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Topic Started: May 28 2014, 04:13 PM (34,226 Views)
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May 29 2014, 02:58 AM
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May 29 2014, 02:01 AM
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Julie confronts Nick's killer.


Oh, goodie. Another appearance from Nick's personal cheerleader. :eyeroll:

I look forward to seeing her realize how foolish she was to gush about Gabi and Nick's connection during the hospital scenes, though.
I'm not exactly a big fan of Julie these days but I can't fault her for being there for Gabi at the hospital. She was only doing what she thought was fitting, given the situation. C'mon, who would expect Nick's #1 cheerleader to suspect Nick's #2 cheerleader of killing him? Even I give Julie more credit than that. The fans are well aware that Gabi killed Nick but this news should really shock quite a few people in Salem, including Julie as well as the fathers of her child not to mention Rafe and pretty much everybody who knows her. Gabi is far from being a good girl but who knew she had it in her to kill? Her part in the Daysaster wasn't a stepping stone to premeditated murder, imo.
I get the sense this will shock, Julie, Will, Sonny, Rafe, Victor, Hope & Maggie and maybe Lucas


we all know it won't shock EJ, Sami or Kate

The reason I think it will shock Will & Sonny it not that thought that Gabi could do it but the fact especially on Sonny's part that Gabi could allow WILL to go down for it when Gabi saw the state Sonny was in over Will's confession.

Julie & Hope believed that Gabi love not hated Nick this is why I think they be surprised.

Victor & Maggie have more respect for Will & Sonny that Julie did so I think Will or Sonny being the killer is the hard one for them but I think they again be shocked that Gabi could allow someone else someone close to her, who loves his husband and daughter to go down for what she did.

Rafe will be shocked I believe because he thinking his sister learned from the Andrew mess and she broke the law big time.

Lucas I believe will be shocked for a various of reasons...


Marlena I think she suspects that Will is protect someone... I think that Marlena has a better read on the real killer however wonder if she read through Will in terms of who he believes (Will does did it (Lucas) and or (Sonny) being the real culprit.

Julie confronting Nick's Killer Gabi I believe that won't give her the kind of closer that she is looking for at all. Meanwhile I wonder who Marlena learns it from that Gabi's first attempt on Nick's life come with help from Kate & Sami.
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May 29 2014, 03:21 PM
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May 29 2014, 02:58 AM
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May 29 2014, 02:01 AM
Tuesday
Julie confronts Nick's killer.


Oh, goodie. Another appearance from Nick's personal cheerleader. :eyeroll:

I look forward to seeing her realize how foolish she was to gush about Gabi and Nick's connection during the hospital scenes, though.
I'm not exactly a big fan of Julie these days but I can't fault her for being there for Gabi at the hospital. She was only doing what she thought was fitting, given the situation. C'mon, who would expect Nick's #1 cheerleader to suspect Nick's #2 cheerleader of killing him? Even I give Julie more credit than that. The fans are well aware that Gabi killed Nick but this news should really shock quite a few people in Salem, including Julie as well as the fathers of her child not to mention Rafe and pretty much everybody who knows her. Gabi is far from being a good girl but who knew she had it in her to kill? Her part in the Daysaster wasn't a stepping stone to premeditated murder, imo.
I get the sense this will shock, Julie, Will, Sonny, Rafe, Victor, Hope & Maggie and maybe Lucas


we all know it won't shock EJ, Sami or Kate

The reason I think it will shock Will & Sonny it not that thought that Gabi could do it but the fact especially on Sonny's part that Gabi could allow WILL to go down for it when Gabi saw the state Sonny was in over Will's confession.

Julie & Hope believed that Gabi love not hated Nick this is why I think they be surprised.

Victor & Maggie have more respect for Will & Sonny that Julie did so I think Will or Sonny being the killer is the hard one for them but I think they again be shocked that Gabi could allow someone else someone close to her, who loves his husband and daughter to go down for what she did.

