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Alison Sweeney Interview (TV Guide)
Topic Started: May 29 2014, 10:51 AM (8,057 Views)
mer4santo
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Jun 1 2014, 02:57 PM
mer4santo
Jun 1 2014, 02:54 PM
Why are we not talking about AS's insinuation that her soap colleagues are total sluts?
I totally missed this one. lol
Where she wouldn't let any of her friends date a soap actor because they talk about themselves ad nauseum? I I misspoke because she didnt say they were sluts but warning people off all the egotists doesn't seem a big enough deal to comment on.
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Sami I am assuming didn't rape him out of maliciousness based on the nature of her character. I didn't watch that part of the show when Sami did that because I've only watched the show for a year. I however did watch Kristen poison Eric and she raped him. Kristen did it out of maliciousness to upset Marlena because she hates her. I do know that Victor hates Nicole so he probably did it out of maliciousness as well. That's as far as I can comment on the other rape situations since I didn't watch them
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mer4santo
Jun 1 2014, 03:02 PM
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Jun 1 2014, 02:57 PM
mer4santo
Jun 1 2014, 02:54 PM
Why are we not talking about AS's insinuation that her soap colleagues are total sluts?
I totally missed this one. lol
Where she wouldn't let any of her friends date a soap actor because they talk about themselves ad nauseum? I I misspoke because she didnt say they were sluts but warning people off all the egotists doesn't seem a big enough deal to comment on.
I find that comment highly ironic coming from her. (Ducking and hiding)

:peek:
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Jun 1 2014, 05:45 PM
mer4santo
Jun 1 2014, 03:02 PM
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Jun 1 2014, 02:57 PM
mer4santo
Jun 1 2014, 02:54 PM
Why are we not talking about AS's insinuation that her soap colleagues are total sluts?
I totally missed this one. lol
Where she wouldn't let any of her friends date a soap actor because they talk about themselves ad nauseum? I I misspoke because she didnt say they were sluts but warning people off all the egotists doesn't seem a big enough deal to comment on.
I find that comment highly ironic coming from her. (Ducking and hiding)

:peek:
I don't think it is ironic...she mentioned being married to a cop works for her. She probably recognizes that she can be a diva at times and he keeps her real. If anything, she was throwing shade at herself.
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May 29 2014, 03:02 PM
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May 29 2014, 02:48 PM
Who has Sami actually killed? Because they took the Bernaldi thing back and had it that Sami's bullets weren't the ones who killed him. Did she killed that guy Alan who raped her?
I think she shot him in the manbags & he ended up sterile/castrated. I honestly don't think she has "killed" someone yet, but she sure has had more than her fair share of scheming, lying, manipulating, drugging, raping, etc.

Pure speculation, but I wonder if the upcoming storm is what kills EJ...maybe he dies of natural causes after lingering in a coma for a bit?
Lol! That would make two characters portrayed by Scott killed in disasters.
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Kaha
May 31 2014, 09:25 PM
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May 31 2014, 09:09 PM
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May 31 2014, 06:48 PM
Yoryla
May 30 2014, 12:23 PM

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I am sorry but I have to disagree with you. While what Sami did is wrong and an antisocial behavior, her crime is not similar to Victor, Jack, EJ, Kristen, Lawrence or any of the other rapists who populate Salem. Sami was an adolescent girl when she did what she did. In the eyes of the law and society her actions are different, for the following reasons:

1. All of the above listed rapists were adults;
2. They clearly intended harm and ruination
3. they caused their victims irreparable harm

Sami on the other hand, was young and misguided girl who was dealing with incredible trauma and emotional upheaval. She heard something from someone and she didn't think about the ramification, nor did she think it was rape. If I am not mistaken Sami was just recovering from the trauma of her voilent rape.

She's not similar to predator Kristen who was fully aware of what she was doing.

In addition, if she was charged, Sami would not have spent a single day in jail. Why? Because she was not yet an adult. When Sami did what she did, her cognitive, emotional and social maturation was still developing. For that reason, the law has different rules for adults and children in crimes (except when craven politicians get involved to placate the mob).

But even if we don't compare the actions of a confused young girl to the actions of a 30+ and 50+ year olds, and we don't focus on the still developing brain structures of a teenager and full grown adults, the nature of their crimes were still different. It's not true that rape is rape, the same way that it's not true that murder is murder. Every crime has different circumstances and the nature of the crime and the set of circumstances matter a great deal.
I don't disagree that there are some major differences, but I will always take exception to the "was young and misguided girl who was dealing with incredible trauma and emotional upheaval" argument. She was 17. When she kidnapped Belle, she was 16. Sixteen and seventeen year olds know that kidnapping and drugging people are wrong. That's not misguided. A lot of people, especially in Salem, have to deal with emotional upheaval and trauma. That doesn't make her crimes less than they are. It puts them in a larger context, not unlike how Nicole's history and experiences provide a broader context for her. Context and perspective only help our understanding over their motivations, but it doesn't change the severity of what they do.
I think you are completely twisting my points, but whatever.

