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Thursday, June 12th Daily Discussion
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I can buy Jordan and Ben as a brother and sister...they have matching eyebrows.
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Jun 12 2014, 09:31 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 08:32 PM
Thanks, Will & Sonny for responding to my question.

About Chandler, I love Chandler and I really miss him. But I also like Guy.

I disagree with some of my fellow WilSonites who say Chandler had no chemistry with Freddie. I think they had a great chemistry. But Will was much younger and way less experienced than Sonny. It made sense for to be tentative and little shy. But I really liked the subtle and gentle ways they showed affection. Chandler was always touching Freddie or looking at him. I liked that. It was believable for that stage in the relationship. With Guy, I can believe that they have an equal relationship and that Will is sexually mature now.

Having said that, I think Chandler would've shown more emotions today. Chandler's Will was all emotions. Guy's Will is more of a stiff upper lip kinda guy. I am not sure if that's the direction or the actors choice. I like it most times, but today, I wanted lots of emotions and I didn't get that.
There were things I really liked about Chandler and things I really like about Guy. I too would like to see a little more emotion from Guy's Will. I agree with the stiff upper lip/stoic thing and assumed it was Guy choosing to play it that way but as you pointed out it could be the director requesting that. I too would have liked to have seen more emotion out of Will today.

I mentioned in a LJ post that I would love to see a scene were that night Will falls apart and breaks down in Sonny's arms and Sonny comforts him. I think it would fit well with the "put a brave face on in public but break down in private" attitude they might be going with with Will.

I will be really curious to see how Guy does with a storyline that doesn't revolve around Nick and Gabi! If you've not seen Guy in "Werewolf: The Beast Among Us," I highly recommend it (especially if you are a Guy fan like me.) I was pretty impressed with Guy. It is a horror film so it's pretty gory but it really shows what Guy is capable of.

As for the 'smirk' that Chandler often did, especially towards the end of his run- I have been know to smirk/smile at inappropriate times myself. I tend to be a nervous/anxious person and I think that is why I do it and I can't really help it when I do it. It might be the same with him. Just a thought.
I agree about the smiling/smirking at inappropriate times - I have found myself doing that too. While telling a sad story or talking of someone dying or seriously ill, I find myself smiling or grinning and I do not understand why I do it. It is just something that happens.
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Jun 12 2014, 11:12 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 09:31 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 08:32 PM
Thanks, Will & Sonny for responding to my question.

About Chandler, I love Chandler and I really miss him. But I also like Guy.

I disagree with some of my fellow WilSonites who say Chandler had no chemistry with Freddie. I think they had a great chemistry. But Will was much younger and way less experienced than Sonny. It made sense for to be tentative and little shy. But I really liked the subtle and gentle ways they showed affection. Chandler was always touching Freddie or looking at him. I liked that. It was believable for that stage in the relationship. With Guy, I can believe that they have an equal relationship and that Will is sexually mature now.

Having said that, I think Chandler would've shown more emotions today. Chandler's Will was all emotions. Guy's Will is more of a stiff upper lip kinda guy. I am not sure if that's the direction or the actors choice. I like it most times, but today, I wanted lots of emotions and I didn't get that.
There were things I really liked about Chandler and things I really like about Guy. I too would like to see a little more emotion from Guy's Will. I agree with the stiff upper lip/stoic thing and assumed it was Guy choosing to play it that way but as you pointed out it could be the director requesting that. I too would have liked to have seen more emotion out of Will today.

I mentioned in a LJ post that I would love to see a scene were that night Will falls apart and breaks down in Sonny's arms and Sonny comforts him. I think it would fit well with the "put a brave face on in public but break down in private" attitude they might be going with with Will.

I will be really curious to see how Guy does with a storyline that doesn't revolve around Nick and Gabi! If you've not seen Guy in "Werewolf: The Beast Among Us," I highly recommend it (especially if you are a Guy fan like me.) I was pretty impressed with Guy. It is a horror film so it's pretty gory but it really shows what Guy is capable of.

