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SOD: Gabi leaves for prison
Topic Started: Jun 6 2014, 01:01 AM (8,028 Views)
nananana7
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Regarding the spoiler about Jordan and Rafe ...

In Weds June 4 episode, we saw ....

Rafe told Jordan something --- that indicated that from now on, they won't be as close as a couple -- or it won't be the same as it was ... or something along those lines. The inference was that he felt guilty for not being there for Gabi, because of his involvement with Jordan. He didn't actually say this, but it was implied (That was how I interpreted what he said).

Jordan said she understood and would be there for him. It seemed that she understood that he would need time to focus on his family and deal with his grief -- and she was letting him know she would understand that it would be a human reaction if he needed to withdraw from her a little, temporarily -- and that she'd accept being on the sidelines for a while -- and that she wanted him to know she understood -- but that he could come to her at any time. And she was hoping he'd dive back into their relationship when he was ready. (That was how I interpreted what she said).

We also saw a scene where Rafe phoned his FBI buddy for more info about Nick's time in prison.

My *speculation* is that Rafe will get obsessed with trying to understand what happened with Nick. Rafe didn't stop Nick while Nick was alive -- so maybe Rafe is trying to find out something after it's too late. Maybe some proof that Nick was more dangerous than everyone had been led to believe at his parole hearing? I dunno.

My *speculation* is that Rafe will get more obsessed with trying to fix things after the fact -- and maybe he'll go off on an unwise tangent. Or maybe he'll just close himself off to Jordan entirely.

Or (speculating) maybe he'll start investigating everyone who might have contact with baby Ari -- and this might alienate Jordan.

Either way, I speculate that Jordan will ... eventually ... decide the relationship is no longer working.
Edited by nananana7, Jun 6 2014, 11:18 AM.
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Restless84
Jun 6 2014, 07:52 AM
If Abigail got angry with Gabi, people would be calling her a judgmental, hypocritical bitch. She can't win, I swear.

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Yes, and those people would probably be the same ones who don't think Gabi was responsible for the Daysaster, and not the ones who are annoyed with her lack of reaction, now. Nobody wins all the time with all of the audience.

I wish all this had come out a year ago, while Chad was in town, Nick was alive and living with Magic and Ari's custody hadn't been settled. It could have lead to a Horton side story.
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tomsawyer
Jun 6 2014, 11:02 AM
Once upon a time, Gabi's role leading up the Daysaster that killed Jack could've provided some good conflict between the two women. But now it feels like they're just trying to check the box on addressing it before Gabi leaves. I don't know why Days wastes so many opportunities for drama.
I agree with you. I think Gabi had so much potential without Nick. They had to saddle her with a garden variety villain who was not even interesting. They've done the Nick thing the first time around they should've let it go.

Camilla played a bitch so well. They should've explored that angle. Instead, they had Gabi running around for months doing nothing but being pathetic. Then all of a sudden they decided to bring everything around and make her Nick's killer without a proper build-up. Camilla did a great job making Gabi sympathetic but the plot was stupid and full of inconsistencies, holes, and just stupid suspect lists with no proper motive. It tured out to be an extremely weak whodunit.
Edited by Kaha, Jun 6 2014, 12:17 PM.
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This is just so anticlimactic. I guess that's what happens when the show plays their most interesting beats off screen.
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Jun 6 2014, 10:00 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 01:44 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 01:36 AM
Of course, Abby will still be Gabi's friend because neither she nor her mother gave a rat's ass about Jack dying. If Daniel had died in that elevator, Abby would never speak to Gabi again.
Abigail doesn't have to forgive Gabi for Jack's death because Gabi had nothing to do with Jack dying...
I'm sorry but this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. As far as I am concerned Gabi caused the tunnel explosion. There were a bunch of events that preceded the tunnel explosion all caused by her. She hired Andrew to stalk Melanie and then when he turned all crazy she kept her mouth shut and did nothing to make the situation better.
Weren't there electrical wires or something that started sparking and caused the explosion? You can twist it any way you want it, but that doesn't make it true. Gabi was responsible for the kidnapping, yes, but she did not cause the explosion that killed Jack and Madison.
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If Gabi hadn't the hired psycho Andrew then NOT one of the things that followed with his storyline would have happened. Simple fact. When you hire a bad guy and he does bad things when he does what you hired him to do then you are responsible. Legal and otherwise. And I will always blame Jack and Madison's death on her. Just so glad that secret is coming out and I do agree about the Abby thing. She should be pissed off and HURT. But of course it was just her daddy dead in the elevator not the fucking magical godlike DOCTOR of Salem.
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Jun 6 2014, 10:02 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 01:12 AM
Ellie
Jun 6 2014, 01:01 AM
Daniel, however, is upset that what Gabi did could have gotten Melanie killed. He's also upset at Rafe's role covering things up...


I get why he's upset about what happened to Melanie, but this is just further proof that Daniel is literally involved in every aspect of the show. It's SO irritating.

Thanks for posting! I look forward to reading this full article eventually when my SOD comes in. Camila Banus literally ripped this show apart this past week, in a good way. I want more!
Of course he's upset. Melanie is his daughter. I don't see how that is none of his business
Did you read the first sentence of my post?

