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Topic Started: May 23 2014, 01:28 AM (15,221 Views)
nananana7
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Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:22 PM
nananana7
May 24 2014, 02:27 PM

When Sami was a teen, Sami raped Austin and she stole her baby sister Belle and tried to sell Belle on the black market.
I don't excuse these crimes. But I understand them as the workings of a deranged teenager. I think the show dropped the ball by never getting her treatment for that.
She did get treatment, both alone and with her parents.

Yes, you're right.
I need to go back to my earlier post, and add an edit to say I was wrong about that.

What I should have said was that the writers should have had John/Marlena/Roman pursue/continue the treatment -- or check on it later -- the writers should have had Sami periodically get a psychological examination. At least until she was an adult.

Just as the writers should have had Hope get guarantees that Nick was getting treatment, as he was an ex-con that she was supposed to be watching out for.

The writers dropped the ball with both Sami and Nick with FOLLOW-UP on psych care.
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nananana7
May 24 2014, 03:32 PM
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:22 PM
nananana7
May 24 2014, 02:27 PM

When Sami was a teen, Sami raped Austin and she stole her baby sister Belle and tried to sell Belle on the black market.
I don't excuse these crimes. But I understand them as the workings of a deranged teenager. I think the show dropped the ball by never getting her treatment for that.
She did get treatment, both alone and with her parents.

Yes, you're right.
I need to go back to my earlier post, and add an edit to say I was wrong about that.

What I should have said was that the writers should have had John/Marlena/Roman pursue/continue the treatment -- or check on it later -- the writers should have had Sami periodically get a psychological examination. At least until she was an adult.

Just as the writers should have had Hope get guarantees that Nick was getting treatment, as he was an ex-con that she was supposed to be watching out for.

The writers dropped the ball with both Sami and Nick with FOLLOW-UP on psych care.
Yea, I don't remember if the authorities made her get treatment in some kind of plea deal or what, or if it was even reported to the police. My mind is blank on that one.
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lysie


Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:36 PM
nananana7
May 24 2014, 03:32 PM
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:22 PM
nananana7
May 24 2014, 02:27 PM

When Sami was a teen, Sami raped Austin and she stole her baby sister Belle and tried to sell Belle on the black market.
I don't excuse these crimes. But I understand them as the workings of a deranged teenager. I think the show dropped the ball by never getting her treatment for that.
She did get treatment, both alone and with her parents.

Yes, you're right.
I need to go back to my earlier post, and add an edit to say I was wrong about that.

What I should have said was that the writers should have had John/Marlena/Roman pursue/continue the treatment -- or check on it later -- the writers should have had Sami periodically get a psychological examination. At least until she was an adult.

Just as the writers should have had Hope get guarantees that Nick was getting treatment, as he was an ex-con that she was supposed to be watching out for.

The writers dropped the ball with both Sami and Nick with FOLLOW-UP on psych care.
Yea, I don't remember if the authorities made her get treatment in some kind of plea deal or what, or if it was even reported to the police. My mind is blank on that one.
Roman and Marlena chose not to report it and handle it themselves. And then chose not to give any consequences as part of handling it. :eyeroll: I think the therapy stopped after the affair reveal. I don't remember if they acknowledged stopping it, or if it just stopped being mentioned.
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lysie
May 24 2014, 03:39 PM
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:36 PM
nananana7
May 24 2014, 03:32 PM
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:22 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI think the show dropped the ball by never getting her treatment for that.

Yes, you're right.
I need to go back to my earlier post, and add an edit to say I was wrong about that.

What I should have said was that the writers should have had John/Marlena/Roman pursue/continue the treatment -- or check on it later -- the writers should have had Sami periodically get a psychological examination. At least until she was an adult.

Just as the writers should have had Hope get guarantees that Nick was getting treatment, as he was an ex-con that she was supposed to be watching out for.

