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Spoilers for the week of June 16th; *updated 6/14*
Topic Started: Jun 5 2014, 05:53 PM (34,394 Views)
Kaha
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am103
Jun 15 2014, 01:02 AM
daysjahvu
Jun 15 2014, 12:27 AM
am103
Jun 15 2014, 12:23 AM
concerned
Jun 14 2014, 11:00 PM

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What? When did Daniel sleep with a 16 year-old? The only person I can think of is Chelsea, and she definitely wasn't 16 when she was with Daniel.
She was at least 18, but not much older. And did they ever do the deed? I didn't think so. It was still nasty.
I don't think Daniel and Chelsea ever officially had sex, but I still think she was a tad older than 18 when they dated. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason Chelsea couldn't donate part of her pancreas to Bo right away because she got super drunk at the Cheatin' Heart? I'm pretty sure she even had alcohol poisoning. And that was in 2008, so she was at least in her early 20's. I don't give Dr. Dan credit for a lot of things, but a pedophile is something he is not. Lol.
Sleeping with a 16-year old is icky but it wouldn't have made Daniel a pedophile. Pedophilia is a psychological disorder where one has primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. If Daniel slept with Chelsea before she was the age of consent then he would've committed a statutory rape and her father (the cop) would've charged him with statutory rape. Although, Salem laws seem to be different.
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WilSonJAb33
Jun 5 2014, 06:30 PM
james0479
Jun 5 2014, 06:25 PM
I sometimes have the hardest time remembering who works for who on this show. I know the businesses like Mad World, Countess W, Titan, Dimera Enterprises and would love to see more story come from the business ends of these people but because it's so briefly mentioned here and there, I forget who's in what! Lol. Regardless, Kate can or can not work with Victor, their angry scenes make me happy. :)
Titan owns Mad World and Kate basically runs made world but Victor might in fact still have the power to fire Kate since Titan owns it. I am wondering if Kate firing could Victor offer the job to Will that Kate is fired from... that could be issue for a lot of family.
I read a spoiler months ago that Victor was going to offer Nicole a job... I'm waiting! :yawnz:
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Jun 15 2014, 08:26 AM
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Jun 5 2014, 06:30 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 06:25 PM
I sometimes have the hardest time remembering who works for who on this show. I know the businesses like Mad World, Countess W, Titan, Dimera Enterprises and would love to see more story come from the business ends of these people but because it's so briefly mentioned here and there, I forget who's in what! Lol. Regardless, Kate can or can not work with Victor, their angry scenes make me happy. :)
Titan owns Mad World and Kate basically runs made world but Victor might in fact still have the power to fire Kate since Titan owns it. I am wondering if Kate firing could Victor offer the job to Will that Kate is fired from... that could be issue for a lot of family.
I read a spoiler months ago that Victor was going to offer Nicole a job... I'm waiting! :yawnz:
Victor loathes Nicole. Why on earth would he offer her a job? Also, her life is an utter mess right now so I'm confused as to why Victor might think she'd be a good employee for him...
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Jun 15 2014, 08:31 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:26 AM
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Jun 5 2014, 06:30 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 06:25 PM
I sometimes have the hardest time remembering who works for who on this show. I know the businesses like Mad World, Countess W, Titan, Dimera Enterprises and would love to see more story come from the business ends of these people but because it's so briefly mentioned here and there, I forget who's in what! Lol. Regardless, Kate can or can not work with Victor, their angry scenes make me happy. :)
Titan owns Mad World and Kate basically runs made world but Victor might in fact still have the power to fire Kate since Titan owns it. I am wondering if Kate firing could Victor offer the job to Will that Kate is fired from... that could be issue for a lot of family.
I read a spoiler months ago that Victor was going to offer Nicole a job... I'm waiting! :yawnz:
Victor loathes Nicole. Why on earth would he offer her a job? Also, her life is an utter mess right now so I'm confused as to why Victor might think she'd be a good employee for him...
Doesn't she already work for Victor in a way? I find it odd that Nicole is supposedly a reporter yet she didn't even know about a major breaking news (Nick's shooting).
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I think it's safe to say that Kate wouldn't like it.. LOL
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Where was this spoiler that you read about Victor and Nicole?
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sillibella
Jun 15 2014, 08:31 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:26 AM
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Jun 5 2014, 06:30 PM
james0479
Jun 5 2014, 06:25 PM
I sometimes have the hardest time remembering who works for who on this show. I know the businesses like Mad World, Countess W, Titan, Dimera Enterprises and would love to see more story come from the business ends of these people but because it's so briefly mentioned here and there, I forget who's in what! Lol. Regardless, Kate can or can not work with Victor, their angry scenes make me happy. :)
Titan owns Mad World and Kate basically runs made world but Victor might in fact still have the power to fire Kate since Titan owns it. I am wondering if Kate firing could Victor offer the job to Will that Kate is fired from... that could be issue for a lot of family.
I read a spoiler months ago that Victor was going to offer Nicole a job... I'm waiting! :yawnz:
Victor loathes Nicole. Why on earth would he offer her a job? Also, her life is an utter mess right now so I'm confused as to why Victor might think she'd be a good employee for him...
He's got some nerve loathing Nicole after he raped her. But they do say you never forgive those you have wronged.
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Kaha
Jun 15 2014, 08:46 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:31 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:26 AM
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Jun 5 2014, 06:30 PM