Rafe will be shocked I believe because he thinking his sister learned from the Andrew mess and she broke the law big time.

Lucas I believe will be shocked for a various of reasons...


Marlena I think she suspects that Will is protect someone... I think that Marlena has a better read on the real killer however wonder if she read through Will in terms of who he believes (Will does did it (Lucas) and or (Sonny) being the real culprit.

Julie confronting Nick's Killer Gabi I believe that won't give her the kind of closer that she is looking for at all. Meanwhile I wonder who Marlena learns it from that Gabi's first attempt on Nick's life come with help from Kate & Sami.
I'm not exactly one of Gabi's biggest fans or anything (she often treated Will and Sonny quite horribly), but to be fair, we can't really be sure (yet, anyway) that she was willing to let Will take the blame for something she did. She could have been headed to the police station to confess at the end of Thursday's episode. In fact, I'm inclined to believe that she was, considering the speech she gave Arianna, where she stressed that little girls needed their daddies (as if she were reasoning that it would be better for Arianna to grow up without a mother than without a father). I don't think Gabi had any intention of confessing prior to her conversation with Sonny, but once she learned that Will was claiming responsibility for something she knew he hadn't actually done, things changed -- or, at least, that's how it seemed during Thursday's episode. Friday's episode will clarify things one way or another, I guess.
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I'm not exactly a big fan of Julie these days but I can't fault her for being there for Gabi at the hospital. She was only doing what she thought was fitting, given the situation. C'mon, who would expect Nick's #1 cheerleader to suspect Nick's #2 cheerleader of killing him? Even I give Julie more credit than that. The fans are well aware that Gabi killed Nick but this news should really shock quite a few people in Salem, including Julie as well as the fathers of her child not to mention Rafe and pretty much everybody who knows her. Gabi is far from being a good girl but who knew she had it in her to kill? Her part in the Daysaster wasn't a stepping stone to premeditated murder, imo.
I get the sense this will shock, Julie, Will, Sonny, Rafe, Victor, Hope & Maggie and maybe Lucas


we all know it won't shock EJ, Sami or Kate

The reason I think it will shock Will & Sonny it not that thought that Gabi could do it but the fact especially on Sonny's part that Gabi could allow WILL to go down for it when Gabi saw the state Sonny was in over Will's confession.

Julie & Hope believed that Gabi love not hated Nick this is why I think they be surprised.

Victor & Maggie have more respect for Will & Sonny that Julie did so I think Will or Sonny being the killer is the hard one for them but I think they again be shocked that Gabi could allow someone else someone close to her, who loves his husband and daughter to go down for what she did.

Rafe will be shocked I believe because he thinking his sister learned from the Andrew mess and she broke the law big time.

Lucas I believe will be shocked for a various of reasons...


Marlena I think she suspects that Will is protect someone... I think that Marlena has a better read on the real killer however wonder if she read through Will in terms of who he believes (Will does did it (Lucas) and or (Sonny) being the real culprit.

Julie confronting Nick's Killer Gabi I believe that won't give her the kind of closer that she is looking for at all. Meanwhile I wonder who Marlena learns it from that Gabi's first attempt on Nick's life come with help from Kate & Sami.
I'm not exactly one of Gabi's biggest fans or anything (she often treated Will and Sonny quite horribly), but to be fair, we can't really be sure (yet, anyway) that she was willing to let Will take the blame for something she did. She could have been headed to the police station to confess at the end of Thursday's episode. In fact, I'm inclined to believe that she was, considering the speech she gave Arianna, where she stressed that little girls needed their daddies (as if she were reasoning that it would be better for Arianna to grow up without a mother than without a father). I don't think Gabi had any intention of confessing prior to her conversation with Sonny, but once she learned that Will was claiming responsibility for something she knew he hadn't actually done, things changed -- or, at least, that's how it seemed during Thursday's episode. Friday's episode will clarify things one way or another, I guess.
you might be right I missed the scenes with Gabi and Ari...til you no one would tell me what they were