The writers dropped the ball with both Sami and Nick with FOLLOW-UP on psych care.
Yea, I don't remember if the authorities made her get treatment in some kind of plea deal or what, or if it was even reported to the police. My mind is blank on that one.
Roman and Marlena chose not to report it and handle it themselves. And then chose not to give any consequences as part of handling it. :eyeroll: I think the therapy stopped after the affair reveal. I don't remember if they acknowledged stopping it, or if it just stopped being mentioned.
Didn't she also get therapy after she was raped by Alan? Or did she refuse to get any? I think Marlena strongly suggested it, but by that time Sami would have nothing to do with her. Then of course she started going after Austin, and ran away.
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lysie


Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:45 PM
lysie
May 24 2014, 03:39 PM
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:36 PM
nananana7
May 24 2014, 03:32 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI think the show dropped the ball by never getting her treatment for that.
Yea, I don't remember if the authorities made her get treatment in some kind of plea deal or what, or if it was even reported to the police. My mind is blank on that one.
Roman and Marlena chose not to report it and handle it themselves. And then chose not to give any consequences as part of handling it. :eyeroll: I think the therapy stopped after the affair reveal. I don't remember if they acknowledged stopping it, or if it just stopped being mentioned.
Didn't she also get therapy after she was raped by Alan? Or did she refuse to get any? I think Marlena strongly suggested it, but by that time Sami would have nothing to do with her. Then of course she started going after Austin, and ran away.
I don't remember if she ever went. I know she initially pushed Marlena away, but then they had that really sweet scene right before she went to court where Sami said she didn't want Marlena to come because she didn't want her to have to hear about the things he did. But I would say that if Marlena suggested/encouraged it at that point, Sami wouldn't have done it.
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lysie
May 24 2014, 03:49 PM
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:45 PM
lysie
May 24 2014, 03:39 PM
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:36 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI think the show dropped the ball by never getting her treatment for that.
Roman and Marlena chose not to report it and handle it themselves. And then chose not to give any consequences as part of handling it. :eyeroll: I think the therapy stopped after the affair reveal. I don't remember if they acknowledged stopping it, or if it just stopped being mentioned.
Didn't she also get therapy after she was raped by Alan? Or did she refuse to get any? I think Marlena strongly suggested it, but by that time Sami would have nothing to do with her. Then of course she started going after Austin, and ran away.
I don't remember if she ever went. I know she initially pushed Marlena away, but then they had that really sweet scene right before she went to court where Sami said she didn't want Marlena to come because she didn't want her to have to hear about the things he did. But I would say that if Marlena suggested/encouraged it at that point, Sami wouldn't have done it.
Oh yea, when Sami let Marlena brush her hair... nice stuff back then.
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nananana7
May 24 2014, 02:27 PM
When Sami was a teen, Sami raped Austin and she stole her baby sister Belle and tried to sell Belle on the black market.
I don't excuse these crimes. But I understand them as the workings of a deranged teenager. I think the show dropped the ball by never getting her treatment for that.
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:22 PM
She did get treatment, both alone and with her parents.
nananana7
May 24 2014, 03:32 PM
Yes, you're right.
I need to go back to my earlier post, and add an edit to say I was wrong about that.

What I should have said was that the writers should have had John/Marlena/Roman pursue/continue the treatment -- or check on it later -- the writers should have had Sami periodically get a psychological examination. At least until she was an adult.

Just as the writers should have had Hope get guarantees that Nick was getting treatment, as he was an ex-con that she was supposed to be watching out for.

