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Monday, June 16th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 13 2014, 11:56 PM (17,477 Views)
naptown
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Honeybees
Jun 16 2014, 01:41 PM
Maybe Rafe's brother Dario could come back...from Mareen where he's currently dating Daenerys Stormborn...or Argentina or whereever he is. Honestly, Rafe still has connections to the canvas via niece Arianna and I prefer him 1000x to Daniel. I don't like this out-of-the-blue cheating on Jordan thing, and so I hope that lets her get angry and get some real backbone.

Seriously, I am warming to CS as Jordan more and more and I do think the show kind of screwed her with the slow build of her storyline. They just need to get it going, and I'm in.

I wonder if Eve will be involved as well.
Love the Game of Thrones reference!
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

james0479
Jun 16 2014, 01:12 PM
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Jun 16 2014, 12:58 PM

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If that's the case and GG stated an interest in leaving, wonder if that played a part in changing up Jordan's secret storyline? I'm often more fixated on the behind the scenes stuff that what's on the screen. I'd be suprised, however, if Galen decided to leave as it IS a good paycheck but he DID express some aggravation tho. It's interesting.
If he is being written out I doubt he had anything to do with it. I would think it was because there really is no story for him anymore. Wasn't he brought on for Sami, then they tried to give him lots of family and that's gone now, and I don't think the Jordan story has been very popular... I think there are more reasons to get rid of him than to keep him at this point.
The reason the Jordan story has lost popularity is because they haven't told it. It's totally the last minute change that affected the pacing and I DO wonder if that had to do with an idea GG may not renew his contract. Time shall tell. It's interesting to me anyway lol
It has to be that or they saw an angle that they could play up the Jordan/Kate animosity and use it to drive future story but without Rafe in the picture, so they needed to up the ante with the bad blood between Jordan and Kate and prolonging the reveal of what Jordan's secret really is could do that.....Kate is supposedly about to bring someone to Salem NOW that proves to be a dangerous person from Jordan's past.....but as per CS we are STILL about 5 months away from the reveal....that is just insane...something is up...and I wouldn't be surprised if in the end, Jordan's secret and Kate digging up her past leads to Rafe being killed protecting Jordan....Kate would feel guilty about what she's done...and if Lucas and Jordan end up together...that would put Lucas at odds with his mother if he finds out that her digging ultimately lead to Rafe's death.
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Jun 16 2014, 01:26 PM
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Jun 16 2014, 01:12 PM
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If he is being written out I doubt he had anything to do with it. I would think it was because there really is no story for him anymore. Wasn't he brought on for Sami, then they tried to give him lots of family and that's gone now, and I don't think the Jordan story has been very popular... I think there are more reasons to get rid of him than to keep him at this point.
The reason the Jordan story has lost popularity is because they haven't told it. It's totally the last minute change that affected the pacing and I DO wonder if that had to do with an idea GG may not renew his contract. Time shall tell. It's interesting to me anyway lol
How can they gain popularity when they stall the story the way they did? It's been MONTHS of nothing. No forward movement and not even sweet couple moments to play. The actors were jipped! And today they drag Rafe down into the mud. That was such gross behavior coming from him. It's hard to gather up support for a man who growls at his sweet comforting girlfriend and then go off have a fuck with a woman who has been after Jordan since she set foot in Salem. I don't think women are going to be swooning over his character when you turn him into a world class jerk! They better have a plan for Rafe because this is just the thing to make you want to wash your hands of him.
I think Jordan's going be hurt, but she's going to feel that Kate took advantage of Rafe. She know how upset he was and that he was drinking and if she finds out the exact night it happened, she'll blame Kate more than Rafe since she knows how determined Kate was to get him back.
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I love how all three conversations on this thread today regarding Jordan's past, Sami and Abigail, and Therady all give the writers of this show way too much credit for all of these character's motives and possible backstories. Until we actually get any of this playing out onscreen, it's all speculation to make up for shitty writing that is all over the place with no clear direction. And with taping nearly 6 months in advance, it makes their course corrections harder to pull off and makes the show look like even more of a joke! And I'll probably still be tuning in tomorrow and for the next couple years, praying that it gets better.
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Ben and Abby are growing on me. I can't say I see a great deal of chemistry between them but they're not bad.