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I read a spoiler months ago that Victor was going to offer Nicole a job... I'm waiting! :yawnz:
Victor loathes Nicole. Why on earth would he offer her a job? Also, her life is an utter mess right now so I'm confused as to why Victor might think she'd be a good employee for him...
Doesn't she already work for Victor in a way? I find it odd that Nicole is supposedly a reporter yet she didn't even know about a major breaking news (Nick's shooting).
He offered some job months ago.....just before she went to work as a reporter.
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Jun 15 2014, 09:50 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:46 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:31 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:26 AM

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Victor loathes Nicole. Why on earth would he offer her a job? Also, her life is an utter mess right now so I'm confused as to why Victor might think she'd be a good employee for him...
Doesn't she already work for Victor in a way? I find it odd that Nicole is supposedly a reporter yet she didn't even know about a major breaking news (Nick's shooting).
He offered some job months ago.....just before she went to work as a reporter.
She already works for Victor though. She works at Titan T.V., or am I wrong?
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Kaha
Jun 15 2014, 09:53 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 09:50 AM
Kaha
Jun 15 2014, 08:46 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:31 AM

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Doesn't she already work for Victor in a way? I find it odd that Nicole is supposedly a reporter yet she didn't even know about a major breaking news (Nick's shooting).
He offered some job months ago.....just before she went to work as a reporter.
She already works for Victor though. She works at Titan T.V., or am I wrong?
I'm not sure who owns what, but I remember that Victor and Nicole shared a scene.....I think she picked a fight with him because Kristen was standing by and she wanted to throw her off.....and after Kristen left she sat down and talked to Victor.....I can't remember what it was that he offered her, but I remember it was right before she accepted that other job that she was originally planning on turning down until she had some run in with EJ.......so you know how long ago that was.
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Jun 5 2014, 05:53 PM

Thursday ("Confrontation")
A confrontation occurs at the DiMera mansion;

**Update**

Tuesday, June 17, 2014
Kate’s antenna goes up when she spies Jordan and Ben together.

Wednesday, June 18, 2014
Hope is impressed when Aiden comes up with a way to save the gala.

Thursday, June 19, 2014
Nicole must make an important decision about Eric’s future.
Jennifer takes a trip down memory lane.

Friday, June 20, 2014
Paige is warned to stay away from Theresa.


**Update**



Thursday, June 19
Nicole is forced to come to a resolution regarding Eric's future; Jennifer reminisces on her past experiences.

Friday, June 20
Jennifer is reassured by Hope;
So I've been thinking...look out...I think the confrontation won't be anything mainly because this would have been a SOD article if it were.

And then, why wouldn't Kate just tell Jordan the truth, she would go to Rafe and he couldn't deny it, unless she's trying to protect what's going on between her and Stefano.

Hope and Aiden I love, there I've said it..

The Nicole stuff sounds good about her making a decision about Eric's future... I could even see her trying to get him reinstated.

When it comes to Jen...baby to little to late. In Jen's words... You've made your bed and now you have to lie in it.


