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Tuesday, June 17th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 16 2014, 10:58 PM (19,327 Views)
PALMommy
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jewlmc
Jun 17 2014, 12:31 PM
Melanie, Melanie. Always Melanie!
Now! Now! Not true. . . sometimes they come up for air and it's Daniel, Daniel - always Daniel! ;)
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S loves EJ
Jun 17 2014, 02:44 PM
LuvingLumi
Jun 17 2014, 01:55 PM
S loves EJ
Jun 17 2014, 01:20 PM
While EJ was acting like an ass about Kristen raping Eric he didnīt know all along that is a rewrite.
Eric didn't say he knew all along...she said he knew and Sami chose to stay with him anyway....

in other words...why is Sami so upset about what Nicole did when it comes to him?

No Eric did say that he knew it all along I went back and checked, also Nicole said EJ probably knew what Kristen was up to and helped him do it which is not true, so I think the writers makes him look more quilty than he really was.
Is that a reference back to Ej's puffy coat?


Sorry usually don't mention typos but the thought of a quilty EJ amuses me.
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nananana7
Jun 17 2014, 12:51 PM
Matt
Jun 17 2014, 12:16 PM
where do I fill out papers to sue Richard Bloore for malpractice?
I'm not sure, but if his attorney sends you a reply, it will be on textured paper with paisley designs.
What? No leather? :-/
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marie1969
Jun 17 2014, 03:33 PM
FUCK YOU Eric!!!!!!

Just when I thought I could not hate that whimpy prick anymore than I do, he proves me wrong. Eric is still crying because ej did not help him clear his name and sell his sister Kristen down the river. Here is an idea Eric, why didn't fight to clear your name yourself instead of wallowing in self pity and waiting for someone else to do it for you. You expected Ej to defy Stefano and betray his own sister for you even though you have been throwing shade at him since he got to town?

You got engaged to the woman who kidnapped Sami's child and you have the nerve to judge Sami for being with Ej who by the way was not the one who drugged you. Pot meet kettle Eric. You said it yourself that you love Nicole more than your family and you chose Nicole over Sami, but Sami is not supposed to chose Ej (father of her 2 children) over you. You are such a fucking hypocrite.

For the record, Ej did not know all along, that is your warped assumption. Ej found out 2 hours before the wedding. Sami jeopardized her relationship with Ej out of loyalty for you when she kicked him out of their bed and shut him out emotionally for months. What have you done for Sami to prove your loyalty since you came here in Salem? Not a damn thing. Eric is one of those people who expect loyalty from others without reciprocating. Loyalty works both ways you entitled SOB.

I wish Sami did not give a shit about Eric because he sure does not deserve her loyalty or devotion. Eric is a SORRY excuse for a brother. I am just waiting for Sami to say FUCK YOU to her family for good and walk away into the sunset with her kids. Maybe hopefully, it will be my payoff because I have been waiting for her to finally tell her entire family to FUCK OFF for years.


Nicole whatever Ej did and did not do does not change the fact that you stab the man you claim to love in the heart. Sami should not have gotten in your face because it is none of your business, but Nicole you can spin shit and shift blame all you want, bottom line is ej is not the one who shredded the evidence, YOU did. she went from blaming Danifer to blaming God and now Ej. So take responsibility for once in your life bitch.

Nicole calling Sami a Dimera whore is hilarious considering everything she did to become one herself. Nicole honey have you forgotten that you schemed, wore a fake belly, bought a baby in the blackmarket and kidnapped sami's baby in order to become a Dimera whore. For the record, Sami is not a Dimera whore. you don't give your whore an engagement ring. She is the Dimera queen, something that Nicole fought for years to be and failed miserably. Nicole calling any woman a whore is ironic because Nicole has slept with almost every man in Salem. You own that title bitch.

Every character pissed me off today except for Jordan who I feel sorry for.
EJ gave Nicole engagement rings.
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jaylee
Jun 17 2014, 04:29 PM
The day Stefano gave the Angel wing to EJ to return to Abigail is when they changed the sl with how long EJ knew about Eric being drugged because they talked about it that day.
This is the first time I am posting (I normally lurk-so I hope I am doing this correctly) but I have to say I remember something about this conversation between Stefano and EJ (in the restaurant) where Stefano says something about EJ knowing the whole time. Does anyone else remember this?
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DaysAddiction
Jun 17 2014, 01:18 PM
Am I the only person who likes Jennifer and Daniel together :shrug: the only thing I don't like is when they put their noses where they don't belong
I don't speak for the entire board, but I don't know if it's that I hate Dannifer per say as much as the fact that I hate that they're "B story" at best and take of way too much "A story". Plus they've pushed/forced Daniel and Melanie at us ad nauseum on the audience. It's just too much. It's simply not realistic that all the characters would champion their relationship and practically forget Jack. Jack was a main character from one of THE Days' Super Couples and Daniel is quite simply a patient whore.

I've said several times, I want to like him but he's written for "too much" and kinda "icky".
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Actually the things Nicolle said were not true at all, but she was totally projecting. EJ actually had nothing to do with what happened to Eric while Nicole basically violated Eric's trust and tricked him into bed under false pretenses. He trusted her and she betrayed him, taking away his choice just like Kristen did.

