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May 21 2014, 01:07 PM
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There was way 2 much Daniel on today's show. :shame: 2 much rehashing the same conversation as usual w/ his scenes. :blah: WTH is in SC's contract?
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May 21 2014, 01:10 PM
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- May 21 2014, 12:08 PM
Real life interfered with today, and I caught the last segment of St. Douche of Orange being a smug asshole to Nicole and then her telling Eric that they have to elope.
And I caught a nice scene of Gabi telling EJ that she wants Sonny on record as the person who gets Ari if something should happen to her and Will. Nice moment between her and Sonny.
Will watch the rest later, with plenty of ffing of St. Orange. Real life interrupted me 2. So I paused it and when I came back, I was able to FF through all the rest of the Daniel scenes & the Sami/Eric scenes.
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May 21 2014, 01:11 PM
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- leela46
- May 21 2014, 01:05 PM
I can't believe that Sami said that EJ has changed when she knows that he just hired a hitman to murder Nick. I'm really looking forward to her finding out about the Ejabby affair. Yes Eric is wrong about Nicole too. But he believes that Nicole really has changed. Sami knows that EJ is still a criminal. And I'm sure that EJ cheating will be considered by Sami the worst thing he has ever done and unforgivable.
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May 21 2014, 01:11 PM
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- May 21 2014, 12:44 PM
Contrary to your beliefs, Sami!! The whole f-ing world is NOT ABOUT YOU!!
You're right - the whole world is about Saint Daniel of Fetch. lol. ;) Yes, Sami is delusional as always. The SamiJamiWorld amusement park in Salem is about to shut down.
Really, now it's all about Princess Jen of JenWorld f/k/a Salem. If Daniel incurs her displeasure, the Jennites turn him from saint to pariah in a millisec.
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May 21 2014, 01:14 PM
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May 21 2014, 01:14 PM
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I can't believe that Sami said that EJ has changed when she knows that he just hired a hitman to murder Nick. I'm really looking forward to her finding out about the Ejabby affair. Yes Eric is wrong about Nicole too. But he believes that Nicole really has changed. Sami knows that EJ is still a criminal.
And I'm sure that EJ cheating will be considered by Sami the worst thing he has ever done and unforgivable. I am really starting to believe that this EJ cheating story is going to be swept under the rug. I think it will be out, forgiven, and forgotten in a couple of episodes.
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May 21 2014, 01:15 PM
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- May 21 2014, 12:18 PM
:blulaugh: Gabi wanting directness. Music gets upbeat. In walks Kate. "We need to get some things straight. Sonny laughs. "Guess you got your wish!" This needs a GIF. :blulaugh:
So does Victor's last words about Nick when he was having a drink by himself. :wub:
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May 21 2014, 01:16 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:07 PM
There was way 2 much Daniel on today's show. :shame: 2 much rehashing the same conversation as usual w/ his scenes. :blah: WTH is in SC's contract? And when does it expire??!! #NotSoonEnough :frustration:
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May 21 2014, 01:17 PM
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- jewlmc
- May 21 2014, 12:40 PM
The Irony is that both twins are wrong about their partners.
"EJ has changed!" "Nicole has changed!"
Nope.
And Sami is a hypocrite, but so is Nicole every time she calls Sami a selfish lying bitch so.. The irony is: There's hardly any one left to root for in Salem. #Disengaged
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May 21 2014, 01:18 PM
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The Eric/Sami scenes were fun. I always find amusement in Sami's hypocrisy, so I enjoyed that. I also had to give a +1 to Sami for saying Eric sounds like Brady for saying Nicole has changed, but then I had to take it away because you know who else sounds like Brady? Sami.
I enjoyed Maggie/Victor/Jennifer until it turned into Dannifer praise. This show sure knows how to kill some good scenes.
Gabi was simply awesome today! I loved her telling off Sonny and Kate. I never would've dreamed of saying this three years ago, but I really will miss Gabi/CB when the time comes for her to leave.
Lucas/Kate was cool, although I wish there would have been more focus on them. Their scenes felt like filler when they really could've been the central point of the show today.