I get why he's upset about what happened to Melanie, but this is further proof that Daniel is literally involved in every aspect of the show.

I never said it was none of his business.
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#TeamXander

Oh shut up Daniel! here I was enjoying his absence from the screen
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I don't enjoy Daniel as a character but he has every right to be angry about what happened to his daughter. He's justified to be angry with Gabi for what she did to his daughter and with Rafe (an officer of the law) for covering up for his sister. Rafe has a responsibility to protect the public and he failed Melanie.
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Bellarke <3

I hate Daniel, but he has a right to be angry about what Gabi did to his daughter and Rafe for covering it up. I'm just happy that they didn't have Daniel solve the murder. The writers showed restraint for once. :D
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Jun 6 2014, 12:50 PM
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Jun 6 2014, 01:36 AM
Of course, Abby will still be Gabi's friend because neither she nor her mother gave a rat's ass about Jack dying. If Daniel had died in that elevator, Abby would never speak to Gabi again.
Abigail doesn't have to forgive Gabi for Jack's death because Gabi had nothing to do with Jack dying...
I'm sorry but this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. As far as I am concerned Gabi caused the tunnel explosion. There were a bunch of events that preceded the tunnel explosion all caused by her. She hired Andrew to stalk Melanie and then when he turned all crazy she kept her mouth shut and did nothing to make the situation better.
Weren't there electrical wires or something that started sparking and caused the explosion? You can twist it any way you want it, but that doesn't make it true. Gabi was responsible for the kidnapping, yes, but she did not cause the explosion that killed Jack and Madison.
Exactly. Stalking a person doesn't cause things to explode. They happened simultaneously but aren't really related. Gabi's responsibility has to do with Melanie, not the explosion. But I agree with tomsawyer that if this had come out sooner it could have provided some nice conflict with Gabi and Abby regardless of who was actually specifically at fault.
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Jun 6 2014, 12:50 PM
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Jun 6 2014, 01:36 AM
Of course, Abby will still be Gabi's friend because neither she nor her mother gave a rat's ass about Jack dying. If Daniel had died in that elevator, Abby would never speak to Gabi again.
Abigail doesn't have to forgive Gabi for Jack's death because Gabi had nothing to do with Jack dying...
I'm sorry but this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. As far as I am concerned Gabi caused the tunnel explosion. There were a bunch of events that preceded the tunnel explosion all caused by her. She hired Andrew to stalk Melanie and then when he turned all crazy she kept her mouth shut and did nothing to make the situation better.
Weren't there electrical wires or something that started sparking and caused the explosion? You can twist it any way you want it, but that doesn't make it true. Gabi was responsible for the kidnapping, yes, but she did not cause the explosion that killed Jack and Madison.
IIRC, the explosion happened because Andrew lit a match or used a lighter while he, Gabi and Melanie were in the tunnels. Andrew did inadvertantly cause the explosion and he was only in the tunnels because Gabi didn't turn him in to the police. Gabi's not legally responsible for the explosion, but she's partially morally responsible.
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Jun 6 2014, 01:54 PM
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I'm sorry but this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. As far as I am concerned Gabi caused the tunnel explosion. There were a bunch of events that preceded the tunnel explosion all caused by her. She hired Andrew to stalk Melanie and then when he turned all crazy she kept her mouth shut and did nothing to make the situation better.
Weren't there electrical wires or something that started sparking and caused the explosion? You can twist it any way you want it, but that doesn't make it true. Gabi was responsible for the kidnapping, yes, but she did not cause the explosion that killed Jack and Madison.
IIRC, the explosion happened because Andrew lit a match or used a lighter while he, Gabi and Melanie were in the tunnels. Andrew did inadvertantly cause the explosion and he was only in the tunnels because Gabi didn't turn him in to the police. Gabi's not legally responsible for the explosion, but she's partially morally responsible.
That is correct but I don't think that even makes Andrew morally responsible for the explosion, let alone Gabi. He shouldn't have been there, but it could have happened to anyone.
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Jun 6 2014, 01:44 AM

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I'm sorry but this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. As far as I am concerned Gabi caused the tunnel explosion. There were a bunch of events that preceded the tunnel explosion all caused by her. She hired Andrew to stalk Melanie and then when he turned all crazy she kept her mouth shut and did nothing to make the situation better.
Weren't there electrical wires or something that started sparking and caused the explosion? You can twist it any way you want it, but that doesn't make it true. Gabi was responsible for the kidnapping, yes, but she did not cause the explosion that killed Jack and Madison.
IIRC, the explosion happened because Andrew lit a match or used a lighter while he, Gabi and Melanie were in the tunnels. Andrew did inadvertantly cause the explosion and he was only in the tunnels because Gabi didn't turn him in to the police. Gabi's not legally responsible for the explosion, but she's partially morally responsible.
Hmm... I don't remember that at all. Does somebody have a clip? I remember Andrew on the ground and Chad asking him (if I remember correctly) where Melanie was and Andrew said "Ask your friend." Chad turned to Gabi and something started sparking and the explosion happened. But I could be wrong. Somebody please correct me if I am!
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

