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Spoilers for the week of June 9th; *updated 6/1 *
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Topic Started: May 28 2014, 04:13 PM (34,227 Views)
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sillibella
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May 29 2014, 02:58 AM
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Tuesday Julie confronts Nick's killer.
Oh, goodie. Another appearance from Nick's personal cheerleader. :eyeroll: I look forward to seeing her realize how foolish she was to gush about Gabi and Nick's connection during the hospital scenes, though. I'm not exactly a big fan of Julie these days but I can't fault her for being there for Gabi at the hospital. She was only doing what she thought was fitting, given the situation. C'mon, who would expect Nick's #1 cheerleader to suspect Nick's #2 cheerleader of killing him? Even I give Julie more credit than that. The fans are well aware that Gabi killed Nick but this news should really shock quite a few people in Salem, including Julie as well as the fathers of her child not to mention Rafe and pretty much everybody who knows her. Gabi is far from being a good girl but who knew she had it in her to kill? Her part in the Daysaster wasn't a stepping stone to premeditated murder, imo.
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May 29 2014, 03:34 AM
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Nick and Gabi are already going to pay for their crimes. What doe it matter if the Melanie thing never come out? Melanie and Chad both know what happened. Besides there are others running around who done just as bad or worst and are still free.
I don't think Gabi should be imprisoned for the Andrew thing. Like you said, many have done far worse. But I think that Abigail and JJ need to know the full truth about the events leading up to their father's death. For me, It's more about clearing the air and being responsible. For me, it's not about punishment.
Gabi hired a photographer to stalk her.EJ and Stefano hired a convicted felon to take Rafe's place.EJ and Stefano had more reason to know than Gabi that the person they hired would likely engage in criminal behavior.I think Nicole and Abe deserve to know the role EJ and Stefano played in Fay Walker's death but that is not going to happen.Will needs to know about EJ and Stefano's role in Arnold raping his mother and terrorizing his sister but that will not likely happen.Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman should know that Stefano helped Kristin rape Eric by providing her with Dr.Chyka's name so she could get her rape drug.I think some clear air is needed with Nicole,Abe,Will,Lucas,Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman knowing how Fay died,how Sami was raped,how Allie terrorized,and how Eric was raped.EJ and Stefano should both take responsibility for their behavior in these instances. I know I am beating a dead horse but I feel compelled to raise these issues when I read posts wanting all of Gabi's secrets to come out when others have intentionally done a lot worse than Gabi but are walking around free clear with no calls for them to pay for their crimes or have everyone know of their crimes especially since Gabi is likely going to prison for killing Nick. I don't know if Brandon was told, but didn't Nicole know about EJ's part in Fafe and what happened to her mom? I also don't know if Will knows about it. :/
But I agree it's bullshit that this shit sounds like it is playing out like Gabi is responsible for Jack and Madison's death. Gabi hired a guy she knew to pretend to stalk her. I don't remember if she filed a police report but if she didn't, she didn't do anything illegal until she was blackmailed into not turning him in. Everything after that was on Andrew. Or Jennifer and Cameron, because if they hadn't grabbed Abby and just let the elevator doors slam, Jack could have gotten out before it fell. If Abby hadn't frozen up and freaked in the elevator she could have gotten out faster. If Ian hadn't been a creepy bastard fucking with Madison's head, she wouldn't have been where she was.
I mean- how far back in the domino chain do you go when assigning blame? Can we back up further and blame Melanie for stealing chad from Abby? Or Carly and Daniel for having her in the first place?
Idk, it's just soooo dummmmmb. And I'm not sure what the point is of villainizing Gabi is when it would be just as easy to put her in a more noble light when she left. It's like the writers want to trash every single character's personality.
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May 29 2014, 05:34 AM
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Monday Abigail is taken aback by a deep secret.
