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SOD: Nicole's secret exposed
Topic Started: May 23 2014, 01:15 AM (8,155 Views)
Kaha
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ShaneDOOLFan
May 24 2014, 12:19 PM
Even though Im not a Daniel fan or Shawn Christian fan for that matter, the story itself sucks because of the writing of Nicole. The writers having Nicole hide and shred the evidence made me lose investment in the character and Eric/Nicole pairing. It was a bad move used just to create angst.

There are several other things they could have done that wouldn't have set the character of Nicole back.
Eric and Nicole had a plenty of good reasons to have major angst without making Nicole betray Eric like that. Eric was raped by a woman, it was natural for him to develop intimacy issues. They could've also brought someone from his past -- from his days in Congo or Colorado or anywhere else.

So.. I agree with you, this was a major failure on the part of the writers and has little to do with Daniel's involvement.
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Kaha
May 24 2014, 01:31 PM
ShaneDOOLFan
May 24 2014, 12:19 PM
Even though Im not a Daniel fan or Shawn Christian fan for that matter, the story itself sucks because of the writing of Nicole. The writers having Nicole hide and shred the evidence made me lose investment in the character and Eric/Nicole pairing. It was a bad move used just to create angst.

There are several other things they could have done that wouldn't have set the character of Nicole back.
Eric and Nicole had a plenty of good reasons to have major angst without making Nicole betray Eric like that. Eric was raped by a woman, it was natural for him to develop intimacy issues. They could've also brought someone from his past -- from his days in Congo or Colorado or anywhere else.

So.. I agree with you, this was a major failure on the part of the writers and has little to do with Daniel's involvement.
So, question...how are they fixable and rootable again?

I personally think Nicole needs to get in some kind of danger that will wake up Eric up from his funk they are about to be in. I do think Nicole will get find out she is pregnant, but I don't want Eric with her simply because she is having his baby. I want Eric to forgive her and show Nicole she was his first choice all along. They have to work through those trust issues too. It might be a long road, but I think they are still endgame!:)
Edited by AmbernOK, May 24 2014, 01:59 PM.
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AZGVfangirl


Does anyone think that Nicole will end up sleeping with Daniel when all this blows us and there's going to be a who the daddy s/l? I honestly don't care who Nicole ends up with as long as she ends up happy and with a baby
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AZGVfangirl
May 24 2014, 02:11 PM
Does anyone think that Nicole will end up sleeping with Daniel when all this blows us and there's going to be a who the daddy s/l? I honestly don't care who Nicole ends up with as long as she ends up happy and with a baby
No, and only because Eve is coming back to be Dannifer angst. Nicole is really going to be trying to get Eric back. If she sleeps with Daniel, count me out and put a pitchfork in ERICOLE. By now the writers have to realize what a dumbass move the shredding was. Now with Melanie potentially coming back, Daniel is going to have enough crap on his plate.

Once again, #FreeEricole
Edited by AmbernOK, May 24 2014, 02:20 PM.
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phloe3


The magazine says Nicole and JJ have a run in and she thinks Daniel told him about her secret. Jennifer overhears a conversation the next episode I think
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Kaha
May 24 2014, 01:31 PM
ShaneDOOLFan
May 24 2014, 12:19 PM
Even though Im not a Daniel fan or Shawn Christian fan for that matter, the story itself sucks because of the writing of Nicole. The writers having Nicole hide and shred the evidence made me lose investment in the character and Eric/Nicole pairing. It was a bad move used just to create angst.

There are several other things they could have done that wouldn't have set the character of Nicole back.
Eric and Nicole had a plenty of good reasons to have major angst without making Nicole betray Eric like that. Eric was raped by a woman, it was natural for him to develop intimacy issues. They could've also brought someone from his past -- from his days in Congo or Colorado or anywhere else.

So.. I agree with you, this was a major failure on the part of the writers and has little to do with Daniel's involvement.
The Daniel involvement just makes it unpleasant and painful to watch.

