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Monday, June 9th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 7 2014, 01:24 AM (18,232 Views)
PALMommy
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Matt
Jun 9 2014, 12:03 PM
I am HERE for Nicole dragging Jennifer's ass for filth
:frustration: I was SO disappointed. I totally understand WHY Jennifer did what she did (and she confirmed what we thought: she didn't trust Daniel to hold Nicole's feet to the fire) AND I understand why Nicole did her stupidity (out of insecurity). But I was so looking forward to Nicole slapping Jennifer into next week so at least we could avoid seeing her on our screens THIS week. :whack:
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Matt
Jun 9 2014, 12:16 PM
Immaneed Nicole to punch Jennifer in the face....
This. SOOOOO MUCH THIS!

:fight:
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Jun 9 2014, 02:08 PM
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Jun 9 2014, 01:56 PM
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Jun 9 2014, 01:42 PM
LanaluvsBroe
Jun 9 2014, 01:39 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
1. I'm talking about the things she said today.
2. She didn't pick that fight with Nicole. She was minding her own business when Nicole accosted her and grabbed her.
She sure wasn't minding her own business when she was eavesdropping on Daniel and Nicole's conversation while deciding to go tattle to Eric about what she heard. Nicole is in the wrong but that doesn't make Jennifer anymore likable.
I found her quite a bit more likable because of the things she said to Nicole today. Also, it was wrong of Daniel and Nicole to keep Eric in the dark for so long and I'm glad someone finally told him the truth. It clearly wasn't ever going to be Nicole, and Daniel was way too trusting of Nicole to ever make sure she told the truth.
How long did Daniel keep Eric in the dark for. ( In Salem days)
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Today, grieving the loss of Rik Mayall (RIP), I realized that Daniel as a character has already been invented. He IS Lord Flashheart, without the irony. If the writers wrote the character of Daniel like Flashheart, he would be as popular as they think Daniel should be.
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Although, I must say I am at least pleasantly surprised that Nicole was able to call out Jenn-Jenn on her sanctimony, even though they had to make Nicole dishonest to make up for that.
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jewlmc
Jun 9 2014, 12:32 PM
I'm gonna need for Eric to stop apologizing to Daniel.
I know! When he said that I seriously thought :censored:

Dear Eric,

Your good friend Daniel has known for awhile now and he didn't come to you immediately and tell you. You're a hypocritical, unforgiving, weiner.

Love, PALMommy.

p.s. You might wanna wear extra sunblock near Dr. Dayglo.
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Honeybees
Jun 9 2014, 05:44 PM



Although, I must say I am at least pleasantly surprised that Nicole was able to call out Jenn-Jenn on her sanctimony, even though they had to make Nicole dishonest to make up for that.
And that bugs me, because the only people who do the calling out on the sanctimonious are the ones who are the town pariahs, and no one believes them. Same when Nicole started calling out the "New and Improved" Sami, or Vivian with Maggie.
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PALMommy
Jun 9 2014, 05:32 PM
Honeybees
Jun 9 2014, 11:25 AM

Paige runs into her friend at the club.

Is is wrong that I found Paige's friend more exciting than Paige? let's hear more about Princeton. ^_^
I liked Paige today. She goes you purposely spilled coffee on me and what the hell are you putting in my purse. She wasn't buying any of his bullshit
Edited by DaysAddiction, Jun 9 2014, 05:53 PM.
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Rosebud
Jun 9 2014, 01:00 PM
Hm, maybe Nicole and Daniel will have angry make up sex while Jennifer and Eric have sad clown comfort sex! :blulaugh:
Oh man! Now I'm gonna be humming and singing "Send in the Clowns"!

Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother, they're here.
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Honeybees
Jun 9 2014, 05:44 PM
Today, grieving the loss of Rik Mayall (RIP), I realized that Daniel as a character has already been invented. He IS Lord Flashheart, without the irony. If the writers wrote the character of Daniel like Flashheart, he would be as popular as they think Daniel should be.
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Although, I must say I am at least pleasantly surprised that Nicole was able to call out Jenn-Jenn on her sanctimony, even though they had to make Nicole dishonest to make up for that.
So sad, he was so young :shame:
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DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 04:32 PM
fundays13
Jun 9 2014, 04:24 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 04:10 PM
Does anyone know when the writers are wrapping up this storyline?
Corday seemed to imply they were a quandrangle during summer preview rundown,so probably at least through July.

