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Wednesday, June 4th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 3 2014, 11:26 PM (22,608 Views)
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blueskies
Jun 4 2014, 12:15 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:13 PM
MissLola
Jun 4 2014, 11:11 AM
Lol. Another midol product placement. :blulaugh:
*another"?
yes,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2CuhtuwV2o
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Some of the dialogue in this episode made absolutely no sense to me. I get that Rafe is upset, but he repeatedly complained about Sami during his conversation with Gabi, and that would have only made sense if he had known about Sami's involvement in the river incident. He doesn't even know there was a river incident, let alone that Sami was involved, so his concerns about E.J. and Marlena being connected to Sami didn't make a bit of sense to me.

Then there was Gabi telling Will about the various things that Arianna likes, as if he isn't the child's father and hasn't been living under the same roof with her and spending just as much time with her as Gabi has. Again, I get that Gabi is just coming to terms with the fact that she's going to be separated from Arianna for the foreseeable future, but that dialogue still annoyed me -- it just seemed really inappropriate, given the circumstances. It's not like she was handing Arianna over to Rafe or some other person who wouldn't already know those things. That kind of dialogue is suitable for situations like baby swaps, illegal adoptions, or kidnappings -- like when Bo and Hope had to turn J.T. over to Glen and Barb or when Nicole had to turn Sydney over to Sami -- but not for a situation like this.

I wish that Gabi's "one last confession" would have involved admitting to Will that she had known, practically from the very beginning, that Nick was a homophobe. I don't expect that to actually come out, but frankly, the fact that Gabi slept with Nick for the first time immediately after hearing him condemn Will and Sonny's "lifestyle choices", as if it were foreplay to her, has always been one of the things about her that has irritated me the most. She's often proven to be a horrible excuse for a "friend" of Will and Sonny's, but that moment just might have taken the cake, IMO. In fact, everything that happened afterward can arguably be traced back to that pivotal moment where she chose to sleep with Nick instead of telling him to leave and letting Will and Sonny know about Nick's homophobia. That was her first big warning sign -- one that might have come before Nick's obsession had truly kicked in, since they had not yet slept together at that time, nor had he declared his love for her yet -- and she completely ignored it.
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Jun 4 2014, 01:08 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 01:16 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 01:00 PM
today's episode was directed by Steven Williford from a script written by Carolyn Culliton
So nice to see she can still write good soap scenes when Fetch is not involved. Fetch has set CC on the road to ruination, but let's hope this episode was the beginning of a redemption arc.
I fully agree - the Cullitons have been GREATLY damaged by FETCH IMO!
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KAM
Jun 4 2014, 03:40 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 03:31 PM
PatNS
Jun 4 2014, 02:44 PM
So who was Bev talking to? Who has come back to town?
My first thought was Cole. He could have returned to Salem after being released from prison. He would care about what J.J. had been up to, since he never liked J.J. And Bev did just mention his name a few days ago.
I just posted a similar thought before seeing this. :) Does seem likely doesn't it?
Much more likely than Eve, who doesn't really have any reason to care about what J.J. has been up to. It's not like Bev can give Eve some dirt that Eve can use to get J.J. sent to prison to stick it to Jennifer or anything like that. He's just dating someone who isn't Bev. Big deal.
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Yoryla
Jun 4 2014, 03:03 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:58 PM
so our big cliffhanger before the long weekend is Abby & Gabi face to face? mmkay
Well considering her part in the Daysaster, I think that's a pretty big one... I mean it coming out has been two years in the making.
I know she is not directly responsible, but indirectly she is the reason Jack is dead.

Take away her actions and two people would be alive: Jack and Madison.
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Jun 4 2014, 04:01 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 02:59 PM
So did Brady remember that he was once in love with Rafe and Gabi's sister Arianna? I always thought that he should have saw a little of Arianna in Gabi.
No, that wasn't mentioned. Arianna's death was mentioned when Jordan reminded Rafe that as bad as Gabi's situation is, she's still alive.

