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May 29 2014, 10:24 PM
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Daniel shows up at Nicole's door huffy and puffy and stinky and going to demand she listen to his highness. He's. So. Pathetically. Self righteous. And. Manipulative.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I like Daniel and Nicole but what Nicole is doing is morally wrong lying to someone that she claims she loves. Daniel is doing the right thing by telling Eric and he is angry with her for a reason.
I'm torn because while I agree that what Nicole is doing is 100 percent WRONG, I can't help but think she's right about Daniel butting in. But I wonder if I feel that way because the writers insinuate him into so many stories in which he clearly does NOT belong. Maybe if they hadn't foisted Dannifer on us ad nauseum, I wouldn't feel this way??
It's not like this is the first time Daniel has ever talked to nicole about anything. They were friends. I don't see anything wrong with him talking to her about her lies and telling Eric about it but that's just my opinion. Do you not like Daniel and Jennifer together? How cute:Do you not like Daniel with Jennifer?"
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May 29 2014, 10:25 PM
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He could have left and went home for the day. And hadnt come in yet to see if anything new has happened. I like how both Victor and EJ have informants in the police department. I wonder what Victor did to the gun so that the report would be off on the blastics.
I watch the Investigation Discovery channel.When the bullet ls expelled through the gun barrel,the inside of the barrel makes marks on the bullets.I think there is a tool you can insert into the gun barrel that will alter the inside enough to change the marks on the bullets fired from the gun so there won't be an exact match to bullets fired from the gun prior to use of the tool.
Okay thanks i had no idea about that. I am curious how Hope knew it was Victor's gun. Victor said it was a collector's item and that it was registered to him. So if they found out the type of gun, they would trace it to Victor. But I guess Victor jiggered it so that the ballistics won't match, so the evidence will show that the killer had another of the rare guns or some such.
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May 29 2014, 10:28 PM
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Thank you! I like that Hope was protective of her grand-nephew/cousin. She really came through for him. In a related note, I can't still figure out who took those pictures. When did anyone have a chance to take pictures? Hope told the day player cop that she knew how to get in touch with everyone and didn't instruct him to do anything else.
I have never gotten a very good look at Hope's photos. However, I'm pretty sure some of the pictures are supposed to be stills from security footage at HTS. I think there are probably also some additional shots supposedly from hospital surveillance cameras near the elevator. If so, that should likely come into play tomorrow when Hope confronts Gabi. O/W, I agree , there's not been an explanation as to the source of all the photos.
The only time it was explained was when Hope showed EJ the stills photo from Kate's company. I don't think we saw that picture though. But Abby and Ben's pictures looked like they were taken by a photographer. Yes, I do remember now seeing that Babby photo, and it did look like quite the 8x10 glossy.
I imagine its real source was a screen cap printed on photo paper. Much easier for DOOL to do that and not bother shooting some grainier footage to look like security camera shots just for some prop photos. I hope we get to see some more of the photos tomorrow during the Hope-Gabi confrontation and see what they look like.
Although, I will say that security camera shots are getting clearer all the time. The camera that catches me entering the grocery store could probably produce a pretty professional looking still photo. I'm always fixing my hair and adjusting my jacket after getting a look at those images. LOL
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May 29 2014, 10:28 PM
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The only time it was explained was when Hope showed EJ the stills photo from Kate's company. I don't think we saw that picture though. But Abby and Ben's pictures looked like they were taken by a photographer.
Kaha, I agree with you about Hope's actions however she also kept going back to the evidences that had proof that I don't think Hope believed that Will's the actual killer.. why she felt it was Gabi he is protecting is the part I don't get. Viewer knows he was out to protect Sonny for sure and maybe to some degree Lucas. However somehow Hope leaps to the protection being Gabi... I wonder how the evidences got her there since til now she (Hope) has not questioned Gabi in Nick's death.
I am always reticent to apply real life standards to soaps, but Will was not acting like a guilty man. He was totally acting like a man who was acting guilty. The whole no lawyer, refusing to elaborate on details and insisting over and over again he acted alone and most certainly did it - that's not generally how a guilty person acts. And false confessions are a thing in every high profile case for all sorts of reasons. Any detective would be trained to spot a false confession - so Will's fake confession must have been relatively well thought out for Hope to give any credence to it at all. The police always withhold information that only the killer would know (if they have it) - just to weed out the crazies. Excellent points. Hope didn't look convinced from the start. I think she immediately figured out that Will was protecting someone. He was too clinical and his confession was well thought out. The police didn't even need to ask him anything.
