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Spoilers for the week of June 2nd; *updated 5/26*
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May 29 2014, 09:49 PM
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But comparing Stefano and Gabi is apples and oranges. Knowing about Stefano providing for Dr. Chyka is something that people in Salem have already guessed anyway, and nobody would be surprised by it. In fact, it would be a mere blip on the radar screen as far as Stefano is concerned. Not only would nobody be surprised, they probably expect such things from him. That is not the case with Gabi. The thing of it is, those are people who you mentioned are people who don't awake surprise if they do something bad. Whereas Gabi has been treated with kit gloves the whole time she has been here. That is why it should be known what she has done.
I actually compared Gabi,a Salem resident,to Stefano,EJ,Kate,Sami,Kristin,and Victor,who are also Salem residents.Gabi is going to prison ,which none of the others have done for their crimes,so I don't see what happened with Andrew as a bigger deal than murder.I still do not agree that all of Gabi's misdeeds need to come to light because she is not as bad as Stefano,EJ,Sami,Kate,and Victor.Abe and Hope know that Arnold killed Fay but I think Arnold was killed before anyone got confirmation from him that Stefano and EJ did in fact hire Arnold to replace Rafe then kidnapped Rafe and that he killed Fay to prevent her from revealing what she knew about that conspiracy. What bad treatment has Stefano,Victor,Sami,EJ,and Kate received for their misdeeds?+They all have children who love them,family members who support them,wealth,and are planning HEA with their significant others.
Jail, getting shot, getting poisoned, losing their children, or other loved ones... Gabi's sister died violently,her brother was beaten so badly he was in a coma for months and needed physical therapy,while pregnant with her first child she was kidnapped by a sadist who threatened to kill her,she has a failed marriage,she was almost raped,she is going to prison for killing Nick, and she will be separated from her daughter for several years during the formative years of Arianna's life.Even without the Melanie thing becoming known,Gabi is paying more despite having done less than Stefano,EJ,Kate,Sami,and Victor.
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May 30 2014, 12:13 AM
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Gabi is responsible for everything that happened with the Andrew story line. As I have said before..if you hire a person to rob a house and someone is killed in that house then YOU are also held as an accessory. Simple and legal fact. So she IS responsible for the deaths that followed the explosions in the tunnels. If she had not hired Andrew then he would never have taken Melanie hostage and went in the tunnels and I do remember when she found out that he took Melanie she said Melanie can never be let loose or something to that effect. If you hire someone to rob a house and someone gets killed that is a more direct cause and effect. The whole thing about Gabi and the explosion is more like saying if you buy a car and the car gets stolen and someone dies because the thief hits them then the salesperson that sold you the car is responsible for the person being hit by the car and dying because if they hadn't sold the car to you then the person wouldn't be dead. At some point everything in life happens because something else happened first, but there has to be a reasonable point of accountability. Gabi is responsible for some of the events but she didn't cause the explosion. And it was Abby that would be the cause of her Dad dying because she wouldn't get out of there. But even in that case, she didn't do something criminal to cause his death. It was the way things played out.
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May 30 2014, 12:25 AM
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I get a thumbs down just because I wrote I don't like Gabi. I think a lot of people are in agreement with me, jeeze. She was horrible to Melanie. You don't do that to your friend.
I wouldn't take people's thumbs up/thumbs down so seriously. If I had to take a guess, I'd say that people probably hit the thumbs down because you compared what Gabi did to Melanie (which, as I remember, was actually simply a situation that got out of control & was never what Gabi had intended) to what Nick did to Will/Sonny/Kate/Sami/EJ/Abby.
And Melanie was a scheming bitch when she first arrived in town. She went after Phillip over and over again when he was with Stefanie and she got involved with Chad when he was still with Abby, her best friend at the time. She was every bit conniving as Gabi.
I've only been watching Days for a year... Don't worry about the thumbs up or down thing, people sometimes do one or the other because they just don't agree with you. It doesn't mean they aren't glad you are here to disagree with.
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May 30 2014, 09:10 AM
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I actually compared Gabi,a Salem resident,to Stefano,EJ,Kate,Sami,Kristin,and Victor,who are also Salem residents.Gabi is going to prison ,which none of the others have done for their crimes,so I don't see what happened with Andrew as a bigger deal than murder.I still do not agree that all of Gabi's misdeeds need to come to light because she is not as bad as Stefano,EJ,Sami,Kate,and Victor.Abe and Hope know that Arnold killed Fay but I think Arnold was killed before anyone got confirmation from him that Stefano and EJ did in fact hire Arnold to replace Rafe then kidnapped Rafe and that he killed Fay to prevent her from revealing what she knew about that conspiracy. What bad treatment has Stefano,Victor,Sami,EJ,and Kate received for their misdeeds?+They all have children who love them,family members who support them,wealth,and are planning HEA with their significant others.
