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Friday, June 13th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 12 2014, 11:36 PM (18,694 Views)
marie1969


Rosebud
Jun 13 2014, 05:01 PM
Mitchapalooza
Jun 13 2014, 02:39 PM
Snowing Fan
Jun 13 2014, 02:03 PM
Marlena did tell John in September 2008 she regretted the Stefano poisoning,but then John reminded her WHY she did it.

But putting a person in a coma is different than murder.
AND Stefano was FAR more deserving of her wrath and hatred than Nick was from Sami IMO.

Stefano did FAR more atrocious things to Marlena and her family than Nick did to Sami and her family.
Amen! The time she put Stefano in a coma, he had just had John killed by a hit and run and then made Marlena think john was dead, then brought him back with a different personality. Talk about putting two people through hell. How that is equal to Sami suffering at the hands of Nick is laughable.

It is not about the degree of suffering, the point is Marlena did the exact same thing that she is judging Sami for. She broke the law and was willing to harm another human being to protect those she loves. If Marlena wants to know why, Sami is the way she is, she should look in the mirror.
BeeBee
Jun 13 2014, 07:15 PM
Honeybees
Jun 13 2014, 11:22 AM
Sami reminds Marlena of what Nick did to Will and Arianna. Marlena plays Nick's call to Marlena. She says Nick needed help and never had the chance. Sami says he had plenty of chances and change was't going to happen. Sami: "I'm glad that monster is dead for good this time."
"I'm glad that monster is dead for good this time."said the delusional person engaged to marry EJ DiMera,a bigger monster than Nick could ever become and who has been given more chances than Nick was ever given.Sami really is a hypocrite.How many chances has she been given?

If Ej is such a monster, I don't get why anyone ever wanted him to be in a relationship with sweet innocent abigail LOL.

Kinay
Jun 13 2014, 08:03 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 13 2014, 07:36 PM
Kinay
Jun 13 2014, 07:31 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 13 2014, 07:21 PM
I'm glad Sami didn't apologize. She has every right to feel happy Nick is dead.
Sami is a heartless, immoral cruel bitch, she should be the one behind bars instead of Gabi.
I don't think Sami is a heartless bitch. She has every right to hate Nick for his homophobia and blackmailing Will. Will is her son and she loves him.
Sami doesn't have a shred of decency left in her. She might have had reasons to distrust or dislike Nick but the reason she's happy he's dead is because he can no longer expose her for throwing him in the river, not because he was a threat to Will or because he was a homophobe. She's been wanting Nick dead for a long time and the only reason he didn't die at her hands is because somebody beat her to it. Gabi is the one who killed him and still she has feelings for him, including remorse, something Sami knows nothing about. Gabi takes full responsibility for her actions, something Sami never, ever did. Gabi is a more caring and compassionate person than Sami has ever been or ever will be.

Sami's feud with Nick started precisely because of her need to protect Will from Nick. When Kami and Gabi threw Nick in the river, she had no reason of her own to harm him except for protecting Gabi, Will and Ari. there was nothing in it for Sami. Now with the hit, part of the reason may have been to protect herself, but the writing has been consistent through her dialogue that she was doing that to keep Will from taking Ari from Will.

As for Gabi, she IS a indeed selfish character. I am not going to dispute that Gabi has remorse. but i find it interesting that she did not seem to have any remorse until Will was arrested. She put on a damn good show while at the hospital playing the grief stricken GF to a T and she had everyone fooled. The next day, she was cold and calculating as she planned her getaway just in case. she strategically made sure that the custody papers were in order and she was planning to flee to Argentina as a plan B. I saw no emotion, remorse or freaking out while she was doing all of this. Pretty damn cold and calculated if you ask me.

Let's forget that Gabi did not just kill Nick as a crime of passion or on a spur of the moment. It was premeditated. She took the gun and went to meet him with the intent to kill him and she left him for dead while she went to the hospital to put on a performance for everyone's sake.