More evidence to support the theory that Gabi reveals the truth about her role in Melanie's kidnapping in the preceding episode that airs on Wednesday, June 4th. I agree, and it's about time. I don't give a flying fuck that "others have gotten away with worse." I don't buy that logic that Gabi shouldn't pay one iota because others have not either. Hell, I want EVERYONE's secrets to come out. I'm gonna be hella pissed if Will never confesses to shooting EJ too. The coven should cop to what they did too. I'm looking forward to Abigail confronting Gabi and reading her the riot act for her deplorable behavior. And you know what? Many in Salem might not be in jail for their misdeeds, but I'm pretty sure most of them have been exposed and experienced fall out because it. Gabi has not. She's been treated like she's a poor little victim when the truth is, in some ways she is just as sick and twisted as Nick was.
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May 29 2014, 05:46 AM
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Typical Nicole,YOU lied over and over and over,yet it's Daniel and Jennifer's fault.
Yes, it is Daniel and Jennifer's fault. They ruined the Ericole story with their epic suckage. They're like a black hole for creativity, every character associated with them gets destroyed at their altar. I hope Nicole kills them. KILL THEM NICOLE! #TEAMNICOLE The writers ruined them by painting nicole as desperate,needy liar. No need for scapegoating.
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May 29 2014, 06:55 AM
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Marlena lays into Sami and Kate over what they did to Nick
Um, shouldn't Sami and Kate be in prison?
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May 29 2014, 07:19 AM
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Marlena lays into Sami and Kate over what they did to Nick
Um, shouldn't Sami and Kate be in prison? How? No evidence and no victim. How can they be convicted?
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May 29 2014, 07:46 AM
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Nick and Gabi are already going to pay for their crimes. What doe it matter if the Melanie thing never come out? Melanie and Chad both know what happened. Besides there are others running around who done just as bad or worst and are still free.
I don't think Gabi should be imprisoned for the Andrew thing. Like you said, many have done far worse. But I think that Abigail and JJ need to know the full truth about the events leading up to their father's death. For me, It's more about clearing the air and being responsible. For me, it's not about punishment.
Gabi hired a photographer to stalk her.EJ and Stefano hired a convicted felon to take Rafe's place.EJ and Stefano had more reason to know than Gabi that the person they hired would likely engage in criminal behavior.I think Nicole and Abe deserve to know the role EJ and Stefano played in Fay Walker's death but that is not going to happen.Will needs to know about EJ and Stefano's role in Arnold raping his mother and terrorizing his sister but that will not likely happen.Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman should know that Stefano helped Kristin rape Eric by providing her with Dr.Chyka's name so she could get her rape drug.I think some clear air is needed with Nicole,Abe,Will,Lucas,Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman knowing how Fay died,how Sami was raped,how Allie terrorized,and how Eric was raped.EJ and Stefano should both take responsibility for their behavior in these instances. I know I am beating a dead horse but I feel compelled to raise these issues when I read posts wanting all of Gabi's secrets to come out when others have intentionally done a lot worse than Gabi but are walking around free clear with no calls for them to pay for their crimes or have everyone know of their crimes especially since Gabi is likely going to prison for killing Nick.
I don't know if Brandon was told, but didn't Nicole know about EJ's part in Fafe and what happened to her mom? I also don't know if Will knows about it. :/ But I agree it's bullshit that this shit sounds like it is playing out like Gabi is responsible for Jack and Madison's death. Gabi hired a guy she knew to pretend to stalk her. I don't remember if she filed a police report but if she didn't, she didn't do anything illegal until she was blackmailed into not turning him in. Everything after that was on Andrew. Or Jennifer and Cameron, because if they hadn't grabbed Abby and just let the elevator doors slam, Jack could have gotten out before it fell. If Abby hadn't frozen up and freaked in the elevator she could have gotten out faster. If Ian hadn't been a creepy bastard fucking with Madison's head, she wouldn't have been where she was. I mean- how far back in the domino chain do you go when assigning blame? Can we back up further and blame Melanie for stealing chad from Abby? Or Carly and Daniel for having her in the first place? Idk, it's just soooo dummmmmb. And I'm not sure what the point is of villainizing Gabi is when it would be just as easy to put her in a more noble light when she left. It's like the writers want to trash every single character's personality. This isn't exactly something that the writers (and the writers alone) just randomly cooked up in their twisted heads one day. If you go back through the history of this site, thread-wise, you'll find that various people have been blaming Gabi for being either indirectly or directly responsible (depending on the poster) for Jack and Madison's deaths since the day those deaths occurred, if not before (thanks to the magic of spoilers).
