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Topic Started: May 21 2014, 12:36 PM (39,022 Views)
nananana7
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It's weird that the word "murderer" is being used in the *singular*, yet Nick was shot both from the front and from the back.

I'm guessing there were at least two shooters ...
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nananana7
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What if Nick hired someone to shoot him?
-- a pre-arranged hired suicide?
I think we've speculated this before.
Maybe he had a terminal illness and set all this up to get revenge?

Maybe he cancelled it but his own hitman went through with it anyhow?

Maybe Gabi arrived right afterwards, and just missed Lucas who also arrived afterwards?

I'm just wildly speculating.

But if Nick arranged his own death, and Blake is someone whose contract was ending ... then ...
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sillibella
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Blake kinda talked about that in his interview with MF. He played it like the first shot just startled him and he didn't know what was happening, like he'd gotten hit with something that hurt him so he turns around to see what the hell was going on and that's when he gets shot a second and third time from the same direction as the first. He looks down, sees that he is bleeding profusely, and that's when he realized that he's been shot and is dying. Pretty much this means that there was only one shooter that was standing in the same place the whole time but because he turned around, he got shot in the back and the front.

It also means that, even though not everybody was a fan of Nick, Days lost a damn fine actor when he left, imo.
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nananana7
May 25 2014, 09:14 PM
It's weird that the word "murderer" is being used in the *singular*, yet Nick was shot both from the front and from the back.

I'm guessing there were at least two shooters ...
He was shot in the back. He then turned around and was shot two more times in the front. All three shots came from the same direction. Therefore, they could have all been from the same gun and the same shooter. In fact, they almost certainly were.

I never understood the "two shooters" theory. :shrug:
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sillibella
May 25 2014, 09:50 PM
Blake kinda talked about that in his interview with MF. He played it like the first shot just startled him and he didn't know what was happening, like he'd gotten hit with something that hurt him so he turns around to see what the hell was going on and that's when he gets shot a second and third time from the same direction as the first. He looks down, sees that he is bleeding profusely, and that's when he realized that he's been shot and is dying. Pretty much this means that there was only one shooter that was standing in the same place the whole time but because he turned around, he got shot in the back and the front.

It also means that, even though not everybody was a fan of Nick, Days lost a damn fine actor when he left, imo.
Re: the bolded...I'm not sure how the way that Blake Berris played that scene means that he's a "damn fine actor". That's how I'd react to getting shot from behind, then getting shot two more times in the front, too, and I'm not even an actor. It's just common sense, IMO.
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nananana7
May 25 2014, 09:14 PM
It's weird that the word "murderer" is being used in the *singular*, yet Nick was shot both from the front and from the back.

I'm guessing there were at least two shooters ...
Nick turned around after the first shot and was looking at the shooter when being shot some more.
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nananana7
May 25 2014, 09:14 PM
It's weird that the word "murderer" is being used in the *singular*, yet Nick was shot both from the front and from the back.

I'm guessing there were at least two shooters ...
sillibella
May 25 2014, 09:50 PM
Blake kinda talked about that in his interview with MF. He played it like the first shot just startled him and he didn't know what was happening, like he'd gotten hit with something that hurt him so he turns around to see what the hell was going on and that's when he gets shot a second and third time from the same direction as the first. He looks down, sees that he is bleeding profusely, and that's when he realized that he's been shot and is dying. Pretty much this means that there was only one shooter that was standing in the same place the whole time but because he turned around, he got shot in the back and the front.
Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 10:38 PM
He was shot in the back. He then turned around and was shot two more times in the front. All three shots came from the same direction. Therefore, they could have all been from the same gun and the same shooter. In fact, they almost certainly were.

I never understood the "two shooters" theory. :shrug:
iheartwilson
May 25 2014, 10:56 PM
Nick turned around after the first shot and was looking at the shooter when being shot some more.


Oh! Thanks to all three of you, I understand now.
I hadn't realized about him turning around.
Thanks everyone for the clarification!
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Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 10:42 PM
sillibella
May 25 2014, 09:50 PM
Blake kinda talked about that in his interview with MF. He played it like the first shot just startled him and he didn't know what was happening, like he'd gotten hit with something that hurt him so he turns around to see what the hell was going on and that's when he gets shot a second and third time from the same direction as the first. He looks down, sees that he is bleeding profusely, and that's when he realized that he's been shot and is dying. Pretty much this means that there was only one shooter that was standing in the same place the whole time but because he turned around, he got shot in the back and the front.