Im convinced eve plays a big part with daniel,at least initially. Shes suppose to bring him trouble and dont believe any longer she is someone from his past.
That is torture for us viewers. We have to wait another month :(
Maybe they will be over sooner. Certain spoilers say jen is going to be sued over Jack's book soon . And if eve is going to give dan trouble,they both will be too busy to interfere in nicole's life anymore
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Mitchapalooza
Jun 9 2014, 02:02 PM
Miss Rhi
Jun 9 2014, 01:01 PM
james0479
Jun 9 2014, 12:23 PM
Nicole and Jennifer being friends is the most ridiculous thing since Austin and Greta went to the Garden Of Eden. Or when Mike and Carrie went on a magic carpet ride!!!
http://youtu.be/GIdfmYKi3k8
This love scene made me SICK to my stomach....I wanted to murder both of them at the time.

I absolutely hated Mike & Carrie.
I loved Mike and Carrie A LOT, but that scene? Dear merciful Lord in Heaven - it was SO bad! :shithitfan:
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six
Jun 9 2014, 02:08 PM
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Jun 9 2014, 01:56 PM
six
Jun 9 2014, 01:42 PM
LanaluvsBroe
Jun 9 2014, 01:39 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
1. I'm talking about the things she said today.
2. She didn't pick that fight with Nicole. She was minding her own business when Nicole accosted her and grabbed her.
She sure wasn't minding her own business when she was eavesdropping on Daniel and Nicole's conversation while deciding to go tattle to Eric about what she heard. Nicole is in the wrong but that doesn't make Jennifer anymore likable.
I found her quite a bit more likable because of the things she said to Nicole today. Also, it was wrong of Daniel and Nicole to keep Eric in the dark for so long and I'm glad someone finally told him the truth. It clearly wasn't ever going to be Nicole, and Daniel was way too trusting of Nicole to ever make sure she told the truth.
The fact she didn't confront Nicole with what she knew makes me question Jen's motivation. Add in the conversation she and Eric had about insecurity and jealousy over Danicole's friendship -- it's not a big leap to think Nicole was right in what she said about Jennifer being jealous.

I was trying to think of people to swap out so I could say "if it was so-and-so who knew something, (s)he would have told the person to tell the truth or else" before telling the person her/himself, but I'm hard-pressed to come up with another pair of couples that have the same WTF friendship that Dannifer/Ericole do (or did). Let's use Haiden/Dannifer (sorry, Haiden fans) as an example -- if Aiden was hiding something from Hope and Haiden was together and happy, I have trouble seeing Jen just running straight to Hope without giving Aiden a chance to tell her himself for the sake of Haiden's relationship and because Aiden would owe Hope that much. If he hedged, she would have given him an ultimatum. She wouldn't have seized upon it as an excuse to crush Aiden.

If it wasn't personal for Jen or if it had been anyone but Nicole, I think Jen would have gone to the person and said, "look, I overheard what you said to Daniel. Either spill it or I will. You owe him that." But the last few weeks have shown Jen to be insecure about Dan and uneasy about her friendship with Nicole and, truthfully, Jen is only happy to be Nicole's friend when Nicole is rah-rahing about how great Dannifer is and how perfect they are together.
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Mitchapalooza
Jun 9 2014, 02:10 PM
It is obvious Eric & Jennifer is going to happen.....prepare yourselves for the most BORING couple in the history of television.
I almost hate to say this, but I think I might rather have Snoozefest Jeneric than Fetch 24/7 full of its angst ad nauseum.
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fundays13
Jun 9 2014, 05:54 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 04:32 PM
fundays13
Jun 9 2014, 04:24 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 04:10 PM
Does anyone know when the writers are wrapping up this storyline?
Corday seemed to imply they were a quandrangle during summer preview rundown,so probably at least through July.