Up to this point, the writers themselves have never really given any indication that they blame Gabi for the DAYSaster, aside from perhaps one vague comment from Gabi to Will about doing something that "could have" killed people (and that could have been a reference to what she had done to Chad and Melanie, not the DAYSaster). Sonny knows Gabi's secret, for instance, and he's never indicated that he blames her for killing his uncle. Even now, we still don't know if the writers are really going to have characters blame her for Jack and Madison's deaths before she is ushered off the canvas -- we just know that it looks like she is going to confess to her part in Melanie's kidnapping. Whether the writers then allow characters to associate that with Jack and Madison's deaths remains to be seen. But that association has always been floating around on this site. I know because I recall pointing out this same thing -- that the writers haven't blamed Gabi for Jack and Madison's deaths on-screen -- during my first few months as a poster here. I didn't have to dig deep to find this post from December 11th, 2012, and if you skim through that thread, you'll see that some people clearly blamed her. (For reference, at that time, people were eagerly anticipating Nick and Gabi's failed church wedding, where they expected that Chad might reveal this secret, but he obviously never did.)
There are people who blame Will for Arianna's death, too, and as far as I'm concerned, that couldn't be further from the truth.
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May 29 2014, 08:27 AM
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Monday Abigail is taken aback by a deep secret.
More evidence to support the theory that Gabi reveals the truth about her role in Melanie's kidnapping in the preceding episode that airs on Wednesday, June 4th.
I agree, and it's about time. I don't give a flying fuck that "others have gotten away with worse." I don't buy that logic that Gabi shouldn't pay one iota because others have not either. Hell, I want EVERYONE's secrets to come out. I'm gonna be hella pissed if Will never confesses to shooting EJ too. The coven should cop to what they did too. I'm looking forward to Abigail confronting Gabi and reading her the riot act for her deplorable behavior. And you know what? Many in Salem might not be in jail for their misdeeds, but I'm pretty sure most of them have been exposed and experienced fall out because it. Gabi has not. She's been treated like she's a poor little victim when the truth is, in some ways she is just as sick and twisted as Nick was. THANK YOU! :hail: :rockon: :cheer: :applause: :cheers:
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May 29 2014, 10:12 AM
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Marlena lays into Sami and Kate over what they did to Nick
Um, shouldn't Sami and Kate be in prison?
How? No evidence and no victim. How can they be convicted? What is Marlena laying into them about then?
Edited by Rosebud, May 29 2014, 10:12 AM.
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May 29 2014, 10:13 AM
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Kate thinks Stefano's better in bed than he was. The show could do a product placement to show why Kate might think Stefano is better now. ***wink***
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May 29 2014, 10:28 AM
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So Gabi killed Nick? No shocker, especially after Abigal told her Nick was holding something over her, I knew in that instant she would be the killer, because not only did Nick try to rape her , then he played her for a fool when everyone was trying to warn her about him.
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May 29 2014, 11:02 AM
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Nick and Gabi are already going to pay for their crimes. What doe it matter if the Melanie thing never come out? Melanie and Chad both know what happened. Besides there are others running around who done just as bad or worst and are still free.
I don't think Gabi should be imprisoned for the Andrew thing. Like you said, many have done far worse. But I think that Abigail and JJ need to know the full truth about the events leading up to their father's death. For me, It's more about clearing the air and being responsible. For me, it's not about punishment.
