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SOD: Nicole's secret exposed
Topic Started: May 23 2014, 01:15 AM (8,154 Views)
Will&Sonny


concerned
May 25 2014, 05:57 PM
Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 02:57 PM
fundays13
May 25 2014, 01:22 PM
I can't believe the writers thought turning Nicole into an annoying character was a proper way to provide ericole angst. As was pointed out,they could gone down other avenues than Nicole betraying him with evidence concealment and a ton of lies. For me anyway,this just makes me want to see Nicole get her comeuppance,not see them happy as a couple.
To be fair, they didn't really "turn Nicole into" something that she isn't in order to do this story. This is who Nicole is. If anything, the part of the story where she was "turned into" something that she isn't was the part of the story that a lot of people here are praising and want to return to -- the part where she was working at the church.
The show is going to get very dull if characters never evolve or learn anything from their experiences.

If the show is Person A does Type A things all the time dull.

I want to see Person B put under so much pressure they resort to Type A activities and everyone is surprised.

Or person A surprises everyone by reacting to a situation in a type B manner.

There just needs to be an understandable reason as to why they are doing what they are doing.
And yet we currently have another thread active where people are complaining because a character was changed from a brat into a heroine during her first stint on the show. And in another thread that's active at this time, people are mourning the fact that a character they loved as a scheming vixen will likely leave the canvas in a few months as a vastly different type of character. And in another thread that's active at this time, people are crying foul because someone who is about to be revealed as a murderer isn't the kind of character who would do that sort of thing.

Damned if you do....
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nananana7
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^ As "concerned" said:
There just needs to be an *UNDERSTANDABLE* reason as to *WHY* they are doing what they are doing.
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Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 06:31 PM
concerned
May 25 2014, 05:57 PM
Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 02:57 PM
fundays13
May 25 2014, 01:22 PM
I can't believe the writers thought turning Nicole into an annoying character was a proper way to provide ericole angst. As was pointed out,they could gone down other avenues than Nicole betraying him with evidence concealment and a ton of lies. For me anyway,this just makes me want to see Nicole get her comeuppance,not see them happy as a couple.
To be fair, they didn't really "turn Nicole into" something that she isn't in order to do this story. This is who Nicole is. If anything, the part of the story where she was "turned into" something that she isn't was the part of the story that a lot of people here are praising and want to return to -- the part where she was working at the church.
The show is going to get very dull if characters never evolve or learn anything from their experiences.

If the show is Person A does Type A things all the time dull.

I want to see Person B put under so much pressure they resort to Type A activities and everyone is surprised.

Or person A surprises everyone by reacting to a situation in a type B manner.

There just needs to be an understandable reason as to why they are doing what they are doing.
And yet we currently have another thread active where people are complaining because a character was changed from a brat into a heroine during her first stint on the show. And in another thread that's active at this time, people are mourning the fact that a character they loved as a scheming vixen will likely leave the canvas in a few months as a vastly different type of character. And in another thread that's active at this time, people are crying foul because someone who is about to be revealed as a murderer isn't the kind of character who would do that sort of thing.

Damned if you do....
I think you're lumping so many unrelated things together. People are objecting to OOC action for each character for different reasons. Characters can act OOC or evolve, and that's fine but there needs to be a proper transition and a reasonable motivation for it to be believable.
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nananana7
May 25 2014, 06:38 PM
^ As "concerned" said:
There just needs to be an *UNDERSTANDABLE* reason as to *WHY* they are doing what they are doing.
It's a bit premature to assume that there isn't in the case of the murderer.