Im convinced eve plays a big part with daniel,at least initially. Shes suppose to bring him trouble and dont believe any longer she is someone from his past.
That is torture for us viewers. We have to wait another month :([/quhote]Maybe they will be over sooner. Certain spoilers say jen is going to be sued over Jack's book soon . And if eve is going to give dan trouble,they both will be too busy to interfere in nicole's life anymore
I haven't seen Eve on Days yet. That sounds interesting. How is Jen's diseased husband's book her fault lol that sounds like a bizarre storyline but anything to get Dan and Jennifer away from Nicole and Eric is a plus in my book
Edited by DaysAddiction, Jun 9 2014, 06:03 PM.
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DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 06:00 PM
fundays13
Jun 9 2014, 05:54 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 04:32 PM
fundays13
Jun 9 2014, 04:24 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
That is torture for us viewers. We have to wait another month :([/quhote]Maybe they will be over sooner. Certain spoilers say jen is going to be sued over Jack's book soon . And if eve is going to give dan trouble,they both will be too busy to interfere in nicole's life anymore
I haven't seen Eve on Days yet. That sounds interesting. How is Jen's diseased husband's book her fault lol that sounds like a bizarre storyline but anything to get Dan and Jennifer away from Nicole and Eric is a plus in my book
If that one is true,the writers are really stretching for stories.
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concerned
Jun 9 2014, 05:44 PM
six
Jun 9 2014, 02:08 PM
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Jun 9 2014, 01:56 PM
six
Jun 9 2014, 01:42 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
She sure wasn't minding her own business when she was eavesdropping on Daniel and Nicole's conversation while deciding to go tattle to Eric about what she heard. Nicole is in the wrong but that doesn't make Jennifer anymore likable.
I found her quite a bit more likable because of the things she said to Nicole today. Also, it was wrong of Daniel and Nicole to keep Eric in the dark for so long and I'm glad someone finally told him the truth. It clearly wasn't ever going to be Nicole, and Daniel was way too trusting of Nicole to ever make sure she told the truth.
How long did Daniel keep Eric in the dark for. ( In Salem days)
I'm not sure how many "Salem Days", but Daniel discovered the papers on the 8th or 9th of May.
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DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 05:51 PM
PALMommy
Jun 9 2014, 05:32 PM
Honeybees
Jun 9 2014, 11:25 AM

Paige runs into her friend at the club.

Is is wrong that I found Paige's friend more exciting than Paige? let's hear more about Princeton. ^_^
I liked Paige today. She goes you purposely spilled coffee on me and what the hell are you putting in my purse. She wasn't buying any of his bullshit
I have to admit I do like that she doesn't seemed fooled by anyone's BS. I'm just not caring at all about her character - kinda how I feel about (or don't feel) about Ben and Jordan.
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PALMommy
Jun 9 2014, 06:11 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 05:51 PM
PALMommy
Jun 9 2014, 05:32 PM
Honeybees
Jun 9 2014, 11:25 AM

Paige runs into her friend at the club.

Is is wrong that I found Paige's friend more exciting than Paige? let's hear more about Princeton. ^_^
I liked Paige today. She goes you purposely spilled coffee on me and what the hell are you putting in my purse. She wasn't buying any of his bullshit
I have to admit I do like that she doesn't seemed fooled by anyone's BS. I'm just not caring at all about her character - kinda how I feel about (or don't feel) about Ben and Jordan.
We don't know much about Ben and Jordan's story other than Jordan loves Rafe and Ben likes Abigail. :blulaugh: we know Jordan had multiple names but we still don't know the reason
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Jun 9 2014, 05:44 PM
six
Jun 9 2014, 02:08 PM
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Jun 9 2014, 01:56 PM
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Jun 9 2014, 01:42 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
She sure wasn't minding her own business when she was eavesdropping on Daniel and Nicole's conversation while deciding to go tattle to Eric about what she heard. Nicole is in the wrong but that doesn't make Jennifer anymore likable.
I found her quite a bit more likable because of the things she said to Nicole today. Also, it was wrong of Daniel and Nicole to keep Eric in the dark for so long and I'm glad someone finally told him the truth. It clearly wasn't ever going to be Nicole, and Daniel was way too trusting of Nicole to ever make sure she told the truth.
How long did Daniel keep Eric in the dark for. ( In Salem days)
I'm not sure exactly how long it was, but I know it was too long.