Sadly I was not surprised that Eric treated Sami that way. He has been treating her the same way since he came to town. with brothers like Eric, who needs enemies. I just wish Sami would stop giving a shit about him, he is so not worth it.
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Hamilton
Jun 17 2014, 01:41 PM
I liked Jordan's dream because the two actually looked very loving in it. They do have a sweet chemistry. I don't know what it is with Kate and Rafe but Galen doesn't seem to know how to play the material. He comes off really goofy acting to me. What was going through Rafe's mind? ANYTHING? He just seemed there. Shouldn't Rafe have been affected by his actions and shown it? Hello?! It's not suppose to be just another day at the office. Weird.

I don't find any odd vibe from Ben and Jordan's sib relationship. I like this new version of Ben so much more. I couldn't tell with the other one if there was any kind of loving bond that would have even made Jordan stick her neck out for him or him her. This is nice to see.

Poor Jordan. I hate she's going to be kept in the dark. Rafe will probably end things with her for not opening up about her past all the while keeping his own nasty secret.

I do like to see Nicole and Sami spar for the fun of it. Points to Eric for siding with Nicole and giving Sami hard truths about Ej. Sit down Sami!

Kate's not happy with her own dirty secret to toss on Jordan at any time? Nope, she's still out to win this war and get Jordan completely out of Salem. Actually I have to thank her for her detective work and moving this damn secret out in to the open!

I so want to see Ben clobber Rafe when he finds out how he treated her.

I'm missing Gabi too baby Ari!

Jennifer! Stay out of grandma's attic for your wardrobe choices. That's not an attractive look at all.

Daniel was speaking, but I really wasn't listening.



RIght now, all I can say about Jordan is this:

This secret better be one big ass doozy because it's gone on forever and it's got Kate involved, it's got Ben involved and it's got Rafe involved. Meanwhile I don't feel involved AT ALL! I feel bored! :sleep:
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PALMommy
Jun 17 2014, 04:31 PM
fundays13
Jun 17 2014, 12:23 PM
Maggie :facepalm:
I just kept thinking, "HOW does she NOT know about Gabi? HOW!??" AND "WHY did Daniel NOT call her about it and let her know about Melanie? WHY?"

Daniel. What a putz. A big orange putz!
I'm only quoting myself because I thought the same thing about Jennifer not knowing about Gabi since BOTH of her children who live with her know and already went to go see either Gabi OR WilSon about the situation!?!?
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2Lovely
Jun 17 2014, 04:48 PM
jaylee
Jun 17 2014, 04:29 PM
The day Stefano gave the Angel wing to EJ to return to Abigail is when they changed the sl with how long EJ knew about Eric being drugged because they talked about it that day.
This is the first time I am posting (I normally lurk-so I hope I am doing this correctly) but I have to say I remember something about this conversation between Stefano and EJ (in the restaurant) where Stefano says something about EJ knowing the whole time. Does anyone else remember this?
I think the phrase "the whole time" means "from the moment EJ overheard Kristen talking to Chyka".
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How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?

Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue?
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PALMommy
Jun 17 2014, 05:05 PM
2Lovely
Jun 17 2014, 04:48 PM
jaylee
Jun 17 2014, 04:29 PM
The day Stefano gave the Angel wing to EJ to return to Abigail is when they changed the sl with how long EJ knew about Eric being drugged because they talked about it that day.
This is the first time I am posting (I normally lurk-so I hope I am doing this correctly) but I have to say I remember something about this conversation between Stefano and EJ (in the restaurant) where Stefano says something about EJ knowing the whole time. Does anyone else remember this?
I think the phrase "the whole time" means "from the moment EJ overheard Kristen talking to Chyka".
Aaah. Ok. I remember it struck me as odd when Stefano said that, but perhaps you are right.
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DaysAddiction
Jun 17 2014, 01:18 PM
Am I the only person who likes Jennifer and Daniel together :shrug: the only thing I don't like is when they put their noses where they don't belong


I don't mind Danifer. Jen used to be one of my favorites. I still like her somewhat, but she irritates at times. Daniel I don't like. But it has nothing to do with Jack or Danifer. He just irritates me sometimes.

My personal feeling on the subject. Everyone has their favorites and has the right to enjoy them. I may not care for them or for instance Jarlena, but I respect that others do. It is not just my show. it is everyone's. The show needs everyone to watch including the danifer fans in order to succeed. I watch mostly for Ejami, but I don't have a problem with other couples being featured because I know they have their fans and the show need their support as much as they need mine.
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concerned
Jun 17 2014, 05:13 PM
How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?

Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue?
Stefano always knew, that's why he set Kristen up with Chyka in the first place.