with Julie she does have a right to confront Gabi but what I don't get is this it won't give her the closure she wants unless she realizes that Nick wasn't just an innocent victim. A victim of murder yes, innocent of harming others no... until or unless Julie realizes who and what Nick was she won't get the closure she wants by just confronting Gabi for her actions.
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I get the sense this will shock, Julie, Will, Sonny, Rafe, Victor, Hope & Maggie and maybe Lucas


we all know it won't shock EJ, Sami or Kate

The reason I think it will shock Will & Sonny it not that thought that Gabi could do it but the fact especially on Sonny's part that Gabi could allow WILL to go down for it when Gabi saw the state Sonny was in over Will's confession.

Julie & Hope believed that Gabi love not hated Nick this is why I think they be surprised.

Victor & Maggie have more respect for Will & Sonny that Julie did so I think Will or Sonny being the killer is the hard one for them but I think they again be shocked that Gabi could allow someone else someone close to her, who loves his husband and daughter to go down for what she did.

Rafe will be shocked I believe because he thinking his sister learned from the Andrew mess and she broke the law big time.

Lucas I believe will be shocked for a various of reasons...


Marlena I think she suspects that Will is protect someone... I think that Marlena has a better read on the real killer however wonder if she read through Will in terms of who he believes (Will does did it (Lucas) and or (Sonny) being the real culprit.

Julie confronting Nick's Killer Gabi I believe that won't give her the kind of closer that she is looking for at all. Meanwhile I wonder who Marlena learns it from that Gabi's first attempt on Nick's life come with help from Kate & Sami.
I'm not exactly one of Gabi's biggest fans or anything (she often treated Will and Sonny quite horribly), but to be fair, we can't really be sure (yet, anyway) that she was willing to let Will take the blame for something she did. She could have been headed to the police station to confess at the end of Thursday's episode. In fact, I'm inclined to believe that she was, considering the speech she gave Arianna, where she stressed that little girls needed their daddies (as if she were reasoning that it would be better for Arianna to grow up without a mother than without a father). I don't think Gabi had any intention of confessing prior to her conversation with Sonny, but once she learned that Will was claiming responsibility for something she knew he hadn't actually done, things changed -- or, at least, that's how it seemed during Thursday's episode. Friday's episode will clarify things one way or another, I guess.
you might be right I missed the scenes with Gabi and Ari...til you no one would tell me what they were
Gabi held Arianna and fought back tears as she told the child, "You know, Mommy loves you so much. And Daddy loves you, too. He'd do anything for you. The last thing I ever wanted, honey, was for you to grow up without either one of us. And Nick never understood that -- he never did. Little girls -- they need their daddies, and now.... Daddy and Sonny and Mommy love you so, so much, okay? We love you so much." Then, in the following scene, she grabbed her purse (she was also carrying another bag, but it wasn't the diaper bag she had been carrying on the night of Nick's murder) and asked if Arianna was ready to go -- just as someone knocked on the door. Gabi opened the door and found Hope standing outside.
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I'm not exactly one of Gabi's biggest fans or anything (she often treated Will and Sonny quite horribly), but to be fair, we can't really be sure (yet, anyway) that she was willing to let Will take the blame for something she did. She could have been headed to the police station to confess at the end of Thursday's episode. In fact, I'm inclined to believe that she was, considering the speech she gave Arianna, where she stressed that little girls needed their daddies (as if she were reasoning that it would be better for Arianna to grow up without a mother than without a father). I don't think Gabi had any intention of confessing prior to her conversation with Sonny, but once she learned that Will was claiming responsibility for something she knew he hadn't actually done, things changed -- or, at least, that's how it seemed during Thursday's episode. Friday's episode will clarify things one way or another, I guess.
you might be right I missed the scenes with Gabi and Ari...til you no one would tell me what they were
Gabi held Arianna and fought back tears as she told the child, "You know, Mommy loves you so much. And Daddy loves you, too. He'd do anything for you. The last thing I ever wanted, honey, was for you to grow up without either one of us. And Nick never understood that -- he never did. Little girls -- they need their daddies, and now.... Daddy and Sonny and Mommy love you so, so much, okay? We love you so much." Then, in the following scene, she grabbed her purse (she was also carrying another bag, but it wasn't the diaper bag she had been carrying on the night of Nick's murder) and asked if Arianna was ready to go -- just as someone knocked on the door. Gabi opened the door and found Hope standing outside.
thank you for recapping that I will have to go back and watch Gabi's scenes when they get posted
I'd like it if in fact Gabi was set to do right by those she cared for Will, Arianna & Sonny it would finally show her growth from the Andrew situation even though she did commit another crime. I wonder however what send Hope Gabi direction out of know where it clear Hope's more convinced on Will's innocence then guilt... despite Will's confession.
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with Julie she does have a right to confront Gabi but what I don't get is this it won't give her the closure she wants unless she realizes that Nick wasn't just an innocent victim. A victim of murder yes, innocent of harming others no... until or unless Julie realizes who and what Nick was she won't get the closure she wants by just confronting Gabi for her actions.