As for the 'smirk' that Chandler often did, especially towards the end of his run- I have been know to smirk/smile at inappropriate times myself. I tend to be a nervous/anxious person and I think that is why I do it and I can't really help it when I do it. It might be the same with him. Just a thought.
I agree about the smiling/smirking at inappropriate times - I have found myself doing that too. While telling a sad story or talking of someone dying or seriously ill, I find myself smiling or grinning and I do jot understand why I do it. It is just something that happens.
I used to have a colleague (a clinician) who did that when she was nervous. She had to actually do CBT to get rid of it because it was too disconcerting for the patients.

I always thought Will's nervious laughs were deliberate way of conveying discomfort and nervousness. I didn't find it problamatic.
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Kaha
Jun 12 2014, 11:08 PM
I can buy Jordan and Ben as a brother and sister...they have matching eyebrows.
I had that exact same thought when watching them together. RW is a great looking guy but he needs to lay off the tweezers or wax for just a bit.
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What I liked the most about Will was how emotional and caring he was but now, I don't know if we have the writers or the actor to blame for this, this newWill is unable to show any of this, it feels like watching a new character...


Sometimes I hate her... most of the time actually but I'm still going to miss Gabi especially her scenes with baby Ari they really have a lovely mother/daughter chemistry on screen.
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Jun 12 2014, 11:00 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 10:35 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 12:45 PM
How the hell am I supposed to take Will seriously when he's dressed like that?!
Not sure why Will is wearing his grandpa sweater. Shirt and tie would have been fine. Sonny looks nice though.
Maybe Will inherited all of great-grandpa Tom's sweaters.

Did Will start wearing sweaters when he came back from California? Maybe, he's going with the hipster/bohemian look. I know a lot of hipsters who dress like that. Usually, they wear better sweaters though!
He started wearing sweaters before he left for California. He used to wear HOODIES in the past. Since he came back from CA he wore vests. But now it is old man sweaters.

Sonny gets the floral or paisley shirts, and Will gets the sweaters.

Brady who is a businessman gets the tight t-shirts. J.J. gets the tight t-shirts as well.

Then there is Sami and those floral pants. Ugh. I did like the outfit she wore today though.

The comment about Will breaking down in Sonny's arms I am wondering if that might happen next week because spoilers say "Will and Sonny learn to live without Gabi." It is going to sink in real fast that now they are TOTALLY responsible for that little girl now. Before it was three adults pitching in together. Now it will be just the two daddies raising her. Will be interesting to see how they handle the challenges coming up.
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Jun 12 2014, 09:31 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 08:32 PM
Thanks, Will & Sonny for responding to my question.

About Chandler, I love Chandler and I really miss him. But I also like Guy.

I disagree with some of my fellow WilSonites who say Chandler had no chemistry with Freddie. I think they had a great chemistry. But Will was much younger and way less experienced than Sonny. It made sense for to be tentative and little shy. But I really liked the subtle and gentle ways they showed affection. Chandler was always touching Freddie or looking at him. I liked that. It was believable for that stage in the relationship. With Guy, I can believe that they have an equal relationship and that Will is sexually mature now.

Having said that, I think Chandler would've shown more emotions today. Chandler's Will was all emotions. Guy's Will is more of a stiff upper lip kinda guy. I am not sure if that's the direction or the actors choice. I like it most times, but today, I wanted lots of emotions and I didn't get that.
There were things I really liked about Chandler and things I really like about Guy. I too would like to see a little more emotion from Guy's Will. I agree with the stiff upper lip/stoic thing and assumed it was Guy choosing to play it that way but as you pointed out it could be the director requesting that. I too would have liked to have seen more emotion out of Will today.

I mentioned in a LJ post that I would love to see a scene were that night Will falls apart and breaks down in Sonny's arms and Sonny comforts him. I think it would fit well with the "put a brave face on in public but break down in private" attitude they might be going with with Will.

