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Wednesday, June 4th Daily Discussion
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Jun 4 2014, 11:18 PM

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I don't understand what confuses you,what it is that you do not understand.
Who cares if they were at the park at the same time? They didn't kill Nick so I'm really not understanding what you're trying to convey. Can you please explain it to me?
I was responding to Marie's post indicating that Gabi would have no proof,if she gave a truthful account of what happened in the park and at the river since she has no witnesses to what happened now that Percy is gone or physical evidence since the photographs are gone and the cleaners scrubbed the crime scene.There is no direct evidence to support her version of events but there is some circumstantial evidence to support her statement if Gabi chose to tell the police what happened at the river to explain why she was afraid that Nick would physically harm her.That along with his conviction for killing a man and his kidnapping of Melanie could likely get Gabi a reduced charge and/or reduced sentence as mitigating factors in her shooting him.
I'm sorry but I don't think Gabi should get reduced chargers for killing someone. Yes he blackmailed her and almost everyone but I still think it's wrong for her to kill him. What she did to Melanie is also wrong. If she was a true friend she wouldn't have done that. She chose to hire a stalker. She didn't know he would go crazy on her but if she hadn't hired a stalker none of that would have happened. She chose to do other things to try and get Chad away from Melanie. Those were choices she made. She didn't have to make those choices. That's just my opinion. You're entitled to disagree
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Haiden's post-breakdown chat:
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BeeBee
Jun 4 2014, 06:23 PM
While I can understand Rafe accepting Gabi's decision to accept responsibility for her wrongdoing,I still don't understand why he did not try to talk her into having an attorney other than EJ given that he was upset that she felt her best alternative was to kill Nick rather than turn to him.An attorney looks out for the best interests of his client.I did not like Gabi say she trusts EJ after he basically talked her out of mentioning Rivergate which would provide mitigation affecting the charge/sentence in her case.I'm happy that Marlena will know that Gabi is keeping quiet about Nick,Sami and Kate's behavior at the river which could affect the charge/sentence and that Sami is allowing Gabi to do so to save her own ass.I wonder how Aiden left the message.Gabi would not likely have access to her phone since she is under arrest for murder.Rafe did not mention the offer so it is not likely the message was left on his phone.Even though Nick was her cousin,I wish that Hope would suggest that Aiden contact Gabi personally to offer his services given that she does not trust EJ.
As I and others have pointed out over the past few days, mentioning the river incident could do more harm than good, since that could be spun as Gabi's "first attempt" to kill Nick. Any halfway decent prosecutor would say, "So, what you're telling me is that you tried to kill Nick Fallon once before, but when that failed, you decided to put three bullets in him to be absolutely sure that you wouldn't fail a second time." Yes, we know that isn't true, but that doesn't really matter. The story she told the police is enough to cast her in a sympathetic light and get her a lenient sentence -- she doesn't need to reveal the river incident to help her cause. The only thing that really adds to the story is the rape -- as it is, she has just alluded to things getting "physical" but hasn't specified that sexual assault was involved. And since she never reported the rape, it would be very easy for a prosecutor to argue against it.

Gabi had access to her cell phone during Monday's episode, at the very least. She was looking at a picture of Arianna on her cell phone right before she gave her official statement to the police and district attorney. She is still being allowed visitors and is still in the same clothes, so I doubt that her possessions have been confiscated at this time.
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Jun 4 2014, 07:21 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 11:50 AM
Bev makes a mysterious call and says I can't wait to see you and tell you about the new and improved JJ.

Meanwhile, Paige and JJ arrive at Sonny's and introductions to Ben happen.

Gabi tells Will that Ari likes her feet being rubbed if she can't sleep. Will says we'll talk about you all the time. Gabi says that EJ says Ari will be able to visit and videos and emails will be allowed. Will says we'll send them every day. She cries and says she won't be able to explain to Ari because she's too young and that she's grateful Ari has Will. They hug.