Oh Brady ... watching today I just wanted to scream SHUT UP YOU MORON! Oh sheesh. Lying straight to his father's face saying he's not using. Whining and crying like a 2 year old over manufactured lies. He's changed his entire childhood to try and blame his troubles on his father. He's as sick as Theresa is.

Paige and Mary Beth, JJ and Theresa - natter, natter, yada, yada, yada.

Sami, EJ and Abigail ... painful! I do feel bad for Abby - she feels guilty as all heck. I get no sense of guilt from EJ at all - to him it's all about protecting the secret and hanging on to a fantasy of the perfect, fairy-tale life with Sami that is NEVER going to happen.

Oh Rafe ... you betrayed Jordan ... sigh!
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Today was REALLY bad! Brady continues to be insufferable. Theresa's behavior is motivated by nothing. Paige is still going on and on and on about Eve. Kate has lost her dignity (again) and Rafe has lost his damn mind!

I'll stay tuned in for KDP's debut as Eve and to see what big "twists" are coming for Sami/EJ/Abigail, but I'm losing hope. Everything great that Days built up in 2013/early 2014 has been completely washed away, and every episode is literally difficult to watch. It's like the writers are playing a game of "How quickly can we run this show into the ground?"
Edited by am103, Jun 16 2014, 02:13 PM.
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Tripp
Jun 16 2014, 01:25 PM
LuvingLumi
Jun 16 2014, 01:13 PM
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Jun 16 2014, 01:09 PM
james0479
Jun 16 2014, 12:58 PM
Sami knows and I'm thrilled. I, along with others, are calling it. The reason I'm in love with the idea is this is the final year of Sami and I actually DO want her to be old school calculating in how she's portrayed these final months. The Sami we've seen over the past god knows how many years has been all over the freaking place but THIS Sami, a Sami who knows and waits until reveals could best benefit her for whatever reason, is a Sami I can get down with. It's been maybe since 2000-ish since I've said this wholeheartedly (and I do love some Ejabby) but #teamsami. Yup I just said it. They best not let me down.
I will go down with the ship believing she's known since the 2nd time EJ went out to the Horton Cabin. Right before he came back into the Dimansion, she received a text and it just showed her looking confused over it. Someone posted it awhile back here of her seeing it. I think someone (either Percy or Nick) sent her the pictures THEN! Or she was having EJ followed and off screen a PI sent her a text that EJ was at Smith Island with Abigail. Either way, I think she's known for a LONG time and AS is lying about what her character does and doesn't know. THAT would be the best way to dole out a "twist" is to have the actors lie about what goes out onto twitter and discussion boards . .. well, IMHO it is.
I don't think she's knows since then but I definitely think she's known since Nick's death which hasn't been that many days/weeks...Salem time....

That is why I think that AS was choosing her words carefully in that interview...she said she hasn't known all along as she couldn't keep it under wraps for so long and what we've seen (up to the point of the interview) was sincere and no agenda or revenge planning.....up until that point...or all along....

Yea, I dont think she has known that long. I really still think it's a ripoff to let her find out offscreen. I think both Ejabby and Ejami fans can agree to say they wanted to see Sami's immediate reaction to the news that EJ was getting his needs met by Abigail. But after the horrific fake out dream, the writers believe they can have the best of both worlds (even though I would call it by giving us two shitty scenarios).

Oh I DO think we'll see the immediate reaction . . . in a flashback to her finding out. Truthfully, plotting and scheming revenge will be the only way I see to redeem the shell of a version Sami has become over the years. I don't believe really anything they say in interviews and perhaps they are even instructed to MISLEAD the public or keep quiet. Like I said, I still stand by that she was definitely "tipped off" on that 2nd outing to Smith Island. She might not have known they slept together, but she's certainly been able to put 2 and 2 together since then with knowing about Abby's pregnancy scare and being able to fill in the blanks, etc. (Ha! Ha! Not that there were any "blanks" so to speak).