Gabi hired a photographer to stalk her.EJ and Stefano hired a convicted felon to take Rafe's place.EJ and Stefano had more reason to know than Gabi that the person they hired would likely engage in criminal behavior.I think Nicole and Abe deserve to know the role EJ and Stefano played in Fay Walker's death but that is not going to happen.Will needs to know about EJ and Stefano's role in Arnold raping his mother and terrorizing his sister but that will not likely happen.Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman should know that Stefano helped Kristin rape Eric by providing her with Dr.Chyka's name so she could get her rape drug.I think some clear air is needed with Nicole,Abe,Will,Lucas,Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman knowing how Fay died,how Sami was raped,how Allie terrorized,and how Eric was raped.EJ and Stefano should both take responsibility for their behavior in these instances. I know I am beating a dead horse but I feel compelled to raise these issues when I read posts wanting all of Gabi's secrets to come out when others have intentionally done a lot worse than Gabi but are walking around free clear with no calls for them to pay for their crimes or have everyone know of their crimes especially since Gabi is likely going to prison for killing Nick. The problem with beating the dead horse on the Rafe 2 stuff is that the show already did what you're saying should be done. Everybody already knows that EJ and Stefano played a role in Fay's death. I know we've all done our best to forget ejaylor, but EJ and Taylor had a blow up about him being responsible for her mom's death. EJ and Stefano were accused of rape, by the police, aka Sami's relatives, because Rafe 2 slept with Sami. People already called for those things to come out, when the story aired, and they did. Gabi is not the first, or only, character to get blamed for something someone she conspired with did. She is one of the only characters who gets treated like a victim and a great person who'd never hurt anyone, when that's not actually true.
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May 29 2014, 11:10 AM
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I do know that in some cases when you have committed a crime and that crime can be directly related to the death of a person - such as when a person makes a false call to summon the fire department as the fire personnel respond one is killed in a wreck - legally the person who made the false call can be held liable. However, I don't think the writers think Gabi is responsible for the Daysaster in this way. I think they think she was responsible for not coming forward to help Melanie when she was being held prisoner (and for all Gabi knew could be being sexually tortured, even though that wasn't happening). She didn't do the right thing there.
And by responsible, I mean some sort of comeuppance happens onscreen - legally or emotionally - because if a character is going to stay on the canvas, they often can't be sent to jail long term. It's just not practical.
While Will is constantly raked over the coals for letting Lucas take the rap for him and for shooting EJ, and Nicole's past is constantly brought up and she's shown plenty of guilt onscreen, the writers have rarely allowed Gabi to feel guilty for what she did and that she didn't really pay for it. I like that it hasn't been forgotten as something her character regrets. One of the ways you differentiate between good characters and bad characters (Stefano, EJ, Sami) on a canvas where everyone does wrong is that they show remorse for what they did. Gabi has a little, but it hasn't been "revealed" and has been hanging over her head.
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May 29 2014, 11:12 AM
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Kate thinks Stefano's better in bed than he was.
The show could do a product placement to show why Kate might think Stefano is better now. ***wink*** I took concerned's comment (which was in reference to this spoiler: "EJ discovers some very upsetting news about Kate and Stefano") to mean that the "very upsetting news" E.J. was going to learn was that Kate believed that Stefano was better in bed than E.J., whom she has also slept with.
I'd actually love to see that conversation, but I don't like E.J., so there's that.
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May 29 2014, 11:24 AM
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Team Nicole all the way but I truly hate that she is back to where she was for the past couple years of sweeps..... alone, friendless and once again without a man. How much torture is this chick supposed to take? And I agree with the PP, anyone other than AZ and I would be done with this shit show.
This bitch deserves some happiness!! :flipoff:
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May 29 2014, 01:02 PM
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Kate thinks Stefano's better in bed than he was.
The show could do a product placement to show why Kate might think Stefano is better now. ***wink***
I took concerned's comment (which was in reference to this spoiler: "EJ discovers some very upsetting news about Kate and Stefano") to mean that the "very upsetting news" E.J. was going to learn was that Kate believed that Stefano was better in bed than E.J., whom she has also slept with. I'd actually love to see that conversation, but I don't like E.J., so there's that. Hmmm, there's a fan fic in that conversation idea. I don't have time for it myself, but surely someone with a creatively evil mind can come up with that. :cheer: :popcorn: :lol:
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May 29 2014, 02:14 PM
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Tuesday Eric asks Nicole to take off her ring
Just now? Hasn't he known about her betrayal for several episodes by now?
And what is Nicole thinking not taking that ring off the minute he finds out the truth. Girlfriend, you're not getting married.
