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Wednesday, June 4th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 3 2014, 11:26 PM (22,605 Views)
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Jun 4 2014, 08:20 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 07:50 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 07:31 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 07:05 PM

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The first time I heard of W.Salem I seem to recall was Rafe saying he and Jordan would drive there so see her.I got the impression that she was only a short distance away so I wondered why we never saw her but I could be wrong.
I do vaguely recall that conversation between Rafe and Jordan. My recollection is that Jordan was surprised that Rafe grew up so close to Salem and that they would drive over there sometime to see where he used to live...not to see his mother there.

I'm trying to recall now whether the mysterious car accident that involved Rafe's sister Ariannna and that killed his fiancée was supposed to have occurred in West Salem. If so, that could be the reason the family moved away.

But again...I'm not totally sure. I know lots of other posters do say that Rafe's mother still lives in West Salem. I just have never thought so.
My understanding was that their mother went to live with a distant Aunt when her health began to fail. This was brought up when a young Gabi came to Salem to be in the care of her older brother and sister. Rafe traveled to see his mother for Arianna's funeral. That was held out of town so his mother can't still reside in West Salem. The person he spoke to on the phone after talking to his mom might have been the Aunt. I'm sure the reason Rafe called his mom instead of seeing her was because he wants to be right on hand with Gabi at this important time.

Rafe talked about showing Jordan his old stomping ground in West Salem. He never said his family still lived there. The time he mentioned taking Jordan to meet his mom with Gabi and the baby sounded as if it would be a trip.


I remember something about Gabi's high school graduation, and her mother planning to make the trip to come -- but then at last minute, her mother was sick or injured and it would bet too difficult to travel? This is a vague memory, so I might be wrong.
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marie1969
Jun 4 2014, 07:55 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 04:39 PM
Did anyone else think it was sweet of Aiden to contact Gabi & offer to represent her? He was her family court lawyer & they had only met once, plus the custody suit was basically dropped, so it's not like he had some sort of obligation to her.
Did he say it was pro bono? If not. it is pretty self-serving. Aren't lawyers always offering their service to new clients for big hefty retainer fee? It is just business.
Aiden is likely aware of her financial situation since he was representing her in the custody matter.He does not seem like the type of attorney to offer his services then back out because he does not feel he will be paid enough.
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LuvingLumi
Jun 4 2014, 11:18 AM
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Jun 4 2014, 11:03 AM
Jordan tells Ben that he owns a gun and he was furious at the way Nick treated Abigail. Ben says you think I'm no better than "him".

Hmmm....

So Ben is asking Jordan if she thinks that he's no better than Nick?

Oh, oh....did Ben develop some kind of stalkerish crush on someone and something happened and Jordan have to cover the crime to protect her brother?
I am wondering if "him" is their father. Maybe their father was abusing Jordan sexually and Ben shot him or threatened to.
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

Gabi will be missed :tears:
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Does anybody know where I can find a screencap of Aiden holding Hope especially the one of her leaning on him. Love that scene and want a banner of it.
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Jun 4 2014, 09:29 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 07:55 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 04:39 PM
Did anyone else think it was sweet of Aiden to contact Gabi & offer to represent her? He was her family court lawyer & they had only met once, plus the custody suit was basically dropped, so it's not like he had some sort of obligation to her.
Did he say it was pro bono? If not. it is pretty self-serving. Aren't lawyers always offering their service to new clients for big hefty retainer fee? It is just business.
Aiden is likely aware of her financial situation since he was representing her in the custody matter.He does not seem like the type of attorney to offer his services then back out because he does not feel he will be paid enough.

Edit:Sorry.I see Supergirl already addressed this issue.
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rknudson78
Jun 4 2014, 09:34 PM
Does anybody know where I can find a screencap of Aiden holding Hope especially the one of her leaning on him. Love that scene and want a banner of it.
Supergirl has one on page(8) of this thread.
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Rosebud
Jun 4 2014, 12:32 PM
Ok, I really didn't need to look up Hope's nostrils for 15 seconds!
Or her throat
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jam6242
Jun 4 2014, 12:11 PM
I'm glad Sonny is remorseful for bringing the gun to the apartment.
Yes. If only he had not brought that gun home this could have been avoided.
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kay
Jun 4 2014, 09:46 PM
Rosebud
Jun 4 2014, 12:32 PM
Ok, I really didn't need to look up Hope's nostrils for 15 seconds!
Or her throat
Her Adam's Apple was making me squeamish!!
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Jun 4 2014, 03:00 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:48 PM
so... about all of those people claiming Gabi was trying to ruin Will & Sonny's happiness for her own selfishness...
To be fair, the show completely changed Gabi's motivation. For months she was fighting with everyone and reaching out to Nick. She didn't look like someone who was afraid of Nick. She slapped Sami, picked a fight (twice) with Sonny on not inviting Nick; she told everyone that she trusts Nick and without him she wouldn't have got her dream job; she told Will and Sonny they need to get used to seeing Nick, if they want her and Arianna to still live with them and let's not forget Gabi telling Nick to take care of Sami. There was no indication that she didn't believe/mean any of that. The only time she showed fear and disagreement was when they met with Aidan and after Nick forced her to set a court date.
Even at the WilSon wedding she got in Sonny's face about his comment on the phone about "taking care of Nick" - but he was not referring to Nick Fallon.

