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Friday, June 13th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 12 2014, 11:36 PM (18,690 Views)
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Jun 16 2014, 01:27 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:39 PM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:33 PM

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I agree that the sets are pretty pathetic. I get so tired of seeing the HTS. People work there, eat there, renew their vows there, conduct business there, have private conversations there, have murders there... the citizens of Salem do everything there. Ridiculous. Is Days that hard up that they can't afford a few other sets? Frankly, I miss the pier!!
I am surprised they haven't set a couch up in HTS yet. Then they could do it all there.
There used to be one.
I actually forgot about that! LOL Well they just need to drag it out of storage and we are all set with HTS!
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Jun 15 2014, 08:39 PM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:23 PM
You know what is hopelessly pathetic? These sets. It's hard for the characters to be understood and for the actors to project the right feelings when they are seen in the same three places all the time. BB goes to Dabai and Dool goes to HTS. :shrug: :soapbox:
Those sets drive me crazy. People conduct business and deeply personal conversation in public places. And the sets suck! I don't understand how can BB afford all these location shoots but DOOL can't even afford better sets.
I agree that the sets are pretty pathetic. I get so tired of seeing the HTS. People work there, eat there, renew their vows there, conduct business there, have private conversations there, have murders there... the citizens of Salem do everything there. Ridiculous. Is Days that hard up that they can't afford a few other sets? Frankly, I miss the pier!!
I miss seeing characters like Marlena having private moments in their homes. Give her a couch to sit on or a bed where we could see her display her feelings. It would be great to see Ciara interact with Hope someplace other than the pub, her office or HS. And poor John, who we never see, must be camped out in HS or a park bench.

It seems if you are not a Dimera, Kiriakas, Jennifer, Daniel or Teresa you are pretty much homeless in Salem.
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While there has been others who has wanting Nick dead and expressed being happy that Nick dead I think Sami said it in a really cold way. She didnīt just say she was happy that he was dead but that she wished he had drown in the river like she wished she had killed him. I think it would have made more sense if she had said Iīm happy Nick is dead but Iīm glad he didnīt died in the river because now I donīt have to have his death on my conscience. Anyway I didnīt really like that she sounded so cold but I guess she makes for a good Dimera wife now.
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Well they are both leaving the show. Now it's time for Stefano to leave. Every person we don't like should leave, just kidding :blulaugh:
Nah. I don't mind disliking characters or characters being bad people. I'm thrilled that Sami is leaving though.
No I'm totally kidding. I don't think they should leave. This show needs villains or it would be boring as hell. I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think Alison Sweeney is an excellent actress. I'm going to miss her and I have a crush on EJ. I love tall men and British accents.

Sweeney is a terrible actor.

I don't know how tall he was, but Jack the Ripper also had an British accent.
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Regarding the scene between Marlena and Sami:

I don't think that Marlena was supposed to come off as cold in that scene, but I can see how some viewers might have interpreted it that way.

But ... I think the scene was poorly written and poorly directed ... because it was hard to see what Marlena was feeling. Sadly, I couldn't tell from how it was written or acted.

I had to use my knowledge of who Marlena is supposed to be ... in order to figure out what the scene was intended to be about.

I think it was intended to convey Marlena's realization and resignation and sadness ... of how dark Sami has become.
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Jun 16 2014, 01:27 AM
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I agree that the sets are pretty pathetic. I get so tired of seeing the HTS. People work there, eat there, renew their vows there, conduct business there, have private conversations there, have murders there... the citizens of Salem do everything there. Ridiculous. Is Days that hard up that they can't afford a few other sets? Frankly, I miss the pier!!
I am surprised they haven't set a couch up in HTS yet. Then they could do it all there.
There used to be one.
Yeah, what happened to that? Casualty of the downsizing like the stairs?
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Jun 15 2014, 05:36 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 08:54 PM

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Yeah, Ej did blackmail Will by giving him a well paying job, a car and a luxurious apartment. I wish someone would blackmail me that way LOL. Then will turned the tables on him and blackmailed him which made them even. Then Ej was there for him when he was going through an ordeal and they became friends.

Nick hated Will because he was gay and did everything in his power to take his child from him twice. Two different situations.
I always thought about that s/l that someone should explain to EJ what blackmail means. He seemed not to understand that Will was supposed to be doing things for him not the other way around. Except for the Abe incident Will came and went as he pleased, he was always late, hardly ever answered EJ's calls and still managed to get a paycheck, an apartment, and a car. EJ'd idea of blackmail when it came to Will took all of the sting out of it, made it almost a good thing.


