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SOD: Julie confronts Gabi
Topic Started: Jun 6 2014, 01:27 AM (6,758 Views)
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Jun 6 2014, 09:32 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 08:04 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 06:57 AM
So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?
Julie did tell Nick to stay away from Gabi at one point after he returned from "New York." She told him Gabi was trouble with a capital T. The audience didn't even know Gabi felt threatened and we saw everything. How was Julie supposed to know what was going on? Imagine if Julie knew about the river incident!
She told Nick that Gabi was trouble, even though she knew Nick had a problem with obsessive stalking behavior to the point where he murdered somebody to control Melanie. Yet, she multiple times pushed Gabi toward Nick and talked about their great love. Gabi killed him. She could at least acknowledge that she missed some key dynamics in their relationship and was not helpful to Nick.
It might have helped if Julie had had all the facts of what was occurring but everyone she talked to lied to her to cover their own behinds. Regardless, I don't know why any of that would make Julie okay with Gabi murdering Nick in cold blood. Even Gabi said she didn't have a right to do that. Julie loved Nick and she has a right to be angry with Gabi for killing him.
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Jun 6 2014, 06:57 AM
So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?

Thank you for posting that.

I think that Julie needs to face this and not avoid it -- and then work through the ensuing emotions.

I'd like to see scenes where Julie goes through the stages of grief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, ....
..... and perhaps even *someday* forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving).
I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
Edited by nananana7, Jun 6 2014, 10:14 AM.
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Jun 6 2014, 06:57 AM
So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?

Thank you for posting that.

I think that Julie needs to face this and not avoid it -- and then work through the ensuing emotions.

I'd like to see scenes where Julie goes through the stages of grief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
Edited by jam6242, Jun 6 2014, 10:18 AM.
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Yeah I know. It's such a shame.
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Jun 6 2014, 01:34 AM
Funny, I thought she was already on a long journey away from Salem.
Lmao it is true. We barely see her on the show :blulaugh:
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^ My face watching DAYS

So basically what this article means is we will see EVEN LESS of Julie...who is already BARELY seen?

Wonderful! :sarcasm:
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Jun 6 2014, 06:57 AM
So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?

Thank you for posting that.

I think that Julie needs to face this and not avoid it -- and then work through the ensuing emotions.

I'd like to see scenes where Julie goes through the stages of grief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
My feelings about this are strong because I think Susan would rock soul searching scenes. And I also acknowledge there were times when Julie recognized that Nick still had serious problems and times when she seemed oblivious - but you know, you could chalk that up to inconsistent writing or the fact that people are inconsistent and develop blind spots about people they love.

It's just that Sonny expressed guilt for bringing the gun into the house. Will expressed guilt for not standing up to Nick the first time he blackmailed him. Rafe expressed guilt for not recognizing how trapped Gabi felt. Hope seems incredibly guilty for not seeing just how disturbed Nick was and how many people he hurt. None of these people are responsible for Gabi's actions, but there is a general sense that the situation did not need to come what it did.

None of this means that Gabi did right when she killed Nick, it just means that the situation that drove her to it could have been prevented on multiple fronts and I wish Julie was more fully used so that she could get to play some of the soul searching that comes along with that.

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Jun 6 2014, 10:14 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 10:11 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 06:57 AM
So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?

Thank you for posting that.

I think that Julie needs to face this and not avoid it -- and then work through the ensuing emotions.

I'd like to see scenes where Julie goes through the stages of grief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
My feelings about this are strong because I think Susan would rock soul searching scenes. And I also acknowledge there were times when Julie recognized that Nick still had serious problems and times when she seemed oblivious - but you know, you could chalk that up to inconsistent writing or the fact that people are inconsistent and develop blind spots about people they love.

It's just that Sonny expressed guilt for bringing the gun into the house. Will expressed guilt for not standing up to Nick the first time he blackmailed him. Rafe expressed guilt for not recognizing how trapped Gabi felt. Hope seems incredibly guilty for not seeing just how disturbed Nick was and how many people he hurt. None of these people are responsible for Gabi's actions, but there is a general sense that the situation did not need to come what it did.

None of this means that Gabi did right when she killed Nick, it just means that the situation that drove her to it could have been prevented on multiple fronts and I wish Julie was more fully used so that she could get to play some of the soul searching that comes along with that.

She could feel guilty herself and still also want Gabi punished. Guess we'll have to see how the scenes play out. I agree more should have been shown onscreen so viewers (especially newer ones who don't know Julie's history) would have understood her bond with Nick. And yes, Susan would be great in scenes you and nananana7 described. No one ever suffered more beautifully than Julie back in the day. That's how Susan received so many Emmy nominations.
Edited by jam6242, Jun 6 2014, 10:35 AM.
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Jun 6 2014, 10:14 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 10:11 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 06:57 AM
So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?