Sami is no saint, but she got nothing on Gabi when it comes to murder 101 LOL.
Rosebud
Jun 13 2014, 08:36 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 13 2014, 07:05 PM
I don't like this argument between Sami and Marlena. I don't blame Sami for trying to dump Nick's body in the river. He was an asshole
Then can Sami dump the rest of the assholes in Salem into the river? The first being Elvis? The second being Brady? And so on... Then she can jump in herself.


As long as she dump Marlena first, I am OK with that.
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Jun 13 2014, 08:54 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:44 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:36 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 07:05 PM
I don't like this argument between Sami and Marlena. I don't blame Sami for trying to dump Nick's body in the river. He was an asshole
Then can Sami dump the rest of the assholes in Salem into the river? The first being Elvis? The second being Brady? And so on... Then she can jump in herself.
EJ and Brady didn't blackmail her son on two separate occasions.
Well EJ did, with the exact same thing that Nick blackmailed him with. Also treated Will like his minion and told him; when I say jump, you say how high.

Yeah, Ej did blackmail Will by giving him a well paying job, a car and a luxurious apartment. I wish someone would blackmail me that way LOL. Then will turned the tables on him and blackmailed him which made them even. Then Ej was there for him when he was going through an ordeal and they became friends.

Nick hated Will because he was gay and did everything in his power to take his child from him twice. Two different situations.
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Jun 13 2014, 02:54 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 02:48 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 02:45 PM
I can't believe that Tomlin is stupid enough to want to go back to the Days of Melanie, Maggie and Daniel hogging up the show. Did the ratings go through the roof back then?
I'm worried the rating will lower when EJ and Sami leave.
Can they get any lower than when they were constantly on in 2007 smack in the middle of that summer of suckage of Santeen....
Actually the ratings are lower right now than during that summer of suckage...it took until September 2007 to consistently get down to what they are now.
Edited by daysjahvu, Jun 14 2014, 09:26 PM.
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Jun 13 2014, 08:58 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:49 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:44 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:36 PM

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EJ and Brady didn't blackmail her son on two separate occasions.
But they are assholes all the same, like Nick, right? You said you didn't blame Sami for wanting Nick dead cuz he was an asshole. My point was there are a lot of them in Salem, including Sami, so why not dump them all in the river?
It's not like Sami didn't have a legitimate reason for dumping him in the river. As much as I hated Gabi Nick tried to rape her and he blackmailed pretty much everyone in town.
Here is the relevant little detail people seem to have conveniently omitted in the discussion. When the gang threw Nick in the river, they thought he was already dead. They were just covering up what they thought what Gabi's murder. They only realized that Nick was still alive when he was already in the river. He was pulling Sami into the river and of course, she pushed him out to save herself as anyone would. Otherwise, she would have drown with him. What they should have done is get help and call the police instead of leaving him to die. They should have made an attempt to help him at any cost, but they did not. none of them did. with all her crying, i did not see Gabi jumped in there to help Nick lol. I recognize she felt bad, but so did Sami because she was having nightmares.

What they did was at worst manslaughter or accidental death, obstruction of justice. But I doubt it would be considered murder one under the circumstances.

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Jun 14 2014, 09:24 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 02:54 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 02:48 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 02:45 PM
I can't believe that Tomlin is stupid enough to want to go back to the Days of Melanie, Maggie and Daniel hogging up the show. Did the ratings go through the roof back then?
I'm worried the rating will lower when EJ and Sami leave.
Can they get any lower than when they were constantly on in 2007 smack in the middle of that summer of suckage of Santeen....
Actually the ratings are lower right now than during that summer of suckage...it took until September 2007 to consistently get down to what they are now.
That's a tad misleading because they went back up in 2008 and 2009. 2007 is there year where they had the most significant losses in total viewership though. IDK how much sense it actually makes to compare 2014 to 2007 in general. What was bad then isn't necessarily bad now.
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Jun 14 2014, 09:35 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:58 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:49 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:44 PM