But then again, Arianna was at least two fiances and two fuck buddies ago as far as Brady is concerned.
Ah I always wondered what the song after "20 years and 2 husbands ago" would be, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0vQ5qt3JbI&feature=kp
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Jun 4 2014, 04:14 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:15 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:13 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 11:11 AM
Lol. Another midol product placement. :blulaugh:
*another"?
yes,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2CuhtuwV2o
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Agreed. I used to think the frozen chinese food one was hands down the worst product placement but i'm not so sure after re-watching this. It's pretty cringeworthy.
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The product placements don't bother me, to be honest. I look at them as a necessary evil to keep the show on the air, and I'd rather have the show on the air with product placements than have it cancelled due to financial concerns that came about, at least in part, due to the lack of them. And it's not like they happen that often. This is the first one I can recall seeing in at least a year, if not longer. The last one was about a snack mix or something like that, IIRC -- it occurred in the pub, and I think Bo and Caroline were involved.

And plenty of prime time shows have product placements -- the cars people drive in them, the phones people use in them, the restaurants people eat at in them -- so it's not like Days is the only show that does this. They just have to be a bit more blatant about it due to the nature of the show.
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Did anyone else think it was sweet of Aiden to contact Gabi & offer to represent her? He was her family court lawyer & they had only met once, plus the custody suit was basically dropped, so it's not like he had some sort of obligation to her.
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http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/

Director: Steven Williford
Scriptwriter: Carolyn Culliton


Segment 1: Repeat of Brady trying to fight with John. When Theresa sees Hope she tries to break up the fight.

JJ sees Bev in the park and remembers his conversation with Paige about Bev's STD tests and Bev playing with her head. JJ walks up to her and says they are going to get a couple of things straight.

Paige is at JJ's door asking Abby if JJ is home. Abby doesn't know where he is and she doesn't really care to be honest. Paige - Sorry to bother you. Abby apologises. It's me. I'm sorry. I had no right to talk to you like that. Paige - Are you okay? Abby - Yeah, I'm ... no, I'm not. I'm definitely not okay. She breaks down.

Jordan - You're my brother. I know you own a gun and that you were furious about the way Nick treated Abigail. I also know how you get when you feel a man has been mistreating a woman. Ben - My God Jordan, you don't think I'm any better than him, do you?

Sonny - This is all my fault. If it weren't for me Gabi never would have done this. Will - Gabi shot Nick for a whole lot of reasons none of which had anything to do with you.

Gabi - Look at what I've done to the people I care about the most; my baby, you ... Rafe - No, I'm the one who let you down. Gabi - No, you're the best brother ... Rafe - No. I did not do all that I could have. I let him drive you to shoot him. A good brother would never have let that happen.

JJ and Bev go a couple of rounds over Bev's tests. Bev maintains she was just trying to stop Paige from thinking what Paige was already thinking - that it involved JJ.

Abby apologises again. Paige knows about Nick. Do you want to talk? Abby says there is other stuff going on. And on top of everything else I'm not feeling very well. Paige asks if she has a cold or something. Abby - No, I have cramps and I'm bloated. It's really bugging me. Paige - Have you taken anything? Cue Midol complete commercial courtesy of Abby. She's out of it. Paige has some. Abby thanks her. Paige - Is that your only problem. Abby - No. I found out something really awful about Nick and his ex-wife who is also my best friend. Paige - What did she do? Abby - I feel like I've lost her too.

Brady tells Hope he told his Dad to leave him and Theresa alone but he wouldn't. Hope looks at John - You couldn't just walk away. John - He walks around high half the time. He's taken up with her now. If he were your son would you walk away? Hope - You two better find a better way to disagree or I'll haul you both in. John gets a text. Brady taunts him and asks if that's Kristen saying she's available. John just got some news about Gabi Hernandez. Brady - What's going on with Gabi? Hope - Well you're going to hear about it anyway. Might as well hear it from me. She was arrested for murder.

Gabi - Rafe, none of this is your fault. I let Nick back into my life. I let him control me. Rafe - I just wish you would have come to me and told me. Gabi - There were so many reasons I couldn't come to you. I swear, if I could have ... Rafe - Shooting Nick ... that seemed like a better plan? Gabi - It wasn't planned. Rafe - He drove you to it. Gabi - No I did it Rafe. I took a gun and I put 3 bullets in Nick and I'm not going to make excuses for myself and I'm not going to let you make them for me. This time I have to pay.


Segment 2: Bev ties into JJ saying she didn't want Paige to think badly of him. JJ backs down and informs her that it didn't mess things up between him and Paige; it actually made them closer. Bev - Have fun with her while she's still around. JJ will. It's going to be the best summer ever. He leaves.