I will be really curious to see how Guy does with a storyline that doesn't revolve around Nick and Gabi! If you've not seen Guy in "Werewolf: The Beast Among Us," I highly recommend it (especially if you are a Guy fan like me.) I was pretty impressed with Guy. It is a horror film so it's pretty gory but it really shows what Guy is capable of.

As for the 'smirk' that Chandler often did, especially towards the end of his run- I have been know to smirk/smile at inappropriate times myself. I tend to be a nervous/anxious person and I think that is why I do it and I can't really help it when I do it. It might be the same with him. Just a thought.
I think Wilson's next storyline will be adjusting to life without Gabi. I think that will be explored for awhile. There was some nice dialogue today about Will not being able to sing and such, and I hope the writers continue to add to detail to their lives. Little things like that flesh out characters and make them likable way more than propping does.

I agree with everything you said about Guy versus Chandler. They both do/did things I like. I'm actually enjoying the stiff upper lip version of Will and can easily see that now that he's a father, Will makes a strong effort to hold his emotions in and today I can totally see why he'd want to hold it together for Ari's sake. Poor kid has to be confused by all the weeping. But I also like the idea of him breaking down late at night with only Sonny around.

Some people thought Wilson were too happy right after Gabi confessed, but I thought it was Sonny who was too happy (but he later showed real sadness). GW played Will as shell-shocked, probably at the possibility of Ari losing her mother and having the wool pulled out from under his martyr stunt.

In any case, it's my hope that Wilson's next big story is on Sonny's side of the family. Not an interloper, but maybe something from Sonny's past surfaces or one of his brothers hits town.

On the subject of Theresa, I actually like the idea that Theresa was going to check on them. They need to do things to humanize Theresa, and if she actually cared about people like Will or Eric in her own way, that would be cool. Maybe she could sweetly offer Will some cocaine to help him deal. I don't want Will to take it, of course. I like Theresa when she's self-destructive and devil-may-care, not when she's pushing around teenagers or being hostile for no reason.
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Jun 12 2014, 11:24 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 12:45 PM
How the hell am I supposed to take Will seriously when he's dressed like that?!
Not sure why Will is wearing his grandpa sweater. Shirt and tie would have been fine. Sonny looks nice though.
Maybe Will inherited all of great-grandpa Tom's sweaters.

Did Will start wearing sweaters when he came back from California? Maybe, he's going with the hipster/bohemian look. I know a lot of hipsters who dress like that. Usually, they wear better sweaters though!
He started wearing sweaters before he left for California. He used to wear HOODIES in the past. Since he came back from CA he wore vests. But now it is old man sweaters.

Sonny gets the floral or paisley shirts, and Will gets the sweaters.

Brady who is a businessman gets the tight t-shirts. J.J. gets the tight t-shirts as well.

Then there is Sami and those floral pants. Ugh. I did like the outfit she wore today though.

The comment about Will breaking down in Sonny's arms I am wondering if that might happen next week because spoilers say "Will and Sonny learn to live without Gabi." It is going to sink in real fast that now they are TOTALLY responsible for that little girl now. Before it was three adults pitching in together. Now it will be just the two daddies raising her. Will be interesting to see how they handle the challenges coming up.
I think the wardrobe people are going for hipster/bohemian style for WilSon but they have bad taste. They have Will wear a striped sweater that's one size and a half small with a checked shirt. That's a majorly bad combo.
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Jun 12 2014, 10:31 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 10:27 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 06:33 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 06:26 PM