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But they are assholes all the same, like Nick, right? You said you didn't blame Sami for wanting Nick dead cuz he was an asshole. My point was there are a lot of them in Salem, including Sami, so why not dump them all in the river?
It's not like Sami didn't have a legitimate reason for dumping him in the river. As much as I hated Gabi Nick tried to rape her and he blackmailed pretty much everyone in town.
Here is the relevant little detail people seem to have conveniently omitted in the discussion. When the gang threw Nick in the river, they thought he was already dead. They were just covering up what they thought what Gabi's murder. They only realized that Nick was still alive when he was already in the river. He was pulling Sami into the river and of course, she pushed him out to save herself as anyone would. Otherwise, she would have drown with him. What they should have done is get help and call the police instead of leaving him to die. They should have made an attempt to help him at any cost, but they did not. none of them did. with all her crying, i did not see Gabi jumped in there to help Nick lol. I recognize she felt bad, but so did Sami because she was having nightmares.

What they did was at worst manslaughter or accidental death, obstruction of justice. But I doubt it would be considered murder one under the circumstances.

No one is conveniently omitting anything. People are talking about different details. If you would like to add to it by pointing out additional arguments, try doing it without trying to throw shade at everyone else.
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lysie
Jun 14 2014, 08:47 PM
Marie1969, I'm not quoting your whole post, but yes. It was after Stefano woke up that she regretted it. Convenient? If wasn't too convenient for her, lol. She couldn't give him an antidote because she thought there wasn't one and she didn't regret until he woke up anyway. However, the whole point of her sister visiting her while she was in her own coma like state was for her to examine what she'd done . The gist of the conversation was that she'd lost her way and that what she'd done was wrong.

I think Sami showed remorse for hiring the hitman, but I think she's been pretty callous about the river from the beginning. It's been a frustration of mine from the beginning because I think that's actually very OOC for Sami.
Thank you for reminding me of that scene. I have forgotten about it completely. So my understanding is she was feeling no regrets until her sister made her face it when it was too late anyway. It does not seeinm much better lol. did she ever make amend to stefano or apologize? not that stefano deserves it, but since she is supposed to be a better person than stefano, i would expect her too.

Going back to sami, I thought she showed remorse for the rivergate at the beginning. she was having nightmares, she was hallucinations seeing 'Nick'. She seemed consumed with guilt until Ej found out about it... Then Ej took charge of everything and she was OK with it. It was already done and there was nothing she could do except making sure she did not go to prison.
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lysie
Jun 14 2014, 09:00 PM
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Jun 14 2014, 08:52 PM
I just want to know why Will was dressed like Mr. Rogers... :blink:
Looking for new neighbors probably.
As long as those neighbors include Daniel TIGER and not a different orange Daniel. . .
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marie1969
Jun 14 2014, 10:11 PM
lysie
Jun 14 2014, 08:47 PM
Marie1969, I'm not quoting your whole post, but yes. It was after Stefano woke up that she regretted it. Convenient? If wasn't too convenient for her, lol. She couldn't give him an antidote because she thought there wasn't one and she didn't regret until he woke up anyway. However, the whole point of her sister visiting her while she was in her own coma like state was for her to examine what she'd done . The gist of the conversation was that she'd lost her way and that what she'd done was wrong.

I think Sami showed remorse for hiring the hitman, but I think she's been pretty callous about the river from the beginning. It's been a frustration of mine from the beginning because I think that's actually very OOC for Sami.
Thank you for reminding me of that scene. I have forgotten about it completely. So my understanding is she was feeling no regrets until her sister made her face it when it was too late anyway. It does not seeinm much better lol. did she ever make amend to stefano or apologize? not that stefano deserves it, but since she is supposed to be a better person than stefano, i would expect her too.

