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Tuesday, June 10th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 10 2014, 01:46 AM (18,946 Views)
am103
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I disagree, Sami. The scenes leading up to the Murder Coven dumping Nick's body in the river were HILARIOUS!

Okay. I forgot how awesome Kate vs. Marlena was!
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Mr_Joe


LOVING these scenes with Sami, Kate, and Marlena!
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Julie (about EJ): "I can't do this if he's in the room!" Lol. I worship this woman.

Daniel: "Nicole, I have been a friend to you in every way." :rolleyes:
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am103
Jun 10 2014, 12:21 PM
Julie (about EJ): "I can't do this if he's in the room!" Lol. I worship this woman.

LOL. EJ's eye roll was funny too. :blulaugh:
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Marlena is dragging Kate & Sami (mostly Kate) for filth & I AM HERE!
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am103
Jun 10 2014, 12:21 PM
Julie (about EJ): "I can't do this if he's in the room!" Lol. I worship this woman.

Daniel: "Nicole, I have been a friend to you in every way." :rolleyes:
EJ's eye roll was funny too. Actually, young Julie and EJ would have been hot together.
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Julie throwing shade at EJ. Why are we not using this woman (aka "The First Lady of Salem") more?
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cryin4days
Jun 10 2014, 12:04 PM
Honeybees
Jun 10 2014, 11:59 AM
nananana7
Jun 10 2014, 11:56 AM
Honeybees
Jun 10 2014, 11:48 AM
Julie doesn't understand. Gabi articulates that she felt like she was in a suffocating grip. Gabi apologizes and Julie doesn't get it and says I hope you hate yourself for the rest of your life. Julie takes no stock in her own delusions.

If Julie had an emotional attachment to Nick, it follows that she'd be angry at his killer without knowing ANY of the story.

But once Julie learns of the abuse, she should at least consider the fact that Gabi felt cornered. She might not agree with Gabi killing Nick, She might not forgive it. But she should understand it.

Julie is supposed to have a brain.

Edited for grammar/clarity.
Exactly. Gabi had not right to kill Nick, but Julie repeatedly pushed Gabi at man who abused her and blackmailed her. Hope's response is appropriate because she doesn't excuse the killing but she understands that Nick's behavior was a huge factor.
When Nick came back from "New York", Julie actually warned him to stay away from Gabi.
That was once. There were multiple times that she went all starry eyed about their great love, including after Nick was dead. I don't blame SSH for the writing, but the Julie Williams I've known over the years wasn't prone to denial.
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Matt
Jun 10 2014, 12:24 PM
Julie throwing shade at EJ. Why are we not using this woman (aka "The First Lady of Salem") more?
She would end up being another Dr. Douche worshiper.
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Jun 10 2014, 11:29 AM
Honeybees
Jun 10 2014, 11:24 AM
Kate and Sami say they were trying to help Gabi. Marlena says that you two convinced that girl to do something stupid. She says they have poor judgment. Kate says you showed that video of your son having sex to the whole congregation.

GMAB Kate. Marlena had no idea that Eric was on the tape. Gabi's life is ruined because of the mess they dragged her into at the river.
It seems like people forget that or just like to ignore it. Marlena had no idea what exactly was on that tape because Victor (who literally no one is blaming at all) manipulated her and the situation. She was told it was proof Kristen had cheated on Brady, not that her son was raped.
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*DYING*! Kate/Sami bicker. Marlena: "I cannot believe what I'm hearing out of you clowns"
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bah! "You're not going to sell me down the river" "Can we not say 'river'" bwahahaha
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KAM


LOL at Marlena to Kami: 'I can't believe what I'm hearing from you clowns.' :blulaugh:
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Marlena calling Sami and Kate "clowns". :teehee: These scenes are delicious.

I have a feeling these Julie/Gabi scenes are going to be SO good!
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I have to give props to the script today. There's some REALLY nice dialog in today's episode
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Jun 10 2014, 12:06 PM
Julie has a right to be angry and to say Gabi doesn't deserve a second change either. Good god! Nick was her FAMILY..Gabi is NOT. And Nick didn't have to die! He was murdered to cover up others crimes. If ANY of them were so terrified of the so called master abuser one of them would have went to the police, simple as that. If Nick deserved to die..I can name you TONS of others on the show who deserve it too.
Nobody has said Gabi had a right to kill Nick (except Kate, who knew a little about domestic abuse).

Nick was given more than one chance. He was on at least his second and third. He pissed all his chances away. I haven't seen one of the Nick apologists mention that not one of Nick's victims ever did a single thing to him (up until the River) and he was forgiven by many of the people he victimized.

However, I do agree that EVERYONE, including Julie and Hope, could have stopped the Nick situation from escalating had they refused to take his blackmail or seen him for what he was. As far as I'm concerned, everyone should have done things differently and Gabi wouldn't have felt so helpless. Which is why it's called mitigating circumstances.
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ladyofthelake
Jun 10 2014, 11:34 AM
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Jun 10 2014, 11:30 AM
Jennifer is all sad that she and Nicole worked hard to be friends and Nicole feels attacked. What she did was an attack. Eric looks at her with pity.

Daniel says it doesn't matter who told Eric. He would have done it if Jenn-Jenn didn't do it. Nicole says Jennifer certainly thought it was the right thing. She's pissed.
Dammit, she IS being attacked and ganged up on. Seriously, it's between her and Eric.
Honestly... why are Dannifer making this their beeswax? Oh wait... Honestly, it IS between Nicole and Eric. It's their relationship and while I agree that Daniel had a right to push Nicole to tell the truth or even... tell Eric the truth as Eric's friend (if you wanna buy him as anyone's anything), the truth is now out and they all know Nicole wasn't doing this as an act of revenge or just because. Eric gets to be in her face because she ruined their relationship, but Dannifer need to go far away (as a general rule) and give it time. They can be there for Eric after, when he needs it, but she didn't do this maliciously.
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Edited by Laufeyson, Jun 10 2014, 12:35 PM.
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YAY! Nicole: "Well you are dead to me, Daniel. You and Jennifer."
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Honeybees
Jun 10 2014, 12:30 PM
KweenBoda
Jun 10 2014, 12:06 PM
Julie has a right to be angry and to say Gabi doesn't deserve a second change either. Good god! Nick was her FAMILY..Gabi is NOT. And Nick didn't have to die! He was murdered to cover up others crimes. If ANY of them were so terrified of the so called master abuser one of them would have went to the police, simple as that. If Nick deserved to die..I can name you TONS of others on the show who deserve it too.
Nobody has said Gabi had a right to kill Nick (except Kate, who knew a little about domestic abuse).

Nick was given more than one chance. He was on at least his second and third. He pissed all his chances away. I haven't seen one of the Nick apologists mention that not one of Nick's victims ever did a single thing to him (up until the River) and he was forgiven by many of the people he victimized.

However, I do agree that EVERYONE, including Julie and Hope, could have stopped the Nick situation from escalating had they refused to take his blackmail or seen him for what he was. As far as I'm concerned, everyone should have done things differently and Gabi wouldn't have felt so helpless. Which is why it's called mitigating circumstances.
And I am sorry but I don't see her as this helpless victim. She sure wasn't helpless in her crime against Melanie. But I do believe they ALL bear some responsibility in his death. Each were being blackmailed by him and could have stopped it by going to the police. The truth would have come out and he would have gotten into some kind of trouble himself. As a side note: I hate the fact they killed him off. I LOVE Blake Berris and had hoped he would have come back..redeemed somehow.
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