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Kate Winograd isn't the same Kate though. Kate W. was a doctor.
It is the same Kate. The writers simply changed some stuff about her character; like they're so prone to do to fit the storyline.
Hasn't Lauren Koslow been pretty emphatic that they're not the same? I think it's similar to Alex North and that professor Marlena slept with. They're based on each other, but not necessarily the same.
:shrug: I'm just referencing what two separate online bios say about Kate's character and regardless of occupations, both bios say Kate Winograd is Lucas' mom, who had an affair in the 70s with Bill Horton. I guess Lauren can say what she wants and the writers can bend the characters to fit the storylines, but sounds like they're one in the same to me. However, I can TOTALLY see if you actually watched backed then that it would bug long time viewers. Gotta love their lack of character continuity, huh?
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It is the same Kate. The writers simply changed some stuff about her character; like they're so prone to do to fit the storyline.
Hasn't Lauren Koslow been pretty emphatic that they're not the same? I think it's similar to Alex North and that professor Marlena slept with. They're based on each other, but not necessarily the same.
:shrug: I'm just referencing what two separate online bios say about Kate's character and regardless of occupations, both bios say Kate Winograd is Lucas' mom, who had an affair in the 70s with Bill Horton. I guess Lauren can say what she wants and the writers can bend the characters to fit the storylines, but sounds like they're one in the same to me. However, I can TOTALLY see if you actually watched backed then that it would bug long time viewers. Gotta love their lack of character continuity, huh?
Oh, I wouldn't go by those on that kind of thing. The show hasn't actually established it, but it's one of those things that many people have long assumed. You should talk to Matt and Jason about it. We've had this conversation many times.
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Jun 12 2014, 12:57 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 12:55 PM
I honestly don't believe Kate and Sami are setting up the Dimera men. Kate might be that smart..but Sami?! Please! LOL
I'm thinking maybe it's just a Kate vs. Stefano operation right now (with Sami helping her out). And then once Sami finds out about EJ's wondering peen, it will become Kami vs. the DiBoys.
I am convinced that Sami knows and she is scheming with Kate. Otherwise, why would Sami care that Stefano is against her wedding? Since when has Sami been afraid of Stefano? It is not like he can keep them from getting married. They are both adults and ej will marry Sami whether stefano wants him to or not. Ej wants to marry Sami more than sami wants to marry him LOL.

On the other hand, I can understand why Ej might be worried if stefano wants to derail the wedding. Ej is well aware that Stefano knows about ejabby and he can tell Sami about it whenever he wants to and ruin the wedding.

Sometimes is not adding up with Kami. It feels they are putting on a show.
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Jun 12 2014, 11:37 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 08:32 PM
Thanks, Will & Sonny for responding to my question.

About Chandler, I love Chandler and I really miss him. But I also like Guy.

I disagree with some of my fellow WilSonites who say Chandler had no chemistry with Freddie. I think they had a great chemistry. But Will was much younger and way less experienced than Sonny. It made sense for to be tentative and little shy. But I really liked the subtle and gentle ways they showed affection. Chandler was always touching Freddie or looking at him. I liked that. It was believable for that stage in the relationship. With Guy, I can believe that they have an equal relationship and that Will is sexually mature now.

Having said that, I think Chandler would've shown more emotions today. Chandler's Will was all emotions. Guy's Will is more of a stiff upper lip kinda guy. I am not sure if that's the direction or the actors choice. I like it most times, but today, I wanted lots of emotions and I didn't get that.
There were things I really liked about Chandler and things I really like about Guy. I too would like to see a little more emotion from Guy's Will. I agree with the stiff upper lip/stoic thing and assumed it was Guy choosing to play it that way but as you pointed out it could be the director requesting that. I too would have liked to have seen more emotion out of Will today.

I mentioned in a LJ post that I would love to see a scene were that night Will falls apart and breaks down in Sonny's arms and Sonny comforts him. I think it would fit well with the "put a brave face on in public but break down in private" attitude they might be going with with Will.

I will be really curious to see how Guy does with a storyline that doesn't revolve around Nick and Gabi! If you've not seen Guy in "Werewolf: The Beast Among Us," I highly recommend it (especially if you are a Guy fan like me.) I was pretty impressed with Guy. It is a horror film so it's pretty gory but it really shows what Guy is capable of.

As for the 'smirk' that Chandler often did, especially towards the end of his run- I have been know to smirk/smile at inappropriate times myself. I tend to be a nervous/anxious person and I think that is why I do it and I can't really help it when I do it. It might be the same with him. Just a thought.
I think Wilson's next storyline will be adjusting to life without Gabi. I think that will be explored for awhile. There was some nice dialogue today about Will not being able to sing and such, and I hope the writers continue to add to detail to their lives. Little things like that flesh out characters and make them likable way more than propping does.