I can handle Nicole doing bad things.

I just can't handle her doing bad things with Daniel along for the ride.


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Sariah
May 23 2014, 09:21 AM
What has AZ done but be a loyal employee and (most of the time) a great actress? Why does this show feel the need to continually crap all over her?

But they aren't crapping all over her. Arianne has some of the best, most meaty stories on the show and she kills them. Yeah they're crapping on Nicole, but the actor is getting stories that connect with so many women that even when she's doing the wrong thing, she's the one rooted for. I know it seems shitty that she never gets to be happy, but happy on a soap doesn't give much job security.
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The whole thing has become painful to watch! I had my hopes in ericole but now, it's just crap. I even skipped from page 1 to 4 cause I can't take it anymore. I love Nicole and AZ and am sick if the regression since right after they admitted their feelings in the basement. TPTB have totally ruined them!!!
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Lady Evol
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I think it's easier for me to accept this because I hate ericole. Regardless of chemistry or history, from the moment he accused her of rape and they had those terrible scenes, I would never ship that shit. If this is what it takes to break them up, let's get it over with- like ripping off a bandaid.
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So incredibly lame.
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Lady Evol
May 24 2014, 10:28 PM
I think it's easier for me to accept this because I hate ericole. Regardless of chemistry or history, from the moment he accused her of rape and they had those terrible scenes, I would never ship that shit. If this is what it takes to break them up, let's get it over with- like ripping off a bandaid.
I don't think the rape accusations should be a deal breaker. I mean, it was painful for Nicole but Eric was not deliberately trying to hurt her. He was confused and in pain. And let's not forget that Nicole had something to do with Eric jumping to that conclusion. On t Father Matt's urging, she was acting cagey and behaving suspiciously around Eric. This was a really difficult period for Eric. He was sleep deprived and he was having nightmares about a blond woman. When you add that to Nicole's odd behavior, the evidence and the hotel clerk's description of the women, poor Eric came to the only plausible conclusion. It was painful for him but I can't blame him for coming to that conclusion.
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Kaha
May 24 2014, 11:03 PM
Lady Evol
May 24 2014, 10:28 PM
I think it's easier for me to accept this because I hate ericole. Regardless of chemistry or history, from the moment he accused her of rape and they had those terrible scenes, I would never ship that shit. If this is what it takes to break them up, let's get it over with- like ripping off a bandaid.
I don't think the rape accusations should be a deal breaker. I mean, it was painful for Nicole but Eric was not deliberately trying to hurt her. He was confused and in pain. And let's not forget that Nicole had something to do with Eric jumping to that conclusion. On t Father Matt's urging, she was acting cagey and behaving suspiciously around Eric. This was a really difficult period for Eric. He was sleep deprived and he was having nightmares about a blond woman. When you add that to Nicole's odd behavior, the evidence and the hotel clerk's description of the women, poor Eric came to the only plausible conclusion. It was painful for him but I can't blame him for coming to that conclusion.
It might not be for Nicole, but as a viewer it definitely was. He was just one more guy she was pouring her soul out to who was calling her a liar and breaking her heart. I know in soaps, his ott, bullheaded, insulting, past throwing in her face act is pretty normal, but it struck me as emotionally abusive. And when he 180-ed and suddenly was in love with her... Ehh. I never felt it.

And if they're breaking up I'd rather it be some dumb thing she's done instead of him breaking her heart when she's actually doing everything right.
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Lady Evol
May 24 2014, 10:23 PM
Sariah
May 23 2014, 09:21 AM
What has AZ done but be a loyal employee and (most of the time) a great actress? Why does this show feel the need to continually crap all over her?

But they aren't crapping all over her. Arianne has some of the best, most meaty stories on the show and she kills them. Yeah they're crapping on Nicole, but the actor is getting stories that connect with so many women that even when she's doing the wrong thing, she's the one rooted for. I know it seems shitty that she never gets to be happy, but happy on a soap doesn't give much job security.
I'd believe that if the current story wasn't written so shoddily and was just full of repetitive Daniel praise.