It also means that, even though not everybody was a fan of Nick, Days lost a damn fine actor when he left, imo.
Re: the bolded...I'm not sure how the way that Blake Berris played that scene means that he's a "damn fine actor". That's how I'd react to getting shot from behind, then getting shot two more times in the front, too, and I'm not even an actor. It's just common sense, IMO.
I've seen a few soap deaths/injuries by gunshot in the past that looked nowhere as realistic as Nick's, imo. I appreciate the fact that obviously Blake had thought through the scene, unlike some other actors, and wanted to make it look as good as possible. That being said, I think that Blake is a great actor for quite a few reasons and his death scene is just one of them. I am not a Nick fan but I really like Blake as an actor. I know that you have expressed your distaste for him and his character in the past and it's cool to agree to disagree.
Edited by sillibella, May 25 2014, 11:31 PM.
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sillibella
May 25 2014, 11:24 PM
Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 10:42 PM
sillibella
May 25 2014, 09:50 PM
Blake kinda talked about that in his interview with MF. He played it like the first shot just startled him and he didn't know what was happening, like he'd gotten hit with something that hurt him so he turns around to see what the hell was going on and that's when he gets shot a second and third time from the same direction as the first. He looks down, sees that he is bleeding profusely, and that's when he realized that he's been shot and is dying. Pretty much this means that there was only one shooter that was standing in the same place the whole time but because he turned around, he got shot in the back and the front.

It also means that, even though not everybody was a fan of Nick, Days lost a damn fine actor when he left, imo.
Re: the bolded...I'm not sure how the way that Blake Berris played that scene means that he's a "damn fine actor". That's how I'd react to getting shot from behind, then getting shot two more times in the front, too, and I'm not even an actor. It's just common sense, IMO.
I've seen a few soap deaths/injuries by gunshot in the past that looked nowhere as realistic as Nick's, imo. I appreciate the fact that obviously Blake had thought through the scene (unlike some other actors) and wanted to make it look as good as possible. That being said, I think that Blake is a great actor for quite a few reasons and his death scene is just one of them. I am not a Nick fan but I really like Blake as an actor. I know that you have expressed your distaste for him and his character in the past and it's cool to agree to disagree.
Who do you think killed Nick?
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sillibella
May 25 2014, 11:24 PM
Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 10:42 PM
sillibella
May 25 2014, 09:50 PM
Blake kinda talked about that in his interview with MF. He played it like the first shot just startled him and he didn't know what was happening, like he'd gotten hit with something that hurt him so he turns around to see what the hell was going on and that's when he gets shot a second and third time from the same direction as the first. He looks down, sees that he is bleeding profusely, and that's when he realized that he's been shot and is dying. Pretty much this means that there was only one shooter that was standing in the same place the whole time but because he turned around, he got shot in the back and the front.

It also means that, even though not everybody was a fan of Nick, Days lost a damn fine actor when he left, imo.
Re: the bolded...I'm not sure how the way that Blake Berris played that scene means that he's a "damn fine actor". That's how I'd react to getting shot from behind, then getting shot two more times in the front, too, and I'm not even an actor. It's just common sense, IMO.
I've seen a few soap deaths/injuries by gunshot in the past that looked nowhere as realistic as Nick's, imo. I appreciate the fact that obviously Blake had thought through the scene, unlike some other actors, and wanted to make it look as good as possible. That being said, I think that Blake is a great actor for quite a few reasons and his death scene is just one of them. I am not a Nick fan but I really like Blake as an actor. I know that you have expressed your distaste for him and his character in the past and it's cool to agree to disagree.
Who do you think killed Nick and agree he is an excellent actor
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DaysAddiction
May 25 2014, 11:31 PM
sillibella
May 25 2014, 11:24 PM
Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 10:42 PM
sillibella
May 25 2014, 09:50 PM
Blake kinda talked about that in his interview with MF. He played it like the first shot just startled him and he didn't know what was happening, like he'd gotten hit with something that hurt him so he turns around to see what the hell was going on and that's when he gets shot a second and third time from the same direction as the first. He looks down, sees that he is bleeding profusely, and that's when he realized that he's been shot and is dying. Pretty much this means that there was only one shooter that was standing in the same place the whole time but because he turned around, he got shot in the back and the front.

