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Thursday, June 12th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 12 2014, 12:32 AM (13,312 Views)
WilSonJAb33
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nananana7
Jun 12 2014, 05:56 PM
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Hope - Nick made a lot of people angry.
Julie - Why are you making excuses for everyone! Who's side on you on!
Hope - Julie, I am devastated that Nick's dead. Can't you see that! But we can't pretend that Nick was innocent in all this. I don't see how a long, drawn out trial is going to help anyone.
(from PatNS' recap.)

Thank you, Hope!
exactly I had to :applause: Hope for point out what she come to learn in her investigation that Nick wasn't some innocent Victim. Hope didn't realize until the investigation just how disturbed Nick was or just how much help he need... Hope had tons of guilt for not seeing it but the way she turn it around when phrasing it to Julie should have hit home for Julie is a way it didn't the only reason Julie kept her mouth shut was that Nick's parent and grandmother knew what would happen in a trail...
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Gabi and her glorious hair are off to prison. Goodbye, Gabs! Despite everything I'll miss you.
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am103
Jun 12 2014, 06:03 PM
In my opinion, Guy Wilson has much more chemistry with Freddie Smith than Chandler Massey ever did. But on the flip side, Guy Wilson just doesn't click with the members of Will's family the way Chandler Massey did. I'm hoping that changes the longer GW stays with the show and grows into the role of Will.
I kinda agree with this. I don't think it's that he doesn't exactly click with any of Will's family, it's just that it's a different vibe with them, imo. I really liked Will's scenes with Marlena and Kate around the time of the wedding. I thought they were wonderful then. Will and Sonny definitely have a different vibe too but I'm certainly not complaining because I'm finally buying that Will really is honestly and truly in love with Sonny. Like you, I'm hoping that there is more consistency between Will and his family members as time goes on.
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nananana7
Jun 12 2014, 06:00 PM
Rosebud
Jun 12 2014, 12:31 PM
I'm probably not remembering correctly, but didn't Kate live under a false name at one time, while trying to avoid Curtis? Wonder why she never considers Jordan could be in a similar situation.
Good question!
Well, her LAST name was different (Winograd?), but she's always gone by Kate. Unless someone is calling her Katerina or Katherine - idiot Dimeras.
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Jun 12 2014, 06:26 PM
nananana7
Jun 12 2014, 06:00 PM
Rosebud
Jun 12 2014, 12:31 PM
I'm probably not remembering correctly, but didn't Kate live under a false name at one time, while trying to avoid Curtis? Wonder why she never considers Jordan could be in a similar situation.
Good question!
Well, her LAST name was different (Winograd?), but she's always gone by Kate. Unless someone is calling her Katerina or Katherine - idiot Dimeras.
Kate Winograd isn't the same Kate though. Kate W. was a doctor.
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jam6242
Jun 12 2014, 06:33 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 06:26 PM
nananana7
Jun 12 2014, 06:00 PM
Rosebud
Jun 12 2014, 12:31 PM
I'm probably not remembering correctly, but didn't Kate live under a false name at one time, while trying to avoid Curtis? Wonder why she never considers Jordan could be in a similar situation.
Good question!
Well, her LAST name was different (Winograd?), but she's always gone by Kate. Unless someone is calling her Katerina or Katherine - idiot Dimeras.
Kate Winograd isn't the same Kate though. Kate W. was a doctor.
Didn't they retcon Kate to be the Winograd one?
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

Lord I can't deal with Brady anymore..Sami such a bully :ermm:
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Jun 12 2014, 06:44 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 06:33 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 06:26 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 06:00 PM

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Well, her LAST name was different (Winograd?), but she's always gone by Kate. Unless someone is calling her Katerina or Katherine - idiot Dimeras.
Kate Winograd isn't the same Kate though. Kate W. was a doctor.
Didn't they retcon Kate to be the Winograd one?
I think they retconned to erase Kate Winograd from Days history, lol. I don't see how they could be the same. Plus, I believe Jason47 discovered that Kate Winograd had a different first name, or something of that kind, is that right Jason?
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jam6242
Jun 12 2014, 07:12 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 06:44 PM
jam6242
Jun 12 2014, 06:33 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 06:26 PM