I agree with this. Nick didn't deserve to be murdered. But Julie does need to know the truth about Nick's dark side.
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with Julie she does have a right to confront Gabi but what I don't get is this it won't give her the closure she wants unless she realizes that Nick wasn't just an innocent victim. A victim of murder yes, innocent of harming others no... until or unless Julie realizes who and what Nick was she won't get the closure she wants by just confronting Gabi for her actions.

I agree with this. Nick didn't deserve to be murdered. But Julie does need to know the truth about Nick's dark side.
Well it pretty much the truth, closure in a death like Nick's doesn't come merely from confronting Nick's killer... she need to realize Nick own actions and how they lead to Gabi feeling she had no other choice. Julie wants Nick to be the innocent Victim problem is Nick's a murder victim but no innocent victim. Gabi should have turned Nick in or found another answer I agree. I also agree that Nick dark side plays into everything it why I don't get why Julie thinking confronting Gabi will give her closure... true closure comes from confronting the full truth something I not sure if Julie will ever do.
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with Julie she does have a right to confront Gabi but what I don't get is this it won't give her the closure she wants unless she realizes that Nick wasn't just an innocent victim. A victim of murder yes, innocent of harming others no... until or unless Julie realizes who and what Nick was she won't get the closure she wants by just confronting Gabi for her actions.

I agree with this. Nick didn't deserve to be murdered. But Julie does need to know the truth about Nick's dark side.
The only part of his dark side that she knew about is that everyone hated him but she has no clue why :blulaugh:
Edited by DaysAddiction, May 29 2014, 04:45 PM.
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Typical Nicole,YOU lied over and over and over,yet it's Daniel and Jennifer's fault.
Yes, it is Daniel and Jennifer's fault. They ruined the Ericole story with their epic suckage. They're like a black hole for creativity, every character associated with them gets destroyed at their altar.

I hope Nicole kills them.

KILL THEM NICOLE! #TEAMNICOLE
The writers ruined them by painting nicole as desperate,needy liar. No need for scapegoating.
Nicole's always been a desperate needy liar - it's just it used to be a lot more fun to watch.
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Nick and Gabi are already going to pay for their crimes. What doe it matter if the Melanie thing never come out? Melanie and Chad both know what happened. Besides there are others running around who done just as bad or worst and are still free.
I don't think Gabi should be imprisoned for the Andrew thing. Like you said, many have done far worse.
But I think that Abigail and JJ need to know the full truth about the events leading up to their father's death.
For me, It's more about clearing the air and being responsible.
For me, it's not about punishment.
Gabi hired a photographer to stalk her.EJ and Stefano hired a convicted felon to take Rafe's place.EJ and Stefano had more reason to know than Gabi that the person they hired would likely engage in criminal behavior.I think Nicole and Abe deserve to know the role EJ and Stefano played in Fay Walker's death but that is not going to happen.Will needs to know about EJ and Stefano's role in Arnold raping his mother and terrorizing his sister but that will not likely happen.Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman should know that Stefano helped Kristin rape Eric by providing her with Dr.Chyka's name so she could get her rape drug.I think some clear air is needed with Nicole,Abe,Will,Lucas,Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman knowing how Fay died,how Sami was raped,how Allie terrorized,and how Eric was raped.EJ and Stefano should both take responsibility for their behavior in these instances.