There's an understandable reason why Nicole did what she did. A lot of people just don't seem to like that reason. That doesn't make it any less understandable. (And I'm not just talking about the fact that it's just who she is.)
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There's no justification in Daniel being shoved all up in Ericole's story so much. That Mofo clown is around too damned much. This story isn't about him. He wasn't the one raped/drugged/falsely accused. Yet, for days on end, we're subjected to Daniel's lamentations, etc. As for the shredded evidence, heck yeah, that's Nicole's fault and hers alone; and she'll have to face the music. But do I want to see her argue with Daniel about it 5 days a week? No. Do I want to see how it affects Dannifer's relationship? No. And this Wtfery Danicole friendship needs to end like NOW. It ain't none of his bizness, and neither is it his girlfriend. Of course, naturally, the writers are turning Ericole's angst into Dannifer angst. That's the shit I ain't got time for.
As for the evidence, I'm ready for this shit to hit the fan. After the basement scenes, the show shifted focus from Ericole's love story to a plot point that simply sucked. But, it is what it is. Can't change what happened. It did. And I'm just as invested in them as I was from day one. Not going to let a stupid plot ruin my enjoyment of my favorite couple. So, I say hell yeah to a full-on exposure, blow it wide open because I'm so ready for Ericole to move to their next arc and hopefully it won't include Mofo Dr. Effin Daniel Jonas.
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Will&Sonny
May 25 2014, 06:49 PM
nananana7
May 25 2014, 06:38 PM
^ As "concerned" said:
There just needs to be an *UNDERSTANDABLE* reason as to *WHY* they are doing what they are doing.
It's a bit premature to assume that there isn't in the case of the murderer.

There's an understandable reason why Nicole did what she did. A lot of people just don't seem to like that reason. That doesn't make it any less understandable. (And I'm not just talking about the fact that it's just who she is.)


I agree

I don't find the shredding of the evidence as out of character for Nicole at all. She didn't do it to hurt Eric. She did it because she loves him and wants a future with him. Nicole is a better person than she used to be, but she's till capable of selfish behavior. She made a bad decision and is now suffering the consequences. Soap characters have been doing that for years. I still believe Ericole is endgame but neither of them is ready to get married. There's still a lot of story to be told for them first. I kind of think Nicole may be pregnant and finally have her miracle baby. I'm curious to see what Eric does now. Before he didn't have the option of going back to the priesthood. He has said that if God wanted him to be a priest then the evidence would have been found. Does he really believe that and become a priest again, or does he acknowledge that he loves Nicole even though she betrayed him? My only problem with the storyline is the inclusion of Daniel. He's everywhere. I'm fully expecting him to solve Nick's murder, plan the St. Lukes gala, and expose Jordan's secret past.
Edited by leela46, May 25 2014, 09:12 PM.
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

Will&Sonny
May 23 2014, 05:21 PM
LanaluvsBroe
May 23 2014, 07:01 AM
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Daniel, meanwhile, really wants Nicole to tell Eric what she did. Shawn Christian explains that Daniel is "probably the only person in Salem who knows the good part of Nicole and believes in her."


Really Shawn? Because the man who asked her to marry him doesn't believe in her?
No, actually, it makes perfect sense for Shawn Christian to say that, IMO. Like it or not, Daniel did believe that Nicole was innocent when Eric was convinced that she had raped him.

EDIT: Oops -- I see that Angie79 beat me to this.