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Kate Winograd isn't the same Kate though. Kate W. was a doctor.
Didn't they retcon Kate to be the Winograd one?
I think they retconned to erase Kate Winograd from Days history, lol. I don't see how they could be the same. Plus, I believe Jason47 discovered that Kate Winograd had a different first name, or something of that kind, is that right Jason?
Well, whatever the case maybe, I know multiple people believe that the show rearranged and retconned so the two Kates were the same around the time Lucas was revealed to be a Horton. I wasn't watching at the time, but I've seen that said many times.
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JoeBucs32
Jun 12 2014, 11:29 AM
Doe-eyed guttersnipe? I love it!
According to Bill, Susan came up with the "doe-eyed" bit! :blulaugh:

@thacker001u
@DaysHayes @barrowshome "What was it u called Gabi today? Doe eyed gutter what? Cracked me up. Was it script or did u make it up? Lol"

@DaysHayes
@thacker001u @barrowshome The actress contributed "doe-eyed."
https://twitter.com/DaysHayes/status/477236864206651392


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Jun 12 2014, 12:55 PM
I honestly don't believe Kate and Sami are setting up the Dimera men. Kate might be that smart..but Sami?! Please! LOL


I don't know how long you have been watching the show. But original recipe Sami is among the best schemers in Salem. She was smart enough to take on Kate, Carrie, Lucas, Nicole, Austin. Lexie, my personal favorite Ej and last but not least the all mighty Victor K. My girl lived to tell tale about it. Sure it always blows up in her face LOL in the end, but that is true for everyone in Salem.

Id old school Sami teams up with Kate, she should be able to pull this off in her sleep and I fully expect it to blow up in their faces too just like old times.
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Jun 12 2014, 04:19 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 04:05 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 03:57 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 03:51 PM

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Yeah well, that's true. . . maybe it was/is wishful thinking on my part. I'm tired of Teresa's boring, druggie, bad influence character.
I can't see Kim ever having such a polite talk with Victor. The last time she and Victor were in the same room, after Shawn's death, she made it clear that she still despises him.

For clarification, Kim slept with Victor in Miami. At the time, Victor was holding her captive and was going to force her to leave the country with him. Shane, an ISA agent, was trying to get information on Victor and got locked in a room in Victor's mansion. Victor planned to kill Shane when the room unlocked, so Kim slept with him to give Shane a chance to escape. Later, among other things Victor did to make Kim's and Shane's lives hell, Victor had Kim's past as a prostitute published in the Salem newspapers to try to force her to give up custody of Andrew. That was something Kim had only revealed to Bo and Marlena (and something Shane had discovered).
Wow, Victor sounds like he was a far worst person than Nick. Why aren't other characters walking around dissing him like they do Theresa or Nicole?
Victor, like Stefano, has been neutered over time. When he first arrived in Salem, he was running a drug ring and a lot of other illegal activities. He repeatedly tried to have numerous Salemites killed -- Shane (multiple times in Miami and later put out a hit on him), Melissa and Pete, Steve, and nearly killed Bo (also multiple times and even after learning Bo was his son), Hope. Victor killed Petrov, who took over Stefano's operation when he was believed dead. Victor also forced Larry Welch to take the fall for his drug crimes and framed Shane for treason. So, yeah, he was a really bad guy.

By giving him a past with Caroline and then making him Bo's father, the writers gave Victor more depth. But for years, they kept the nasty edge. When the DiMeras and Kiriakises went to war, you could believe that two crime families really were squaring off and that there would be casualties.

However, in recent years, Victor has become more like someone's grumpy uncle. Still, the idea that Maggie would believe Victor had reformed is ludicrous. He tried to have her daughter killed by sending a hit man after her, for god's sake. That she would ever marry him is absurd -- as is the fact that we didn't have her family in an uproar over the marriage.
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Jun 12 2014, 04:19 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 04:05 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 03:57 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 03:51 PM

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Yeah well, that's true. . . maybe it was/is wishful thinking on my part. I'm tired of Teresa's boring, druggie, bad influence character.
I can't see Kim ever having such a polite talk with Victor. The last time she and Victor were in the same room, after Shawn's death, she made it clear that she still despises him.