Thank you for posting that.

I think that Julie needs to face this and not avoid it -- and then work through the ensuing emotions.

I'd like to see scenes where Julie goes through the stages of grief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
Don't they watch the fans' positive reactions whenever we see Julie (and Doug)? Why the hell don't they use them more?

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Jun 6 2014, 10:35 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 10:14 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 10:11 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 06:57 AM
So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?

Thank you for posting that.

I think that Julie needs to face this and not avoid it -- and then work through the ensuing emotions.

I'd like to see scenes where Julie goes through the stages of grief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
Don't they watch the fans' positive reactions whenever we see Julie (and Doug)? Why the hell don't they use them more?

Greg Meng commented on it not too long ago but he doesn't seem to be in charge anymore.
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Jun 6 2014, 10:36 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 10:14 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 10:11 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deephttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
Don't they watch the fans' positive reactions whenever we see Julie (and Doug)? Why the hell don't they use them more?

Greg Meng commented on it not too long ago but he doesn't seem to be in charge anymore.
Hmmm...then who is in charge?
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Jun 6 2014, 10:46 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 10:14 AM
Don't they watch the fans' positive reactions whenever we see Julie (and Doug)? Why the hell don't they use them more?

Greg Meng commented on it not too long ago but he doesn't seem to be in charge anymore.
Hmmm...then who is in charge?
Well, Lisa De Cazzotte is the producer the actors refer to most often these days. I suppose someone at NBC could be making the decisions too.
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Jun 6 2014, 10:14 AM
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Jun 6 2014, 06:57 AM
So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?

Thank you for posting that.

I think that Julie needs to face this and not avoid it -- and then work through the ensuing emotions.

I'd like to see scenes where Julie goes through the stages of grief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
My feelings about this are strong because I think Susan would rock soul searching scenes. And I also acknowledge there were times when Julie recognized that Nick still had serious problems and times when she seemed oblivious - but you know, you could chalk that up to inconsistent writing or the fact that people are inconsistent and develop blind spots about people they love.

It's just that Sonny expressed guilt for bringing the gun into the house. Will expressed guilt for not standing up to Nick the first time he blackmailed him. Rafe expressed guilt for not recognizing how trapped Gabi felt. Hope seems incredibly guilty for not seeing just how disturbed Nick was and how many people he hurt. None of these people are responsible for Gabi's actions, but there is a general sense that the situation did not need to come what it did.

None of this means that Gabi did right when she killed Nick, it just means that the situation that drove her to it could have been prevented on multiple fronts and I wish Julie was more fully used so that she could get to play some of the soul searching that comes along with that.

It was ridiculous how Julie disappeared immediately after the shooting. She should've been around grieving, pushing Hope and the police to find Nick's killer, talking to Will and Gabi about Nick. She should've done her own rogue investigation.
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Jun 6 2014, 10:11 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deephttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
My feelings about this are strong because I think Susan would rock soul searching scenes. And I also acknowledge there were times when Julie recognized that Nick still had serious problems and times when she seemed oblivious - but you know, you could chalk that up to inconsistent writing or the fact that people are inconsistent and develop blind spots about people they love.

It's just that Sonny expressed guilt for bringing the gun into the house. Will expressed guilt for not standing up to Nick the first time he blackmailed him. Rafe expressed guilt for not recognizing how trapped Gabi felt. Hope seems incredibly guilty for not seeing just how disturbed Nick was and how many people he hurt. None of these people are responsible for Gabi's actions, but there is a general sense that the situation did not need to come what it did.

None of this means that Gabi did right when she killed Nick, it just means that the situation that drove her to it could have been prevented on multiple fronts and I wish Julie was more fully used so that she could get to play some of the soul searching that comes along with that.

It was ridiculous how Julie disappeared immediately after the shooting. She should've been around grieving, pushing Hope and the police to find Nick's killer, talking to Will and Gabi about Nick. She should've done her own rogue investigation.
And during the investigation, she could have uncovered just how many people Nick hurt - including Will and Abigail who are also her cousins. Again, this doesn't mean she doesn't have a right to be angry at Gabi, but seeing that there were a half dozen or more people with a solid motive to kill Nick could have at least given her pause.
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Jun 6 2014, 10:14 AM
My feelings about this are strong because I think Susan would rock soul searching scenes. And I also acknowledge there were times when Julie recognized that Nick still had serious problems and times when she seemed oblivious — but you know, you could chalk that up to inconsistent writing or the fact that people are inconsistent and develop blind spots about people they love.