Sonny - Thanks for trying to let me off the hook but I'm the one who brought the gun into the apt. Sonny gets a text. I have to call the club. Will - We were both caught up in a rotten situation with a really sick guy and we both did things we wish we hadn't done so please, try not to feel guilty. Sonny will work on it. They hug.

Jordan takes Ben's hand. You are nothing like he is. You never have been and you never will be. Ben - I have a temper and you know it. That's why you thought ... Jordan - I don't know what I thought. I heard about this and I got scared, okay! I was remembering what happened before. Ben - Like either one of us could ever forget that. Jordan - Yeah. Ben - I get it but we're here in Salem now. Nobody else knows what happened. Now this whole thing with Fallon is over. Jordan - Well I don't think it's ever going to be over for Rafe. He just feels so guilty now. He always felt responsible for Gabi. Ben - The same way you always felt about me, right? Jordan - Right.

Gabi - EJ says he'll work it out so that I get sent to a woman's prison that's not far from here. Rafe - I just don't know why you're trusting EJ. I know criminal lawyers. Why don't you just talk to one of them. Gabi - I trust EJ. Rafe - Okay but how do you know that EJ's not just doing what Sami thinks is best for you. Gabi - Rafe, I killed Nick. No lawyer is going to be able to get me off. Rafe - Yeah but if you plead guilty there are no guarantees. EJ damn well knows that. Gabi - Rafe, it boils down to one thing. As horrible as Nick was to me, he didn't want to kill me. I had no right to take his life.


Segment 3: And the Midol spiel continues. JJ comes home just at the right time, when it's over. What's going on? Paige - Abigail can tell you. I promised my mom I'd call her and let her know how my final went. I'll do that in the kitchen. She leaves the room. JJ - You guys talking about me? Abby - No, something really bad happened. JJ - What? Abby - You might want to sit down for this.

Hope - I knew Will was covering for someone. I figured it had to be either Sonny or Gabi. I confronted Gabi first and she broke down and admitted everything. Brady - OMG. Hope - Her little girl just celebrated her first birthday. And Rafe, well ... John - Yeah, I can only imagine. Hope - When you two are thinking about what happened between you remember something. No matter how painful it's been, nobody died. I suggest you start dealing with it in a different manner. Stop thinking about yourselves. Stop being so selfish and focus on the people who really have problems. Brady - You've made yourself very clear. He leaves. Theresa - I should probably call Mom and Dad. They'll want to know what happened.

Jordan - All big sisters feel like they have to take care of their little brothers. Ben - So the older sister gets a boyfriend ... Ben gets a call from Sonny asking if the paycheques have been messengered over to the club. Yeah. Sonny can't get over to sign them today. Could you drop them off when you're shift is over. Ben - Laurie's here. We're not that busy. I can do it right now if you want. Sonny - That would be great. Ben tells Jordan he has to take this over to Sonny. He says he can't get away. I guess now I know why. Jordan - About what you just said ... Ben - Don't worry. What you told me earlier about Gabi and Rafe won't go any further.

Gabi - Dr. Evans says I'm in my right mind. Rafe - Dr. Evans! She's Sami's mother. How much did you say to her? Gabi - You can't keep acting like nothing I do is really my fault. Rafe - I held you the day you were born. I know you're not a bad person. Gabi cries - But I did some very bad things and I have to face the consequences. And someday I have to try and explain this to my daughter and I don't want to have to tell her that you fixed it so that I got away with what I did. I mean it Rafe. I will never forget all the things that you've done for me and I love you so much but it's time that I stand on my own two feet. You get that, right?


Segment 4: Brady and Theresa are back at her place. Brady - Gabi's brother must be going nuts right now. Theresa - Who's her brother? Brady - His name is Rafe. Theresa - Rafe Hernandez. Didn't he used to be married to Sami? Brady - Yeah for a while. We're actually pretty good friends. Theresa - You're friends with a cop! Brady - Yes, it was a lifetime ago. I should go see him. Theresa says he's not really in the best shape. You might want to call him instead. Brady agrees.