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May 29 2014, 02:17 PM
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Nick and Gabi are already going to pay for their crimes. What doe it matter if the Melanie thing never come out? Melanie and Chad both know what happened. Besides there are others running around who done just as bad or worst and are still free.
I don't think Gabi should be imprisoned for the Andrew thing. Like you said, many have done far worse. But I think that Abigail and JJ need to know the full truth about the events leading up to their father's death. For me, It's more about clearing the air and being responsible. For me, it's not about punishment.
Gabi hired a photographer to stalk her.EJ and Stefano hired a convicted felon to take Rafe's place.EJ and Stefano had more reason to know than Gabi that the person they hired would likely engage in criminal behavior.I think Nicole and Abe deserve to know the role EJ and Stefano played in Fay Walker's death but that is not going to happen.Will needs to know about EJ and Stefano's role in Arnold raping his mother and terrorizing his sister but that will not likely happen.Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman should know that Stefano helped Kristin rape Eric by providing her with Dr.Chyka's name so she could get her rape drug.I think some clear air is needed with Nicole,Abe,Will,Lucas,Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman knowing how Fay died,how Sami was raped,how Allie terrorized,and how Eric was raped.EJ and Stefano should both take responsibility for their behavior in these instances. I know I am beating a dead horse but I feel compelled to raise these issues when I read posts wanting all of Gabi's secrets to come out when others have intentionally done a lot worse than Gabi but are walking around free clear with no calls for them to pay for their crimes or have everyone know of their crimes especially since Gabi is likely going to prison for killing Nick.
I don't know if Brandon was told, but didn't Nicole know about EJ's part in Fafe and what happened to her mom? I also don't know if Will knows about it. :/ But I agree it's bullshit that this shit sounds like it is playing out like Gabi is responsible for Jack and Madison's death. Gabi hired a guy she knew to pretend to stalk her. I don't remember if she filed a police report but if she didn't, she didn't do anything illegal until she was blackmailed into not turning him in. Everything after that was on Andrew. Or Jennifer and Cameron, because if they hadn't grabbed Abby and just let the elevator doors slam, Jack could have gotten out before it fell. If Abby hadn't frozen up and freaked in the elevator she could have gotten out faster. If Ian hadn't been a creepy bastard fucking with Madison's head, she wouldn't have been where she was. I mean- how far back in the domino chain do you go when assigning blame? Can we back up further and blame Melanie for stealing chad from Abby? Or Carly and Daniel for having her in the first place? Idk, it's just soooo dummmmmb. And I'm not sure what the point is of villainizing Gabi is when it would be just as easy to put her in a more noble light when she left. It's like the writers want to trash every single character's personality. But why on earth *should* se portrayed in a more "noble" light? Exactly what has she done to deserve to be thought of as noble? Considering the kind of treatment other people in Salem have gotten when their dirty laundry has been aired in public, I don't really see why Gabi should get some sort of a special treatment.
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- May 29 2014, 11:24 AM
Team Nicole all the way but I truly hate that she is back to where she was for the past couple years of sweeps..... alone, friendless and once again without a man. How much torture is this chick supposed to take? And I agree with the PP, anyone other than AZ and I would be done with this shit show. This bitch deserves some happiness!! :flipoff: I WANT A BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's about time the Nicole fans are appeased by a bun in the oven that brings forth a child.
I mean we are already headed to a path of Bradys and Marlena, being judge, jury and executenor and general rock throwers to my gal. She needs to be a mom. No character on this show deserves to be a mom more than Nicole.
And I don't mind her going strong in drama, mad, mean, suicidal, turning back to porn, alcohol (well maybe not that ;) maybe baby--); and going strong with DRAMA.. nobody does drama like AZ. Yelling, screaming, sobbing, crying, pain, anger, blubberin-- she does it all well, AS has nothing on her. And I am done, until, AZ gets a better s/l or... the twisted bobsy twins are gone.
I like that the spoiler says Eric asks Nicole to take off HER ring...not his ring... I know it's just symantics.
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May 29 2014, 02:42 PM
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lol I cannot wait for Julie to go off on Gabi. That should be interesting btwn I wish there was more than one killer. I cannot believe Gabi is the only killer. It's pretty predictable
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