I know I am beating a dead horse but I feel compelled to raise these issues when I read posts wanting all of Gabi's secrets to come out when others have intentionally done a lot worse than Gabi but are walking around free clear with no calls for them to pay for their crimes or have everyone know of their crimes especially since Gabi is likely going to prison for killing Nick.
The problem with beating the dead horse on the Rafe 2 stuff is that the show already did what you're saying should be done. Everybody already knows that EJ and Stefano played a role in Fay's death. I know we've all done our best to forget ejaylor, but EJ and Taylor had a blow up about him being responsible for her mom's death. EJ and Stefano were accused of rape, by the police, aka Sami's relatives, because Rafe 2 slept with Sami. People already called for those things to come out, when the story aired, and they did. Gabi is not the first, or only, character to get blamed for something someone she conspired with did. She is one of the only characters who gets treated like a victim and a great person who'd never hurt anyone, when that's not actually true.

I think the extent to which EJ and Stefano were involved with Fake Rafe was a bit more that Gabi's involvement.

Foreseeable consequences.

I give them a pass on Faye's murder that is a consequence that they couldn't have foreseen but they were actively encouraging the Rape
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Gabi hired a photographer to stalk her.EJ and Stefano hired a convicted felon to take Rafe's place.EJ and Stefano had more reason to know than Gabi that the person they hired would likely engage in criminal behavior.I think Nicole and Abe deserve to know the role EJ and Stefano played in Fay Walker's death but that is not going to happen.Will needs to know about EJ and Stefano's role in Arnold raping his mother and terrorizing his sister but that will not likely happen.Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman should know that Stefano helped Kristin rape Eric by providing her with Dr.Chyka's name so she could get her rape drug.I think some clear air is needed with Nicole,Abe,Will,Lucas,Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman knowing how Fay died,how Sami was raped,how Allie terrorized,and how Eric was raped.EJ and Stefano should both take responsibility for their behavior in these instances.

I know I am beating a dead horse but I feel compelled to raise these issues when I read posts wanting all of Gabi's secrets to come out when others have intentionally done a lot worse than Gabi but are walking around free clear with no calls for them to pay for their crimes or have everyone know of their crimes especially since Gabi is likely going to prison for killing Nick.
The problem with beating the dead horse on the Rafe 2 stuff is that the show already did what you're saying should be done. Everybody already knows that EJ and Stefano played a role in Fay's death. I know we've all done our best to forget ejaylor, but EJ and Taylor had a blow up about him being responsible for her mom's death. EJ and Stefano were accused of rape, by the police, aka Sami's relatives, because Rafe 2 slept with Sami. People already called for those things to come out, when the story aired, and they did. Gabi is not the first, or only, character to get blamed for something someone she conspired with did. She is one of the only characters who gets treated like a victim and a great person who'd never hurt anyone, when that's not actually true.

I think the extent to which EJ and Stefano were involved with Fake Rafe was a bit more that Gabi's involvement.

Foreseeable consequences.

