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SOD: Eric to Nicole: Take off the ring!
Topic Started: Jun 6 2014, 01:19 AM (7,531 Views)
Cassie1


I will be so pissed if they spent 18+ months building this amazing connection with Eric and Nicole only to have it destroyed! Nicole is damaged! Eric knew this and still fell in love with her! I hate what the writers have done to Jennifer and I hate that we can get a POV from Eric. I am just about over this BS!!!
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Rosebud
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Jun 6 2014, 01:19 AM
Nicole is furious at Daniel and Jennifer. Ari Zucker shares that this is because "they didn't give Nicole the space to tell Eric what she needed to tell him in her own time."

Eric then asks Nicole to take off her ring. Greg Vaughan shares that Eric feels betrayed and doesn't want others to get the wrong idea. Ari Zucker says that Eric accused Nicole of drugging and raping him, and she forgave him, so Nicole is upset that no one can forgive her.

Marlena and Sami offer their support to Eric, who wants to just move on. But will Nicole let him? Check out the latest Digest for details!
Sounds like they're planning on turning Nicole into more of a Kristen type psycho, instead of just being a bad girl.

I gotta say I don't see how Eric calling her a rapist, as horrible as that was, is equal to what Nicole did to Eric, and the ramifications of her choice to destroy the evidence. After all, her decision gave Kristen a free ride to keep lying and denying what she did.

It's pretty hard to be sympathetic to Nicole now after the show decided to have her destroy the evidence. I could have felt more sympathetic if she hadn't lied right to his face so many times, because I did see her struggle with it.

That said, I don't have much sympathy for Eric either. He never tried to find the evidence on his own, instead chose to pray about it and get his answers from god. Sorry pal, but you can't expect others to do your work for you, and then get all pissed off when the evidence they found on your behalf is destroyed.

Edited by Rosebud, Jun 6 2014, 10:39 AM.
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Sariah
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This just makes me sad. I hate that they've tainted Ericole like this. I hate that I can expect Eviel and Jeneric in the next few months and a whiny, crying, begging Nicole.

The show had something magical and they just crapped all over it. Such a shame.

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SunAngel
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The real question is when will Nicole be tarred and feathered?
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Kaha
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I just don't undersand the constant kvetching about Nicole's treatment or "annual humiliation". Doesn't this happen with every character with a secret? I mean, how many times was Sami Brady humiliated and exposed infront of the whole town? Why is this different? Wasn't Kristen humiliated twice last year? How about EJ? The whole town (minus Sami, Will and Gabi) treats him like a pariah and throws his misdeeds at him all the time, so why should Nicole be any different? People even treat Theresa worse than anyone and she hasn't done much.
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Jun 6 2014, 12:27 PM
I just don't undersand the constant kvetching about Nicole's treatment or "annual humiliation". Doesn't this happen with every character with a secret? I mean, how many times was Sami Brady humiliated and exposed infront of the whole town? Why is this different? Wasn't Kristen humiliated twice last year? How about EJ? The whole town (minus Sami, Will and Gabi) treats him like a pariah and throws his misdeeds at him all the time, so why should Nicole be any different? People even treat Theresa worse than anyone and she hasn't done much.
When Sami was being humiliated, she still had someone in her corner. Kristen has the DiMera family, so does EJ. Who does Nicole have? I don't think I would be complaining about this half as much if Nicole still had Brandon or her mother around. Or if the show actually cared about her relationship with Abe.

But mostly, I think people are frustrated because it seems Nicole is never gonna grow as a character. We're gonna see this merry-go-round of lying and being exposed until she's 80 or leaves the show. It's getting old. Some of us want more for her.
Edited by throughthehourglass, Jun 6 2014, 01:01 PM.
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Jun 6 2014, 06:22 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 05:12 AM
james0479
Jun 6 2014, 03:58 AM
I will forever love the way AZ GETS Nicole and stands by her!!
I don't get where she says dannifer didnt give her the space to tell eric in her own time because it was clear if she had her way,eric would never know. :rolleyes:

Nothing against arianne zucker. I just think she is not telling the truth with that statement
True but after Dan left, she was supposed to go to tell Eric. As far as big mouth Jennifer goes anyway, but she beat her to the punch.

She was supposed to, but what she actually did, after Daniel left, was call Eric and tell him that Daniel was out of his mind. She had more than enough chances to come clean and she blew every single one because she had no intention of ever telling Eric the truth.