Now with that all said I wonder about Eve... and Paige. What if these sisters... Eve & Theresa have been distanced from each other for years. I mean Even was wild wasn't she the one that was slashed on her face?? Isn't she Shane's daughter but now Kim's??? What if Paige doesn't know that Theresa is her aunt because she was raised away from her, and maybe even away from Shane...

Ooh with two Donovans in town couldn't they bring in Shane for a visit.. forget Kim... I will just take Shane on a cracker, on a case, decked out in a suit... all out in spy mood. This is why you know i'ts not Theresa that gets taken even Kristen isn't nuts enough to kidnap the daughter of a ISA spy.
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sillibella
Jun 15 2014, 08:31 AM
Handyman
Jun 15 2014, 08:26 AM
WilSonJAb33
Jun 5 2014, 06:30 PM
james0479
Jun 5 2014, 06:25 PM
I sometimes have the hardest time remembering who works for who on this show. I know the businesses like Mad World, Countess W, Titan, Dimera Enterprises and would love to see more story come from the business ends of these people but because it's so briefly mentioned here and there, I forget who's in what! Lol. Regardless, Kate can or can not work with Victor, their angry scenes make me happy. :)
Titan owns Mad World and Kate basically runs made world but Victor might in fact still have the power to fire Kate since Titan owns it. I am wondering if Kate firing could Victor offer the job to Will that Kate is fired from... that could be issue for a lot of family.
I read a spoiler months ago that Victor was going to offer Nicole a job... I'm waiting! :yawnz:
Victor loathes Nicole. Why on earth would he offer her a job? Also, her life is an utter mess right now so I'm confused as to why Victor might think she'd be a good employee for him...
Four reasons...

First he likes Nicole better than he likes Theresa I could see him trying to get Nicole in Brady's oribt again to try and bring him out of the sucking void of Theresa that he thinks he's caught in.

Second to piss off Kate, Kate hates Nicole.

Thrid to piss off Mad World's competetor.

And lastly to keep an eye on Nicole so she doesn't end up back with Dan. Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
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I think it sucks that Nicole isn't shown in scenes with Rafe anymore!

Nicole visited Rafe in the hospital and confided about never being able to forgive Eric for blaming her for something she didn't do . . . and that was the end of that. It was a really great friendship scene but there was never any follow up. They've completely dropped them and I find that sad. Rafe & Nicole are a lot more charming and cute together than Rafe & Kate could ever be and a whole lot more palatable being there for each other. Their scenes together could add a lot to both of their stories. I'd much rather see heart-to-hearts between Rafe & Nicole over Rafe fucking Kate because that's all they can offer his character. I guess it's dumb on my part to want to see the show building substance and layers to their stories.

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Hamilton
Jun 15 2014, 03:57 PM
I think it sucks that Nicole isn't shown in scenes with Rafe anymore!

Nicole visited Rafe in the hospital and confided about never being able to forgive Eric for blaming her for something she didn't do . . . and that was the end of that. It was a really great friendship scene but there was never any follow up. They've completely dropped them and I find that sad. Rafe & Nicole are a lot more charming and cute together than Rafe & Kate could ever be and a whole lot more palatable being there for each other. Their scenes together could add a lot to both of their stories. I'd much rather see heart-to-hearts between Rafe & Nicole over Rafe fucking Kate because that's all they can offer his character. I guess it's dumb on my part to want to see the show building substance and layers to their stories.

I don't think we even got NIcole's reaction to Rafe sleeping with Kate. And since they are friends, she certainly would have been there for him when Gabi was announced the murderer of Nick. I'd like to see Nicole help Rafe find out about everything that led up to Gabi killing Nick. Oh for Days when Nicole was the first to find out about things and usually used it for blackmail. She's so isolated with this Eric storyline and wasted......in my opinion.
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Jun 15 2014, 07:40 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 06:22 AM
So, going back to my original question, the consensus is that, to everybody's knowledge, Daniel has yet to make any kind of true apology to anyone since showing up in Salem because he has yet to feel as though he has truly wronged somebody? Did he ever apologize to Lucas for his actions? Possibly hash things out with Bo over dating Chelsea when, apparently, Bo wasn't cool with it...? I've only been slightly paying attention to Daniel's storylines since that whole mess with Chloe and I have yet to see him believe that he screwed up with something. No wonder he's so unlikeable....well that and the fact that most of Salem thinks of him as the second coming from time to time. Ugh. :bs:
I forgot about Chelsea and Daniel! How does Jennifer not find it skeevy that her one true love slept with her cousin's stepdaughter/her brother's niece? And then he turned around and slept with her brother's mom! Not to mention his fiancé....

