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Why are people thinking that Gabi isn't going to prison? Did I miss something?
I think I missed that too actually. I'm just responding to people's posts but I'm not sure what websites have spoilers about Gabi not being carted off to prison. I'm confused myself. I usually go on dayscafe for spoilers but I haven't gone on there in awhile There is a spoiler that says Gabi leaves to start a new life or something like that however, I think the phrasing is just misleading... no where does it say that Gabi does pay for the crimes she confessed too... I think days wants to keep whatever Gabi plea deal is underwrap until that June 12th episode airs I don't think the wanted spoilers telling viewer what it was...
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Jun 7 2014, 06:14 PM
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I really hope Eric forgives Nicole. While she should have given him the papers instead of stredding them I still think he should give her another chance. She does love him. The whole reason she didn't tell him is being she knew he would leave her to continue being a priest
I think he should forgive her as well. She forgave him for accusing her of drugging/raping him . Yes she should have told him of the evidence she found, but she was afraid of losing him. Now it looks like she has anyway. She needs to learn that honesty is always best. She was so afraid the truth was going to come out, so it would have been better coming from her in the long run. Now, the way it happened, she has lost his trust in her completely.
The two are not the same and not even close. Eric did not deliberately accuse her of rape. It was a horrible thing to face for Nicole but Eric was confused and traumatized. And Nicole aided in his confusion by her caginess and refusal to talk about the events of the night he was raped. What Nicole did was deliberate and calculating. She had many chances to correct her mistake and to come clean but she continued to lie. For completely self-serving reasons she chose to destroy the evidence that exonerated the man she supposedly loved. She had a choice to give Eric his peace of mind and freedom and to clear his name but she chose to robe him of that. What Nicole did was a conscious choice, unlike Eric who's accusation was born out of confusion.
But, that doesn't negate her feelings of hurt and betrayal. He hurt her deeply. She forgave him quite easily, too, if you ask me. He didn't do major groveling or pleading to get back in her good graces. Pretty much, she just let it go. So, IMO, he can't that stance of forgiveness is not an option. And in their relationship, it can't be one-sided where she's open to forgiveness but he isn't. And by now, my harp is probably broken when I compare the shredded papers to other crimes committed by other Salemites. Shredding papers is nothing compared to the rapes, murders, and other things that have been done by others. Those same people are in love, have children, and living happy lives. Guess that's a major reason why I can't understand why Nicole's actions are unforgivable, or why Ericole's relationship should get the death knell. I think the writers are story driven more than concentrated on couples. I almost thing ericole were a plot device to turn nicole into a revenge seeker and provide story for dannifer. Nicole is going to still be in dannifer orbit at least thru the summer
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Jun 7 2014, 06:28 PM
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I really hope Eric forgives Nicole. While she should have given him the papers instead of stredding them I still think he should give her another chance. She does love him. The whole reason she didn't tell him is being she knew he would leave her to continue being a priest
I think he should forgive her as well. She forgave him for accusing her of drugging/raping him . Yes she should have told him of the evidence she found, but she was afraid of losing him. Now it looks like she has anyway. She needs to learn that honesty is always best. She was so afraid the truth was going to come out, so it would have been better coming from her in the long run. Now, the way it happened, she has lost his trust in her completely.
The two are not the same and not even close. Eric did not deliberately accuse her of rape. It was a horrible thing to face for Nicole but Eric was confused and traumatized. And Nicole aided in his confusion by her caginess and refusal to talk about the events of the night he was raped. What Nicole did was deliberate and calculating. She had many chances to correct her mistake and to come clean but she continued to lie. For completely self-serving reasons she chose to destroy the evidence that exonerated the man she supposedly loved. She had a choice to give Eric his peace of mind and freedom and to clear his name but she chose to robe him of that. What Nicole did was a conscious choice, unlike Eric who's accusation was born out of confusion.
But, that doesn't negate her feelings of hurt and betrayal. He hurt her deeply. She forgave him quite easily, too, if you ask me. He didn't do major groveling or pleading to get back in her good graces. Pretty much, she just let it go. So, IMO, he can't that stance of forgiveness is not an option. And in their relationship, it can't be one-sided where she's open to forgiveness but he isn't. And by now, my harp is probably broken when I compare the shredded papers to other crimes committed by other Salemites. Shredding papers is nothing compared to the rapes, murders, and other things that have been done by others. Those same people are in love, have children, and living happy lives. Guess that's a major reason why I can't understand why Nicole's actions are unforgivable, or why Ericole's relationship should get the death knell. But I think characters are different, no? We can't expect Eric's reaction to be the same as Sami's reaction. Also, it took those characters a long time to reach that place of forgiveness and falling into each other's arms.
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Jun 7 2014, 07:01 PM
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Why are people thinking that Gabi isn't going to prison? Did I miss something?