Daniel is the only one that see's the good in Nicole but Rafe understands her & Brady just deals with who she is..Imo Eric is still trying to figure Nicole out I mean come on He's been gone from Salem for years..He came back at a point of her life where she wanted to change..But a small part of him still looks at her as that Nicole before he left Salem all those years. You can clearly always see the confused looks on his face everytime he talks to her. :smile:
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Daniel believed Nicole because the writers are worshipping at St. Jonas's altar. I'm beginning to wonder if it was Dr. Jonas who donned the collar instead of Eric since he's so "saintly". The only thing he knows about Nicole is that he humped all over her while she was pregnant and then dumped her for PollyJenn. That's pretty much it.
As for Eric, he's seen Nicole's devious side before in the past, and it's actually an insult to Ericole 1.0 and 2.0 for the writers to insinuate that Daniel knows the in-and-outs of Nicole's character while the man closest to her doesn't.
Just more manure, crap, and baloney to pile on top of his orange behiney.
Help us all if his spawn returns...
We'll never get rid of the bastard.
#FreeEricole from Daniel/Dannifer.
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I don't think being a priest again is an option for him now that he's willingly slept with Nicole. He would feel to guilty.
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This show is so freaking predictable. Same shit different day and it just goes round and round all the couples and all the characters. There is no mystery, no anticipation, no true romance, rootable couples or characters. BAH!!
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For me, Eric and Nicole were over before they even got started.... Besides them not really having a great history, when Eric accused her of raping him, that was a huge strike against them. I also don't feel any substantial chemistry between the actors, and I don't think they physically compliment each other. And I realize that opinion is completely subjective. You either feel a couple or you don't. I tried with these two.
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You know, the sad part is that I WANTED Eric to return before he did and GV ruined the character. Just like when he tried to play Lucky on GH, he just SUCKS as an actor. But yeah, I hate all things Daniel.
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Greg Vaughan is a fantastic actor! I give him and Ari props for having to deal with the shitty ass writing! Not to mention bringing Daniel in anywhere in their story! Eric and Nicole had some great scenes in Nov-February. The guy almost got an Emmy nod, and should have this year. Come on!??
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tylerbo20


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May 23 2014, 09:34 AM
Watching this show has become a chore. I've gone from watching live and being excited by every upcoming show, to watching live while snarking to myself, to watching taped, to watching taped while fast forwarding stuff, to not having the strength to go on and watch.
i think most long term fans my self included watch DAYS from the PVR out of respect for the past aka Marlena with hopes that we will one day return to our glory days...sadly its the Jonas family fun hour now and i will be deleting it from PVR soon.
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This whole storyline is stupid if you ask me =/ Nicole should have just found the evidence, not stredded it and given it to Eric problem solved and start a new storyline with Nicole one that doesn't throw her under the bus
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Sorry I disagree, the only thing I enjoyed him in was Charmed. And only because he wasn't going to be there long.
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Nicole seriously needs a new storyline. I'm tired of this one
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angie37
May 25 2014, 04:07 PM
Like someone else mentioned, I can take Nicole doing eyebrow-raising things as long as Daniel is not stuck up her ass 24/7. Shredgate is bad enough without these repetitive scenes between them about "telling Eric the truth." Talk about Groundhog Day...
Speaking of repetitive, I'm tired of Nicole' s lying. Now its to the point she lies about the most trivial things without batting an eyelash. If she could show remorse for hurting people without trying to justify her actions, .i could forgive her childish,beetchy behavior.

So its true she threatens to kill daniel. Dont care one way or the other abour daniel but this shows nicole is crossing dangerous territory into psycho land. Shw needs time in a mental ward,.
Edited by fundays13, May 29 2014, 04:06 PM.
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lumifan4life85
May 27 2014, 07:13 PM
You know, the sad part is that I WANTED Eric to return before he did and GV ruined the character. Just like when he tried to play Lucky on GH, he just SUCKS as an actor. But yeah, I hate all things Daniel.
Way off base IMO - GV is great - Eric is boring. Gotta see the difference between the two
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fundays13
May 29 2014, 04:05 PM
angie37
May 25 2014, 04:07 PM
Like someone else mentioned, I can take Nicole doing eyebrow-raising things as long as Daniel is not stuck up her ass 24/7. Shredgate is bad enough without these repetitive scenes between them about "telling Eric the truth." Talk about Groundhog Day...
Speaking of repetitive, I'm tired of Nicole' s lying. Now its to the point she lies about the most trivial things without batting an eyelash. If she could show remorse for hurting people without trying to justify her actions, .i could forgive her childish,beetchy behavior.

So its true she threatens to kill daniel. Dont care one way or the other abour daniel but this shows nicole is crossing dangerous territory into psycho land. Shw needs time in a mental ward,.
I don't think she has threatened to kill Daniel just told him they can't be friends anymore.

The killing of Daniel is just pure wish list by some portions of the audience (mainly me).
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