Jail, getting shot, getting poisoned, losing their children, or other loved ones...
Gabi's sister died violently,her brother was beaten so badly he was in a coma for months and needed physical therapy,while pregnant with her first child she was kidnapped by a sadist who threatened to kill her,she has a failed marriage,she was almost raped,she is going to prison for killing Nick, and she will be separated from her daughter for several years during the formative years of Arianna's life.Even without the Melanie thing becoming known,Gabi is paying more despite having done less than Stefano,EJ,Kate,Sami,and Victor. Only one of those things - going to prison - is a consequence of her bad actions, and that hasn't even happened yet, so it doesn't count. Rape is not a punishment. Your relatives getting hurt due to circumstances that had nothing to do with you is not a punishment or a consequence. Having a failed marriage through no fault of your own is not a punishment.
Losing custody of your kids because you screwed up is a form of payment. Getting shot or poisoned by one of your victims is a consequence of your bad behavior. Having your daughter die because you set a nutcase loose on the city who imprisoned her in a place that caused her cancer is a consequence of bad behavior. Having your family cut ties with you because of your actions is a consequence.
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I will never understand some fans desperate need that Gabi never suffer any consequences over what she did to Melanie. That the secret should be taken to the grave. Boggles the mind.
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May 30 2014, 10:04 AM
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Kate poisoned Chloe and she ended up comatose. To keep from going to jail Kate married Stefano. Kate hasn't suffered any consequences, unless you count her marriage, which I don't. Will shot EJ and Lucas took the fall for it (yeah we've heard this before). Will has been blackmailed but it's still not public knowledge that he was the shooter. Had he suffered consequences, he wouldn't have been in a position to be blackmailed. Nick is the reason Gabi didn't go to jail for the Andrew debacle. He used that secret against her in November. Just before she whacked him with the rock he told her he'd have no problem telling everyone what she did to Melanie if she didn't go the New York with him. He was ready to blackmail her again when he told Sonny days before he was shot that he'd make sure everyone knew about Gabi's shenanigans. I'm one of those who hopes she exits without this being brought up again. I think the second confession is the events that happened that November night of Nick's first "murder" used as an explanation as to what led to her actually killing Nick.
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I'm one of those who hopes she exits without this being brought up again. I think the second confession is the events that happened that November night of Nick's first "murder" used as an explanation as to what led to her actually killing Nick. But WHY? Gabi's going to jail no matter what. It's best to get all of it out in the open and dealt with instead of leaving it lingering over her head in the future if/when she gets back. And I am of the same opinion of what Will did to EJ.
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May 30 2014, 10:27 AM
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Why would it need to linger over her head if she returns? I know this is an old argument but others' indiscretions are swept under the rug never to be mentioned again. (is it still a secret that it was EJ who locked Lucas in that freezer in the back of that truck). Why should Gabi's first venture into crime be any different. Like you said she's already going to prison for murder and she's leaving behind her 1 yr old daughter. I think that's enough!
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May 30 2014, 10:33 AM
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Why would it need to linger over her head if she returns? I know this is an old argument but others' indiscretions are swept under the rug never to be mentioned again. (is it still a secret that it was EJ who locked Lucas in that freezer in the back of that truck). Why should Gabi's first venture into crime be any different. Like you said she's already going to prison for murder and she's leaving behind her 1 yr old daughter. I think that's enough! Because even if others haven't paid legally over past indiscretions, they usually are brought up and used against them eventually. Just ask Will. How many time has he been blackmailed over shooting EJ? Three? Four? Expect more if he doesn't confess now. I'm sick of it. If Gabi has any sense, she will just lay it all out on the table now since she is going down anyway.
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May 30 2014, 11:00 AM
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Why would it need to linger over her head if she returns? I know this is an old argument but others' indiscretions are swept under the rug never to be mentioned again. (is it still a secret that it was EJ who locked Lucas in that freezer in the back of that truck). Why should Gabi's first venture into crime be any different. Like you said she's already going to prison for murder and she's leaving behind her 1 yr old daughter. I think that's enough!
Because even if others haven't paid legally over past indiscretions, they usually are brought up and used against them eventually. Just ask Will. How many time has he been blackmailed over shooting EJ? Three? Four? Expect more if he doesn't confess now. I'm sick of it. If Gabi has any sense, she will just lay it all out on the table now since she is going down anyway. Will was blackmailed 3 times - EJ, Stefano, Nick. Gabi was essentially blackmailed by Nick and has been threatened with blackmail a few times by Sonny. Personally if I'm going to jail for a few years for one crime, I'm' not going to suddenly unburdened my soul and confess all my other unknown crimes to add to my jail time just to somehow ease my conscience, but hey that's just me!