:laugh: Too funny. I honestly think Ej just wanted to make friend with Will. Being Ej Dimera, he blackmailed Will into being his friend and bought his friendship with expensive gits for good measure LOL.
Exactly this. This is one of the reasons I *so* much liked the EJill storyline, and also why I wonder how some people thought it was so "wrong" for "big bad EJ" to keep "innocent Will" under his thumb. It was only "blackmail" on the surface, what EJ clearly really wanted was Will on his side, on his corner, because he very clearly liked him and saw something in him, which I think Will knew. And yes, also due to the Sami aspect. But it was about much more than that. They had this chemistry, this *thing*, that just clicked so well under the surface. They had these looks sometimes when they didn't say anything, because they didn't have to. The other one knew what the other one was thinking about. That was such a *great* storyline and a good time for the show. Also, that storyline and their interactions were front-and-center, and an A-storyline, which really made Will into a leading character on the show. And it continued pretty much that way with Chandler being in the role.
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Jun 15 2014, 06:35 PM
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Yeah, Ej did blackmail Will by giving him a well paying job, a car and a luxurious apartment. I wish someone would blackmail me that way LOL. Then will turned the tables on him and blackmailed him which made them even. Then Ej was there for him when he was going through an ordeal and they became friends.

Nick hated Will because he was gay and did everything in his power to take his child from him twice. Two different situations.
I always thought about that s/l that someone should explain to EJ what blackmail means. He seemed not to understand that Will was supposed to be doing things for him not the other way around. Except for the Abe incident Will came and went as he pleased, he was always late, hardly ever answered EJ's calls and still managed to get a paycheck, an apartment, and a car. EJ'd idea of blackmail when it came to Will took all of the sting out of it, made it almost a good thing.
That's one of the things I loved about the EJill storyline, but there could have been so much more. It would have been cool if EJ had become completely dependent on Will's ethnicallygrey fixing skills, which he had honed over a lifetime of being Sami's son. I miss the deep-down-good-hearted but still smarmy and shady version of Will during those days. I really enjoyed it when Chandler played Will as having fun stirring shit just for the hell of it. I never would have wanted him to be full on bad guy, but shady seems about right for Sami's son. GW plays Will as so stand-up and decent, but I'd like to see him get a chance to play with Will's dark side, maybe on behalf of Sonny.
This. I really, exactly feel this way, and also, what's more, Will's storylines were front-and-center during that time. He was a lead, which he, as the Son of Sami, would realistically, and for all intents and purposes, be.
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Jun 15 2014, 08:23 PM
You know what is hopelessly pathetic? These sets. It's hard for the characters to be understood and for the actors to project the right feelings when they are seen in the same three places all the time. BB goes to Dabai and Dool goes to HTS. :shrug: :soapbox:
Yeah.... but I don't really think locations are needed on soaps. That's just a gimmick, and if people watch, they are watching for the sights more than the storyline. And that should never really happen, actually. The storyline should always be the one that people are watching not the location. However, the permanent sets is something that needs to be investigated upon. And also, the biggest problem that DAYS imo has, is the lighting. It is evident when one is watching the Emmy reels. The lighting is usually too light, which can create a more cheapish image.
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Jun 16 2014, 11:22 AM
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Jun 15 2014, 08:23 PM
You know what is hopelessly pathetic? These sets. It's hard for the characters to be understood and for the actors to project the right feelings when they are seen in the same three places all the time. BB goes to Dabai and Dool goes to HTS. :shrug: :soapbox:
Yeah.... but I don't really think locations are needed on soaps. That's just a gimmick, and if people watch, they are watching for the sights more than the storyline. And that should never really happen, actually. The storyline should always be the one that people are watching not the location. However, the permanent sets is something that needs to be investigated upon. And also, the biggest problem that DAYS imo has, is the lighting. It is evident when one is watching the Emmy reels. The lighting is usually too light, which can create a more cheapish image.
Agreed on the locations, I was just using that as an example. I would just be happy to see their homes (private space), work space, anything really. Just make it more personal.
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Jun 16 2014, 06:08 AM
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Nah. I don't mind disliking characters or characters being bad people. I'm thrilled that Sami is leaving though.
No I'm totally kidding. I don't think they should leave. This show needs villains or it would be boring as hell. I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think Alison Sweeney is an excellent actress. I'm going to miss her and I have a crush on EJ. I love tall men and British accents.