I think the final piece of the puzzle would be Kate confiding in Sami that EJ came to her all upset about that envelop. I mean honestly, does it even seem like Kate to let something like that go without pursuing the "what the ___" angle of it?
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Jun 16 2014, 01:30 PM
KweenBoda
Jun 16 2014, 01:26 PM
I still do not think that Sami Brady is smart enough to pull off this deception: Knowing what EJ did and plotting her revenge. If it happens that way, then I will be shocked.
I don't either. Sami finding out about this should minimum been a reaction equivalent to the Tasmanian devil through the Dimansion. But AS is leaving and thus she says we are getting old school Sami which I guess means she is now calculating and cunning.
My point exactly as to WHY I think she's known for quite awhile. And Old School Sami would've been WAY more than capable of pulling off a take down like this and if Kate's HELPING her?? God help the Dimera men and Abigail?!?!
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missmeka1987_, you should probably check your pms every night that you're on here lol
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Jun 16 2014, 01:43 PM
KweenBoda
Jun 16 2014, 01:26 PM
I still do not think that Sami Brady is smart enough to pull off this deception: Knowing what EJ did and plotting her revenge. If it happens that way, then I will be shocked.
Why not? Sami was an expert schemer. She's been scheming since she was a teenager. She stood toe to toe to Salem's villains when she was younger and had much less resources and connections. She can do it. Old Samantha Gene Brady can pull of any scheme. #TeamSami
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Jun 16 2014, 12:03 PM
Honeybees
Jun 16 2014, 11:58 AM
JJ and Paige kiss on the couch. She says she has to go study. She drops a copy of Jack's book. She says she's going to read it. He says you don't have to. She says Jack writes beautifully and I wish i had met him. He says me too. She says you are a lot like him. JJ says I don't know.

Brady and Theresa have sex on her couch. He has daddy issues and talks about John trying to save him. Theresa says "I think he was just dying to protect you." Brady passes out and she gets a plan in her head about John.

Abigail tells planning the wedding will be torture and she fells guilty enough. EJ says nothing else matters but Samantha's happiness.

Sami on the phone about the wedding date.

Ben tells Jordan that he knows she's never put herself out there like she has with Rafe. He says Rafe loves her. Ben knows that just give Rafe time. She thinks he's slipping away.

And we get dumb Rafe in bed with Kate.
Okay, Days with these guys who sleep with random women 1/2 hour after being with their significant other is really bad. Are we supposed to think that Rafe is no better than EJ? it's this muddled who is good vs who is bad on this show that continues to drain it of any reason to watch. The only people on the show worth rooting for are under the age of 10. I like Haiden but I'm sure something will blow them to bits too.

The writers are having a massacre with couples and characters. I may be biased, but I can understand what led ej to cheat on sami better than I can understand Rafe cheating on Jordan. I am not talking about what he is going through. I can understand his guilt over Gabi. I am talking about the state of his relationship with Jordan. Jafe are in love and happy while Ejami's relationship was in limbo. Sami had kicked Ej out of their bed and she had cut him out of her life emotionally. Ejami were dealing with some serious problems in their relationship at the time.
Kaha
Jun 16 2014, 12:15 PM
Brady and Bell were raised by nannies? Where were John and Marlena?

going at it like rabbit LOL.

I know Brady is exaggerating, it is not totally untrue. Brady was MIA most of the time growing up and hardly mentioned and Jarlena were always going to some adventure either to find out John's true identify or some other reasons. When he came back as a young adult, we were told that he had been in boarding school. So it is not out of the left field IMO
Kaha
Jun 16 2014, 12:19 PM
I am not committed one way or another to "Sami is scheming with Kate" hypothesis but if that's the case, is it wrong that I am feeling sorry for EJ?

LOL Kaha, I am surprised by this statement. I would not expect you to feel that way. Can you tell me why you feel sorry for ej?