Rafe is telling Mama Hernandez what happened. He tells an Aunt that he wishes he could tell his mother everything will be be okay but he can't. Rafe hangs up and calls that brutal. Jordan says you did everything you could to help Gabi. Rafe says he didn't come close.
While Gabi will have visiting privileges with friends and family,EJ is obviously not familiar with prison life if he thinks Gabi will have access to e-mail and opportunity to receive and view family videos.
Some prisoners are indeed allowed access to such things, and if her plea bargain stipulates that she gets access to such things, then she'll get access to such things. All communications will be monitored and she won't have any expectation of privacy in any correspondence that she sends or receives, as E.J. said, but she'll still be allowed to access emails and view attachments.
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Jun 4 2014, 11:33 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 11:18 PM

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I don't understand what confuses you,what it is that you do not understand.
Who cares if they were at the park at the same time? They didn't kill Nick so I'm really not understanding what you're trying to convey. Can you please explain it to me?
I was responding to Marie's post indicating that Gabi would have no proof,if she gave a truthful account of what happened in the park and at the river since she has no witnesses to what happened now that Percy is gone or physical evidence since the photographs are gone and the cleaners scrubbed the crime scene.There is no direct evidence to support her version of events but there is some circumstantial evidence to support her statement if Gabi chose to tell the police what happened at the river to explain why she was afraid that Nick would physically harm her.That along with his conviction for killing a man and his kidnapping of Melanie could likely get Gabi a reduced charge and/or reduced sentence as mitigating factors in her shooting him.
I have to admit part of me wanted her to try and sell Kate/Sami down the river only to have both of them look at her and say, "I have NO clue what she's talking about . .. at all." (Since there's zero proof.) :blulaugh:
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Jun 4 2014, 11:49 PM
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When Nick and Gabi were planning to get married, the night of his bachelor party Gabi wanted to call her mother to tell her about the wedding but Rafe told her that mama was very ill and would be too frail to take the news. I believe Gabi finally did talk to her mother on the day of the wedding (January 2013) but then of course the wedding was interrupted by Chad about the real paternity of the baby she was carrying.

I also think RAFE still blames Sami for that situation and how she was so mean to Gabi. Also with how she was so mean to Gabi in February 2013 regarding the paternity test etc.
Gabi deserves the way Sami treats her. She is a terrible person
And Sami is a perfect example of what it means to live life as a perfect, unselfish person? :rolleyes:

Sami has no right to judge Gabi or anybody else for that matter. Gabi has never committed a crime that Sami has never committed herself.
I don't like Gabi and I have the right to not like her. I don't even like CB as an actress. At least Alison Sweeney plays her character well.
Edited by DaysAddiction, Jun 5 2014, 01:45 AM.
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Jun 4 2014, 11:40 AM
Aiden asks if Hope feels like talking. She tries but can barely get words out and starts to cry. He holds her.
I know Supergirl is going to gif this but I just wanted to confirm that I want it...lol
Aw dammit! LOL
I don't discriminate on who gifs, the more Haiden gifs the better
Nah, it's not that. I was planning on GIFing that scene for my avi but eh, whatever. LOL I'll just use another Haiden scene. ^_^
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Jun 4 2014, 10:14 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 10:05 PM
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Jun 4 2014, 12:37 PM
GW's Will doesn't have the same friendship chemistry with Gabi that CM's did, but I'm still going to miss their bond.
I think CM had a crush on CB and that came through in their scenes together.
I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case. I always felt like there was a weird vibe between CB and CM during their scenes. Whenever it was CB, CM and FS in a scene together I would sometimes want to remind CM's Will that he should be showing desire towards Sonny not Gabi. That's what sometimes threw WilSon's scenes off with him. I also thought that CM's Will wasn't all that comfortable with the love scenes with FS and tried in subtle ways to distance himself during them. CM got a little better as time went on but I never really bought that CM's Will was completely attracted to Sonny 100% of the time. With GW's Will, I don't doubt the attraction between them at all.
This point is exactly why CM became so unappealing to me at the end, it was so clear he did not want to play a gay person, but the thing is he should have made those decision much earlier. I also didn't like that while he was like that he still got media and awards for having a "groundbreaking gay role" which he didn't really even have. GW plays the affections so much mroe believably and deserves much much more for that.
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Jun 4 2014, 11:33 PM