For clarification, Kim slept with Victor in Miami. At the time, Victor was holding her captive and was going to force her to leave the country with him. Shane, an ISA agent, was trying to get information on Victor and got locked in a room in Victor's mansion. Victor planned to kill Shane when the room unlocked, so Kim slept with him to give Shane a chance to escape. Later, among other things Victor did to make Kim's and Shane's lives hell, Victor had Kim's past as a prostitute published in the Salem newspapers to try to force her to give up custody of Andrew. That was something Kim had only revealed to Bo and Marlena (and something Shane had discovered).
Wow, Victor sounds like he was a far worst person than Nick. Why aren't other characters walking around dissing him like they do Theresa or Nicole?
Because now he's a watered-down neutered wuss and the worst thing he does these days is slut-shaming any woman involved with one of his male relatives.

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Will&Sonny
Jun 12 2014, 05:13 PM
sillibella
Jun 12 2014, 05:05 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 04:51 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 04:32 PM

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I just think (know) that Chandler would have done a much better job with these scenes. Guy Wilson doesn't "bother" me, per se -- I've never been impressed with him, but he doesn't annoy me (or worse) like Blake Berris did, and I don't blame him for the fact that Chandler is gone, nor do I begrudge him for taking over the role -- but there's no real emotion in his performance. When I watch Gabi talk to Will about everything they've been through together, it just rings hollow, because she's not talking to the person she went through those things with -- she's just talking to some guy (no pun intended, I promise), and it's like that guy doesn't even know what she's talking about. He goes through the motions and does a passable, inoffensive job, but there's just no depth or emotional connection to it at all. He's just not Will. He's just some guy. And on days like today or the day of Will and Sonny's wedding, that issue is especially obvious and especially difficult to handle.
I definitely don't miss Chandler on the days where it's Gabi and Will scenes together. They had a weird vibe together and Sonny would pretty much disappear with Will when they were all together.
I never got that impression. I also never saw anything from Chandler that I would have described as "an annoying smirk", nor do I agree with the suggestions that he was always uncomfortable displaying intimacy in scenes with Freddie Smith. (Not that you brought either of those up, of course -- I'm just listing the usual complaints that crop up about him on this site.) But I do realize that we all see things differently. My opinion is that Chandler "got" Will much better than Guy ever has.
Chandler had a habit of smiling at the most inopportune times there for a while. At one point, James ad libbed "quit smiling or 'this isn't something to smile about" in a scene they had together.
Edited by daysjahvu, Jun 12 2014, 07:43 PM.
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jwsel
Jun 12 2014, 07:28 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 03:57 PM

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I can't see Kim ever having such a polite talk with Victor. The last time she and Victor were in the same room, after Shawn's death, she made it clear that she still despises him.

For clarification, Kim slept with Victor in Miami. At the time, Victor was holding her captive and was going to force her to leave the country with him. Shane, an ISA agent, was trying to get information on Victor and got locked in a room in Victor's mansion. Victor planned to kill Shane when the room unlocked, so Kim slept with him to give Shane a chance to escape. Later, among other things Victor did to make Kim's and Shane's lives hell, Victor had Kim's past as a prostitute published in the Salem newspapers to try to force her to give up custody of Andrew. That was something Kim had only revealed to Bo and Marlena (and something Shane had discovered).
Wow, Victor sounds like he was a far worst person than Nick. Why aren't other characters walking around dissing him like they do Theresa or Nicole?
Victor, like Stefano, has been neutered over time. When he first arrived in Salem, he was running a drug ring and a lot of other illegal activities. He repeatedly tried to have numerous Salemites killed -- Shane (multiple times in Miami and later put out a hit on him), Melissa and Pete, Steve, and nearly killed Bo (also multiple times and even after learning Bo was his son), Hope. Victor killed Petrov, who took over Stefano's operation when he was believed dead. Victor also forced Larry Welch to take the fall for his drug crimes and framed Shane for treason. So, yeah, he was a really bad guy.

By giving him a past with Caroline and then making him Bo's father, the writers gave Victor more depth. But for years, they kept the nasty edge. When the DiMeras and Kiriakises went to war, you could believe that two crime families really were squaring off and that there would be casualties.