It also means that, even though not everybody was a fan of Nick, Days lost a damn fine actor when he left, imo.
Re: the bolded...I'm not sure how the way that Blake Berris played that scene means that he's a "damn fine actor". That's how I'd react to getting shot from behind, then getting shot two more times in the front, too, and I'm not even an actor. It's just common sense, IMO.
I've seen a few soap deaths/injuries by gunshot in the past that looked nowhere as realistic as Nick's, imo. I appreciate the fact that obviously Blake had thought through the scene (unlike some other actors) and wanted to make it look as good as possible. That being said, I think that Blake is a great actor for quite a few reasons and his death scene is just one of them. I am not a Nick fan but I really like Blake as an actor. I know that you have expressed your distaste for him and his character in the past and it's cool to agree to disagree.
Who do you think killed Nick?
Gabi. I can't see it playing out any other way. There have been way too many hints on the episodes following the murder we've seen and from what we know about the spoilers surrounding the killer's leaving and Gabi's leaving, it all adds up to her being the killer. I'm not exactly a Gabi fan but I hope she just goes to jail or a mental hospital, if she pleads insanity, so she can come back in the future if the writers ever think of another story for her.
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sillibella
May 25 2014, 11:36 PM
DaysAddiction
May 25 2014, 11:31 PM
sillibella
May 25 2014, 11:24 PM
Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 10:42 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepIt also means that, even though not everybody was a fan of Nick, Days lost a damn fine actor when he left, imo.
I've seen a few soap deaths/injuries by gunshot in the past that looked nowhere as realistic as Nick's, imo. I appreciate the fact that obviously Blake had thought through the scene (unlike some other actors) and wanted to make it look as good as possible. That being said, I think that Blake is a great actor for quite a few reasons and his death scene is just one of them. I am not a Nick fan but I really like Blake as an actor. I know that you have expressed your distaste for him and his character in the past and it's cool to agree to disagree.
Who do you think killed Nick?
Gabi. I can't see it playing out any other way. There have been way too many hints on the episodes following the murder we've seen and from what we know about the spoilers surrounding the killer's leaving and Gabi's leaving, it all adds up to her being the killer. I'm not exactly a Gabi fan but I hope she just goes to jail or a mental hospital, if she pleads insanity, so she can come back in the future if the writers ever think of another story for her.
Me neither. I cannot stand Gabi. What she did to Melanie is absolutely horrible and she is just annoying. I hope they don't replace her. I hope they get rid of her altogether
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Missed opportunities if they don't (and they probably won't) play the two shooter card and I still think Gabi being the murderer is just lazy.
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PALMommy
May 25 2014, 11:52 PM
Missed opportunities if they don't (and they probably won't) play the two shooter card and I still think Gabi being the murderer is just lazy.
Oh gosh effing hate that if they killed Gabi! I cannot stand her but they cannot just kill off every character that leaves
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sillibella
May 25 2014, 11:24 PM
Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 10:42 PM
sillibella
May 25 2014, 09:50 PM
Blake kinda talked about that in his interview with MF. He played it like the first shot just startled him and he didn't know what was happening, like he'd gotten hit with something that hurt him so he turns around to see what the hell was going on and that's when he gets shot a second and third time from the same direction as the first. He looks down, sees that he is bleeding profusely, and that's when he realized that he's been shot and is dying. Pretty much this means that there was only one shooter that was standing in the same place the whole time but because he turned around, he got shot in the back and the front.

It also means that, even though not everybody was a fan of Nick, Days lost a damn fine actor when he left, imo.
Re: the bolded...I'm not sure how the way that Blake Berris played that scene means that he's a "damn fine actor". That's how I'd react to getting shot from behind, then getting shot two more times in the front, too, and I'm not even an actor. It's just common sense, IMO.
I've seen a few soap deaths/injuries by gunshot in the past that looked nowhere as realistic as Nick's, imo. I appreciate the fact that obviously Blake had thought through the scene, unlike some other actors, and wanted to make it look as good as possible. That being said, I think that Blake is a great actor for quite a few reasons and his death scene is just one of them. I am not a Nick fan but I really like Blake as an actor. I know that you have expressed your distaste for him and his character in the past and it's cool to agree to disagree.
Don't get me wrong -- I'm not criticizing your opinion that he's a "damn fine actor" itself. I clearly disagree with it, but it is still your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it. I just don't think that particular example does anything to support your argument that he's a "damn fine actor".