Rafe - So Dario called, he wants to know why he stopped hearing from you. Gabi - Can you tell him. I just can't face that right now. Rafe - Okay. What about Mom? Gabi - Rafe, I can't. I'll fall apart. Rafe - Okay, I'll tell her. Gabi cries - I'm sorry to make you do it. Rafe hugs her - Stop, it's okay. There's a knock on the door. It's a cop - You've got another visitor. Will comes in. Gabi - Hi. Rafe - It's actually good you're here. I've got to go make some calls. Do you want me to stay? Gabi - No, go make those calls. That's the best thing you can do for me right now. I'll be okay. Rafe leaves the room. Gabi - How's the baby? Will - When she woke up from her nap she started saying Mama, Mama. She wants you. Gabi sobs. Will holds her.

Sonny, who is holding Ari, opens the door to Ben and introduces Ben to Arianna. Ben knows. We've meant. Sonny hands Ari over to Ben. Sonny notices the overtime isn't on the cheques. He's going to call the accountant. He asks Ben if he can watch Ari for a few minutes.

Rafe is in the park talking on his cell. I want anything you have on Nick Fallon's time spent in prison and I want it before Gabi's plea. Look again Tim, this is my sister. Jordan walks up behind him. Okay, thank you. I really appreciate it. God! He sees Jordan. How'd you find me here. Jordan - I know you always come this way after leaving headquarters. Who were you yelling at? Rafe - Just an old friend of mine at the Bureau who's obviously sick of me asking him for favours so I feel like I'm doing something for Gabi. Jordan - I can't even begin to imagine how hard this is for you. Rafe - It's just when my other sister was dying I promised her I'd take care of Gabi. I'm really doing a bang up job, huh. Jordan - We can't live their lives for them. Rafe - You should have seen her when she was a little girl. She was the sweetest, most beautiful ... I should have .. I should have ... Jordan holds him.

Abby - Paige came by looking for you. She could see I was wreck. She's really great. JJ - So what's going to happen with the baby. Abby - OMG, Ari. I didn't even think about it. I guess Will and Sonny ... OMG, this is so sad. JJ - I haven't even seen Sonny or Will except for in the club. I was too busy making trouble. I'm going over to the apt. Tell them I can babysit or whatever they need. Do you want to come with me? Abby - No there's something I have to do first.

Hope stops in the park. Julie and Maggie need to hear this from me. She sits on a bench. She stares at a picture of Bo on her phone. How am I supposed to get through this without you to talk to. How am I supposed to explain this to Ciara. What do I say to your Mom? Where the hell are you Brady! What could be more important than your family! She leans her head back and closes her eyes. A shadow falls over her face. She opens her eyes and sees Aiden.


Segment 5: Jordan - You were in a hospital bed when Gabi was going through the most difficult time in her life and that couldn't be helped. That's life. You didn't do anything wrong. Rafe - Right. Making this about me is not going to help Gabi, is it? Jordan - She has an awful time ahead of her but she's not going to die like her sister did so there's still a lot you can to do to love and support her and to me that's what matters now, I think. Rafe - You're right. I didn't think anything could make me feel better today but you just did. Gabi wants me to tell our mother and her brother that we never see. Jordan - See, there is something that you can do. Rafe - Yeah. But how do I do that? How do I tell our mother that her baby is going to prison.

Gabi - Will, I want you to know something. After I shot Nick I went into this trance. I just felt so relieved that he couldn't hound me anymore. It just felt like everything was going to be okay. And then Sonny told me that you'd confessed and I snapped out of that. Will - You don't have to explain. Gabi - Yes I do. Before Hope showed up to the apt. I was getting ready to come over here. I was going to tell the police that I had done it because I was not going to allow ... Will - I was covering for Sonny. I thought he had done it. It never entered my mind ... I'm sorry. Gabi - Do you remember the day we met? Will - Sydney was missing. You helped put up flyers. That's just the kind of person you are. Gabi - It seems like such a long time ago. I wish maybe we had a crystal ball or something so we could have seen what was coming. Will - We never would have had our beautiful daughter. You're still my best friend. Gabi - Still? Will - Nick was a mastermind. He pushed you to the edge ... Gabi - Don't. I did it. Me. I did this. And it's like what I told Rafe, that means I have to pay.

Theresa takes some money out of Brady's wallet. This should cover it. Maybe I'll stop by and say hello to Will because he is family. She leaves. Brady makes a call to Rafe and leaves a voicemail. It's Brady. I haven't talked to you in a long time. I heard about Gabi and she is young ... he rambles. Sorry man.