Going back to sami, I thought she showed remorse for the rivergate at the beginning. she was having nightmares, she was hallucinations seeing 'Nick'. She seemed consumed with guilt until Ej found out about it... Then Ej took charge of everything and she was OK with it. It was already done and there was nothing she could do except making sure she did not go to prison.
Well by the time it was out he was already back to torturing them, so there wasn't really much of an opportunity. She did apologize. He didn't much care. Whether it's better or worse makes no difference to me though. I was responding to the post that said she hadn't shown remorse. But also, I just don't think Stefano's threat against Marlena's family is anywhere near Nick's threat against Sami's family. I'm not trying to minimize Nick's crimes, but literally Gabi is the only one I think had a legitimate motive for murder. Everyone only had motives to get the guy out of town.

I don't agree that Sami was feeling remorseful. Guilty and afraid of getting caught, sure. Like I said, I wish she had because I think that's OOC for her, but regardless it didn't come off that way to me. But even if she did, she's not showing that now. And if she's not sorry, that's fine. But I think that's a good reason for her family to be concerned. That's the same reason Marlena's dead sister was concerned about her. Until then, she hadn't shown remorse and that's not a good thing. I don't think it's necessary to be sorry that someone is dead or that they can't get to you anymore, but I think the remorse they're talking about involves being sorry that things happened they way they happened. You can be sorry that someone is dead without being sorry that someone did what had to be done.
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Jun 14 2014, 09:39 PM
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Jun 14 2014, 09:35 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:58 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:49 PM

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It's not like Sami didn't have a legitimate reason for dumping him in the river. As much as I hated Gabi Nick tried to rape her and he blackmailed pretty much everyone in town.
Here is the relevant little detail people seem to have conveniently omitted in the discussion. When the gang threw Nick in the river, they thought he was already dead. They were just covering up what they thought what Gabi's murder. They only realized that Nick was still alive when he was already in the river. He was pulling Sami into the river and of course, she pushed him out to save herself as anyone would. Otherwise, she would have drown with him. What they should have done is get help and call the police instead of leaving him to die. They should have made an attempt to help him at any cost, but they did not. none of them did. with all her crying, i did not see Gabi jumped in there to help Nick lol. I recognize she felt bad, but so did Sami because she was having nightmares.

What they did was at worst manslaughter or accidental death, obstruction of justice. But I doubt it would be considered murder one under the circumstances.

No one is conveniently omitting anything. People are talking about different details. If you would like to add to it by pointing out additional arguments, try doing it without trying to throw shade at everyone else.
Okay, so I have a question and it's a little off topic: IF Gabi HAD told ALL the truth . . . that she whacked him in the head with the rock and about Kate/Sami and the river would her sentence likely have been less? Hmmm, I wonder?
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Jun 14 2014, 10:23 PM
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Jun 14 2014, 09:39 PM
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Here is the relevant little detail people seem to have conveniently omitted in the discussion. When the gang threw Nick in the river, they thought he was already dead. They were just covering up what they thought what Gabi's murder. They only realized that Nick was still alive when he was already in the river. He was pulling Sami into the river and of course, she pushed him out to save herself as anyone would. Otherwise, she would have drown with him. What they should have done is get help and call the police instead of leaving him to die. They should have made an attempt to help him at any cost, but they did not. none of them did. with all her crying, i did not see Gabi jumped in there to help Nick lol. I recognize she felt bad, but so did Sami because she was having nightmares.

What they did was at worst manslaughter or accidental death, obstruction of justice. But I doubt it would be considered murder one under the circumstances.