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Who cares if they were at the park at the same time? They didn't kill Nick so I'm really not understanding what you're trying to convey. Can you please explain it to me?
I was responding to Marie's post indicating that Gabi would have no proof,if she gave a truthful account of what happened in the park and at the river since she has no witnesses to what happened now that Percy is gone or physical evidence since the photographs are gone and the cleaners scrubbed the crime scene.There is no direct evidence to support her version of events but there is some circumstantial evidence to support her statement if Gabi chose to tell the police what happened at the river to explain why she was afraid that Nick would physically harm her.That along with his conviction for killing a man and his kidnapping of Melanie could likely get Gabi a reduced charge and/or reduced sentence as mitigating factors in her shooting him.
I'm sorry but I don't think Gabi should get reduced chargers for killing someone. Yes he blackmailed her and almost everyone but I still think it's wrong for her to kill him. What she did to Melanie is also wrong. If she was a true friend she wouldn't have done that. She chose to hire a stalker. She didn't know he would go crazy on her but if she hadn't hired a stalker none of that would have happened. She chose to do other things to try and get Chad away from Melanie. Those were choices she made. She didn't have to make those choices. That's just my opinion. You're entitled to disagree
I loved what Gabi said yesterday and THANK YOU writers for finally getting something right!! "He may have been horrible to me but I had no right to kill him" AMEN!
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Jun 4 2014, 11:33 PM

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Who cares if they were at the park at the same time? They didn't kill Nick so I'm really not understanding what you're trying to convey. Can you please explain it to me?
I was responding to Marie's post indicating that Gabi would have no proof,if she gave a truthful account of what happened in the park and at the river since she has no witnesses to what happened now that Percy is gone or physical evidence since the photographs are gone and the cleaners scrubbed the crime scene.There is no direct evidence to support her version of events but there is some circumstantial evidence to support her statement if Gabi chose to tell the police what happened at the river to explain why she was afraid that Nick would physically harm her.That along with his conviction for killing a man and his kidnapping of Melanie could likely get Gabi a reduced charge and/or reduced sentence as mitigating factors in her shooting him.
I'm sorry but I don't think Gabi should get reduced chargers for killing someone. Yes he blackmailed her and almost everyone but I still think it's wrong for her to kill him. What she did to Melanie is also wrong. If she was a true friend she wouldn't have done that. She chose to hire a stalker. She didn't know he would go crazy on her but if she hadn't hired a stalker none of that would have happened. She chose to do other things to try and get Chad away from Melanie. Those were choices she made. She didn't have to make those choices. That's just my opinion. You're entitled to disagree
The law in every state recognizes that circumstances in killings matter. Sami and EJ and the hitman would be up a creek for a capital, 1st degree murder charge. However, someone who is in a domestic abuse situation like Gabi was who kills that person would be treated very different from them pretty much everywhere. The fact that Nick blackmailed her and controlled and abused and assaulted would be taken into account. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be punished nor does it mean she had a right to do it, but she would certainly be in a position to negotiate a favorable deal.

It's even true that many states have a crime of passion defense that means a person with no history of violence who kills a cheating spouse in anger (or similar circumstances) are treated differently than someone with a history of violence towards the person, male or female. The law doesn't say that a crime of passion is okay, but they recognize that person might be less of a danger to society than someone who kills for profit or is regularly violent.

So, Gabi would certainly have a right to defend herself and negotiate whatever deal she could get.