Sweeney is a terrible actor.

I don't know how tall he was, but Jack the Ripper also had an British accent.
I disagree. Alison Sweeney is without a doubt one of my favorite actresses on the show.
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Nah. I don't mind disliking characters or characters being bad people. I'm thrilled that Sami is leaving though.
No I'm totally kidding. I don't think they should leave. This show needs villains or it would be boring as hell. I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think Alison Sweeney is an excellent actress. I'm going to miss her and I have a crush on EJ. I love tall men and British accents.

Sweeney is a terrible actor.

I don't know how tall he was, but Jack the Ripper also had an British accent.
We are just going to have to respectfully disagree on that one because I like Alison Sweeney. My mind is already made up on this one.

I don't know why it's necessary to compare Jack the Ripper to a British actor. It's apples to oranges and it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
Edited by DaysAddiction, Jun 16 2014, 03:27 PM.
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Jun 16 2014, 03:16 PM
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No I'm totally kidding. I don't think they should leave. This show needs villains or it would be boring as hell. I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think Alison Sweeney is an excellent actress. I'm going to miss her and I have a crush on EJ. I love tall men and British accents.

Sweeney is a terrible actor.

I don't know how tall he was, but Jack the Ripper also had an British accent.
We are just going to have to respectfully disagree on that one because I like Alison Sweeney. My mind is already made up on this one.

I don't know why it's necessary to compare Jack the Ripper to a British actor. It's apples to oranges and it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
True, but I do think that James Scott's fans give EJ a free pass to do whatever the hell he wants because of the accent and his dashing good looks. I have a hard time liking his character and justifying all the horrible things Elvis has done simply because he's hot.
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Sweeney is a terrible actor.

I don't know how tall he was, but Jack the Ripper also had an British accent.
We are just going to have to respectfully disagree on that one because I like Alison Sweeney. My mind is already made up on this one.

I don't know why it's necessary to compare Jack the Ripper to a British actor. It's apples to oranges and it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
True, but I do think that James Scott's fans give EJ a free pass to do whatever the hell he wants because of the accent and his dashing good looks. I have a hard time liking his character and justifying all the horrible things Elvis has done simply because he's hot.
I also happen to think he plays his part well. I like his acting in addition to him being hot lol
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Sweeney is a terrible actor.

I don't know how tall he was, but Jack the Ripper also had an British accent.
We are just going to have to respectfully disagree on that one because I like Alison Sweeney. My mind is already made up on this one.

I don't know why it's necessary to compare Jack the Ripper to a British actor. It's apples to oranges and it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
True, but I do think that James Scott's fans give EJ a free pass to do whatever the hell he wants because of the accent and his dashing good looks. I have a hard time liking his character and justifying all the horrible things Elvis has done simply because he's hot.
This argument never made any sense to me. There are too many popular villains played by people who aren't hot and British (or even men) for it to hold up.
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Jun 16 2014, 06:35 AM
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God she is just unbearable... please let her have huge success with her talk show/book/ infomercials I would totally welcome a recast of Sami Brady,
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We are just going to have to respectfully disagree on that one because I like Alison Sweeney. My mind is already made up on this one.

I don't know why it's necessary to compare Jack the Ripper to a British actor. It's apples to oranges and it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
True, but I do think that James Scott's fans give EJ a free pass to do whatever the hell he wants because of the accent and his dashing good looks. I have a hard time liking his character and justifying all the horrible things Elvis has done simply because he's hot.
This argument never made any sense to me. There are too many popular villains played by people who aren't hot and British (or even men) for it to hold up.
I would think he's hot even if he didn't play a villain.
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Hating someone and wanting them literally to DIE are two different things, IMO.
It's not like she wanted him to literally die for no reason. It's not uncommon to want someone dead when you hate them.
Again, there is a difference in wanting someone dead, to acting to cause that person to die, i.e. Hiring a hit man to kill them.
Yep! ITA with this. I worked with a woman who made my life a living Hell for 10 years, when I left my job they called me about a year later or so to tell me she'd died. I felt nothing at all. Well, not true - I was relieved because I knew she was emotionally abusive to many people OTHER than me and I knew she couldn't do that anymore to anyone. But did I want her dead or plot her death? Emphatically, NO!
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Marlena did tell John in September 2008 she regretted the Stefano poisoning,but then John reminded her WHY she did it.