It's just that Sonny expressed guilt for bringing the gun into the house. Will expressed guilt for not standing up to Nick the first time he blackmailed him. Rafe expressed guilt for not recognizing how trapped Gabi felt. Hope seems incredibly guilty for not seeing just how disturbed Nick was and how many people he hurt. None of these people are responsible for Gabi's actions, but there is a general sense that the situation did not need to come what it did.

None of this means that Gabi did right when she killed Nick, it just means that the situation that drove her to it could have been prevented on multiple fronts and I wish Julie was more fully used so that she could get to play some of the soul searching that comes along with that.

It was ridiculous how Julie disappeared immediately after the shooting. She should've been around grieving, pushing Hope and the police to find Nick's killer, talking to Will and Gabi about Nick. She should've done her own rogue investigation.
And during the investigation, she could have uncovered just how many people Nick hurt — including Will and Abigail who are also her cousins. Again, this doesn't mean she doesn't have a right to be angry at Gabi, but seeing that there were a half dozen or more people with a solid motive to kill Nick could have at least given her pause.
The writers are dumb and they're not creative. They only use valuable characters like Julie and Adrianne as a plot point. They're not interested in telling a story or incorporating them into a s/l they have a natural connection to. Their inclusion can only improve the storyline but they're plot driven so who cares about Julie having a nuanced reaction. Julie is there to be a one-note character.
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So sad that Doug and Julie will be joining Justin and Adrienne and Kaylah in the never never land of veteran soap actors only to be seen at weddings and on holidays. ..maybe. They all have so much to offer in terms of history and experience...what a waste of talent. :shrug:
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So, Julie takes no pause to consider how her blindness to Nick's behavior and pushiness toward getting him together with Gabi might have been wrongheaded? Gabi was terrified of Nick enough to kill him. But Julie doesn't even recognize or acknowledge her delusions about their relationship?

Thank you for posting that.

I think that Julie needs to face this and not avoid it -- and then work through the ensuing emotions.

I'd like to see scenes where Julie goes through the stages of grief.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
These stages don't fit this situation exactly -- but she needs something along those lines.

I would like to see scenes where she is wrestling with this -- where we SEE her starting to face it, and then go back to denying it. Back and forth.

I think it would be a great storyline for Julie to come to terms with this. Full of angst and grief and anger and regret and guilt -- and all sorts of illogical emotions. Meanwhile she'd be her snarky perky self in public.

We could see her getting therapy for this. We could see her discussing this in private scenes with her therapist and in conversations with Hope and Doug and Maggie. Eventually, she'd experience some inner healing and then eventual forgive herself, forgive Nick, and perhaps even forgive Gabi (Forgiving Gabi doesn't mean forgetting or condoning the killing. It just means forgiving). I'd like to see her finally come to a deeper understanding of what WilSon went through.

SSH would do a great job with such scenes. We would see Julie as multi-faceted and dynamic.

But instead we learn in SOD that she's pissed off and going to take a long journey away from Salem? Why? Is she mad at Salemites for disliking Nick? Or is she going on a journey of inner healing?
She's doing it because Susan doesn't have a contract! :blulaugh: I get the feeling that Susan also thinks this is a wtf story for Julie but is glad to have something to do other than hang Christmas ornaments. It's a shame Days doesn't seem to appreciate her (or Bill) properly.
Oh man! That means even when Christmas rolls around, we'll revisit "Nick" through his stupid ornament. Gabi's right - he just won't die and I fear - NEITHER will this story! Ever.
Edited by PALMommy, Jun 6 2014, 01:21 PM.
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So Nick's death sends Julie out of Salem again. Sigh. See ya in December!
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Bye ssh these writers don't know you oh well more time for dan
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Jun 6 2014, 03:47 AM
The key thing here is basically "the bond happened off camera". Susan is well aware there weren't any scenes that makes Julie's connection to Nick flow to the audience. There should have been...but there weren't any that were substantial. Honestly, the defender and protector of Nick should've been Maggie. Viewers who saw Nick's first run understand that! Oh well. I love Julie and look forward to seeing her even if it doesn't make sense.
I understand Maggie's defense of Nick sometimes. And I understand her caring for him. BUT Melanie is her granddaughter. Nick, I believe, was her nephew. I thought at one time he was her grandson, but didn't the writers change the family dynamics to make him a nephew? I don't know. In any case, Maggie had to be on Daniel's and Melanie's sides in this. She tried to help Nick and it backfired. Julie was the better champion for Nick.
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