And then we get to main part of today's show - Daniel/Nicole. The same tired, boring, repetitive conversation we've been hearing now for two weeks. We get it. Daniel is the only one in Salem with morals who always (ALWAYS!) does the right thing no matter what, and everyone else should do what Daniel does. They should worship the ground he walks on, and pray for his very forgiveness if he ever becomes even only slightly displeased with them. (Hopefully if I start to talk this, the show will knock Daniel down a few pegs, but who are we kidding.)
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May 21 2014, 01:23 PM
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My apologies as I've not yet watched today's "episode" but ummm I read Eric asked Dr FuckADuck to be his best man and this isn't working for me. How bout Roman...ur FATHER....how bout John Black who eventually had a big part in your life....how bout ABE who has been a constant in your life. How bout CHER?!?! Anyone makes more sense than Dr Dipstick. Guys, I ain't gonna lie...ill watch this show til it's off the air but fuuuuuck man, I'm sick and tired of this Daniel shit! It's too much!
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May 21 2014, 01:26 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:16 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:07 PM
There was way 2 much Daniel on today's show. :shame: 2 much rehashing the same conversation as usual w/ his scenes. :blah: WTH is in SC's contract?
And when does it expire??!! #NotSoonEnough :frustration: Oh I'm sure he got the rare Tom and Alice Horton contract which includes but is not limited to red carpet treatment when he walks in the room, a 100 year contract and if he dies flashbacks will be used in the way of a floating pumpkin head, that he always appear haggard to represent not only his apparent desired look but the state of the show as it is today. Oh and that his name shall be worshipped whenever totally not needed. Ugh. This bitch, man.
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May 21 2014, 01:32 PM
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You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative.
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May 21 2014, 01:36 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:32 PM
You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative. Ill agree with this but I think the better bargain would've been a story where Eric seriously and truly had all options opened to him. He had the proof. Nicole gave it to him. He sees that she loves him THAT much. Would've been a groundbreaking moment for her character. Maybe he chose the priesthood but couldn't deny the love he had for her and shit went down. They could've still made Nicole "look bad" that way cuz she screwed a priest but it was consensual. There's your story. This shredding evidence crap makes no sense after the 1.5 years of Nicole's story.
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May 21 2014, 01:37 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:32 PM
You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative. I think it would have been identical to what's airing.
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May 21 2014, 01:43 PM
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- May 21 2014, 01:36 PM
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You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative.
Ill agree with this but I think the better bargain would've been a story where Eric seriously and truly had all options opened to him. He had the proof. Nicole gave it to him. He sees that she loves him THAT much. Would've been a groundbreaking moment for her character. Maybe he chose the priesthood but couldn't deny the love he had for her and shit went down. They could've still made Nicole "look bad" that way cuz she screwed a priest but it was consensual. There's your story. This shredding evidence crap makes no sense after the 1.5 years of Nicole's story. Days writing a couple that explores all their options and makes decisions together? Ha! The only couple that even comes close to that kind of writing is EJami.
I agree with you that it would have been a refreshing change, but I actually *like* the story for what it's worth. The set-up was perfect: Nicole finally, finally gets Eric back and he wants to leave the church to be with her. But of course, she finds the proof that could clear Eric's name and all of her past insecurities come back to haunt her, and she keeps the evidence a secret. It's exactly what I expected from Nicole. But the minute Dannifer/Liam joined the story is the minute it all got shot to hell. Daniel is my main problem with the show, and he's my main problem with this story.
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May 21 2014, 01:46 PM
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You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative.
I think it would have been identical to what's airing. I don't. This is just my opinion, but I think Rafe is much more charismatic and Galen Gering clicks with Ari Zucker better than Shawn Christian does. If I had to pick the lesser of two evils in this scenario, it would be Rafe.
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May 21 2014, 01:48 PM
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You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative.
Ill agree with this but I think the better bargain would've been a story where Eric seriously and truly had all options opened to him. He had the proof. Nicole gave it to him. He sees that she loves him THAT much. Would've been a groundbreaking moment for her character. Maybe he chose the priesthood but couldn't deny the love he had for her and shit went down. They could've still made Nicole "look bad" that way cuz she screwed a priest but it was consensual. There's your story. This shredding evidence crap makes no sense after the 1.5 years of Nicole's story.