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May 29 2014, 10:29 PM
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I'm torn because while I agree that what Nicole is doing is 100 percent WRONG, I can't help but think she's right about Daniel butting in. But I wonder if I feel that way because the writers insinuate him into so many stories in which he clearly does NOT belong. Maybe if they hadn't foisted Dannifer on us ad nauseum, I wouldn't feel this way??
It's not like this is the first time Daniel has ever talked to nicole about anything. They were friends. I don't see anything wrong with him talking to her about her lies and telling Eric about it but that's just my opinion. Do you not like Daniel and Jennifer together?
How cute:Do you not like Daniel with Jennifer?" You must be new to this board! Yes I am. I just joined days royalty recently
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May 29 2014, 10:33 PM
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I get and reluctantly appreciate Daniel and Nicole have been friends. That's whatever. What kills me is how Daniel is making it his life mission at the moment to make sure Nicole does what he thinks is right. Is what he thinks is right...right? Well yea and I hate that too but at the end of the day, it's none of his business. I keep going back to the last scene. Nicole opens the door and there's Ape, all breathless and haggard (what else is new) looking at her like he literally ran all the way over there to handle this situation. Give me a break! This whole thing is just so utterly dumb, I'm annoyed by ever angle of it. Oh well. Nicole will get her yearly crucifixion. Lets get it over with and move on please.
JJ ....what happened to him? He's lost all edge and it's sad because he was exciting to watch up until....yup...the D word comes back into play. Look, it ain't my fault. When Daniel gets into your story, one of two things happen. Ya either get the edge sucked out of you or whatever action you take in life has to be approved by him thus making anything you do uninteresting. I don't need Daniel's take on things and I don't need him running around town to save people he barely knows. Again, give me a break.
Paige is the most lifeless, dullest, not even aware enough to be nails on a chalkboard character I've seen in a looooooong time. It's embarrassing to watch.
NuBen gets a ten from me.
I thought Sami looked good today and wasn't over the top huffy puffy like she usually is. I kinda dug her performance today....maybe it's because I know she's leaving.
I get the whole Will confesses thing but something just feels a tad flat to it and I can't pinpoint what it is. I thought FS was really good today. Glad the show decided not to drag this part of the story out. Gabi grew on me overtime so it'll be interesting seeing her scenes that are coming up.
It was an ok show today. I wasn't blown away by anything. If anything I'm just glad we are one day closer to getting past the misery that is the Nicole story. It's like he has to put all his energy into being right and being "obeyed". Being acknowledged as being right! I think he has a mental illness stemming from the egg baby days.
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May 29 2014, 10:33 PM
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It's not like this is the first time Daniel has ever talked to nicole about anything. They were friends. I don't see anything wrong with him talking to her about her lies and telling Eric about it but that's just my opinion. Do you not like Daniel and Jennifer together?
How cute:Do you not like Daniel with Jennifer?" You must be new to this board!
Yes I am. I just joined days royalty recently Orientation: Everyone (almost everyone) hates Daniel. We find creative ways to show our hatred of Daniel Jonas and Jennifer. As a couple they're called "Fetch"
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May 29 2014, 10:34 PM
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How cute:Do you not like Daniel with Jennifer?" You must be new to this board!
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May 29 2014, 10:35 PM
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Here's the thing. Nicole has proven that when she's committed to a lie, she won't do the "right thing" and confess on her own. Like it or not, Daniel has to keep hounding her or this secret is never going to get revealed.* You could insert anyone else into Daniel's role and have them pressing just as hard for Nicole to tell the truth, but since it's Daniel and most people just absolutely loathe him and love her, it's coming across as him "butting in" when really, he's just doing what is necessary to force Nicole to tell the truth because she won't do that otherwise, period. *And yes, it needs to be revealed, because it was wrong of her to keep this from Eric. Setting aside his decision to return to the priesthood for a moment, it's just wrong of her to keep this from him for his own peace of mind -- it's the one thing that can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, to him and everyone else, that he was innocent all along. The fact that it might also allow him to return to the priesthood is a secondary issue; the main point is that she is choosing to let the whole world (so to speak) continue to believe the worst about him -- that he is a hypocritical priest who was exiled from the church in disgrace after filming himself betraying his vows -- just so that she can hold on to him.