A friend of mine was involved in the Clara Harris case in Houston. Harris was a dentist who ran over her louse of a husband with her car, and then turned around for another pass. He died. That was always second degree, since it was unplanned. But my friend says that even the prosecutors recognized that her husband was so awful to her that they were going to have a serious problem with convicting her. She was convicted in a jury trial, but the prosecution went for lessor charges precisely because of the crime of passion elements and the emotional abuse. And even in hang'em high Texas, most people felt she was treated fairly.
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I was responding to Marie's post indicating that Gabi would have no proof,if she gave a truthful account of what happened in the park and at the river since she has no witnesses to what happened now that Percy is gone or physical evidence since the photographs are gone and the cleaners scrubbed the crime scene.There is no direct evidence to support her version of events but there is some circumstantial evidence to support her statement if Gabi chose to tell the police what happened at the river to explain why she was afraid that Nick would physically harm her.That along with his conviction for killing a man and his kidnapping of Melanie could likely get Gabi a reduced charge and/or reduced sentence as mitigating factors in her shooting him.
I'm sorry but I don't think Gabi should get reduced chargers for killing someone. Yes he blackmailed her and almost everyone but I still think it's wrong for her to kill him. What she did to Melanie is also wrong. If she was a true friend she wouldn't have done that. She chose to hire a stalker. She didn't know he would go crazy on her but if she hadn't hired a stalker none of that would have happened. She chose to do other things to try and get Chad away from Melanie. Those were choices she made. She didn't have to make those choices. That's just my opinion. You're entitled to disagree
I loved what Gabi said yesterday and THANK YOU writers for finally getting something right!! "He may have been horrible to me but I had no right to kill him" AMEN!
This week I have actually been able to relate to her. She is reasonable whereas before she just pissed me off in all the other episodes.
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Jun 5 2014, 10:37 AM
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I was responding to Marie's post indicating that Gabi would have no proof,if she gave a truthful account of what happened in the park and at the river since she has no witnesses to what happened now that Percy is gone or physical evidence since the photographs are gone and the cleaners scrubbed the crime scene.There is no direct evidence to support her version of events but there is some circumstantial evidence to support her statement if Gabi chose to tell the police what happened at the river to explain why she was afraid that Nick would physically harm her.That along with his conviction for killing a man and his kidnapping of Melanie could likely get Gabi a reduced charge and/or reduced sentence as mitigating factors in her shooting him.
I'm sorry but I don't think Gabi should get reduced chargers for killing someone. Yes he blackmailed her and almost everyone but I still think it's wrong for her to kill him. What she did to Melanie is also wrong. If she was a true friend she wouldn't have done that. She chose to hire a stalker. She didn't know he would go crazy on her but if she hadn't hired a stalker none of that would have happened. She chose to do other things to try and get Chad away from Melanie. Those were choices she made. She didn't have to make those choices. That's just my opinion. You're entitled to disagree
The law in every state recognizes that circumstances in killings matter. Sami and EJ and the hitman would be up a creek for a capital, 1st degree murder charge. However, someone who is in a domestic abuse situation like Gabi was who kills that person would be treated very different from them pretty much everywhere. The fact that Nick blackmailed her and controlled and abused and assaulted would be taken into account. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be punished nor does it mean she had a right to do it, but she would certainly be in a position to negotiate a favorable deal.

It's even true that many states have a crime of passion defense that means a person with no history of violence who kills a cheating spouse in anger (or similar circumstances) are treated differently than someone with a history of violence towards the person, male or female. The law doesn't say that a crime of passion is okay, but they recognize that person might be less of a danger to society than someone who kills for profit or is regularly violent.

So, Gabi would certainly have a right to defend herself and negotiate whatever deal she could get.

A friend of mine was involved in the Clara Harris case in Houston. Harris was a dentist who ran over her louse of a husband with her car, and then turned around for another pass. He died. That was always second degree, since it was unplanned. But my friend says that even the prosecutors recognized that her husband was so awful to her that they were going to have a serious problem with convicting her. She was convicted in a jury trial, but the prosecution went for lessor charges precisely because of the crime of passion elements and the emotional abuse. And even in hang'em high Texas, most people felt she was treated fairly.
I haven't liked Gabi since the very first episode I watched. It wasn't just that she killed Nick. I remember the first episode I watched she purposely broke Melanie's vase to catch Chad's attention and I haven't liked her ever since. Everything she did to Melanie just pissed me off and she got into arguments with people way too often.
Edited by DaysAddiction, Jun 5 2014, 02:06 PM.
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Lol. Another midol product placement. :blulaugh:
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Gabi deserves the way Sami treats her. She is a terrible person
And Sami is a perfect example of what it means to live life as a perfect, unselfish person? :rolleyes:

Sami has no right to judge Gabi or anybody else for that matter. Gabi has never committed a crime that Sami has never committed herself.
I don't like Gabi and I have the right to not like her. I don't even like CB as an actress. At least Alison Sweeney plays her character well.
CB can act circles around Sweeny. I can't wait for Sami to get what she deserves. No tears will be shed here. Gabi on the other hand will be sadly missed.
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I'm sorry but I don't think Gabi should get reduced chargers for killing someone. Yes he blackmailed her and almost everyone but I still think it's wrong for her to kill him. What she did to Melanie is also wrong. If she was a true friend she wouldn't have done that. She chose to hire a stalker. She didn't know he would go crazy on her but if she hadn't hired a stalker none of that would have happened. She chose to do other things to try and get Chad away from Melanie. Those were choices she made. She didn't have to make those choices. That's just my opinion. You're entitled to disagree
The law in every state recognizes that circumstances in killings matter. Sami and EJ and the hitman would be up a creek for a capital, 1st degree murder charge. However, someone who is in a domestic abuse situation like Gabi was who kills that person would be treated very different from them pretty much everywhere. The fact that Nick blackmailed her and controlled and abused and assaulted would be taken into account. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be punished nor does it mean she had a right to do it, but she would certainly be in a position to negotiate a favorable deal.

It's even true that many states have a crime of passion defense that means a person with no history of violence who kills a cheating spouse in anger (or similar circumstances) are treated differently than someone with a history of violence towards the person, male or female. The law doesn't say that a crime of passion is okay, but they recognize that person might be less of a danger to society than someone who kills for profit or is regularly violent.

So, Gabi would certainly have a right to defend herself and negotiate whatever deal she could get.

A friend of mine was involved in the Clara Harris case in Houston. Harris was a dentist who ran over her louse of a husband with her car, and then turned around for another pass. He died. That was always second degree, since it was unplanned. But my friend says that even the prosecutors recognized that her husband was so awful to her that they were going to have a serious problem with convicting her. She was convicted in a jury trial, but the prosecution went for lessor charges precisely because of the crime of passion elements and the emotional abuse. And even in hang'em high Texas, most people felt she was treated fairly.
I haven't liked Gabi since the very first episode I watched. It wasn't just that she killed Nick. I remember the first episode I watched she purposely broke Melanie's vase to catch Chad's attention and I haven't liked her ever since. Everything she did to Melanie just pissed me off and she got into arguments with people way too often.
Gabriella did nothing to Mel Mel, Andrew did. Gabi hired Andrew to stalk her, not Melanie.
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I was responding to Marie's post indicating that Gabi would have no proof,if she gave a truthful account of what happened in the park and at the river since she has no witnesses to what happened now that Percy is gone or physical evidence since the photographs are gone and the cleaners scrubbed the crime scene.There is no direct evidence to support her version of events but there is some circumstantial evidence to support her statement if Gabi chose to tell the police what happened at the river to explain why she was afraid that Nick would physically harm her.That along with his conviction for killing a man and his kidnapping of Melanie could likely get Gabi a reduced charge and/or reduced sentence as mitigating factors in her shooting him.
I'm sorry but I don't think Gabi should get reduced chargers for killing someone. Yes he blackmailed her and almost everyone but I still think it's wrong for her to kill him. What she did to Melanie is also wrong. If she was a true friend she wouldn't have done that. She chose to hire a stalker. She didn't know he would go crazy on her but if she hadn't hired a stalker none of that would have happened. She chose to do other things to try and get Chad away from Melanie. Those were choices she made. She didn't have to make those choices. That's just my opinion. You're entitled to disagree
The law in every state recognizes that circumstances in killings matter. Sami and EJ and the hitman would be up a creek for a capital, 1st degree murder charge. However, someone who is in a domestic abuse situation like Gabi was who kills that person would be treated very different from them pretty much everywhere. The fact that Nick blackmailed her and controlled and abused and assaulted would be taken into account. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be punished nor does it mean she had a right to do it, but she would certainly be in a position to negotiate a favorable deal.