I give them a pass on Faye's murder that is a consequence that they couldn't have foreseen but they were actively encouraging the Rape
That doesn't really have anything to do with what I was talking about, but I think when Gabi told Andrew to keep holding Melanie, she should have been able to foresee that he would keep holding Melanie.
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Nick and Gabi are already going to pay for their crimes. What doe it matter if the Melanie thing never come out? Melanie and Chad both know what happened. Besides there are others running around who done just as bad or worst and are still free.
I don't think Gabi should be imprisoned for the Andrew thing. Like you said, many have done far worse.
But I think that Abigail and JJ need to know the full truth about the events leading up to their father's death.
For me, It's more about clearing the air and being responsible.
For me, it's not about punishment.
Gabi hired a photographer to stalk her.EJ and Stefano hired a convicted felon to take Rafe's place.EJ and Stefano had more reason to know than Gabi that the person they hired would likely engage in criminal behavior.I think Nicole and Abe deserve to know the role EJ and Stefano played in Fay Walker's death but that is not going to happen.Will needs to know about EJ and Stefano's role in Arnold raping his mother and terrorizing his sister but that will not likely happen.Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman should know that Stefano helped Kristin rape Eric by providing her with Dr.Chyka's name so she could get her rape drug.I think some clear air is needed with Nicole,Abe,Will,Lucas,Eric,Sami,Marlena,and Roman knowing how Fay died,how Sami was raped,how Allie terrorized,and how Eric was raped.EJ and Stefano should both take responsibility for their behavior in these instances.

I know I am beating a dead horse but I feel compelled to raise these issues when I read posts wanting all of Gabi's secrets to come out when others have intentionally done a lot worse than Gabi but are walking around free clear with no calls for them to pay for their crimes or have everyone know of their crimes especially since Gabi is likely going to prison for killing Nick.
:hail: You know, I always get all caught up in the Arnold Rape by Proxy thing of Stephano/EJ that I totally forget that he terrorized Allie and killed Faye.
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Abigail is taken aback by a deep secret.


More evidence to support the theory that Gabi reveals the truth about her role in Melanie's kidnapping in the preceding episode that airs on Wednesday, June 4th.
I agree, and it's about time. I don't give a flying fuck that "others have gotten away with worse." I don't buy that logic that Gabi shouldn't pay one iota because others have not either. Hell, I want EVERYONE's secrets to come out. I'm gonna be hella pissed if Will never confesses to shooting EJ too. The coven should cop to what they did too. I'm looking forward to Abigail confronting Gabi and reading her the riot act for her deplorable behavior. And you know what? Many in Salem might not be in jail for their misdeeds, but I'm pretty sure most of them have been exposed and experienced fall out because it. Gabi has not. She's been treated like she's a poor little victim when the truth is, in some ways she is just as sick and twisted as Nick was.
As much as I love Abby and I totally DO - she might not wanna be casting any stones given that whole Austin debacle and the not yet disclosed romp she had with EJ. If she rags on Gabi, I'm thinking that's come back to bite her in the butt BIG TIME!
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Marlena lays into Sami and Kate over what they did to Nick

Um, shouldn't Sami and Kate be in prison?
Heck, they practically all should be in prison. Hmmm? Orange is the New Black and Dr. Dayglo can be the warden?? :blulaugh:
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Marlena lays into Sami and Kate over what they did to Nick

Um, shouldn't Sami and Kate be in prison?
Heck, they practically all should be in prison. Hmmm? Orange is the New Black and Dr. Dayglo can be the warden?? :blulaugh:
Should Kate , Sami & Gabi all be I prison yes there is no question of that however all we know is the fact that Gabi confesses to both Nick's murder and the prior attempt that the PCPD didn't even know about to Nick's life. We don't know what Gabi says in her confession. It is quiet possible that Gabi implicates Sami & Kate in a minor way but the Marlena puts the actual truth today about what occurred from that and their by confronts Sami & Kate.
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with Julie she does have a right to confront Gabi but what I don't get is this it won't give her the closure she wants unless she realizes that Nick wasn't just an innocent victim. A victim of murder yes, innocent of harming others no... until or unless Julie realizes who and what Nick was she won't get the closure she wants by just confronting Gabi for her actions.