EJ, who knows. I don't think he really cared why she did it (or that she even did it) just that it had the potential to destroy his relationship.
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PALMommy
Jun 17 2014, 04:50 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 17 2014, 01:18 PM
Am I the only person who likes Jennifer and Daniel together :shrug: the only thing I don't like is when they put their noses where they don't belong
I don't speak for the entire board, but I don't know if it's that I hate Dannifer per say as much as the fact that I hate that they're "B story" at best and take of way too much "A story". Plus they've pushed/forced Daniel and Melanie at us ad nauseum on the audience. It's just too much. It's simply not realistic that all the characters would champion their relationship and practically forget Jack. Jack was a main character from one of THE Days' Super Couples and Daniel is quite simply a patient whore.

I've said several times, I want to like him but he's written for "too much" and kinda "icky".
I think writing regimes sometimes resent the popularity of characters they didn't create and since they can do whatever they want they often love to destroy them and build up their favorites.
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blueskies
Jun 17 2014, 05:17 PM
concerned
Jun 17 2014, 05:13 PM
How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?

Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue?
Stefano always knew, that's why he set Kristen up with Chyka in the first place.

EJ, who knows. I don't think he really cared why she did it (or that she even did it) just that it had the potential to destroy his relationship.
It might matter to his fiancee that he was complicit in a plot to hurt her mother - although then again it's Sami so she probably won't really give a damn,.
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Rosebud
Jun 17 2014, 05:19 PM
PALMommy
Jun 17 2014, 04:50 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 17 2014, 01:18 PM
Am I the only person who likes Jennifer and Daniel together :shrug: the only thing I don't like is when they put their noses where they don't belong
I don't speak for the entire board, but I don't know if it's that I hate Dannifer per say as much as the fact that I hate that they're "B story" at best and take of way too much "A story". Plus they've pushed/forced Daniel and Melanie at us ad nauseum on the audience. It's just too much. It's simply not realistic that all the characters would champion their relationship and practically forget Jack. Jack was a main character from one of THE Days' Super Couples and Daniel is quite simply a patient whore.

I've said several times, I want to like him but he's written for "too much" and kinda "icky".
I think writing regimes sometimes resent the popularity of characters they didn't create and since they can do whatever they want they often love to destroy them and build up their favorites.
Well whatever they are trying to do to build their favourites up is not working.

It's a bit short sighted to cut down the good things you've got just to let the short mutated thing appear better.

We can still see its short and mutated it's just surrounded by a field of carnage.
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Well, Nicole/Sami really are the saving grace of this episode.

Kate/Rafe/Ben/Jordan were okay but for a twist of this magnitude it fell flat.
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Rosebud
Jun 17 2014, 05:19 PM
PALMommy
Jun 17 2014, 04:50 PM
DaysAddiction
Jun 17 2014, 01:18 PM
Am I the only person who likes Jennifer and Daniel together :shrug: the only thing I don't like is when they put their noses where they don't belong
I don't speak for the entire board, but I don't know if it's that I hate Dannifer per say as much as the fact that I hate that they're "B story" at best and take of way too much "A story". Plus they've pushed/forced Daniel and Melanie at us ad nauseum on the audience. It's just too much. It's simply not realistic that all the characters would champion their relationship and practically forget Jack. Jack was a main character from one of THE Days' Super Couples and Daniel is quite simply a patient whore.

I've said several times, I want to like him but he's written for "too much" and kinda "icky".
I think writing regimes sometimes resent the popularity of characters they didn't create and since they can do whatever they want they often love to destroy them and build up their favorites.
I blame dena for getting it all started by pairing a 40 something with an actress who looked like a 16 year old. It was take a shower to clean the sleaze off kind of story. Then daniel became a serial patient sexer and developed a sanctimonious attitude.

I much prefer sc play a character similar to his world turns role. He was a working class garage mechanic with a criminal record who was in love with a rich girl and had sex with her evil half sister.
Daniel is too saintly in a snobbish way and a dullard
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LuvingLumi
Jun 17 2014, 01:55 PM
S loves EJ
Jun 17 2014, 01:20 PM
While EJ was acting like an ass about Kristen raping Eric he didnīt know all along that is a rewrite.
Eric didn't say he knew all along...she said he knew and Sami chose to stay with him anyway....

in other words...why is Sami so upset about what Nicole did when it comes to him?
Actually he did say all along. He is assuming the worst about ej and he is presenting it as facts. I will admit that Sami should not have gotten in Nicole's face about that mostly because Eric is not even worth it as a brother. But Eric has no right to expect Sami to break up with the man he loves and the father of his children, ruin the family she has been building for over a year when Eric was about to marry the woman who kidnapped his twin sister's baby? It is like the pot calling the kettle black.

It is not like Eric has shown any loyalty to Sami since he got to town. He was barely there for Sami when she was facing life in prison while Ej fought for her with everything he had including offering his freedom for her and giving up everything he had to save her. Ej has been Sami's rock in spite of his flaws. Is Sami supposed to give up that kind of devotion for a brother who does not even give 2 shit about her?

It is not like Sami was OK with what Ej did anyway. Sami did shut Ej out of her life and her bed for months out of loyalty for Eric (which caused great damage to her relationship). I can not remember a single instant Eric showed loyalty for Sami since he came back to Salem. Loyalty works both ways.
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