John is at the pub. Hey Doc, it's John. I just heard about Gabi Hernandez and I know how upset you must be about her, Will and the baby so if you want to talk about it I'm here.

Hope - I wasn't expecting to see you here. Aiden - I was in court all morning. I needed a break. How are you doing? Hope - Great! Aiden - Well there it is. Hope - There's what? Aiden - That smile you force when you're upset. You used it on me a lot when we first met. You deployed it at the bake sale when that prissy little girl didn't give the right change. Hope - Didn't realise I did that. Aiden - Hey, you want to talk about it? They sit on the bench. Hope - It's just one ... she starts to cry ... it's pretty complicated. He puts his arm around her and she lays her head on his shoulder and cries.


Segment 6: Hope sits up. Sorry, I don't usually do that. She gets some tissue out of her purse. Aiden - Having a miserable day, huh. Hate when that happens. Hope - Me too. Aiden - When I was at the courthouse I heard that Gabi Hernandez confessed to killing Nick Fallon. I called her, left her a message, offered to represent her. What's this like for you? Hope - Oh God, I just wanted to believe so badly that he'd changed; that he was okay. Aiden - You know, from what I saw of Nick, he had a mind of his own and for whatever the reason Gabi wasn't asking for help. There was really nothing that you could have done. Hope - You know what, I'm really sorry but you're basing that on one meeting. You didn't really know anything about the situation or me, for that matter. Aiden - Maybe you're right about Gabi and Nick but I know you better than you think.

Bev gets a call. She's glad this person is back. I'll catch you up on what's been happening since you left including the new and improved JJ Deveraux.

Sonny opens the door to JJ and Paige. JJ introduces the two. Sonny invites them in. Sonny introduces Ben to JJ and Paige. JJ is my cousin, more importantly, Abigail's brother. JJ - You know Abigail. Ben - Just met her. She seems great. JJ - Where's Ari. Sonny just put her down for a nap. JJ - I don't know what to say except that I'm sorry. Sonny - Yeah, me too.

Gabi - If you can't get Arianna to sleep just rub her feet, she loves that. Oh and when you turn the lights off just before she goes to bed tell her to blow because she thinks she can blow them out. She really likes that. I'll make you a list of other things to do. Will - Sonny and I will talk about you all the time. Gabi - EJ's pretty sure you'll be able to bring her to visit me and I can get email and videos. Will - We'll write you every day and tell you everything she does. Gabi - Oh, she's pulling herself up on the furniture. That means she's going to be walking soon. I'm not going to be there for that but I'm so happy that she has you and Sonny because if she didn't I'd go crazy. Well, crazier than I already am. Will - We'll take good care of her. Gabi - I know you will. I'm only going to be able to see her every once and a while until she's talking I can't tell her why; I can't help her understand. Will holds her.

Rafe is on his cell. I know that this is hard. Mom, mommy I can't understand you when you're crying so hard. Rosales? Oh thank God. I'm glad she's not alone. Well I don't know what to say to her except that I love her. Yeah I want to tell her that everything is going to be okay but I can't. I will. I will call you as soon as I hear anything. Bye. Rafe - Well that was brutal. Jordan - I don't think there is a gentle way to tell a mother that her only surviving daughter is facing prison. Rafe - She used to tell me, you're the older brother, you look out for them. You take care of your sisters. Jordan - You did everything you could. Rafe disagrees. I didn't even come close.


Segment 7: Hope stands up. No, you don't know me as well as you think you do. Aiden - Well I disagree. See I have the unique view of someone who misjudged you on sight. But then when I finally got to see who you really are I decided you know I should be a little bit more observant. And I have been. Hope - And what do you see? Aiden - I see a good and decent person. Someone who doesn't give herself enough credit for all the good that you do so sorry if I disappoint you but I'm going to continue to think of you as an awesome lady. But don't let it go to your head. Hope - You don't have to worry about that. Aiden - Come on, you know that I'm right. Just admit it. Hope smiles.

Theresa returns home. The deli couldn't make change for a hundred so I got some Chinese. She sees that Brady is putting his shoes on. What are you doing? Brady - I'm getting out of here. Theresa suggests it will be easier to face the big bad world after another bump. Brady - Why not!

JJ has programed his number into Sonny's cell. If you need anything just call. Babysitting, something from the store, you name it. Ben asks Paige if she talked to Abigail. How's she taking all this? Paige - She's pretty upset that ... Ben - What? Paige - OMG. I knew that I'd seen you before. You used to live in Miami, right?