No one is conveniently omitting anything. People are talking about different details. If you would like to add to it by pointing out additional arguments, try doing it without trying to throw shade at everyone else.
Okay, so I have a question and it's a little off topic: IF Gabi HAD told ALL the truth . . . that she whacked him in the head with the rock and about Kate/Sami and the river would her sentence likely have been less? Hmmm, I wonder?
I don't think so only because it would have looked even more premeditated.
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No one is conveniently omitting anything. People are talking about different details. If you would like to add to it by pointing out additional arguments, try doing it without trying to throw shade at everyone else.
Okay, so I have a question and it's a little off topic: IF Gabi HAD told ALL the truth . . . that she whacked him in the head with the rock and about Kate/Sami and the river would her sentence likely have been less? Hmmm, I wonder?
I don't think so only because it would have looked even more premeditated.
It would probably depend on how the judge saw it. It could be used as evidence that Gabi had reason to be afraid of Nick, with respect to him blackmailing her and having attempted to rape her. Or, it could make her look like she refused to report that to the police and took matters into her own hands. Given Nick's conviction for killing someone, it's not out of the question that a good lawyer could have used it to illustrate she was terrified of him.
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Okay, so I have a question and it's a little off topic: IF Gabi HAD told ALL the truth . . . that she whacked him in the head with the rock and about Kate/Sami and the river would her sentence likely have been less? Hmmm, I wonder?
I don't think so only because it would have looked even more premeditated.
It would probably depend on how the judge saw it. It could be used as evidence that Gabi had reason to be afraid of Nick, with respect to him blackmailing her and having attempted to rape her. Or, it could make her look like she refused to report that to the police and took matters into her own hands. Given Nick's conviction for killing someone, it's not out of the question that a good lawyer could have used it to illustrate she was terrified of him.
It would've been more interesting if they took the case to a trail. They could've end it with an acquittal or with a hung jury. In that case, the prosecutor decides not to try Gabi again because she was getting a lot of public sympathy, also a second trial is too costly and there's no way of getting an unbiased jury due to the publicity. They could've used Nicole as a sympathetic reporter whose reporting on the case swayes public opinion to Gabi's side. After the trial, a lot of relationships become strained.

I think they could've gotten a lot of drama out of that outcome than carting Gabi off to jail. And Gabi could've still her exist by having her leave the country to get away from all the publicity and/or because of all the people who'll hate her once the truth cames out. She might even move to New York or some other place where she'll still have contact with her daughter.

I just didn't like the execution or the ending of Nick's murder.
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I don't think so only because it would have looked even more premeditated.
It would probably depend on how the judge saw it. It could be used as evidence that Gabi had reason to be afraid of Nick, with respect to him blackmailing her and having attempted to rape her. Or, it could make her look like she refused to report that to the police and took matters into her own hands. Given Nick's conviction for killing someone, it's not out of the question that a good lawyer could have used it to illustrate she was terrified of him.
It would've been more interesting if they took the case to a trail. They could've end it with an acquittal or with a hung jury. In that case, the prosecutor decides not to try Gabi again because she was getting a lot of public sympathy, also a second trial is too costly and there's no way of getting an unbiased jury due to the publicity. They could've used Nicole as a sympathetic reporter whose reporting on the case swayes public opinion to Gabi's side. After the trial, a lot of relationships become strained.

I think they could've gotten a lot of drama out of that outcome than carting Gabi off to jail. And Gabi could've still her exist by having her leave the country to get away from all the publicity and/or because of all the people who'll hate her once the truth cames out. She might even move to New York or some other place where she'll still have contact with her daughter.

I just didn't like the execution or the ending of Nick's murder.
Or, she could have just ended up in a mental hospital having cracked with all the guilt and pressure. CB was doing an outstanding job implying that Gabi has serious mental problems that informed her actions. They could have also written the "murder" as self-defense as well, but Gabi not remembering what happened at first.

In a way, the character was a victim of the only-the-Jonas can be a heroine/hero dynamic of the show. It is strange to me that Gabi - the young woman who was strong enough to dump a pathetic and begging Will because she saw something wasn't right - didn't have the gumption to go to her brother or the police to try and save Melanie. But that was part of the same show dynamic that saw to it that Stephanie was weak and pathetic in the face the Jonas.