THIS. The last paragraph is my biggest problem with Nicole lying, that she took away his opportunity to clear his name.
Because Oh So many people believe he is guilty. Obviously, his superiors believe it is a real possibility that he is or they would have never suspended him or whatever it is called. It is also obvious that at least some of his parishioners believed him guilty, he even got beaten up over it. I would also imagine that since the video of him and Kristen went viral a majority of the general public more than likely also believe him guilty. Seems like a lot of people. Even if it wasn't so many people he wants to clear his name, it is important to him and she took that opportunity away.
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May 29 2014, 10:35 PM
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Kaha, I agree with you about Hope's actions however she also kept going back to the evidences that had proof that I don't think Hope believed that Will's the actual killer.. why she felt it was Gabi he is protecting is the part I don't get. Viewer knows he was out to protect Sonny for sure and maybe to some degree Lucas. However somehow Hope leaps to the protection being Gabi... I wonder how the evidences got her there since til now she (Hope) has not questioned Gabi in Nick's death.
I am always reticent to apply real life standards to soaps, but Will was not acting like a guilty man. He was totally acting like a man who was acting guilty. The whole no lawyer, refusing to elaborate on details and insisting over and over again he acted alone and most certainly did it - that's not generally how a guilty person acts. And false confessions are a thing in every high profile case for all sorts of reasons. Any detective would be trained to spot a false confession - so Will's fake confession must have been relatively well thought out for Hope to give any credence to it at all. The police always withhold information that only the killer would know (if they have it) - just to weed out the crazies.
Excellent points. Hope didn't look convinced from the start. I think she immediately figured out that Will was protecting someone. He was too clinical and his confession was well thought out. The police didn't even need to ask him anything. Remember when that guy in Thailand confessed to killing JonBenet Ramsey? Apparently he was obsessed with the case and convinced himself he did it and had researched it enough to convince the US authorities to fly the guy back from Thailand under arrest. But the guy's family were on the news and they weren't tearfully denying his guilt- they were puzzled because JonBenet was killed on Christmas and they had proof that he had spent every Christmas with them in Alabama, no where near Colorado.
Anyway, Hope's tone was a lot like that. It wasn't that she didn't think Will could do it, she just didn't think his confession fit but hadn't put her finger on exactly why yet.
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May 29 2014, 10:37 PM
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Yes I am. I just joined days royalty recently
Orientation: Everyone (almost everyone) hates Daniel. We find creative ways to show our hatred of Daniel Jonas and Jennifer. As a couple they're called "Fetch" Anyone else wants to add something?
You hate Daniel and Jennifer like Anne lol :blulaugh: Anne has no reason for her irrational hatred. I have plenty of reasons to hate those two.
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May 29 2014, 10:39 PM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepforce Nicole to tell the truth because she won't do that otherwise, period.
*And yes, it needs to be revealed, because it was wrong of her to keep this from Eric. Setting aside his decision to return to the priesthood for a moment, it's just wrong of her to keep this from him for his own peace of mind -- it's the one thing that can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, to him and everyone else, that he was innocent all along. The fact that it might also allow him to return to the priesthood is a secondary issue; the main point is that she is choosing to let the whole world (so to speak) continue to believe the worst about him -- that he is a hypocritical priest who was exiled from the church in disgrace after filming himself betraying his vows -- just so that she can hold on to him.
THIS. The last paragraph is my biggest problem with Nicole lying, that she took away his opportunity to clear his name.
Because Oh So many people believe he is guilty.
Obviously, his superiors believe it is a real possibility that he is or they would have never suspended him or whatever it is called. It is also obvious that at least some of his parishioners believed him guilty, he even got beaten up over it. I would also imagine that since the video of him and Kristen went viral a majority of the general public more than likely also believe him guilty. Seems like a lot of people. Even if it wasn't so many people he wants to clear his name, it is important to him and she took that opportunity away. His superiors can't think he is too bad. They were prepared to keep him as a monk.
They just want to be seen to be doing something.
And I'd feel sorrier for him if he was shown to be more anguished about his lack of priesthood. He seems to be taking to his new position reasonably well.