But putting a person in a coma is different than murder.
AND Stefano was FAR more deserving of her wrath and hatred than Nick was from Sami IMO.

Stefano did FAR more atrocious things to Marlena and her family than Nick did to Sami and her family.
Amen! The time she put Stefano in a coma, he had just had John killed by a hit and run and then made Marlena think john was dead, then brought him back with a different personality. Talk about putting two people through hell. How that is equal to Sami suffering at the hands of Nick is laughable.

It is not about the degree of suffering, the point is Marlena did the exact same thing that she is judging Sami for. She broke the law and was willing to harm another human being to protect those she loves. If Marlena wants to know why, Sami is the way she is, she should look in the mirror.
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Jun 13 2014, 11:22 AM
Sami reminds Marlena of what Nick did to Will and Arianna. Marlena plays Nick's call to Marlena. She says Nick needed help and never had the chance. Sami says he had plenty of chances and change was't going to happen. Sami: "I'm glad that monster is dead for good this time."
"I'm glad that monster is dead for good this time."said the delusional person engaged to marry EJ DiMera,a bigger monster than Nick could ever become and who has been given more chances than Nick was ever given.Sami really is a hypocrite.How many chances has she been given?

If Ej is such a monster, I don't get why anyone ever wanted him to be in a relationship with sweet innocent abigail LOL.

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Jun 13 2014, 08:03 PM
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I don't think Sami is a heartless bitch. She has every right to hate Nick for his homophobia and blackmailing Will. Will is her son and she loves him.
Sami doesn't have a shred of decency left in her. She might have had reasons to distrust or dislike Nick but the reason she's happy he's dead is because he can no longer expose her for throwing him in the river, not because he was a threat to Will or because he was a homophobe. She's been wanting Nick dead for a long time and the only reason he didn't die at her hands is because somebody beat her to it. Gabi is the one who killed him and still she has feelings for him, including remorse, something Sami knows nothing about. Gabi takes full responsibility for her actions, something Sami never, ever did. Gabi is a more caring and compassionate person than Sami has ever been or ever will be.

Sami's feud with Nick started precisely because of her need to protect Will from Nick. When Kami and Gabi threw Nick in the river, she had no reason of her own to harm him except for protecting Gabi, Will and Ari. there was nothing in it for Sami. Now with the hit, part of the reason may have been to protect herself, but the writing has been consistent through her dialogue that she was doing that to keep Will from taking Ari from Will.

As for Gabi, she IS a indeed selfish character. I am not going to dispute that Gabi has remorse. but i find it interesting that she did not seem to have any remorse until Will was arrested. She put on a damn good show while at the hospital playing the grief stricken GF to a T and she had everyone fooled. The next day, she was cold and calculating as she planned her getaway just in case. she strategically made sure that the custody papers were in order and she was planning to flee to Argentina as a plan B. I saw no emotion, remorse or freaking out while she was doing all of this. Pretty damn cold and calculated if you ask me.

Let's forget that Gabi did not just kill Nick as a crime of passion or on a spur of the moment. It was premeditated. She took the gun and went to meet him with the intent to kill him and she left him for dead while she went to the hospital to put on a performance for everyone's sake.

Sami is no saint, but she got nothing on Gabi when it comes to murder 101 LOL.
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Jun 13 2014, 08:36 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 07:05 PM
I don't like this argument between Sami and Marlena. I don't blame Sami for trying to dump Nick's body in the river. He was an asshole
Then can Sami dump the rest of the assholes in Salem into the river? The first being Elvis? The second being Brady? And so on... Then she can jump in herself.


As long as she dump Marlena first, I am OK with that.
Except that for Marlena it was out of norm, for Sami it IS the norm. So no, she can not "look in the mirror". Marlena didn't do it because she could or wanted to, she saw a danger to her family (Sami, in fact, in all three cases) and she did something that normally she would never do. And she felt guilty about it. She didn't attempt to kill EJ either. Her gun went off because she was surprised by the actual gun shot, if I remember correctly. She had intent, but she didn't make an Attempt.

Sami has a pattern with which this situation is consistent. Marlena does not.

If someone tried to kill my family, I'd probably be capable of murder too, I'll hopefully never know.
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