I think she changed her tune after overhearing Nick tell Sonny (outside of Club TBD) that If Gabi did not do what he wanted that she would go to prison. That and finding out Nick was blackmailing Abigail too. She knew she had to get away from him before it was too late.
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Jun 4 2014, 09:31 PM
Gabi will be missed :tears:
I won't miss her. *two thumbs down inserted here* Gabi is my least favorite character who is still on the show. Although with the way Brady has been acting for months on end he comes as a close second to my least favorite
Edited by DaysAddiction, Jun 4 2014, 10:08 PM.
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Jun 4 2014, 12:37 PM
GW's Will doesn't have the same friendship chemistry with Gabi that CM's did, but I'm still going to miss their bond.
I think CM had a crush on CB and that came through in their scenes together.
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kay
Jun 4 2014, 09:47 PM
jam6242
Jun 4 2014, 12:11 PM
I'm glad Sonny is remorseful for bringing the gun to the apartment.
Yes. If only he had not brought that gun home this could have been avoided.
I'm very glad that Sonny is remorseful as well, it definitely fits his character. I still don't think that Sonny should hold any blame for Nick's murder. He didn't put the gun in Gabi's hand and make her pull the trigger but him not returning the gun right away definitely aided in her actions.
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Thanks for letting me know. I saved it. Remember you all Aiden/Hope fans there is a message board for them just look in the links thread.
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kay
Jun 4 2014, 10:05 PM
six
Jun 4 2014, 12:37 PM
GW's Will doesn't have the same friendship chemistry with Gabi that CM's did, but I'm still going to miss their bond.
I think CM had a crush on CB and that came through in their scenes together.
I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case. I always felt like there was a weird vibe between CB and CM during their scenes. Whenever it was CB, CM and FS in a scene together I would sometimes want to remind CM's Will that he should be showing desire towards Sonny not Gabi. That's what sometimes threw WilSon's scenes off with him. I also thought that CM's Will wasn't all that comfortable with the love scenes with FS and tried in subtle ways to distance himself during them. CM got a little better as time went on but I never really bought that CM's Will was completely attracted to Sonny 100% of the time. With GW's Will, I don't doubt the attraction between them at all.
Edited by sillibella, Jun 4 2014, 10:15 PM.
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Jun 4 2014, 09:18 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 06:57 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 06:23 PM
While I can understand Rafe accepting Gabi's decision to accept responsibility for her wrongdoing,I still don't understand why he did not try to talk her into having an attorney other than EJ given that he was upset that she felt her best alternative was to kill Nick rather than turn to him.An attorney looks out for the best interests of his client.I did not like Gabi say she trusts EJ after he basically talked her out of mentioning Rivergate which would provide mitigation affecting the charge/sentence in her case.I'm happy that Marlena will know that Gabi is keeping quiet about Nick,Sami and Kate's behavior at the river which could affect the charge/sentence and that Sami is allowing Gabi to do so to save her own ass.I wonder how Aiden left the message.Gabi would not likely have access to her phone since she is under arrest for murder.Rafe did not mention the offer so it is not likely the message was left on his phone.Even though Nick was her cousin,I wish that Hope would suggest that Aiden contact Gabi personally to offer his services given that she does not trust EJ.
Rafe should have been written as having gone to W.Salem off screen to tell his mother in person that Gabi had been arrested for murder
then having the conversation with Jordan about that experience.How far can W.Salem possibly be from Salem?
You are twisting what happened LOL. Ej NEVER talked Gabi out of mentioning Rivergate. All he did was ask her if she intended to confess about Rivergate as well and she told him that she would not implicate the people who helped her. There was no persuasion or pressure from Ej. If I am mistaken about that, please show me a clip of that particular scene and I will stand corrected.

I do agree that Rafe could have insisted on getting Gabi another attorney. I know Gabi is an adult, but I was surprised how quickly he accepted her fate. He seemed so completely defeated without putting much of a fight. It is like he knows there is not much he can do to help her. it is too late. I think everyone has pretty much accepted that Gabi is done for. Ironically, the only person who is urging Gabi to put up a fight is Ej.