It's even true that many states have a crime of passion defense that means a person with no history of violence who kills a cheating spouse in anger (or similar circumstances) are treated differently than someone with a history of violence towards the person, male or female. The law doesn't say that a crime of passion is okay, but they recognize that person might be less of a danger to society than someone who kills for profit or is regularly violent.

So, Gabi would certainly have a right to defend herself and negotiate whatever deal she could get.

A friend of mine was involved in the Clara Harris case in Houston. Harris was a dentist who ran over her louse of a husband with her car, and then turned around for another pass. He died. That was always second degree, since it was unplanned. But my friend says that even the prosecutors recognized that her husband was so awful to her that they were going to have a serious problem with convicting her. She was convicted in a jury trial, but the prosecution went for lessor charges precisely because of the crime of passion elements and the emotional abuse. And even in hang'em high Texas, most people felt she was treated fairly.
Haha, I heard Kristin Chenoweth talking about that case on Leno, the Snapped episode of it. I didn't read up, but I always figured Texas... she'll get life or something. Emotional duress is a real thing, and it affects your brain.

I feel like Gabi will be going to some sort of facility to serve time, but I doubt she'll get a harsh sentence - they'll wanna keep their options open. If they don't bring her back, they just won't mention her, and then they can always fib with time etc if they wanna bring her back soonish.
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The law in every state recognizes that circumstances in killings matter. Sami and EJ and the hitman would be up a creek for a capital, 1st degree murder charge. However, someone who is in a domestic abuse situation like Gabi was who kills that person would be treated very different from them pretty much everywhere. The fact that Nick blackmailed her and controlled and abused and assaulted would be taken into account. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be punished nor does it mean she had a right to do it, but she would certainly be in a position to negotiate a favorable deal.

It's even true that many states have a crime of passion defense that means a person with no history of violence who kills a cheating spouse in anger (or similar circumstances) are treated differently than someone with a history of violence towards the person, male or female. The law doesn't say that a crime of passion is okay, but they recognize that person might be less of a danger to society than someone who kills for profit or is regularly violent.

So, Gabi would certainly have a right to defend herself and negotiate whatever deal she could get.

A friend of mine was involved in the Clara Harris case in Houston. Harris was a dentist who ran over her louse of a husband with her car, and then turned around for another pass. He died. That was always second degree, since it was unplanned. But my friend says that even the prosecutors recognized that her husband was so awful to her that they were going to have a serious problem with convicting her. She was convicted in a jury trial, but the prosecution went for lessor charges precisely because of the crime of passion elements and the emotional abuse. And even in hang'em high Texas, most people felt she was treated fairly.
I haven't liked Gabi since the very first episode I watched. It wasn't just that she killed Nick. I remember the first episode I watched she purposely broke Melanie's vase to catch Chad's attention and I haven't liked her ever since. Everything she did to Melanie just pissed me off and she got into arguments with people way too often.
Gabriella did nothing to Mel Mel, Andrew did. Gabi hired Andrew to stalk her, not Melanie.
It's interesting that you think Will and Sonny bare some guilt over the river incident and Nick's killing. But you think Gabi, who actually hired a stalker for herself and when she realized he was dangerous she continued at every turn to lie and even mislead those who were searching for her friend bares no responsibility. I find that fasinating.
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The law in every state recognizes that circumstances in killings matter. Sami and EJ and the hitman would be up a creek for a capital, 1st degree murder charge. However, someone who is in a domestic abuse situation like Gabi was who kills that person would be treated very different from them pretty much everywhere. The fact that Nick blackmailed her and controlled and abused and assaulted would be taken into account. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be punished nor does it mean she had a right to do it, but she would certainly be in a position to negotiate a favorable deal.