I think I missed that too actually. I'm just responding to people's posts but I'm not sure what websites have spoilers about Gabi not being carted off to prison. I'm confused myself. I usually go on dayscafe for spoilers but I haven't gone on there in awhile
There is a spoiler that says Gabi leaves to start a new life or something like that however, I think the phrasing is just misleading... no where does it say that Gabi does pay for the crimes she confessed too... I think days wants to keep whatever Gabi plea deal is underwrap until that June 12th episode airs I don't think the wanted spoilers telling viewer what it was... Yeah, starting a new life in prison. I'd love for Kate to be helping Gabi skip town before her sentencing and have everything surrounding Gabi be this big question mark because that could potentially make things interesting but I'm pretty sure she'll get time in prison until they think of a new storyline for her or possibly to rarely be heard from again. :shrug:
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Jun 7 2014, 07:05 PM
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The two are not the same and not even close. Eric did not deliberately accuse her of rape. It was a horrible thing to face for Nicole but Eric was confused and traumatized. And Nicole aided in his confusion by her caginess and refusal to talk about the events of the night he was raped. What Nicole did was deliberate and calculating. She had many chances to correct her mistake and to come clean but she continued to lie. For completely self-serving reasons she chose to destroy the evidence that exonerated the man she supposedly loved. She had a choice to give Eric his peace of mind and freedom and to clear his name but she chose to robe him of that. What Nicole did was a conscious choice, unlike Eric who's accusation was born out of confusion.
But, that doesn't negate her feelings of hurt and betrayal. He hurt her deeply. She forgave him quite easily, too, if you ask me. He didn't do major groveling or pleading to get back in her good graces. Pretty much, she just let it go. So, IMO, he can't that stance of forgiveness is not an option. And in their relationship, it can't be one-sided where she's open to forgiveness but he isn't. And by now, my harp is probably broken when I compare the shredded papers to other crimes committed by other Salemites. Shredding papers is nothing compared to the rapes, murders, and other things that have been done by others. Those same people are in love, have children, and living happy lives. Guess that's a major reason why I can't understand why Nicole's actions are unforgivable, or why Ericole's relationship should get the death knell.
But I think characters are different, no? We can't expect Eric's reaction to be the same as Sami's reaction. Also, it took those characters a long time to reach that place of forgiveness and falling into each other's arms. But, the whole point is that forgiveness was there.
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Jun 7 2014, 07:06 PM
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But, that doesn't negate her feelings of hurt and betrayal. He hurt her deeply. She forgave him quite easily, too, if you ask me. He didn't do major groveling or pleading to get back in her good graces. Pretty much, she just let it go. So, IMO, he can't that stance of forgiveness is not an option. And in their relationship, it can't be one-sided where she's open to forgiveness but he isn't. And by now, my harp is probably broken when I compare the shredded papers to other crimes committed by other Salemites. Shredding papers is nothing compared to the rapes, murders, and other things that have been done by others. Those same people are in love, have children, and living happy lives. Guess that's a major reason why I can't understand why Nicole's actions are unforgivable, or why Ericole's relationship should get the death knell.
But I think characters are different, no? We can't expect Eric's reaction to be the same as Sami's reaction. Also, it took those characters a long time to reach that place of forgiveness and falling into each other's arms.
But, the whole point is that forgiveness was there. And by the end of this story, forgiveness may be there, too.
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Jun 7 2014, 07:13 PM
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Thank you Lysie! Eric has known the truth for how long? Nicole didn't forgive Eric for his accusation right away, and this will take time too. I also think Jenn is going to rethink her actions when she sees the ramifications of it.
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Why are people thinking that Gabi isn't going to prison? Did I miss something? No, you didn't. Whoever sent out the spoilers probably didn't want to state that Gabi was indeed the killer, so this way all the spoilers say is that Gabi is leaving the canvas.
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Jun 7 2014, 09:46 PM
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But I think characters are different, no? We can't expect Eric's reaction to be the same as Sami's reaction. Also, it took those characters a long time to reach that place of forgiveness and falling into each other's arms.
But, the whole point is that forgiveness was there.
And by the end of this story, forgiveness may be there, too. I really hope Eric forgives Nicole too but I have a feeling this storyline will drag on for three months like this ridiculous storyline with Brady and John
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Why are people thinking that Gabi isn't going to prison? Did I miss something?
I think I missed that too actually. I'm just responding to people's posts but I'm not sure what websites have spoilers about Gabi not being carted off to prison. I'm confused myself. I usually go on dayscafe for spoilers but I haven't gone on there in awhile
There is a spoiler that says Gabi leaves to start a new life or something like that however, I think the phrasing is just misleading... no where does it say that Gabi does pay for the crimes she confessed too... I think days wants to keep whatever Gabi plea deal is underwrap until that June 12th episode airs I don't think the wanted spoilers telling viewer what it was...