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Of course, Abby will still be Gabi's friend because neither she nor her mother gave a rat's ass about Jack dying. If Daniel had died in that elevator, Abby would never speak to Gabi again.
Abigail doesn't have to forgive Gabi for Jack's death because Gabi had nothing to do with Jack dying...
I'm sorry but this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. As far as I am concerned Gabi caused the tunnel explosion. There were a bunch of events that preceded the tunnel explosion all caused by her. She hired Andrew to stalk Melanie and then when he turned all crazy she kept her mouth shut and did nothing to make the situation better.
She did not hire him to stalk Melanie she hired him to stalk HER (GABI).....Andrew was the one that was at fault, he was the one that went rogue, started obsessing with Mel instead of Gabi and HE is the one responsible....
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Jun 6 2014, 01:57 PM
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Weren't there electrical wires or something that started sparking and caused the explosion? You can twist it any way you want it, but that doesn't make it true. Gabi was responsible for the kidnapping, yes, but she did not cause the explosion that killed Jack and Madison.
IIRC, the explosion happened because Andrew lit a match or used a lighter while he, Gabi and Melanie were in the tunnels. Andrew did inadvertantly cause the explosion and he was only in the tunnels because Gabi didn't turn him in to the police. Gabi's not legally responsible for the explosion, but she's partially morally responsible.
That is correct but I don't think that even makes Andrew morally responsible for the explosion, let alone Gabi. He shouldn't have been there, but it could have happened to anyone.
Sure, it could have happened to anyone, and I think anyone who decides to light a flame in the presence of strong fumes should be blamed if it results in an explosion. Isn't it common knowledge that gas fumes and fire don't mix?

Edited by six, Jun 6 2014, 02:11 PM.
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You know, when I thought about Gabi's role in the explosion being revealed, I wanted Abigail to lash out at her for being responsible for Jack's death. However, now that it's happening, and thinking about it further, Abigail could be upset with Gabi at first, but it's quite out there to blame Gabi. She may have put it all in motion, but in no way could she actually be held responsible for the explosions and those who died in them.

I do like that Daniel has a reaction though. He should. As should Maggie. Melanie may not be a popular character, but those close to her are still around, and should be affected by this.
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Jun 6 2014, 02:07 PM
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IIRC, the explosion happened because Andrew lit a match or used a lighter while he, Gabi and Melanie were in the tunnels. Andrew did inadvertantly cause the explosion and he was only in the tunnels because Gabi didn't turn him in to the police. Gabi's not legally responsible for the explosion, but she's partially morally responsible.
That is correct but I don't think that even makes Andrew morally responsible for the explosion, let alone Gabi. He shouldn't have been there, but it could have happened to anyone.
Sure, it could have happened to anyone, and I think anyone who decides to light a flame in the presence of strong fumes should be blamed if it results in an explosion. Isn't it common knowledge that gas fumes and fire don't mix?
I guess it depends on the situation. I think they both have some responsibility for some things and if the involved characters were still around I'd have liked it coming out more than I do in this particular context.
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six
Jun 6 2014, 02:07 PM
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Jun 6 2014, 12:50 PM

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IIRC, the explosion happened because Andrew lit a match or used a lighter while he, Gabi and Melanie were in the tunnels. Andrew did inadvertantly cause the explosion and he was only in the tunnels because Gabi didn't turn him in to the police. Gabi's not legally responsible for the explosion, but she's partially morally responsible.
That is correct but I don't think that even makes Andrew morally responsible for the explosion, let alone Gabi. He shouldn't have been there, but it could have happened to anyone.
Sure, it could have happened to anyone, and I think anyone who decides to light a flame in the presence of strong fumes should be blamed if it results in an explosion. Isn't it common knowledge that gas fumes and fire don't mix?

Plus he did something to one of the electrical boxes, hit it or something like that.
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Jun 6 2014, 02:04 PM
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Jun 6 2014, 01:36 AM
Of course, Abby will still be Gabi's friend because neither she nor her mother gave a rat's ass about Jack dying. If Daniel had died in that elevator, Abby would never speak to Gabi again.
Abigail doesn't have to forgive Gabi for Jack's death because Gabi had nothing to do with Jack dying...
I'm sorry but this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. As far as I am concerned Gabi caused the tunnel explosion. There were a bunch of events that preceded the tunnel explosion all caused by her. She hired Andrew to stalk Melanie and then when he turned all crazy she kept her mouth shut and did nothing to make the situation better.
She did not hire him to stalk Melanie she hired him to stalk HER (GABI).....Andrew was the one that was at fault, he was the one that went rogue, started obsessing with Mel instead of Gabi and HE is the one responsible....
I'm not positive, but I remember a scene after the "rat in the salad" prank, where Gabi tells Andrew to get Melanie out of town. It is not exactly asking him to kidnap Mel, but how else would he have been able to run her out of town? I could be wrong though. :shrug:

All this talk about Andrew... I miss him! He may have been crazy, but he had potential. :)

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Edited by Deverauxfan, Jun 6 2014, 02:46 PM.
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