Days writing a couple that explores all their options and makes decisions together? Ha! The only couple that even comes close to that kind of writing is EJami. I agree with you that it would have been a refreshing change, but I actually *like* the story for what it's worth. The set-up was perfect: Nicole finally, finally gets Eric back and he wants to leave the church to be with her. But of course, she finds the proof that could clear Eric's name and all of her past insecurities come back to haunt her, and she keeps the evidence a secret. It's exactly what I expected from Nicole. But the minute Dannifer/Liam joined the story is the minute it all got shot to hell. Daniel is my main problem with the show, and he's my main problem with this story. Had I seen it told that way, I *maybe* would've appreciated and liked it as well. It just happened so fast. Ya have a year or more of Nicole really changing and then a few sloppy episodes of her with the evidence then destroying it.....twice, mind you. Had I seen where Nicole was doubtful and afraid, etc...maybe I could buy it. But those layers weren't presented to me thus making me not buy into it. But hey....I get it. I just don't like it after the progression of the character.
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May 21 2014, 01:52 PM
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You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative.
Ill agree with this but I think the better bargain would've been a story where Eric seriously and truly had all options opened to him. He had the proof. Nicole gave it to him. He sees that she loves him THAT much. Would've been a groundbreaking moment for her character. Maybe he chose the priesthood but couldn't deny the love he had for her and shit went down. They could've still made Nicole "look bad" that way cuz she screwed a priest but it was consensual. There's your story. This shredding evidence crap makes no sense after the 1.5 years of Nicole's story.
Days writing a couple that explores all their options and makes decisions together? Ha! The only couple that even comes close to that kind of writing is EJami. I agree with you that it would have been a refreshing change, but I actually *like* the story for what it's worth. The set-up was perfect: Nicole finally, finally gets Eric back and he wants to leave the church to be with her. But of course, she finds the proof that could clear Eric's name and all of her past insecurities come back to haunt her, and she keeps the evidence a secret. It's exactly what I expected from Nicole. But the minute Dannifer/Liam joined the story is the minute it all got shot to hell. Daniel is my main problem with the show, and he's my main problem with this story.
Had I seen it told that way, I *maybe* would've appreciated and liked it as well. It just happened so fast. Ya have a year or more of Nicole really changing and then a few sloppy episodes of her with the evidence then destroying it.....twice, mind you. Had I seen where Nicole was doubtful and afraid, etc...maybe I could buy it. But those layers weren't presented to me thus making me not buy into it. But hey....I get it. I just don't like it after the progression of the character. I agree. It was random for them to have Nicole go through this year-long redemption arc for her to just toss it all away. I totally get that. Which is why I agree that they should have played the evidence thing out a little more slowly as opposed to the way they're DRAGGING it on and on now. I also think this is why Nicole doesn't work in the "good girl" role. It's just not who she's been in her 15-year history with the show. That said, I think it is refreshing to see the good qualities in Nicole and it is indeed tiresome to have to start to witness her "annual humiliation" as someone said up-thread.
Because Nicole is my favorite character, you can see why this current story arc she's involved in is rather frustrating, lol.
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May 21 2014, 01:55 PM
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You know what would have even made a world of difference in the Ericole story? If Rafe had been the one to bust Nicole instead of Daniel. He would have gone to her without being judgmental while at the same time urging Nicole to do the right thing. And since Rafe is so much more tolerable (imo) than Daniel and has a better, more meaningful friendship with Nicole, I think that would have been a MUCH better alternative.
I think it would have been identical to what's airing.
I don't. This is just my opinion, but I think Rafe is much more charismatic and Galen Gering clicks with Ari Zucker better than Shawn Christian does. If I had to pick the lesser of two evils in this scenario, it would be Rafe. Actor wise, IMO, there's not much difference, but character-wise I think Rafe/Nicole's friendship is even more ridiculous than Daniel/Nicole's.
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