If it was a good story it wouldn't bother me what Nicole had done.
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phloe3


Look at it this way. It's almost over and then they can move on from it. Eric should know by the end of the week. SOD said he makes a stunning announcement
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I can't believe the writers thought turning Nicole into an annoying character was a proper way to provide ericole angst. As was pointed out,they could gone down other avenues than Nicole betraying him with evidence concealment and a ton of lies. For me anyway,this just makes me want to see Nicole get her comeuppance,not see them happy as a couple.
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fundays13
May 25 2014, 01:22 PM
I can't believe the writers thought turning Nicole into an annoying character was a proper way to provide ericole angst. As was pointed out,they could gone down other avenues than Nicole betraying him with evidence concealment and a ton of lies. For me anyway,this just makes me want to see Nicole get her comeuppance,not see them happy as a couple.
To be fair, they didn't really "turn Nicole into" something that she isn't in order to do this story. This is who Nicole is. If anything, the part of the story where she was "turned into" something that she isn't was the part of the story that a lot of people here are praising and want to return to -- the part where she was working at the church.
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Like someone else mentioned, I can take Nicole doing eyebrow-raising things as long as Daniel is not stuck up her ass 24/7. Shredgate is bad enough without these repetitive scenes between them about "telling Eric the truth." Talk about Groundhog Day...
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Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 02:57 PM
fundays13
May 25 2014, 01:22 PM
I can't believe the writers thought turning Nicole into an annoying character was a proper way to provide ericole angst. As was pointed out,they could gone down other avenues than Nicole betraying him with evidence concealment and a ton of lies. For me anyway,this just makes me want to see Nicole get her comeuppance,not see them happy as a couple.
To be fair, they didn't really "turn Nicole into" something that she isn't in order to do this story. This is who Nicole is. If anything, the part of the story where she was "turned into" something that she isn't was the part of the story that a lot of people here are praising and want to return to -- the part where she was working at the church.
The show is going to get very dull if characters never evolve or learn anything from their experiences.

If the show is Person A does Type A things all the time dull.

I want to see Person B put under so much pressure they resort to Type A activities and everyone is surprised.

Or person A surprises everyone by reacting to a situation in a type B manner.

There just needs to be an understandable reason as to why they are doing what they are doing.
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May 25 2014, 02:57 PM
fundays13
May 25 2014, 01:22 PM
I can't believe the writers thought turning Nicole into an annoying character was a proper way to provide ericole angst. As was pointed out,they could gone down other avenues than Nicole betraying him with evidence concealment and a ton of lies. For me anyway,this just makes me want to see Nicole get her comeuppance,not see them happy as a couple.
To be fair, they didn't really "turn Nicole into" something that she isn't in order to do this story. This is who Nicole is. If anything, the part of the story where she was "turned into" something that she isn't was the part of the story that a lot of people here are praising and want to return to -- the part where she was working at the church.
She was easier to accept in the early stages of ericole because ,at lwast to me,she deserved sympathy for being falsely accused of raping Eric. It seemed the writers were on the right track with this love story. As soon as she decided to hide evidence and lie,i dropped any empathy i felt for nicole and felt disgusted with her. I dont like lying,manipulative nicole. The past couple of weeks of episodes have been particularly painful to watch.

Now it appears she is going to be so ticked off at daniel for her failures ahes going to end their friendship. :rolleyes: unfreaking believable. The way shes been behaving lately is a new low even by her standards.
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concerned
May 25 2014, 05:57 PM
The show is going to get very dull if characters never evolve or learn anything from their experiences.

If the show is Person A does Type A things all the time dull.

I want to see Person B put under so much pressure they resort to Type A activities and everyone is surprised.

Or person A surprises everyone by reacting to a situation in a type B manner.

There just needs to be an understandable reason as to why they are doing what they are doing.

So. much. this.

Amen.
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