Ophelia
Jun 9 2014, 05:59 PM
six
Jun 9 2014, 02:08 PM
Not Amused
Jun 9 2014, 01:56 PM
six
Jun 9 2014, 01:42 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
She sure wasn't minding her own business when she was eavesdropping on Daniel and Nicole's conversation while deciding to go tattle to Eric about what she heard. Nicole is in the wrong but that doesn't make Jennifer anymore likable.
I found her quite a bit more likable because of the things she said to Nicole today. Also, it was wrong of Daniel and Nicole to keep Eric in the dark for so long and I'm glad someone finally told him the truth. It clearly wasn't ever going to be Nicole, and Daniel was way too trusting of Nicole to ever make sure she told the truth.
The fact she didn't confront Nicole with what she knew makes me question Jen's motivation. Add in the conversation she and Eric had about insecurity and jealousy over Danicole's friendship -- it's not a big leap to think Nicole was right in what she said about Jennifer being jealous.

I was trying to think of people to swap out so I could say "if it was so-and-so who knew something, (s)he would have told the person to tell the truth or else" before telling the person her/himself, but I'm hard-pressed to come up with another pair of couples that have the same WTF friendship that Dannifer/Ericole do (or did). Let's use Haiden/Dannifer (sorry, Haiden fans) as an example -- if Aiden was hiding something from Hope and Haiden was together and happy, I have trouble seeing Jen just running straight to Hope without giving Aiden a chance to tell her himself for the sake of Haiden's relationship and because Aiden would owe Hope that much. If he hedged, she would have given him an ultimatum. She wouldn't have seized upon it as an excuse to crush Aiden.

If it wasn't personal for Jen or if it had been anyone but Nicole, I think Jen would have gone to the person and said, "look, I overheard what you said to Daniel. Either spill it or I will. You owe him that." But the last few weeks have shown Jen to be insecure about Dan and uneasy about her friendship with Nicole and, truthfully, Jen is only happy to be Nicole's friend when Nicole is rah-rahing about how great Dannifer is and how perfect they are together.

I don't think we can just swap characters like that, unless we're also swapping character traits. In this scenario, is Aiden a dishonest person who'll go to any length to deceive Hope? Does Jennifer overhear that Aiden has been given multiple chances to come clean and has instead chosen to cover up his lie with another lie? I'll concede that Jennifer wasn't being a very good friend to Nicole when she went behind her back and told Eric the truth, but I don't think it necessarily follows that Jen is jealous. She could have also realized that it's better not to have any friends than to have a friend like Nicole and that confronting Nicole would only give her another chance to think up another way to mislead Eric into thinking she really had his best interest at heart.
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PALMommy
Jun 9 2014, 06:11 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 9 2014, 05:51 PM
PALMommy
Jun 9 2014, 05:32 PM
Honeybees
Jun 9 2014, 11:25 AM

Paige runs into her friend at the club.

Is is wrong that I found Paige's friend more exciting than Paige? let's hear more about Princeton. ^_^
I liked Paige today. She goes you purposely spilled coffee on me and what the hell are you putting in my purse. She wasn't buying any of his bullshit
I have to admit I do like that she doesn't seemed fooled by anyone's BS. I'm just not caring at all about her character - kinda how I feel about (or don't feel) about Ben and Jordan.
For me, the signs that a writing regime has irretrievably Gone South include 1)repeating the same basic plots/scenarios over a 6-12 month period; 2)continuing to push stories and pairings that still haven't taken off after months or even years of trying; 3) constantly hitting the reset button so a stale status quo is preserved; and 4)introducing a slew of new characters all at once and insisting that we invest in them without giving us a reason to care.

Based on these criteria, TomSell are long overdue for the axe.
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