Now, even Rafe, once the wearer of the righteous crown, has been thrown under the Jonas bus.
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Jun 14 2014, 05:52 PM
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I'm glad Sami didn't apologize. She has every right to feel happy Nick is dead.
I honestly don't understand why people dislike this comment. Everyone was happy Nick died except Julie and Hope not just Sami.
Everybody? Seems like the only people that were happy were the ones involved in the story, and they happened to be the ones who were involved in the river coverup.
When I wrote everyone I meant most people in town hated Nick which is true
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Jun 14 2014, 09:39 PM
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Here is the relevant little detail people seem to have conveniently omitted in the discussion. When the gang threw Nick in the river, they thought he was already dead. They were just covering up what they thought what Gabi's murder. They only realized that Nick was still alive when he was already in the river. He was pulling Sami into the river and of course, she pushed him out to save herself as anyone would. Otherwise, she would have drown with him. What they should have done is get help and call the police instead of leaving him to die. They should have made an attempt to help him at any cost, but they did not. none of them did. with all her crying, i did not see Gabi jumped in there to help Nick lol. I recognize she felt bad, but so did Sami because she was having nightmares.

What they did was at worst manslaughter or accidental death, obstruction of justice. But I doubt it would be considered murder one under the circumstances.

No one is conveniently omitting anything. People are talking about different details. If you would like to add to it by pointing out additional arguments, try doing it without trying to throw shade at everyone else.
Okay, so I have a question and it's a little off topic: IF Gabi HAD told ALL the truth . . . that she whacked him in the head with the rock and about Kate/Sami and the river would her sentence likely have been less? Hmmm, I wonder?
Yeah maybe but I guess we will never know
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Sami did say, "I'm glad that monster is dead." Glad and happy are synonyms. I guess this is something we will have to respectfully disagree on.
Edited by DaysAddiction, Jun 15 2014, 01:45 PM.
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No one is conveniently omitting anything. People are talking about different details. If you would like to add to it by pointing out additional arguments, try doing it without trying to throw shade at everyone else.
Okay, so I have a question and it's a little off topic: IF Gabi HAD told ALL the truth . . . that she whacked him in the head with the rock and about Kate/Sami and the river would her sentence likely have been less? Hmmm, I wonder?
I don't think so only because it would have looked even more premeditated.
The rock makes it look less premeditated especially since Gabi left the square first to end the argument then Nick followed her.
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Jun 14 2014, 10:28 AM
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Dan is INCENSED. Quietly, breathily ashamed at Rafe. He is a cop and Melanie had to deal with this all on her own thanks to Rafe. Rafe is deeply ashamed at betraying the Daniel God. The Daniel God must speaks to Melanie and Rafe slinks away in shame.
As much as I hate Dr. Douche..he has a right to be pissed at Rafe. More than pissed, he should have knocked his ass out.
He is not even upset with Melanie his own daughter who knew and did not tell him,she is just an angel who wanted to handle things on her own.Why should Rafe throw his own sister under the bus to tell Daniel something his own daughter did not tell him.Daniel kept JJ and Nicole's secret but Rafe should not have kept his sister's secret????
Daniel is full of it.
There is a major difference between a victim deciding not to out the person who hurt them and a cop covering up a relative's crime. Daniel's only crime that's similar to Rafe's is the crime of faking the DNA test. And even despite that, he still has a justifiable reason to be angry with Rafe.
Daniel covered up JJ's drug party with Theresa.Based on Daniel covering for Nicole and JJ there is no question that he would have covered for Melanie if the situation with Rafe and Gabi had been reversed with him and Melanie.He should understand why Rafe would cover for his own sister instead of having her sent to prison.
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Okay, so I have a question and it's a little off topic: IF Gabi HAD told ALL the truth . . . that she whacked him in the head with the rock and about Kate/Sami and the river would her sentence likely have been less? Hmmm, I wonder?
I don't think so only because it would have looked even more premeditated.
The rock makes it look less premeditated especially since Gabi left the square first to end the argument then Nick followed her.
No, I mean it makes the second one look more pre-meditated.
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