I agree with this. Nick didn't deserve to be murdered. But Julie does need to know the truth about Nick's dark side.
:hail: I've thought she's needed to be put in check for the last few episodes she's appeared in. And funny, my guess is she'll yell or slap Gabi and yet no one will call her hand that SHE propped Nick as much as Maxine has cheerleaded for Dannifer!
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Marlena lays into Sami and Kate over what they did to Nick

Um, shouldn't Sami and Kate be in prison?
Heck, they practically all should be in prison. Hmmm? Orange is the New Black and Dr. Dayglo can be the warden?? :blulaugh:
Should Kate , Sami & Gabi all be I prison yes there is no question of that however all we know is the fact that Gabi confesses to both Nick's murder and the prior attempt that the PCPD didn't even know about to Nick's life. We don't know what Gabi says in her confession. It is quiet possible that Gabi implicates Sami & Kate in a minor way but the Marlena puts the actual truth today about what occurred from that and their by confronts Sami & Kate.
Uh, by "all" I meant all of the characters have at one time or another broken the law. I was being silly. ;)
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Heck, they practically all should be in prison. Hmmm? Orange is the New Black and Dr. Dayglo can be the warden?? :blulaugh:
Should Kate , Sami & Gabi all be I prison yes there is no question of that however all we know is the fact that Gabi confesses to both Nick's murder and the prior attempt that the PCPD didn't even know about to Nick's life. We don't know what Gabi says in her confession. It is quiet possible that Gabi implicates Sami & Kate in a minor way but the Marlena puts the actual truth today about what occurred from that and their by confronts Sami & Kate.
Uh, by "all" I meant all of the characters have at one time or another broken the law. I was being silly. ;)
now that I doubt WILL ever happy, clearly Gabi will go to jail
EJ & Sami exit later this year so it possible one or both of them could go to jail who knows.... but that would be it.
Look at Stefano has the man even ever gone on trail??? I'm not sure anyone has committed more crimes them him but maybe Victor... is up there... then maybe EJ & Sami tied for next.
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The problem with beating the dead horse on the Rafe 2 stuff is that the show already did what you're saying should be done. Everybody already knows that EJ and Stefano played a role in Fay's death. I know we've all done our best to forget ejaylor, but EJ and Taylor had a blow up about him being responsible for her mom's death. EJ and Stefano were accused of rape, by the police, aka Sami's relatives, because Rafe 2 slept with Sami. People already called for those things to come out, when the story aired, and they did. Gabi is not the first, or only, character to get blamed for something someone she conspired with did. She is one of the only characters who gets treated like a victim and a great person who'd never hurt anyone, when that's not actually true.

I think the extent to which EJ and Stefano were involved with Fake Rafe was a bit more that Gabi's involvement.

Foreseeable consequences.

I give them a pass on Faye's murder that is a consequence that they couldn't have foreseen but they were actively encouraging the Rape
That doesn't really have anything to do with what I was talking about, but I think when Gabi told Andrew to keep holding Melanie, she should have been able to foresee that he would keep holding Melanie.
I think Gabi is responsible for what happened to Melanie - just not Jack and Madison.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepalready did what you're saying should be done. Everybody already knows that EJ and Stefano played a role in Fay's death. I know we've all done our best to forget ejaylor, but EJ and Taylor had a blow up about him being responsible for her mom's death. EJ and Stefano were accused of rape, by the police, aka Sami's relatives, because Rafe 2 slept with Sami. People already called for those things to come out, when the story aired, and they did. Gabi is not the first, or only, character to get blamed for something someone she conspired with did. She is one of the only characters who gets treated like a victim and a great person who'd never hurt anyone, when that's not actually true.

I think the extent to which EJ and Stefano were involved with Fake Rafe was a bit more that Gabi's involvement.

Foreseeable consequences.

I give them a pass on Faye's murder that is a consequence that they couldn't have foreseen but they were actively encouraging the Rape
That doesn't really have anything to do with what I was talking about, but I think when Gabi told Andrew to keep holding Melanie, she should have been able to foresee that he would keep holding Melanie.
I think Gabi is responsible for what happened to Melanie - just not Jack and Madison.
How is she not responsible for that? She caused the explosion
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