In my earlier post, I differentiated between the kidnapping and the drugging. The wrong in the kidnapping was a clear cut, but the drugging is not. Let's stipulate that drugging someone is not something that a well adjusted normal person does, regardless of trauma or age. But 17 is till young and scientifically speaking not developed emotionally, physically, cognitively and in terms of maturity. That is why we have juvenile courts.

I am not using history of trauma as a reason to absolve all of Sami's crimes, as you're alluding to, I am just saying, her raping Austin does not have the same weight as EJ's rape or Kristen's rape. When someone is young, troubled and seeking love, they do all kinds of crazy things. Sami was not capable of understanding or connecting her rape to what she was doing to Austin. She just deluded herself that if they "made love," he would love her and they'll be together. She didn't have the full cognitive skills to understand what she was doing and its ramification. If she did the same thing today, then it will be a different story.
Whatever pass her age and past upsets may have afforded her, the problem for me in accepting this is the impact on the VICTIM. Their body was violated. It's still a rape.
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May 31 2014, 09:25 PM
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May 31 2014, 09:09 PM
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May 31 2014, 06:48 PM
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May 30 2014, 12:23 PM

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I am sorry but I have to disagree with you. While what Sami did is wrong and an antisocial behavior, her crime is not similar to Victor, Jack, EJ, Kristen, Lawrence or any of the other rapists who populate Salem. Sami was an adolescent girl when she did what she did. In the eyes of the law and society her actions are different, for the following reasons:

1. All of the above listed rapists were adults;
2. They clearly intended harm and ruination
3. they caused their victims irreparable harm

Sami on the other hand, was young and misguided girl who was dealing with incredible trauma and emotional upheaval. She heard something from someone and she didn't think about the ramification, nor did she think it was rape. If I am not mistaken Sami was just recovering from the trauma of her voilent rape.

She's not similar to predator Kristen who was fully aware of what she was doing.

In addition, if she was charged, Sami would not have spent a single day in jail. Why? Because she was not yet an adult. When Sami did what she did, her cognitive, emotional and social maturation was still developing. For that reason, the law has different rules for adults and children in crimes (except when craven politicians get involved to placate the mob).

But even if we don't compare the actions of a confused young girl to the actions of a 30+ and 50+ year olds, and we don't focus on the still developing brain structures of a teenager and full grown adults, the nature of their crimes were still different. It's not true that rape is rape, the same way that it's not true that murder is murder. Every crime has different circumstances and the nature of the crime and the set of circumstances matter a great deal.
I don't disagree that there are some major differences, but I will always take exception to the "was young and misguided girl who was dealing with incredible trauma and emotional upheaval" argument. She was 17. When she kidnapped Belle, she was 16. Sixteen and seventeen year olds know that kidnapping and drugging people are wrong. That's not misguided. A lot of people, especially in Salem, have to deal with emotional upheaval and trauma. That doesn't make her crimes less than they are. It puts them in a larger context, not unlike how Nicole's history and experiences provide a broader context for her. Context and perspective only help our understanding over their motivations, but it doesn't change the severity of what they do.
I think you are completely twisting my points, but whatever.

In my earlier post, I differentiated between the kidnapping and the drugging. The wrong in the kidnapping was a clear cut, but the drugging is not. Let's stipulate that drugging someone is not something that a well adjusted normal person does, regardless of trauma or age. But 17 is till young and scientifically speaking not developed emotionally, physically, cognitively and in terms of maturity. That is why we have juvenile courts.

I am not using history of trauma as a reason to absolve all of Sami's crimes, as you're alluding to, I am just saying, her raping Austin does not have the same weight as EJ's rape or Kristen's rape. When someone is young, troubled and seeking love, they do all kinds of crazy things. Sami was not capable of understanding or connecting her rape to what she was doing to Austin. She just deluded herself that if they "made love," he would love her and they'll be together. She didn't have the full cognitive skills to understand what she was doing and its ramification. If she did the same thing today, then it will be a different story.

Jean Piaget would disagree with you about a 17-year old not having "full cognitive skills".

But, since Elvis "thought he was making love" to Samonther when he raped her, that makes them both still about the same cognitive age as Sami when she raped Austin. Isn't that what he said?
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Jun 2 2014, 08:47 AM
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I don't disagree that there are some major differences, but I will always take exception to the "was young and misguided girl who was dealing with incredible trauma and emotional upheaval" argument. She was 17. When she kidnapped Belle, she was 16. Sixteen and seventeen year olds know that kidnapping and drugging people are wrong. That's not misguided. A lot of people, especially in Salem, have to deal with emotional upheaval and trauma. That doesn't make her crimes less than they are. It puts them in a larger context, not unlike how Nicole's history and experiences provide a broader context for her. Context and perspective only help our understanding over their motivations, but it doesn't change the severity of what they do.
I think you are completely twisting my points, but whatever.

In my earlier post, I differentiated between the kidnapping and the drugging. The wrong in the kidnapping was a clear cut, but the drugging is not. Let's stipulate that drugging someone is not something that a well adjusted normal person does, regardless of trauma or age. But 17 is till young and scientifically speaking not developed emotionally, physically, cognitively and in terms of maturity. That is why we have juvenile courts.