I'm glad Jennifer stepped in. Eric had a right to know, and Nicole was far too dishonest and Daniel was too trusting of her, to get us to the next step in the story.
Edited by six, Jun 6 2014, 12:50 PM.
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Jun 6 2014, 10:41 AM
The real question is when will Nicole be tarred and feathered?
Maybe they can plagiarize another soap get her in a fountain at HTS and baptize herself the slut and liar of Salem. Beat everyone to the punch ala Reva Shayne.
Edited by astropastel, Jun 6 2014, 12:58 PM.
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LuvingLumi
Jun 6 2014, 09:11 AM
I just want Eric to admit that he would have still chosen Nicole over the church with paper evidence presented and all....I NEED HIM TO ADMIT THAT even if it's just talking to himself or fantasizing about it or something. If this show writes that Eric would have chosen to stay a priest if evidence presented himself after they wrote it to seem that he chose Nicole over church, then I am really going to be pissed.
Not that I like Ericole any but it would make sense and add to the irony of it all that he would've chosen her regardless of the evidence. Eric just wanted his name to be cleared. But I think he will know think choosing Nicole was a mistake because she deceived him after he'd thought she had changed.
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lysie


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Ari Zucker says that Eric accused Nicole of drugging and raping him, and she forgave him, so Nicole is upset that no one can forgive her.


I hate this argument. Yeah, she forgave him. Eventually. It was a process. Expecting it not to be a process with him, regardless of religion, is silly.
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The thing is though, that I think Eric would have gone back to the priesthood if Nicole had gave him the evidence. At least if he would have been written in a true to character way. However, Nicole would have had to take that chance. It would have been more likely and truthful to have them then later on have a real Thornbird relationship with Eric actually being in the priesthood if they wanted to go down that road and keep that pairing.
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lysie
Jun 6 2014, 01:09 PM
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Ari Zucker says that Eric accused Nicole of drugging and raping him, and she forgave him, so Nicole is upset that no one can forgive her.


I hate this argument. Yeah, she forgave him. Eventually. It was a process. Expecting it not to be a process with him, regardless of religion, is silly.
I agree, plus these things weren't really even comparable.
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Cassie1


I never was completely sold on the fact that Eric would have chosen Nicole. I know the writers did that on purpose. I know because I literally waited for him to give us some sort of YES or NO to her questions. I think the fact that they haven't given Eric a point of view left the story wide open for this sort of crap to happen. I think (but not positive) that the writers, in some twisted way, actually like Ericole. "Jealous" Father Eric and "hands all over Nicole" Eric is FAR hotter than just plain Father Eric so going back to the priesthood would be a total waste of an amazing, and let me just say it once more, HOT actor.
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All I got is: The whole Ericole thing makes me sad. All that build up and I feel like I got kicked in the stomach.
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My whole problem with Ericole from the get-go was that I never got that Eric was unhappy being a priest and I rarely if ever saw Eric be conflicted by it. I saw her longing for him and him liking her as a friend most often. I wanted to root for them to get together, to be sure, but the very fact that the show had to contrive an elaborate rape storyline to get Eric booted from the priesthood shows that they kind of painted themselves in a corner.

And what upset me about the shredding and its aftermath was that I wanted to believe that Eric's faith in Nicole inspired her to be a better person. The writing over months indicated that was happening for her. I would rather have him left the priesthood for her voluntarily and then found out that she did something shady to someone else and him started to have reservations. Yes, I know she is inclined to weakness and mistakes but still.

It doesn't help that he's gone from being a compassionate priest to being a self-involved, pissy jerk. And I will say again that I hate that he's secondary to his own storyline. He should have been searching for the evidence himself if it was so important. Instead Daniel and Nicole had to do it for him.

At the very least, I would have liked him to be pissed off at Jennifer for being a busybody.

The show did good work initially establishing Eric as a decent guy. Now, I wish Nicole would get a love interest that understands her better, can solve his own problems and is not torn about what he wants. And I want that guy to inspire her to be a better person.
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Jun 6 2014, 04:54 PM
My whole problem with Ericole from the get-go was that I never got that Eric was unhappy being a priest and I rarely if ever saw Eric be conflicted by it. I saw her longing for him and him liking her as a friend most often. I wanted to root for them to get together, to be sure, but the very fact that the show had to contrive an elaborate rape storyline to get Eric booted from the priesthood shows that they kind of painted themselves in a corner.

And what upset me about the shredding and its aftermath was that I wanted to believe that Eric's faith in Nicole inspired her to be a better person. The writing over months indicated that was happening for her. I would rather have him left the priesthood for her voluntarily and then found out that she did something shady to someone else and him started to have reservations. Yes, I know she is inclined to weakness and mistakes but still.

It doesn't help that he's gone from being a compassionate priest to being a self-involved, pissy jerk. And I will say again that I hate that he's secondary to his own storyline. He should have been searching for the evidence himself if it was so important. Instead Daniel and Nicole had to do it for him.

At the very least, I would have liked him to be pissed off at Jennifer for being a busybody.

The show did good work initially establishing Eric as a decent guy. Now, I wish Nicole would get a love interest that understands her better, can solve his own problems and is not torn about what he wants. And I want that guy to inspire her to be a better person.

^This whole thing.

And that's the way it was until an abrupt and total change in Nicole's heretofore motivation: to get the evidence to clear him so he could make an informed decision-- the church or her.