However, in recent years, Victor has become more like someone's grumpy uncle. Still, the idea that Maggie would believe Victor had reformed is ludicrous. He tried to have her daughter killed by sending a hit man after her, for god's sake. That she would ever marry him is absurd -- as is the fact that we didn't have her family in an uproar over the marriage.
He also tried to kill John and Marlena, and Shane, Bo and Hope in West Virginia. And RoJohn was always tangling with him.
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Linda Kay
Jun 12 2014, 02:14 PM
on my local station, days is preempted for the us open. is this happening anywhere else?
It was mentioned somewhere that due to the U.S. Open coverage that Days would air at different times in the Central and Pacific timezones today and tomorrow. I know for me personally (in Oregon) I usually see Days at 1pm but today and tomorrow it will be at 11am. Check with your local station or if your service provider has a programming guide, you should be able to scroll through and find out what time Days will air.
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Argh. My podunk NBC station decided to not air either episode Thursday or Friday. Life is Media Market #150 sucks.
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sillibella
Jun 12 2014, 06:20 PM
am103
Jun 12 2014, 06:03 PM
In my opinion, Guy Wilson has much more chemistry with Freddie Smith than Chandler Massey ever did. But on the flip side, Guy Wilson just doesn't click with the members of Will's family the way Chandler Massey did. I'm hoping that changes the longer GW stays with the show and grows into the role of Will.
I kinda agree with this. I don't think it's that he doesn't exactly click with any of Will's family, it's just that it's a different vibe with them, imo. I really liked Will's scenes with Marlena and Kate around the time of the wedding. I thought they were wonderful then. Will and Sonny definitely have a different vibe too but I'm certainly not complaining because I'm finally buying that Will really is honestly and truly in love with Sonny. Like you, I'm hoping that there is more consistency between Will and his family members as time goes on.
Guy's Will stands up to Sami in a way that Chandler's Will never did... He making point to Sami when he doesn't agree with Sami it not knock down drag out verbal matchs with Will screaming at Sami (as we saw with Chandler's Will) There seem to be more understand that Will and adult for Lucas with Guy's Will that we didn't quiet see with Lucas when seen with Chandler's Will (even when he got past his struggle with know (Lucas did) what he son being gay really meant). Lucas has more respect for Will NOW then before and it not that Lucas didn't respect he son some how with Guy Will it just show more in Lucas and Will's scenes

The chemistry that show between Guy and Freddie is obvious is why the more adult version of Will works with Guy in the role. I agree with you there is still a way to go with some of the family but I can't help if that more the switch to writing a more mature Will more so that Guy's acting... Will truly love Sonny yes, at it can be seen.

Julie need more consistency with family who's name in not her dead cousin Nick. Because Nick doesn't belong on the pestal that Julie's put him on. She has ever right to mourn his death however she has no right to treat ever other family member like crap.
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Jun 12 2014, 07:48 PM
Linda Kay
Jun 12 2014, 02:14 PM
on my local station, days is preempted for the us open. is this happening anywhere else?
It was mentioned somewhere that due to the U.S. Open coverage that Days would air at different times in the Central and Pacific timezones today and tomorrow. I know for me personally (in Oregon) I usually see Days at 1pm but today and tomorrow it will be at 11am. Check with your local station or if your service provider has a programming guide, you should be able to scroll through and find out what time Days will air.
I live in IL and it aired normal time her central time zone at 11Am
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The most annoying part of Will's sweater was the fact that this episode aired in JUNE! It's like Jennifer's sleeveless winter dresses. I get that these scenes were taped in February-ish, but no one in wardrobe has the sense to remember seasons?

I was looking forward to seeing Judge Jim Walsh from 90210 for Gabi's sentencing, but I suppose it makes sense that that didn't need to be an on-camera event.

Victor, you're alive!! And apparently Ben doesn't have to worry about Julie shafting him on a tip, because Victor's got to be tipping him well after that exchange.

So Rafe is now Brady's only friend? The doctor for whom Brady went temporarily sober isn't on that list? Not that he needed mentioning, but that seemed odd...
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