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May 30 2014, 11:19 AM
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Why would it need to linger over her head if she returns? I know this is an old argument but others' indiscretions are swept under the rug never to be mentioned again. (is it still a secret that it was EJ who locked Lucas in that freezer in the back of that truck). Why should Gabi's first venture into crime be any different. Like you said she's already going to prison for murder and she's leaving behind her 1 yr old daughter. I think that's enough!
Because even if others haven't paid legally over past indiscretions, they usually are brought up and used against them eventually. Just ask Will. How many time has he been blackmailed over shooting EJ? Three? Four? Expect more if he doesn't confess now. I'm sick of it. If Gabi has any sense, she will just lay it all out on the table now since she is going down anyway.
Will was blackmailed 3 times - EJ, Stefano, Nick. Gabi was essentially blackmailed by Nick and has been threatened with blackmail a few times by Sonny. Personally if I'm going to jail for a few years for one crime, I'm' not going to suddenly unburdened my soul and confess all my other unknown crimes to add to my jail time just to somehow ease my conscience, but hey that's just me! I agree with this. As much as I'd like for pretty much everybody's secrets to eventually come out, why should Gabi cop to something that she hasn't been accused of yet? That wouldn't make sense. Many secrets get kept in the closet with all the other dusty skeletons and I don't see why Gabi's involvement with the Daysaster should be any different. I would love for Abby and JJ to know every detail concerning their father's death but not every mystery gets solved...
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I will never understand some fans desperate need that Gabi never suffer any consequences over what she did to Melanie. That the secret should be taken to the grave. Boggles the mind. I don't see anyone having a desperate need for it. I find it annoying for many reasons, but not being thrilled about it I'm a certain context is loads different from having a desperate need. I would have preferred she suffer those particular consequences onscreen as a conflict between her and Abby, Jennifer, and Brady. Having it come out as she exits makes her role in it seem bigger than it was and is just a lazy way of avoiding drama, IMO.
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May 30 2014, 11:22 AM
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Why would it need to linger over her head if she returns? I know this is an old argument but others' indiscretions are swept under the rug never to be mentioned again. (is it still a secret that it was EJ who locked Lucas in that freezer in the back of that truck). Why should Gabi's first venture into crime be any different. Like you said she's already going to prison for murder and she's leaving behind her 1 yr old daughter. I think that's enough!
Because even if others haven't paid legally over past indiscretions, they usually are brought up and used against them eventually. Just ask Will. How many time has he been blackmailed over shooting EJ? Three? Four? Expect more if he doesn't confess now. I'm sick of it. If Gabi has any sense, she will just lay it all out on the table now since she is going down anyway.
Will was blackmailed 3 times - EJ, Stefano, Nick. Gabi was essentially blackmailed by Nick and has been threatened with blackmail a few times by Sonny. Personally if I'm going to jail for a few years for one crime, I'm' not going to suddenly unburdened my soul and confess all my other unknown crimes to add to my jail time just to somehow ease my conscience, but hey that's just me!
I agree with this. As much as I'd like for pretty much everybody's secrets to eventually come out, why should Gabi cop to something that she hasn't been accused of yet? That wouldn't make sense. Many secrets get kept in the closet with all the other dusty skeletons and I don't see why Gabi's involvement with the Daysaster should be any different. I would love for Abby and JJ to know every detail concerning their father's death but not every mystery gets solved... Well, that's the thing. They don't even know there's a mystery to solve.
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I will never understand some fans desperate need that Gabi never suffer any consequences over what she did to Melanie. That the secret should be taken to the grave. Boggles the mind. I think the reason is because most people hated Melanie and were just happy that Gabitch run her out of town and are feeling gratitude towards her.
I was going to say that it is useless for it to come out now. There isn't any drama in it but if it is true that Melanie (and Chad is coming back) might come back than I think is good idea that people know the reason she left. Maybe the reason she comes back is that both Nabi has gone down and she feels save being back again.
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Why would it need to linger over her head if she returns? I know this is an old argument but others' indiscretions are swept under the rug never to be mentioned again. (is it still a secret that it was EJ who locked Lucas in that freezer in the back of that truck). Why should Gabi's first venture into crime be any different. Like you said she's already going to prison for murder and she's leaving behind her 1 yr old daughter. I think that's enough!
Because even if others haven't paid legally over past indiscretions, they usually are brought up and used against them eventually. Just ask Will. How many time has he been blackmailed over shooting EJ? Three? Four? Expect more if he doesn't confess now. I'm sick of it. If Gabi has any sense, she will just lay it all out on the table now since she is going down anyway.