It's even true that many states have a crime of passion defense that means a person with no history of violence who kills a cheating spouse in anger (or similar circumstances) are treated differently than someone with a history of violence towards the person, male or female. The law doesn't say that a crime of passion is okay, but they recognize that person might be less of a danger to society than someone who kills for profit or is regularly violent.

So, Gabi would certainly have a right to defend herself and negotiate whatever deal she could get.

A friend of mine was involved in the Clara Harris case in Houston. Harris was a dentist who ran over her louse of a husband with her car, and then turned around for another pass. He died. That was always second degree, since it was unplanned. But my friend says that even the prosecutors recognized that her husband was so awful to her that they were going to have a serious problem with convicting her. She was convicted in a jury trial, but the prosecution went for lessor charges precisely because of the crime of passion elements and the emotional abuse. And even in hang'em high Texas, most people felt she was treated fairly.
I haven't liked Gabi since the very first episode I watched. It wasn't just that she killed Nick. I remember the first episode I watched she purposely broke Melanie's vase to catch Chad's attention and I haven't liked her ever since. Everything she did to Melanie just pissed me off and she got into arguments with people way too often.
Gabriella did nothing to Mel Mel, Andrew did. Gabi hired Andrew to stalk her, not Melanie.
That makes no sense Kinay. Gabi is totally responsible for what happened to Melanie. I am so fed up with repeating myself. Gabi hired Andrew. If she hasn't hired him none of that other shit would have happened.
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It honestly really boggles my mind that people make excuses for Gabi.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case. I always felt like there was a weird vibe between CB and CM during their scenes. Whenever it was CB, CM and FS in a scene together I would sometimes want to remind CM's Will that he should be showing desire towards Sonny not Gabi. That's what sometimes threw WilSon's scenes off with him. I also thought that CM's Will wasn't all that comfortable with the love scenes with FS and tried in subtle ways to distance himself during them. CM got a little better as time went on but I never really bought that CM's Will was completely attracted to Sonny 100% of the time. With GW's Will, I don't doubt the attraction between them at all.
To totally agree with you. I remember reading an interview with CM where he talked about the love scenes between Will and Sonny and how he (CM) felt "awkward" during those scenes. He also mentioned feeling awkward about kissing another man and how it "lowered his standards" for kissing girls. I think he more interested in the coming out part of Will. But when it came to the actual relationship of Will and Sonny he was not as invested as he should be. That is why I always felt he was uncomfortable in playing those scenes. At least at first. After awhile, he seemed more and more comfortable with the kissing and playful touching (rubbing Sonny's shoulders, hugging, and playing with hid ears (which FS HATED), but the actual love scenes never did seem natural. Guy seems VERY comfortable with these situations with Freddie so the love scenes seem more real to me than they did with CM.
Totally agree. CM had a bit of awkwardness when it came to Will's relationship with Sonny. I'm having a stupid moment here but what did CM mean by it "lowered his standards" for kissing girls?

I mainly chalk CM's issues up to the fact that he's never played a gay role before. He's still young and was only used to kissing females on screen. Kissing scenes can be weird anyway but it was clear from the start, imo, that FS didn't have that awkwardness during WilSon's love scenes. It was all on CM. Of course FS has played a gay man on a TV show in the past so he clearly didn't have any issues with it. GW has played a gay role before Days as well (though I'm not positive that he had any love scenes with men before) but he's also in his late 20's, unlike CM, and is obviously more comfortable with himself and different roles. That's why, imo, so many people have commented positively on the chemistry between FS and GW. They really don't hold back and there isn't any weird smirking or real hesitance. CM was really great and quite realistic during Will's coming out story but I definitely appreciate GW's version of Will more now that Will is married and more grown up. He comes off as being much more secure with himself and his relationship to Sonny.
I am not sure what he meant by that comment.

I agree with your post.
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