he knew she was needy. I really feel like he toyed with her during that story line and wasn't surprised it led to a break-down. So I can't abide by all this gush on Daniel now and how tight they are. Rafe would have fit better imo. I do agree with this arc I probably would have hated how they played Rafe in it too. But . . . maybe there is hope for something more entertaining for Nicole down the road and Rafe can be part of it. I'd like that! I agree with this entire post.There was a reasonable basis for the Rafe/Nicole friendship but after the way Daniel used Nicole while she was pregnant then threw her aside, he should never be her best friend.This absolutely makes no sense.I could understand Daniel's friendship with Brady because he is Victor's godson but I still don't see why he had to be Eric's best friend.
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May 21 2014, 04:21 PM
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Did anyone else find the lighting for Kate while she was sitting with Lucas distracting? It looked as if someone was shining a spotlight on her face.
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May 21 2014, 04:31 PM
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- May 21 2014, 12:05 PM
damn. Sami's hair is on point & flawless today, too. It must be a sign of the coming apocalypse Oh I just saw a bad Barbie Doll wannabee. I'd better go back and take another look.
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May 21 2014, 04:32 PM
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- May 21 2014, 04:21 PM
Did anyone else find the lighting for Kate while she was sitting with Lucas distracting? It looked as if someone was shining a spotlight on her face. The lighting's been funky for a few weeks now - both when comparing different scenes and when comparing different angles within a scene. I'm glad I'm not the only one that's noticed it.
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May 21 2014, 04:39 PM
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- May 21 2014, 12:49 PM
Yeah, Eric remember the time Sami stole Nicole's baby.....oh wait! How could he possibly forget it gets mentioned everytime he brings up Nicole's name.
Sami needs to go to the same school Kate went to to learn about moving on and forgiveness.
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May 21 2014, 04:42 PM
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- May 21 2014, 12:58 PM
LOL, Nicole is using the Kristen play book!
Crap if Nicole loses this baby and I have to sit through another round of pillow baby I'm going to go mad.
But if she locks st Daniel in a secret room and loses the key ...... :P
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May 21 2014, 04:44 PM
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I can't believe that Sami said that EJ has changed when she knows that he just hired a hitman to murder Nick. I'm really looking forward to her finding out about the Ejabby affair. Yes Eric is wrong about Nicole too. But he believes that Nicole really has changed. Sami knows that EJ is still a criminal.
And I'm sure that EJ cheating will be considered by Sami the worst thing he has ever done and unforgivable. Which in my book it's the least bad thing he's done and the most forgiveable.
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May 21 2014, 04:46 PM
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I can't believe that Sami said that EJ has changed when she knows that he just hired a hitman to murder Nick. I'm really looking forward to her finding out about the Ejabby affair. Yes Eric is wrong about Nicole too. But he believes that Nicole really has changed. Sami knows that EJ is still a criminal.
And I'm sure that EJ cheating will be considered by Sami the worst thing he has ever done and unforgivable.
I am really starting to believe that this EJ cheating story is going to be swept under the rug. I think it will be out, forgiven, and forgotten in a couple of episodes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzu772aGcc
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May 21 2014, 04:50 PM
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Days writing a couple that explores all their options and makes decisions together? Ha! The only couple that even comes close to that kind of writing is EJami. I agree with you that it would have been a refreshing change, but I actually *like* the story for what it's worth. The set-up was perfect: Nicole finally, finally gets Eric back and he wants to leave the church to be with her. But of course, she finds the proof that could clear Eric's name and all of her past insecurities come back to haunt her, and she keeps the evidence a secret. It's exactly what I expected from Nicole. But the minute Dannifer/Liam joined the story is the minute it all got shot to hell. Daniel is my main problem with the show, and he's my main problem with this story.
Had I seen it told that way, I *maybe* would've appreciated and liked it as well. It just happened so fast. Ya have a year or more of Nicole really changing and then a few sloppy episodes of her with the evidence then destroying it.....twice, mind you. Had I seen where Nicole was doubtful and afraid, etc...maybe I could buy it. But those layers weren't presented to me thus making me not buy into it. But hey....I get it. I just don't like it after the progression of the character.
I agree. It was random for them to have Nicole go through this year-long redemption arc for her to just toss it all away. I totally get that. Which is why I agree that they should have played the evidence thing out a little more slowly as opposed to the way they're DRAGGING it on and on now. I also think this is why Nicole doesn't work in the "good girl" role. It's just not who she's been in her 15-year history with the show. That said, I think it is refreshing to see the good qualities in Nicole and it is indeed tiresome to have to start to witness her "annual humiliation" as someone said up-thread. Because Nicole is my favorite character, you can see why this current story arc she's involved in is rather frustrating, lol. If she's going to have to deal with the annual humiliation I want her to be doing out and out downright bad bad things, in a fun clever way.
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May 21 2014, 04:54 PM
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I don't. This is just my opinion, but I think Rafe is much more charismatic and Galen Gering clicks with Ari Zucker better than Shawn Christian does. If I had to pick the lesser of two evils in this scenario, it would be Rafe.
Actor wise, IMO, there's not much difference, but character-wise I think Rafe/Nicole's friendship is even more ridiculous than Daniel/Nicole's.
I kinda have to agree here. While GG and AZ may have a certain nice chemistry at times, that doesn't excuse the fact that it's a great deal silly that the two characters would be friends. Maybe I interpret this show differently than others but it's really weird that they'd even be friendly. They've been around each other a lot.
They've had there issues...
But they have a lot of things in common.
Step parenting, being taken advantage of, limited family to fall back on.
Sometimes that's enough to make two people friends.
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May 21 2014, 05:04 PM
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- May 21 2014, 03:19 PM
Gosh how tall is GV ? he doesn't look much taller than AS and she's wearing heels ? :shrug: Weird that I haven't noticed before :drunk:
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May 21 2014, 05:44 PM
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And to emphasize Nicole is just as self involved as Sami, there she is going on about "MY dreams MY Life" Screw Eric's peace of mind.
And there is the Vic I love!
Funny, when Nicole is narcissistic it comes off less annoying, shrewy and harpyish than when Sami does it? #weirdcoincidence
It's because she rarely gets any lasting happiness. And it was easier before this latest self-destructive tour to root for her because she always seems to get some sort of comeuppance. Not so with Sami. I think it also has a lot to do with the actress. I think AZ makes Nicole more rootable. Look at all the stunts she's pulled, and I'm still hoping she'll get her happy ending some day.
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May 21 2014, 05:47 PM
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Gosh how tall is GV ? he doesn't look much taller than AS and she's wearing heels ? :shrug: Weird that I haven't noticed before :drunk: I always notice. It's shallow, and GV is very attractive, but I really wish he was taller. At least if they're gonna continue to pair Eric with Nicole.
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