Rafe takes Jordan's hand. Sorry I snapped at you. Jordan - There's nothing you could have done. Gabi is an adult that took matters into her own hands. Rafe - Everything seemed so simple before when it was just the two of us getting to know each other, falling in love. You do know those days are over, right? Jordan - I know how hard this is going to be and I know where your focus is going to be but just know that no matter what I am here okay. Rafe - Okay. They hug.

Will - We'll get our daughter through this. We'll find a way to make her understand. Gabi - Promise. Will - Promise. I'll handle that and EJ will handle all the legal stuff, okay. Gabi hugs him - I love you and tell Sonny I love him too. The cop returns - You've got another visitor. Will tells Gabi he'll be back. Gabi - Kiss our daughter for me. Will nods and then leaves. Abby comes in. OMG. Gabi - Don't say anything until you know the truth.
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Jun 4 2014, 03:00 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:48 PM
so... about all of those people claiming Gabi was trying to ruin Will & Sonny's happiness for her own selfishness...
To be fair, the show completely changed Gabi's motivation. For months she was fighting with everyone and reaching out to Nick. She didn't look like someone who was afraid of Nick. She slapped Sami, picked a fight (twice) with Sonny on not inviting Nick; she told everyone that she trusts Nick and without him she wouldn't have got her dream job; she told Will and Sonny they need to get used to seeing Nick, if they want her and Arianna to still live with them and let's not forget Gabi telling Nick to take care of Sami. There was no indication that she didn't believe/mean any of that. The only time she showed fear and disagreement was when they met with Aidan and after Nick forced her to set a court date.
WHAT?!??! You surely can't mean THESE writers changing direction midstream with a character and/or storyline. :sarcasm:
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I'm always amused at everyone's reactions to [product placements because, thanks to listening to OTR soaps quite a bit, soaps used to work product ads, promotions, and "giveaways" ("send 10 box tops, plus postage, for a free pair of luxurious simulated diamond earrings just like the ones our beloved Marlena is wearing today to..."). This ain't nothing.
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Wow Gabi is really firing on all cylinders.

Emmy winning stunning performance and possession of the Salem Brain.