I agree with everything you said about Guy versus Chandler. They both do/did things I like. I'm actually enjoying the stiff upper lip version of Will and can easily see that now that he's a father, Will makes a strong effort to hold his emotions in and today I can totally see why he'd want to hold it together for Ari's sake. Poor kid has to be confused by all the weeping. But I also like the idea of him breaking down late at night with only Sonny around.

Some people thought Wilson were too happy right after Gabi confessed, but I thought it was Sonny who was too happy (but he later showed real sadness). GW played Will as shell-shocked, probably at the possibility of Ari losing her mother and having the wool pulled out from under his martyr stunt.

In any case, it's my hope that Wilson's next big story is on Sonny's side of the family. Not an interloper, but maybe something from Sonny's past surfaces or one of his brothers hits town.

On the subject of Theresa, I actually like the idea that Theresa was going to check on them. They need to do things to humanize Theresa, and if she actually cared about people like Will or Eric in her own way, that would be cool. Maybe she could sweetly offer Will some cocaine to help him deal. I don't want Will to take it, of course. I like Theresa when she's self-destructive and devil-may-care, not when she's pushing around teenagers or being hostile for no reason.
In regards to the bolded, I'm getting the feeling that Victor's appearance at WilSon's today wasn't exactly all that random. That was first time that he has visited their apartment and I definitely think it was for a reason. I agree that WilSon + Ari will probably be shown as being a tight little family which is cute and all but drama is bound to come around and I'm definitely hoping that it's from Sonny's family this time. I have a suspicion that it will be. That being said, I'd still love for Sonny's older brother Alex to come into town and stir things up as well.
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Jun 12 2014, 10:24 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 11:26 AM
You know what I hate about this? Julie has completely forgotten Will and Ari in this, that this baby will grow up without her mother. And like many have said, where has Julie been? Cruising around the world, not there for Nick, really she doesn't know shit but she is there to take Gabi's future away.
Julie thinks 10-20 years in prison is "like paying a parking ticket" and Gabi deserves more time than that. But yet Nick only served 4 years in prison for murder and kidnapping. Julie is too wrapped up in her delusions of her precious Nick worship. She was too annoying in my opinion.
I totally forgot about Julie and Ari. I mean, Julie has always preferred Nick to Will. She's shown time and again that she doesn't give a damn about Will and she was perfectly uninterested in finding out what Nick did to Will. She always dismissed it with her lame "he apologized" excuse. But for her not to think about Ari is just cruel and inexcusable. She didn't even remember that adorable little baby losing her mother.
Actually, that isn't true. What happened was much worse:

Gabi: Ten years away from my baby isn't enough punishment?

Julie: No.

She later made it clear that she hoped that Gabi served "every minute" of the maximum twenty-year sentence.
Edited by Will&Sonny, Jun 13 2014, 01:47 AM.
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Jun 12 2014, 07:04 PM
Lord I can't deal with Brady anymore..Sami such a bully :ermm:
I just noticed we joined this site around the same time ;)
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepannoy me (or worse) like Blake Berris did, and I don't blame him for the fact that Chandler is gone, nor do I begrudge him for taking over the role -- but there's no real emotion in his performance. When I watch Gabi talk to Will about everything they've been through together, it just rings hollow, because she's not talking to the person she went through those things with -- she's just talking to some guy (no pun intended, I promise), and it's like that guy doesn't even know what she's talking about. He goes through the motions and does a passable, inoffensive job, but there's just no depth or emotional connection to it at all. He's just not Will. He's just some guy. And on days like today or the day of Will and Sonny's wedding, that issue is especially obvious and especially difficult to handle.
I definitely don't miss Chandler on the days where it's Gabi and Will scenes together. They had a weird vibe together and Sonny would pretty much disappear with Will when they were all together.
I never got that impression. I also never saw anything from Chandler that I would have described as "an annoying smirk", nor do I agree with the suggestions that he was always uncomfortable displaying intimacy in scenes with Freddie Smith. (Not that you brought either of those up, of course -- I'm just listing the usual complaints that crop up about him on this site.) But I do realize that we all see things differently. My opinion is that Chandler "got" Will much better than Guy ever has.
Chandler had a habit of smiling at the most inopportune times there for a while. At one point, James ad libbed "quit smiling or 'this isn't something to smile about" in a scene they had together.
It's not that I never saw this, it's just that I don't feel that it was problematic -- in fact, I feel that it was a completely deliberate (and completely appropriate) character trait that Chandler gave Will because the character was awkward, insecure, and not entirely comfortable in his own skin. It's one of the things that makes me believe that Chandler "got" Will much better than Guy ever has. When Guy stepped into the role, it's like those character traits just disappeared in an instant, and that's just not realistic. I would have loved it if Guy's performance had been nuanced enough to display those traits at first and gradually lose them. Some might argue that that's me wanting Guy to be like Chandler, but I disagree -- it's really just about me wanting to get some sense that Guy is playing the same character that Chandler was playing.