Through Lucas alone Dannifer is gross, haha. Salem relationships are weird.
Given Jack had a flirtation with her mum I guess she's given up on worrying about such things.
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I don't think Nicole is wasted with Eric, but they're both wasted with Dannifer. I get the Daniel/Nicole/Eric friendship because they all went through a lot together trying to clear Eric's name. But when Jen was added to the mix, it felt weird and forced. Jen had clearly never forgiven Nicole, and that was her prerogative, but she shouldn't have pretended to be Nicole's friend if she wasn't.

It would have made a lot more sense for Nicole to be friends with Rafe and get to know Jordan. Probably wouldn't approve (Nicole never seems to approve of any of her guy friends' tastes in women) but at least it would make more sense. Plus, Eric and Rafe have a connection through Sami and the kids, and he and Jordan both work at the hospital, so there was plenty of room for that relationship as well.

I think too many of the storylines are isolated when they don't need to be, but I wonder if that's a function of the way they shoot the show.
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Jun 15 2014, 04:43 PM
I don't think Nicole is wasted with Eric, but they're both wasted with Dannifer. I get the Daniel/Nicole/Eric friendship because they all went through a lot together trying to clear Eric's name. But when Jen was added to the mix, it felt weird and forced. Jen had clearly never forgiven Nicole, and that was her prerogative, but she shouldn't have pretended to be Nicole's friend if she wasn't.

It would have made a lot more sense for Nicole to be friends with Rafe and get to know Jordan. Probably wouldn't approve (Nicole never seems to approve of any of her guy friends' tastes in women) but at least it would make more sense. Plus, Eric and Rafe have a connection through Sami and the kids, and he and Jordan both work at the hospital, so there was plenty of room for that relationship as well.

I think too many of the storylines are isolated when they don't need to be, but I wonder if that's a function of the way they shoot the show.
You've made some good points about how their connections lend to a more practical friendships. Isolation is such a determent on the show.

It's preposterous to make it seem like Kate is Rafe's great confident when we've actually witnessed his progression of friendship with Nicole. Besides caring for Nicole throughout her entire pregnancy, he confided in her he was still in love with Sami so Nicole encouraged and helped him in that pursuit. (Kissing Ej on NYE - which was hilarious!) Where did his camaraderie with Kate come from? Galen even said in a recent interview that it was just suppose to be a brief hook-up. I hate that they don't allow Rafe his friendship with Nicole in order to sell Kate.

Camera Shy made a good point too about Nicole being curious by nature and having to get to the bottom of things. Her plate has been full with shredding evidence and hiding it, but does she have to be consumed by that one story? Couldn't Nicole and Rafe be sounding boards for each other? I'd also love to see Rafe bounce back from wallowing in guilt and investigate exactly what everyone was hiding from him. Nick is dead and Gabi's in prison so get someone to confess what they were holding back. Good Buddy Kate hasn't exactly been the paragon of friendship she's parading herself to be and dude needs to open his eyes!
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Jun 11 2014, 09:03 PM
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Jun 11 2014, 09:00 PM
I totally think Eve is Paige's mother after today. She said she is coming to town and hasn't been there. There's the spoiler about how Paige is suppose to stay away from Teresa. It's probably Eve who doesn't want Teresa's influence around Paige
It would be funny if this was all just the writers messing with us and Eve turned out to be Rory's mom. :-)
Eve cannot be Rory' s mom because we have seen her and it was not Kassie DePaiva.

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Daniel & Chelsea never actually slept together, if I remember correctly
Kate called & interrupted while they were about to do it.lol
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Doesn't she already work for Victor in a way? I find it odd that Nicole is supposedly a reporter yet she didn't even know about a major breaking news (Nick's shooting).
He offered some job months ago.....just before she went to work as a reporter.
She already works for Victor though. She works at Titan T.V., or am I wrong?
Yes I am pretty sure she is a reporter for Titan Tv which is owned by
Victor
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