Will was blackmailed 3 times - EJ, Stefano, Nick. Gabi was essentially blackmailed by Nick and has been threatened with blackmail a few times by Sonny. Personally if I'm going to jail for a few years for one crime, I'm' not going to suddenly unburdened my soul and confess all my other unknown crimes to add to my jail time just to somehow ease my conscience, but hey that's just me!
I agree with this. As much as I'd like for pretty much everybody's secrets to eventually come out, why should Gabi cop to something that she hasn't been accused of yet? That wouldn't make sense. Many secrets get kept in the closet with all the other dusty skeletons and I don't see why Gabi's involvement with the Daysaster should be any different. I would love for Abby and JJ to know every detail concerning their father's death but not every mystery gets solved... But see, I don't agree with this. To me, every mystery will always eventually get solved, and if it doesn't that's just bad writing.
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I will never understand some fans desperate need that Gabi never suffer any consequences over what she did to Melanie. That the secret should be taken to the grave. Boggles the mind.
I think the reason is because most people hated Melanie and were just happy that Gabitch run her out of town and are feeling gratitude towards her. I was going to say that it is useless for it to come out now. There isn't any drama in it but if it is true that Melanie (and Chad is coming back) might come back than I think is good idea that people know the reason she left. Maybe the reason she comes back is that both Nabi has gone down and she feels save being back again. When is Chad coming back? Wait I misread this. He might come back. Nevermind lol
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I will never understand some fans desperate need that Gabi never suffer any consequences over what she did to Melanie. That the secret should be taken to the grave. Boggles the mind. I agree. It boggles my mind too. As far as I'm concerned Gabi should have gone to prison a long time ago
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I will never understand some fans desperate need that Gabi never suffer any consequences over what she did to Melanie. That the secret should be taken to the grave. Boggles the mind.
I think the reason is because most people hated Melanie and were just happy that Gabitch run her out of town and are feeling gratitude towards her. I was going to say that it is useless for it to come out now. There isn't any drama in it but if it is true that Melanie (and Chad is coming back) might come back than I think is good idea that people know the reason she left. Maybe the reason she comes back is that both Nabi has gone down and she feels save being back again. Ah! I wasn't around for that. This is the first plausible explanation I've heard.
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I will never understand some fans desperate need that Gabi never suffer any consequences over what she did to Melanie. That the secret should be taken to the grave. Boggles the mind.
I think the reason is because most people hated Melanie and were just happy that Gabitch run her out of town and are feeling gratitude towards her. I was going to say that it is useless for it to come out now. There isn't any drama in it but if it is true that Melanie (and Chad is coming back) might come back than I think is good idea that people know the reason she left. Maybe the reason she comes back is that both Nabi has gone down and she feels save being back again.
When is Chad coming back? Wait I misread this. He might come back. Nevermind lol GV "accidentally" tweeted a script that had Chad listed as a character for a show in September. I put accidentally in quote marks because some feel they are being sneaky about leaking while others just think it's an honest mistake.
The Melanie thing is still rumor.
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Maybe you guys are onto something. I rewatched the episode the day after Nick died and they were all at the hospital. It was pretty odd how Gabi held into the diaper bag so tightly. She had a very bizarre way of holding it =/
You're questioning the wrong thing. There was no reason for her to have a diaper bag with her at that time in the first place. Who carries a diaper bag without the requisite baby to accompany it? Besides, Jason basically confirmed earlier in this thread that Gabi's the killer -- "Well, they were losing the murderer's contract that week, so they had to wrap up the storyline then." Camila Banus is the only one whose contract was ending at the time these scenes were being filmed.
Who is Jason?
Jason -- full site name Jason47 (for whatever reason, he's the only person on this site whose name I shorten and don't bold -- probably because it's assumed that everyone here knows exactly who he is unless they're new to the site, in which case they quickly figure it out) -- is arguably the site's most knowledgeable member when it comes to Days, its history, and its behind-the-scenes workings. He runs the site jason47.com, and he also posts weekly threads here that offer information like weekly guest cast lists and other scoops related to the show. He is often the first to announce casting news or tease upcoming developments. When he does post something, you can be sure that he knows what he's talking about. If you check out his history of posted topics, you'll see some examples of the type of threads that he posts. On page six of this thread, he posted this (which I quoted a portion of in my previous post). At the risk of speaking for him, he wouldn't have said that unless he knew who the murderer was, because unlike the rest of us, he doesn't really speculate. He can't, really, because people have come to rely on him for information, and if he speculated about something, we'd all assume that it was true just because it was coming from him. That's how reliable he is as a source. So if he says, "Well, they were losing the murderer's contract that week, so they had to wrap up the storyline then," that means that the murderer is definitely someone whose contract was ending the week that the scenes that will air the week of June 2nd were being filmed...and the only person whose contract was ending at that time is Camila Banus, who plays Gabi. So Gabi is the murderer. :thanks: :cheers:
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