Then he did choose her. Not informed about the evidence YET.

He tells her this.

She shreds.

ETA: I may have reported this post in error. Clicked wrong.
Edited by franciose, Jun 6 2014, 05:11 PM.
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If Days had just allowed Nicole to have her last baby, Nicole being dumped on yet again wouldn't bother me as much. I don't see myself tuning back in anytime soon.
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throughthehourglass
Jun 6 2014, 12:48 PM
Kaha
Jun 6 2014, 12:27 PM
I just don't undersand the constant kvetching about Nicole's treatment or "annual humiliation". Doesn't this happen with every character with a secret? I mean, how many times was Sami Brady humiliated and exposed infront of the whole town? Why is this different? Wasn't Kristen humiliated twice last year? How about EJ? The whole town (minus Sami, Will and Gabi) treats him like a pariah and throws his misdeeds at him all the time, so why should Nicole be any different? People even treat Theresa worse than anyone and she hasn't done much.
When Sami was being humiliated, she still had someone in her corner. Kristen has the DiMera family, so does EJ. Who does Nicole have? I don't think I would be complaining about this half as much if Nicole still had Brandon or her mother around. Or if the show actually cared about her relationship with Abe.

But mostly, I think people are frustrated because it seems Nicole is never gonna grow as a character. We're gonna see this merry-go-round of lying and being exposed until she's 80 or leaves the show. It's getting old. Some of us want more for her.
Seems like it's always 1 step forward 3 steps back for Nicole. And I hate that. Especially after all the growth we saw from her in the last year. I really really hate what they've done with her. :shame:

Edited by LanaluvsBroe, Jun 6 2014, 05:58 PM.
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Jun 6 2014, 12:27 PM
I just don't undersand the constant kvetching about Nicole's treatment or "annual humiliation". Doesn't this happen with every character with a secret? I mean, how many times was Sami Brady humiliated and exposed infront of the whole town? Why is this different? Wasn't Kristen humiliated twice last year? How about EJ? The whole town (minus Sami, Will and Gabi) treats him like a pariah and throws his misdeeds at him all the time, so why should Nicole be any different? People even treat Theresa worse than anyone and she hasn't done much.
The difference for me is that those other characters win so often. Sami's won the man of her dreams many times over. At one point she had three men on screen, hot, sexy leading men, who all wanted to be with her. She's the object of desire. Men would do ANYTHING for her - including kidnapping, murder, etc. She may have had her downs, but Sami's also had a lot of ups. Not to mention that the Bradys stand behind her all the time now. In the past they would call her on her crap, but now she's just made of awesome and they all love her.

EJ's another who gets what he wants. And even if people don't like him, no one is slut-shaming him or bringing up things that he was forced to do against his will as a teenager.

I'm not saying those characters don't get punished - they do. But I don't see anyone on the show who is so often the subject of public derision and humiliation as Nicole.

I don't see anyone taking her side when it comes to the porn she did. No one defends her. No one points out that she was forced to do it by her father. Instead, they constantly refer to it and what a slut/skank/whore she is.

Nicole wants a baby more than anything in the world. And she's been pregnant multiple times with miracle babies and lost them all.

Nicole can't find anyone who will love and accept her as she is that 1) isn't in love with someone else, 2) won't turn on her in a second if she acts like Nicole, and 3) isn't just using her until something better comes along.

She never wins. She's never the object of desire. She's never pursued by multiple men all dying to be with her. Nicole is always, always, always the loser. In love, in family, in happiness. As a fan, I'm more than a little tired of it. I'd like to see her win and win big.
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LanaluvsBroe
Jun 6 2014, 05:57 PM
throughthehourglass
Jun 6 2014, 12:48 PM
Kaha
Jun 6 2014, 12:27 PM
I just don't undersand the constant kvetching about Nicole's treatment or "annual humiliation". Doesn't this happen with every character with a secret? I mean, how many times was Sami Brady humiliated and exposed infront of the whole town? Why is this different? Wasn't Kristen humiliated twice last year? How about EJ? The whole town (minus Sami, Will and Gabi) treats him like a pariah and throws his misdeeds at him all the time, so why should Nicole be any different? People even treat Theresa worse than anyone and she hasn't done much.
When Sami was being humiliated, she still had someone in her corner. Kristen has the DiMera family, so does EJ. Who does Nicole have? I don't think I would be complaining about this half as much if Nicole still had Brandon or her mother around. Or if the show actually cared about her relationship with Abe.

But mostly, I think people are frustrated because it seems Nicole is never gonna grow as a character. We're gonna see this merry-go-round of lying and being exposed until she's 80 or leaves the show. It's getting old. Some of us want more for her.
Seems like it's always 1 step forward 3 steps back for Nicole. And I hate that. Especially after all the growth we saw from her in the last year. I really really hate what they've done with her. :shame:

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