This is one of the problems that arises when the show chooses to recast a role without keeping the character off-screen for a sufficient amount of time beforehand. I can believe that Will could eventually mature and lose old character traits, but I can't believe that it happened overnight, and without a proper transition period, that's what we end up with -- overnight changes. It'd be like someone taking over the role of E.J. and losing the British accent from day one, or someone taking over the role of Stefano and neglecting to roll their "R"s from day one. Could either character eventually drop those respective traits? Perhaps. Would it happen overnight? Absolutely not.
Edited by Will&Sonny, Jun 13 2014, 02:03 AM.
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Jun 12 2014, 07:22 PM
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Jun 12 2014, 11:29 AM
Doe-eyed guttersnipe? I love it!
According to Bill, Susan came up with the "doe-eyed" bit! :blulaugh:

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@DaysHayes @barrowshome "What was it u called Gabi today? Doe eyed gutter what? Cracked me up. Was it script or did u make it up? Lol"

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@thacker001u @barrowshome The actress contributed "doe-eyed."
https://twitter.com/DaysHayes/status/477236864206651392


"The actress"? How odd. Why not just say "Susan"? The person who sent the tweet obviously knew who "the actress" was if they knew who to send the tweet to.
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Doug Williams! He's Hope's dad and Julie's husband.


Oh okay. I understand now :)

Oh my gosh! Your avatar is adorable. I love dogs :wub2:
Like they said, Julie's husband and Hope's dad. Here's the bigger history/background on his character:

Doug Williams
Awesome, thank you PALMommy :)
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Jun 12 2014, 11:26 AM
You know what I hate about this? Julie has completely forgotten Will and Ari in this, that this baby will grow up without her mother. And like many have said, where has Julie been? Cruising around the world, not there for Nick, really she doesn't know shit but she is there to take Gabi's future away.
Julie thinks 10-20 years in prison is "like paying a parking ticket" and Gabi deserves more time than that. But yet Nick only served 4 years in prison for murder and kidnapping. Julie is too wrapped up in her delusions of her precious Nick worship. She was too annoying in my opinion.
I totally forgot about Julie and Ari. I mean, Julie has always preferred Nick to Will. She's shown time and again that she doesn't give a damn about Will and she was perfectly uninterested in finding out what Nick did to Will. She always dismissed it with her lame "he apologized" excuse. But for her not to think about Ari is just cruel and inexcusable. She didn't even remember that adorable little baby losing her mother.
Actually, that isn't true. What happened was much worse:

Gabi: Ten years away from my baby isn't enough punishment?

Julie: No.

She later made it clear that she hoped that Gabi served "every minute" of the maximum twenty-year sentence.
What is wrong with Julie? I just want an explanation for her spitefulness. I understand her grieve but her vengeful assholery is unnecessary.

I know a lot of people adore the actress but her acting choices make me dislike the character even more. She needs to stop with the OTT acting.
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