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May 29 2014, 10:40 PM
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Daniel shows up at Nicole's door huffy and puffy and stinky and going to demand she listen to his highness. He's. So. Pathetically. Self righteous. And. Manipulative.
Huffy, puffy, and stinky nail that...whatever that emotion was supposed to be!! There is the stereotype of surgeons with a god complex but Daniel takes that soooo ridiculously far. It's amazing that he has all this time to interfere with other peoples' lives. Along with describing him as manipulative: Did Daniel originally suspect Eric was drugged when Nicole first brought him in? I can't remember if he did, I remember labwork but that's about it. I feel like it wouldn't be beyond this show at this point to want the evidence to come out this way so Salem can rejoice that their miracle-worker surgeon is also a miracle-worker lab analysist. And what have they done to JJ? Theresa's near-OD scared him lame! So worried about his Mom and Daniel being ok (psst, JJ! It's an odd-numbered day, they're off again), then needing to blab that Nicole and Eric are eloping? Nicole never ratted YOU out when Daniel covered for you. Post of the day! Good word!
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May 29 2014, 10:41 PM
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Mrs. Hernandez is the most neglectful mother ever especially considering she lives in "West Salem".
Seriously they need to kill her or cast her b/c this is pitiful.
Word she is my least favorite character on the show. I don't think she's even that great of an actress.
Mrs Hernandez is Gabi and Rafe's mother. She was never on the show. :)
So you really think Gabi is the worst character on the show How dare you? :whip: oh and one more thing :whack:
And P.S. their mother is supposedly ill
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May 29 2014, 10:42 PM
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How cute:Do you not like Daniel with Jennifer?" You must be new to this board!
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Well, I regret the 7 minutes of show I actually watched today. I'm never going to get that 7 minutes back.
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Mrs. Hernandez is the most neglectful mother ever especially considering she lives in "West Salem".
Seriously they need to kill her or cast her b/c this is pitiful.
Word she is my least favorite character on the show. I don't think she's even that great of an actress.
Mrs Hernandez is Gabi and Rafe's mother. She was never on the show. :)
So you really think Gabi is the worst character on the show How dare you? :whip: oh and one more thing :whack: And P.S. their mother is supposedly ill Gabi is ill too...in the head
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Yes I am. I just joined days royalty recently
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Names for Daniel: Orangeglow, Dayglow, St. Jonas, St. Douche of Orange, St. Orange the Holy of Douchbaggistan, The Smug One, Eggbaby, Greaseball. HandsyMcPatientgroper, Jonas the Holy, The Unwashed One....there has to be more. Plus, my favorite -- Jonas of Nazareth.
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I am always reticent to apply real life standards to soaps, but Will was not acting like a guilty man. He was totally acting like a man who was acting guilty. The whole no lawyer, refusing to elaborate on details and insisting over and over again he acted alone and most certainly did it - that's not generally how a guilty person acts. And false confessions are a thing in every high profile case for all sorts of reasons. Any detective would be trained to spot a false confession - so Will's fake confession must have been relatively well thought out for Hope to give any credence to it at all. The police always withhold information that only the killer would know (if they have it) - just to weed out the crazies.
Excellent points. Hope didn't look convinced from the start. I think she immediately figured out that Will was protecting someone. He was too clinical and his confession was well thought out. The police didn't even need to ask him anything.
Remember when that guy in Thailand confessed to killing JonBenet Ramsey? Apparently he was obsessed with the case and convinced himself he did it and had researched it enough to convince the US authorities to fly the guy back from Thailand under arrest. But the guy's family were on the news and they weren't tearfully denying his guilt- they were puzzled because JonBenet was killed on Christmas and they had proof that he had spent every Christmas with them in Alabama, no where near Colorado. Anyway, Hope's tone was a lot like that. It wasn't that she didn't think Will could do it, she just didn't think his confession fit but hadn't put her finger on exactly why yet. Just read the Wikipidia page for "Murder of JonBenét Ramsey". Very interesting and extremely tragic all around. Her poor mom. Imagine dealing with cancer, murder of your daughter and people accusing you of her murder.
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May 29 2014, 10:45 PM
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Watching the show now. I guess EJ's informant at the SPD stopped getting info after Lucas was released since he had no idea Will confessed. :blulaugh: Woops.
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