I am not using history of trauma as a reason to absolve all of Sami's crimes, as you're alluding to, I am just saying, her raping Austin does not have the same weight as EJ's rape or Kristen's rape. When someone is young, troubled and seeking love, they do all kinds of crazy things. Sami was not capable of understanding or connecting her rape to what she was doing to Austin. She just deluded herself that if they "made love," he would love her and they'll be together. She didn't have the full cognitive skills to understand what she was doing and its ramification. If she did the same thing today, then it will be a different story.

Jean Piaget would disagree with you about a 17-year old not having "full cognitive skills".

But, since Elvis "thought he was making love" to Samonther when he raped her, that makes them both still about the same cognitive age as Sami when she raped Austin. Isn't that what he said?
I LOVE a poster who knows who Piaget is!!!!
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Jun 1 2014, 07:04 PM
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Where she wouldn't let any of her friends date a soap actor because they talk about themselves ad nauseum? I I misspoke because she didnt say they were sluts but warning people off all the egotists doesn't seem a big enough deal to comment on.
I find that comment highly ironic coming from her. (Ducking and hiding)

:peek:
I don't think it is ironic...she mentioned being married to a cop works for her. She probably recognizes that she can be a diva at times and he keeps her real. If anything, she was throwing shade at herself.
Sure.
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ladyofthelake
Jun 3 2014, 05:39 AM
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Jun 2 2014, 08:47 AM
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May 31 2014, 09:25 PM
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May 31 2014, 09:09 PM

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I think you are completely twisting my points, but whatever.

In my earlier post, I differentiated between the kidnapping and the drugging. The wrong in the kidnapping was a clear cut, but the drugging is not. Let's stipulate that drugging someone is not something that a well adjusted normal person does, regardless of trauma or age. But 17 is till young and scientifically speaking not developed emotionally, physically, cognitively and in terms of maturity. That is why we have juvenile courts.

I am not using history of trauma as a reason to absolve all of Sami's crimes, as you're alluding to, I am just saying, her raping Austin does not have the same weight as EJ's rape or Kristen's rape. When someone is young, troubled and seeking love, they do all kinds of crazy things. Sami was not capable of understanding or connecting her rape to what she was doing to Austin. She just deluded herself that if they "made love," he would love her and they'll be together. She didn't have the full cognitive skills to understand what she was doing and its ramification. If she did the same thing today, then it will be a different story.

Jean Piaget would disagree with you about a 17-year old not having "full cognitive skills".

But, since Elvis "thought he was making love" to Samonther when he raped her, that makes them both still about the same cognitive age as Sami when she raped Austin. Isn't that what he said?
I LOVE a poster who knows who Piaget is!!!!
Piaget was a developmental psychologist. His works are pretty influential in the fields of child rearing and education. I'm assuming franciose is my fellow educator. Are you, too?
Edited by OliveAnn, Jun 3 2014, 12:32 PM.
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Jean Piaget would disagree with you about a 17-year old not having "full cognitive skills".

But, since Elvis "thought he was making love" to Samonther when he raped her, that makes them both still about the same cognitive age as Sami when she raped Austin. Isn't that what he said?
I LOVE a poster who knows who Piaget is!!!!
Piaget was a developmental psychologist. His works are pretty influential in the fields of child rearing and education. I'm assuming franciose is my fellow educator. Are you, too?
Ph.D. candidate in music education. Seriously.
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I LOVE a poster who knows who Piaget is!!!!
Piaget was a developmental psychologist. His works are pretty influential in the fields of child rearing and education. I'm assuming franciose is my fellow educator. Are you, too?
Ph.D. candidate in music education. Seriously.

He developed the four stage paradigm based on the observation of his own children's moral development. Hahaha!!

Yep. Fellow ignorance slayer here.
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I LOVE a poster who knows who Piaget is!!!!
Piaget was a developmental psychologist. His works are pretty influential in the fields of child rearing and education. I'm assuming franciose is my fellow educator. Are you, too?
Ph.D. candidate in music education. Seriously.
That is awesome and impressive, actually.
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Piaget was a developmental psychologist. His works are pretty influential in the fields of child rearing and education. I'm assuming franciose is my fellow educator. Are you, too?
Ph.D. candidate in music education. Seriously.
That is awesome and impressive, actually.
Thanks. Piaget pops up in a heck of a lot of studies. Although I think the whole process is slowly driving me criminally insane. Wait....Nick was a professor.......uh, oh.
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Can his hair be the #1 crime against humanity?
I'm not sure about number one but it certainly should rank.

Remember hood hair has to compete with zombie walk & morgue cry.
Saw a pic of James on twitter from the Canadian fan event...the hair has been cut, I repeat, the hair has been cut.

James cuts his hair & Ali goes back to blonde. I guess they're glad to be free of the dreaded Days hair crew.
All i could think about with ej the other day's episode was how embarrassing his hair was. This hair and makeup crew need to be tried and convicted for crimes against fashion
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Did anyone else catch AS on The Chew yesterday? They played a game where audience members had to guess what emotion she was portraying just through her facial expressions. :)

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