The writers dropped the ball with both Sami and Nick with FOLLOW-UP on psych care.
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:36 PM
Yea, I don't remember if the authorities made her get treatment in some kind of plea deal or what, or if it was even reported to the police. My mind is blank on that one.
lysie
May 24 2014, 03:39 PM
Roman and Marlena chose not to report it and handle it themselves. And then chose not to give any consequences as part of handling it. :eyeroll: I think the therapy stopped after the affair reveal. I don't remember if they acknowledged stopping it, or if it just stopped being mentioned.
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:45 PM
Didn't she also get therapy after she was raped by Alan? Or did she refuse to get any? I think Marlena strongly suggested it, but by that time Sami would have nothing to do with her. Then of course she started going after Austin, and ran away.
lysie
May 24 2014, 03:49 PM
I don't remember if she ever went. I know she initially pushed Marlena away, but then they had that really sweet scene right before she went to court where Sami said she didn't want Marlena to come because she didn't want her to have to hear about the things he did. But I would say that if Marlena suggested/encouraged it at that point, Sami wouldn't have done it.

Sami and Nick both tried to get everyone to believe they were "fine".

As adults in their twenties, nobody could force them into treatment unless they were an acute danger to themselves or others.

But older adult relatives should've been discussing that the mental illness and trauma symptoms and manipulation patterns would be something to watch for.

Sometimes manipulation patterns were noticed, but nobody mentioned any possible lingering mental illness.
Edited by nananana7, May 24 2014, 04:00 PM.
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phloe3


How are Hope and Eve related? thanks
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phloe3
May 24 2014, 04:01 PM
How are Hope and Eve related? thanks
Hope's husband Bo is brother to Eve and Theresa's mother Kim.
Hope is their aunt by marriage.

Edit:
Shane is father to both Eve and Theresa.
Kim is Theresa's mother.
Kim is Eve's stepmother.
Eve is not biologically related to Bo,
But, as a family, Hope would still be considered an aunt.
Edited by nananana7, May 24 2014, 04:07 PM.
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phloe3
May 24 2014, 04:01 PM
How are Hope and Eve related? thanks
They aren't really related
Eve's father Shane is married to Kim Brady so Eve is Kim's step-daughter.
Hope is married to Bo Brady, Kim's 1/2 brother.

Now Theresa is Shane & Kim's daughter so Hope is her aunt via her marriage to Bo
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thanks nana and trojangal
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nananana7
May 24 2014, 03:59 PM
nananana7
May 24 2014, 02:27 PM
When Sami was a teen, Sami raped Austin and she stole her baby sister Belle and tried to sell Belle on the black market.
I don't excuse these crimes. But I understand them as the workings of a deranged teenager. I think the show dropped the ball by never getting her treatment for that.
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:22 PM
She did get treatment, both alone and with her parents.
nananana7
May 24 2014, 03:32 PM
Yes, you're right.
I need to go back to my earlier post, and add an edit to say I was wrong about that.

What I should have said was that the writers should have had John/Marlena/Roman pursue/continue the treatment -- or check on it later -- the writers should have had Sami periodically get a psychological examination. At least until she was an adult.

Just as the writers should have had Hope get guarantees that Nick was getting treatment, as he was an ex-con that she was supposed to be watching out for.

The writers dropped the ball with both Sami and Nick with FOLLOW-UP on psych care.
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:36 PM
Yea, I don't remember if the authorities made her get treatment in some kind of plea deal or what, or if it was even reported to the police. My mind is blank on that one.
lysie
May 24 2014, 03:39 PM
Roman and Marlena chose not to report it and handle it themselves. And then chose not to give any consequences as part of handling it. :eyeroll: I think the therapy stopped after the affair reveal. I don't remember if they acknowledged stopping it, or if it just stopped being mentioned.
Rosebud
May 24 2014, 03:45 PM
Didn't she also get therapy after she was raped by Alan? Or did she refuse to get any? I think Marlena strongly suggested it, but by that time Sami would have nothing to do with her. Then of course she started going after Austin, and ran away.
lysie
May 24 2014, 03:49 PM
I don't remember if she ever went. I know she initially pushed Marlena away, but then they had that really sweet scene right before she went to court where Sami said she didn't want Marlena to come because she didn't want her to have to hear about the things he did. But I would say that if Marlena suggested/encouraged it at that point, Sami wouldn't have done it.

Sami and Nick both tried to get everyone to believe they were "fine".