If I get hit from behind with something, I'm going to turn around to find the source of the impact. That's only natural. If I then get hit two more times in the torso, I'm going to look down to see what I was hit with. Again, that's only natural. I don't see how that could not occur to any actor, frankly.

Beyond that, though, Blake Berris' story doesn't really add up, based on the way that you described it and the earlier quote that Kaha provided from (what I assume was) that same interview. (I'll reiterate here that I didn't read the interview, since I'm not a fan of the actor.) If this was really all just his decision, as opposed to something that he was directed to do in the script or in talks with the director, that doesn't fit with his other claim that he was told to point to his killer and he had to drag the killer's identity out of people so that he would know who to point toward. If the reaction to his shooting was really left up to him to decide -- meaning that he could have chosen to take all three shots from behind, but he didn't because he's a "damn fine actor" -- then there's no way that the writers and directors could have guaranteed that Nick would have seen his killer, and if he hadn't seen his killer, then he wouldn't have been able to then attempt to point to that killer in the next scene.

I find it far more likely that the writers and directors called for Nick to turn around after the impact of the first shot because they knew, just as I pointed out earlier, that doing so would be the natural, common-sense reaction to such a situation.
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It is very unclear to me why Gabi killed Nick. I really do hope it becomes more clear in the next few weeks because as of now it makes no sense to me at all. If it's clear to anyone please explain it to me?
Edited by DaysAddiction, May 26 2014, 01:04 AM.
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May 26 2014, 12:38 AM
It is very unclear to me why Gabi killed Nick. I really do hope it becomes more clear in the next few weeks because as of now it makes no sense to me at all.
The build up to it really sucked. I think the story they tried to tell was Gabi was getting close to Nick to try to protect everyone else, but ultimately snapping. But that's just my best guess of what they were trying to do since they pretty much failed at showing a cohesive motive on-screen.
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May 26 2014, 12:59 AM
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May 26 2014, 12:38 AM
It is very unclear to me why Gabi killed Nick. I really do hope it becomes more clear in the next few weeks because as of now it makes no sense to me at all.
The build up to it really sucked. I think the story they tried to tell was Gabi was getting close to Nick to try to protect everyone else, but ultimately snapping. But that's just my best guess of what they were trying to do since they pretty much failed at showing a cohesive motive on-screen.
That's really stupid lmao They should have made it more clear. I never did like Gabi after what she did to Melanie and I don't think she's that great of an actress. I'm so glad she is leaving. I just wish she left with more dignity. I don't like that Nick is killed off. He is an asshole character but I don't think he deserved to die and he made the show interesting. His acting I will miss


Edited by DaysAddiction, May 26 2014, 01:18 AM.
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Monday, June 2, 2014
Eric confronts Nicole over her deception!

Jennifer ponders the fallout of her decision.

Tuesday, June 3, 2014

Protective of Rafe, Sami rips into a stunned Jordan.

Brady loses it when John tries to come between him and Theresa.

Wednesday, June 4, 2014
Nick’s murderer prepares for life in prison – but has one last confession to make.

Ben is alarmed when Paige recognizes him.
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May 26 2014, 12:59 AM
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May 26 2014, 12:38 AM
It is very unclear to me why Gabi killed Nick. I really do hope it becomes more clear in the next few weeks because as of now it makes no sense to me at all.
The build up to it really sucked. I think the story they tried to tell was Gabi was getting close to Nick to try to protect everyone else, but ultimately snapping. But that's just my best guess of what they were trying to do since they pretty much failed at showing a cohesive motive on-screen.
I am not sure what story they were trying to tell, but what happened from my point of view was that Gabi was going along with Nick to protect herself. I keep remembering that she said she handed Ari to him because if she did not he might have retaliated against her. Then it seems she fell for the lies. To me there is no other explanation for all of the arguments and being willing to sleep with him. Finally, with the custody agreement, he began pushing her and she finally caught on that he was controlling her as well and there was nothing she could do. I do not know that at anytime she was thinking about everybody else. She never objected to or even suggested she was uncomfortable with his treatment of anyone else and she even encouraged him to target Sami. I know they had a couple of characters throw that out there, but her actions were all in support of Nick up until he told her to keep the custody agreement as is. At that point he was making her do something she did not want to do. I think that realizing he could and would control her like everyone else made her feel like she had no way out and that is why she killed him. She might have seen how it would free everyone else from him as well, but doing anything (even placating Nick) for them has just not been shown in my eyes.
Edited by Angelsmile, May 26 2014, 03:07 PM.
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