"it boils down to one thing. As horrible as Nick was to me, he didn't want to kill me. I had no right to take his life."
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Yoryla
Jun 4 2014, 03:03 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:58 PM
so our big cliffhanger before the long weekend is Abby & Gabi face to face? mmkay
Well considering her part in the Daysaster, I think that's a pretty big one... I mean it coming out has been two years in the making.
I don't think Abby's and Gabi's conversation will be about Melanie's kidnapping or the Daysaster since Gabi had nothing to do with it. Andrew is the one who caused the explosion not Gabi. Gabi's confession about her part in hiring Andrew to stalk her has not been made public knowledge as far as I've seen so Abby 's confrontation with her friend should be about Nick's shooting.
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Jun 4 2014, 12:05 PM
"Do you ever have that not so fresh feeling..." (well, they might as well have said that)
OMG we'll have a Summers Eve product placement next.
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Jun 4 2014, 03:00 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:48 PM
so... about all of those people claiming Gabi was trying to ruin Will & Sonny's happiness for her own selfishness...
To be fair, the show completely changed Gabi's motivation. For months she was fighting with everyone and reaching out to Nick. She didn't look like someone who was afraid of Nick. She slapped Sami, picked a fight (twice) with Sonny on not inviting Nick; she told everyone that she trusts Nick and without him she wouldn't have got her dream job; she told Will and Sonny they need to get used to seeing Nick, if they want her and Arianna to still live with them and let's not forget Gabi telling Nick to take care of Sami. There was no indication that she didn't believe/mean any of that. The only time she showed fear and disagreement was when they met with Aidan and after Nick forced her to set a court date.
There is no indication that Gabi did not believe all of these things when she said and did them. Even though she looked uncomfortable about Nick forcing the custody issue from her talking to Ari afterwards it is obvious she was still willing to go along. According to her confession she only really caught on to Nick's intentions when she heard his conversation with Sonny. So to my thinking up to that point she was willing to go along with Nick, and then she found out that he intended to be controlling her as well. Then she meets up with Abigail and finds out he is blackmailing her too and she can't even tell herself that it is because he loves her. She has to face the fact that not only is this who Nick is, but that like Abigail says he is enjoying it. Her motivation did not change it was always protecting herself and her daughter, she just realized siding with Nick was not a protection for them. To be fair no one ever accused her of trying to ruin Will and Sonny's happiness. The point being made was that Gabi was willing to turn her back on those looking out for and trying to help her when it was to her benefit, and she did that repeatedly. After Nick's conversation with Sonny it was no longer to her benefit. That does not change the fact that Gabi's story is tragic and that her actions now are in consideration of those she was not worried about before. Personally, while I had a problem with her siding with Nick against the others, I would not really have a problem if she told about what happened at the river. The outcome seems unbalanced somehow with her and Kami. The problem is if she told what happened at the river it would seem as if the shooting would be her accomplishing what she had tried before which was to kill Nick. It would be easy to disregard all the mitigating circumstances and look at the shooting as her second and successful attempt to kill Nick. Getting her a deal would be impossible in that case.
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Jun 4 2014, 03:00 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:48 PM
so... about all of those people claiming Gabi was trying to ruin Will & Sonny's happiness for her own selfishness...
To be fair, the show completely changed Gabi's motivation. For months she was fighting with everyone and reaching out to Nick. She didn't look like someone who was afraid of Nick. She slapped Sami, picked a fight (twice) with Sonny on not inviting Nick; she told everyone that she trusts Nick and without him she wouldn't have got her dream job; she told Will and Sonny they need to get used to seeing Nick, if they want her and Arianna to still live with them and let's not forget Gabi telling Nick to take care of Sami. There was no indication that she didn't believe/mean any of that. The only time she showed fear and disagreement was when they met with Aidan and after Nick forced her to set a court date.
Gabi has always insisted that she would never want to keep Will from his daughter no matter what. That doesn't seem like something a selfish person would do. Gabi made a lot of mistakes but never deliberately set out to hurt anybody and she was a victim in all this. Everybody wanted Nick dead , it's just sad she's the one who has to pay by leaving behind a small child to grow up without her mother.
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Dare I hope that Bev was talking to Eve on the phone? I feel like Bev would be the perfect person to be Eve's daughter. Bev previously mentioned her dad but never her mom, so maybe Bev lives with her dad and only sees her mom occasionally.

Eve can come to Salem and scheme to make JJ fall in love with Bev. This would serve Eve's dual purpose of helping her daughter AND making Jennifer miserable! Plus, if Bev were Eve's daughter, then Theresa would be Bev's aunt. And if Eve helped Bev get together with JJ, this would create some good soapy drama since Bev's aunt Theresa also has feelings for JJ!

I hope Bev's phone call is part of a larger storyline and doesn't become just a dropped plot point. (And I'll be super disappointed if boring Paige ends up being Eve's daughter!)
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Kinay
Jun 4 2014, 05:30 PM
Kaha
Jun 4 2014, 03:00 PM
Matt
Jun 4 2014, 12:48 PM
so... about all of those people claiming Gabi was trying to ruin Will & Sonny's happiness for her own selfishness...
To be fair, the show completely changed Gabi's motivation. For months she was fighting with everyone and reaching out to Nick. She didn't look like someone who was afraid of Nick. She slapped Sami, picked a fight (twice) with Sonny on not inviting Nick; she told everyone that she trusts Nick and without him she wouldn't have got her dream job; she told Will and Sonny they need to get used to seeing Nick, if they want her and Arianna to still live with them and let's not forget Gabi telling Nick to take care of Sami. There was no indication that she didn't believe/mean any of that. The only time she showed fear and disagreement was when they met with Aidan and after Nick forced her to set a court date.
Gabi has always insisted that she would never want to keep Will from his daughter no matter what. That doesn't seem like something a selfish person would do. Gabi made a lot of mistakes but never deliberately set out to hurt anybody and she was a victim in all this. Everybody wanted Nick dead , it's just sad she's the one who has to pay by leaving behind a small child to grow up without her mother.
My problem with Gabi has been that the words were always there, but the actions were not. She always said she did not want to keep Will from Ari, but Nick would come behind her and put into play actions to keep Will from Ari and she would go along. She always went along to please and/or keep Nick which was selfish when she was claiming Will was her best friend. I do think it is tragic that once her eyes were opened she could not see a way out, and now she will be without Ari and Ari will be without her.
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