You know, I love me some Ej, but I don't feel sorry for him. He had it coming. He did screw up and he has to be punished. I think I am not all that upset because I know Sami is not leaving Ej, just teaching a lesson IMO. The worst scenario for Ej would be for Sami to take the kids and leave him for good and I am pretty certain she is not going to do that. I like the idea of Sami being in control of the situation instead of being a clueless fool and I do love me so me scheming SGB. So let the games begin...
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KweenBoda, I think Sami is pretty smart IMO. She will find our sooner or later that EJ cheated on her by sleeping and making out with Abigail and she will be infuriated which I don't blame her. I can just picture Sami yelling at Abigail right now, "You little bitch I cannot believe you slept with my fiancé!" Abigail would deserve every word Sami digs into Abigail and she will find some way to plot revenge on her.
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Jun 16 2014, 02:00 PM
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The reason the Jordan story has lost popularity is because they haven't told it. It's totally the last minute change that affected the pacing and I DO wonder if that had to do with an idea GG may not renew his contract. Time shall tell. It's interesting to me anyway lol
How can they gain popularity when they stall the story the way they did? It's been MONTHS of nothing. No forward movement and not even sweet couple moments to play. The actors were jipped! And today they drag Rafe down into the mud. That was such gross behavior coming from him. It's hard to gather up support for a man who growls at his sweet comforting girlfriend and then go off have a fuck with a woman who has been after Jordan since she set foot in Salem. I don't think women are going to be swooning over his character when you turn him into a world class jerk! They better have a plan for Rafe because this is just the thing to make you want to wash your hands of him.
I think Jordan's going be hurt, but she's going to feel that Kate took advantage of Rafe. She know how upset he was and that he was drinking and if she finds out the exact night it happened, she'll blame Kate more than Rafe since she knows how determined Kate was to get him back.
I don't think Rafe should get off the hook for this just because he's wallowing in guilt and booze. He's obviously able to get his pants down just fine. It pisses me off that they took Rafe to this level and are trashing his honor instead of building up his finer distinctions. But Jordan shouldn't pass over blaming him and if he EVER wants to make a go of it with her again he better get down on his knees and grovel while her sweet concerned face of today flashes through his mind.
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How can they gain popularity when they stall the story the way they did? It's been MONTHS of nothing. No forward movement and not even sweet couple moments to play. The actors were jipped! And today they drag Rafe down into the mud. That was such gross behavior coming from him. It's hard to gather up support for a man who growls at his sweet comforting girlfriend and then go off have a fuck with a woman who has been after Jordan since she set foot in Salem. I don't think women are going to be swooning over his character when you turn him into a world class jerk! They better have a plan for Rafe because this is just the thing to make you want to wash your hands of him.
I think Jordan's going be hurt, but she's going to feel that Kate took advantage of Rafe. She know how upset he was and that he was drinking and if she finds out the exact night it happened, she'll blame Kate more than Rafe since she knows how determined Kate was to get him back.
I don't think Rafe should get off the hook for this just because he's wallowing in guilt and booze. He's obviously able to get his pants down just fine. It pisses me off that they took Rafe to this level and are trashing his honor instead of building up his finer distinctions. But Jordan shouldn't pass over blaming him and if he EVER wants to make a go of it with her again he better get down on his knees and grovel while her sweet concerned face of today flashes through his mind.
Yeah, whether it's "you called off the wedding/moved out of our bedroom" or "I was depressed and drunk," neither are acceptable excuses for cheating on somebody you love and with whom you are in a committed relationship. I just don't get how the writers think these random affairs provide great drama. I mean, affair storylines are a soap staple and can be really well done (like Jarlena's), but TomSell have done none of the hard work in making these affairs really emotionally jarring. They have just gone for cheap, shock value instead. Lame.
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Why couldn't Eve be Mary-Beth's mother? Paige seems too boring to be related to Eve
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Jun 16 2014, 11:19 AM
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Jun 16 2014, 11:16 AM
Sami really, really wants to get married quickly before the board meeting in a few days.
Hmmm. Sami's definitely scheming.
I wonder if her scheming with kate included Kate's roll in the hay with Rafe.

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DawnElicia
Jun 16 2014, 11:41 AM
Since when has Abby been a wedding planner or did any kind of event planning.
She organised the t-shirts for the marathon thing.
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I was surprised that they had Rafe mention Carrie LOL. I thought they wanted us to forget that Rafe was once in love with Carrie.

I was also confused by Rafe saying she tried to rescue Carrie. From what? I don't remember Carrie needing rescuing or did I miss something?

So Rafe boinked Kate because she is independent and does not need a hero to save her. OK then.
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Jun 16 2014, 12:05 PM
EJ "nothing else matters but Samantha's happiness" :facepalm: Dumb Rafe :shame:
Yeah what would have been a great twist is if Abby had of kneed him in his groin at that moment and told him to take care of his own wedding.
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Jun 16 2014, 03:43 PM
DawnElicia
Jun 16 2014, 11:41 AM
Since when has Abby been a wedding planner or did any kind of event planning.
She organised the t-shirts for the marathon thing.
Yeah, she did a great job moving those boxes into that storage closet right before EJ bent her over on one. Good thing they had all those shirts to wipe up with afterward.
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