As adults in their twenties, nobody could force them into treatment unless they were an acute danger to themselves or others.

But older adult relatives should've been discussing that the mental illness and trauma symptoms and manipulation patterns would be something to watch for.

Sometimes manipulation patterns were noticed, but nobody mentioned any possible lingering mental illness.
Sami was a teen when she kidnapped Belle, had bulimia, and was raped by Alan.
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yes Sami was a teen when she went through all that.

What I meant was .... when she was a teen, family could force her to psych treatment.

After she was an adult in her twenties, they couldn't force her. But they should've looked out for her.
Edited by nananana7, May 24 2014, 04:13 PM.
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Sami was falsely accused and convicted and sentenced to death for Franco's murder -- and actually went to death row. And the lethal injection for her death sentence had actually begun. The charges were dropped at last second, and she had to be hospitalized to verify the chemicals hadn't damaged her.

That was pretty traumatic. Did Sami ever get any psych treatment for that experience?
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nananana7
May 24 2014, 04:11 PM
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yes Sami was a teen when she went through all that.

What I meant was .... when she was a teen, family could force her to psych treatment.

After she was an adult in her twenties, they couldn't force her. But they should've looked out for her.
They tried, but she was completely defiant, and once she had Will it seemed like the show forgot most of the past stuff she'd been through or done.
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trojangal
May 24 2014, 04:06 PM
phloe3
May 24 2014, 04:01 PM
How are Hope and Eve related? thanks
They aren't really related
Eve's father Shane is married to Kim Brady so Eve is Kim's step-daughter.
Hope is married to Bo Brady, Kim's 1/2 brother.

Now Theresa is Shane & Kim's daughter so Hope is her aunt via her marriage to Bo
Bo is not Kim's half-brother, he's her brother. Period! Shawn Brady Sr. was Bo's father. Biology doesn't always trump everything else.
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May 24 2014, 04:31 PM
trojangal
May 24 2014, 04:06 PM
phloe3
May 24 2014, 04:01 PM
How are Hope and Eve related? thanks
They aren't really related
Eve's father Shane is married to Kim Brady so Eve is Kim's step-daughter.
Hope is married to Bo Brady, Kim's 1/2 brother.

Now Theresa is Shane & Kim's daughter so Hope is her aunt via her marriage to Bo
Bo is not Kim's half-brother, he's her brother. Period! Shawn Brady Sr. was Bo's father. Biology doesn't always trump everything else.
Bo's bio dad was Victor that is a fact.
Now his DAD was Shawn Brady in every sense if the word.
However when explaining family trees in Salem you have to differentiate just in case lol
Edited by trojangal, May 24 2014, 04:37 PM.
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Did Hope and Eve ever interact? I think the characters were only in Salem at the same time for a very short time period.
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trojangal
May 24 2014, 04:33 PM
Kaha
May 24 2014, 04:31 PM
trojangal
May 24 2014, 04:06 PM
phloe3
May 24 2014, 04:01 PM
How are Hope and Eve related? thanks
They aren't really related
Eve's father Shane is married to Kim Brady so Eve is Kim's step-daughter.
Hope is married to Bo Brady, Kim's 1/2 brother.

Now Theresa is Shane & Kim's daughter so Hope is her aunt via her marriage to Bo
Bo is not Kim's half-brother, he's her brother. Period! Shawn Brady Sr. was Bo's father. Biology doesn't always trump everything else.
Bo's bio dad was Victor
his DAD was Shawn Brady in every sense if the word.
That's why I am saying he's a full Brady regardless of biology. When you say he's Kim's half-brother then you're minimizing Shawn's role.
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jam6242
May 24 2014, 04:36 PM
Did Hope and Eve ever interact? I think the characters were only in Salem at the same time for a very short time period.
Hope died around the time of "the Cruise of Deception" & I remember Eve being around before the cruise
but I don't remember them interacting. Then again I watched those scenes over 20 years ago probably
once live so I could have missed some stuff
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