I hope someone can clarify this for me. I was a little confused that Rafe was implying that Sami was behind Gabi's problem. He even said that Gabi should not trust Ej because of Sami. he seemed to think that ej was involved because he was doing Sami's bidding. it seemed odd because i expect him to mistrust ej because of their history, not because of sami with whom he has a good relationship. Unless he knows about rivergate, I don't understand why he would think that sami was behind his sister's predicament. if he knows about rivergate, why is he blaming just sami and not Kate? he even said that marlena could not be trusted either because she is sami's mother. That scene did not make sense to me.
I posted that he basically talked her out of mentioning Rivergate.I could have been more precise and posted that he did not encourage her to provide mitigating information to the police.During the Monday episode EJ said they could fight the charge on the basis of Gabi being afraid of what Nick would do to her ,she pointed out if she did so,she would risking sending him,Will,Sonny,and Sami to jail.Once she said that EJ let it go.In fact when the DA asked Gabi how Nick would be able to send her to prison,EJ interupted saying he was advising his client to stop but once Gabi started talking about Andrew,he sat back and shut up.With Nick's past prison record and history with Melanie,any unbiased ethical attorney who knew of Rivergate would have told Gabi that revealing that Nick manipulation of the NY modeling contract,physical attack on her when she told him she was turning down that offer,and subsequent blackmail would make it less likely that she would be charged with first degree murder,
could result in a manslaughter charge,and considerably lessen the time she would likely spend in prison away from her daughter.EJ did not of this.If Aiden had been her attorney,he would likely actively encouraged Gabi to present the best defense to the charge so that she would not be away from her daughter any longer than necessary.

Supergirl while I was watching the 6-2-14 episode on the NBC website,Sami's shoes were clearly shown at the 8:19 mark.They are a wonder to behold,truly grotesque.If you have the time,can you please go to the site and screen cap Sami 's shoes.Its when she enters the room at the police station to talk to Will,Sonny,and Lucas.
If she were to mention rivergate, how would that help her? she has no proof or evidence that Nick tried to rape her. All the evidence were destroyed. She could claim that Nick tried to rape her, but there are no witnesses except the ones who saw the argument at the square where she threatened Nick. She never reported the attempted rape and put it on record. Rapes in general are very hard to prove. But in Gabi's case, it is next to impossible after all those months.

If I were Kami and Gabi threw me under the bus, I would deny deny deny. In fact, I would turn on her so fast she would not know what hit her. Granted Hope can place Sami by the river. But Sami can say that she came in after Gabi assaulted Nick and she was going to the police, but Gabi forced her to keep quiet as she threatened to take off with Ari. So she kept her mouth shut to protect Ari from her crazy mother. Then Gabi will say that Kami helped her drag the body into the river. Knowing Kami, they will deny it and Gabi can not prove that they ever threw Nick in the river. There is no proof, no evidence to support any of it thanks to Ej's cleaners LOL. No witnesses since ej made sure Mr. greeting is gone forever and Nick is dead. it is Gabi's word against Kami's. I don't see the DA taking the word of a confessed killer against the word of 2 powerful executives with strong connection to the community, no apparent strong motive.

If she brings up rivergate, I can assure you that it will make it worst for her because it will show prior intent as she tried to kill before and failed. so she just finished what she started before by shooting him dead. It is not what you know, it is what you can prove.
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Jun 4 2014, 04:53 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 03:03 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:58 PM
so our big cliffhanger before the long weekend is Abby & Gabi face to face? mmkay
Well considering her part in the Daysaster, I think that's a pretty big one... I mean it coming out has been two years in the making.
I don't think Abby's and Gabi's conversation will be about Melanie's kidnapping or the Daysaster since Gabi had nothing to do with it. Andrew is the one who caused the explosion not Gabi. Gabi's confession about her part in hiring Andrew to stalk her has not been made public knowledge as far as I've seen so Abby 's confrontation with her friend should be about Nick's shooting.
I think it WILL be about her hiring Andrew. And Abigail may tell Will about it and that Sonny has known about it since Dec. 2012 (Chad told him in confidence) and he kept it from Will all this time.
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I can picture how infuriated Abigail will be when Gabi tells her about what she did to Melanie. In fact I can picture it in my head right now and Will won't be happy about it either.
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Jun 4 2014, 09:29 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 07:55 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 04:39 PM
Did anyone else think it was sweet of Aiden to contact Gabi & offer to represent her? He was her family court lawyer & they had only met once, plus the custody suit was basically dropped, so it's not like he had some sort of obligation to her.
Did he say it was pro bono? If not. it is pretty self-serving. Aren't lawyers always offering their service to new clients for big hefty retainer fee? It is just business.
Aiden is likely aware of her financial situation since he was representing her in the custody matter.He does not seem like the type of attorney to offer his services then back out because he does not feel he will be paid enough.


I thought all attorneys expected payments except for public defendants. Even before, an attorney takes your case, you have to pay a retainer fee. So unless, he specified pro bono, I am going to assume that he expected payment. Assuming he would do it free is just fanwanking IMO
Nothing against Aiden, it is just how it works LOL.

But he seems like a nice guy, it is possible he would have represented Gabi and make some kind of payment arrangement with her family such as a monthly schedule payment type of things. There I tried.
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