Yeah, starting a new life in prison. I'd love for Kate to be helping Gabi skip town before her sentencing and have everything surrounding Gabi be this big question mark because that could potentially make things interesting but I'm pretty sure she'll get time in prison until they think of a new storyline for her or possibly to rarely be heard from again. :shrug: I hope they don't have a new storyline for her because I cannot stand her. I find myself wanting to yell at the tv screen whenever I watch Gabi quarreling with people and the whole Melanie thing irritated me
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There is a spoiler that says Gabi leaves to start a new life or something like that however, I think the phrasing is just misleading... no where does it say that Gabi does pay for the crimes she confessed too... I think days wants to keep whatever Gabi plea deal is underwrap until that June 12th episode airs I don't think the wanted spoilers telling viewer what it was...
Yeah, starting a new life in prison. I'd love for Kate to be helping Gabi skip town before her sentencing and have everything surrounding Gabi be this big question mark because that could potentially make things interesting but I'm pretty sure she'll get time in prison until they think of a new storyline for her or possibly to rarely be heard from again. :shrug:
I hope they don't have a new storyline for her because I cannot stand her. I find myself wanting to yell at the tv screen whenever I watch Gabi quarreling with people and the whole Melanie thing irritated me We know they don't have a new storyline for her. She left the show.
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Yeah, starting a new life in prison. I'd love for Kate to be helping Gabi skip town before her sentencing and have everything surrounding Gabi be this big question mark because that could potentially make things interesting but I'm pretty sure she'll get time in prison until they think of a new storyline for her or possibly to rarely be heard from again. :shrug:
I hope they don't have a new storyline for her because I cannot stand her. I find myself wanting to yell at the tv screen whenever I watch Gabi quarreling with people and the whole Melanie thing irritated me
We know they don't have a new storyline for her. She left the show. I had originally meant possibly in a few years or something... :)
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Yeah, starting a new life in prison. I'd love for Kate to be helping Gabi skip town before her sentencing and have everything surrounding Gabi be this big question mark because that could potentially make things interesting but I'm pretty sure she'll get time in prison until they think of a new storyline for her or possibly to rarely be heard from again. :shrug:
I hope they don't have a new storyline for her because I cannot stand her. I find myself wanting to yell at the tv screen whenever I watch Gabi quarreling with people and the whole Melanie thing irritated me
We know they don't have a new storyline for her. She left the show. I didn't mean for now. I meant what sillibella wrote like if she were to ever come back in a few years of if someone replaced her in a few years.
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I don't think the Gabster's coming back...
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She'll be mentioned though lol
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I hope they don't have a new storyline for her because I cannot stand her. I find myself wanting to yell at the tv screen whenever I watch Gabi quarreling with people and the whole Melanie thing irritated me
We know they don't have a new storyline for her. She left the show.
I didn't mean for now. I meant what sillibella wrote like if she were to ever come back in a few years of if someone replaced her in a few years. Gabi's served her purpose.......to make Wilson the proud parents of a beautiful baby girl.
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We know they don't have a new storyline for her. She left the show.
I didn't mean for now. I meant what sillibella wrote like if she were to ever come back in a few years of if someone replaced her in a few years.
Gabi's served her purpose.......to make Wilson the proud parents of a beautiful baby girl. I'm sure my SMH-ing at that very true fact will offend some people, but I don't care. IMO, making Gabi the one that killed Nick was more about creating a non-contrived situation where WilSon would end up with Ari than about creating a good exit story for Gabi/Camila.
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http://youtu.be/j5RTt9TBmrQ?t=8m30s
February 6, 2013 (The scene starts at 8:30.)
In the episode when Will gives Sonny his apartment key back, Sonny is telling Will that he still doesn’t trust Gabi. Will acknowledges that there is something about Gabi that Sonny can’t tell him.
SPOILER: Will realizes Sonny has kept a secret from him.
I hope the writers didn’t forget this. I don’t want them rewriting history and have Will be completely surprised that Sonny was keeping a secret about Gabi.
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http://youtu.be/j5RTt9TBmrQ?t=8m30sFebruary 6, 2013 (The scene starts at 8:30.) In the episode when Will gives Sonny his apartment key back, Sonny is telling Will that he still doesn’t trust Gabi. Will acknowledges that there is something about Gabi that Sonny can’t tell him. SPOILER: Will realizes Sonny has kept a secret from him. I hope the writers didn’t forget this. I don’t want them rewriting history and have Will be completely surprised that Sonny was keeping a secret about Gabi. They've changed everything else to make a contrived angst or to fit with their current plot so why not this one.
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I can't speak for all Nicole fans, but I can explain my feelings with the "taking of the ring" and why it feels so dismal. We Nicolers have been trained by former writing regimes to expect the worst when it comes to our girl. When there's an argument and separation from a love interest, it's usually permanent. There has been no working to get the relationship(s) back on track because the breakup is the death toll for the couple. And now with Dan more than likely about to share a past or more with Eve, Jenn needs a shoulder to cry on and a guy to square her around town on his arm. If history is any indication or these sudden talks between Eric and Marlena about Jenn or between Jenn and Marlena about Eric, Nicole is about to lose out once again because Eric will more than likely be that guy. I could be wrong and hope I am, but I see a dismal summer of Nicole being verbally stoned by the good citizens of Salem while Jeneric talk about pictures, truth, and signs.
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