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Jun 17 2014, 05:37 PM
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Daniel was certainly a dick today. I don't think Jennifer was right to tell Eric what Nicole did, but I believe Daniel would've kept Nicole's secret. It would've been nice had Jennifer stood by her opinion, but she spent the whole day groveling to Daniel, which was painful to watch.
Maggie's scenes today were even worse to watch. You'd never know from watching today's show that Maggie knew Jennifer her whole life and that she only found out about egg baby Daniel a couple of years ago. The writers can't entirely be blamed, since I thought it was Molly Burnett and Suzanne Rogers' idea to make them related.
Edit: I guess this is an unpopular opinion, but I loved what Sami and Nicole wore today. I thought both looked fantastic. I loved Sami's dress too. This is totally something I would wear. I thought Nicole and abigail dresses were also pretty.
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Jun 17 2014, 05:45 PM
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Abigail tells Jordan that Rafe is the type of guy who goes inward when something is wrong. Abigail realizes that they are standing right where Nick collapsed. She says it's weird, all their lives have changed since then. I have to call David Cherrill out on this WTF line. Didn't Sami think Abigail was involved with Rafe because of the whole "Rafael" mix-up? When Sami brought up her crush on 'Rafe' Abigail replied she hardly knew Rafe. That I believed to be true since we had never seen the two really cross paths. BUT today! Abigail is filling in Jordan on the complexities of Rafe's behavior when he's upset and Jordan who has spent month upon month with Rafe tells Abby "I'm just realizing this about him." BULLSHIT! Where does this even come from? Now if Cherrill wanted to preface it with Abigail saying, 'Gabi once mentioned that Rafe goes inward when something's wrong.' I'd not have a problem. I'm tired of the writers being so damn irresponsible. Look over the scripts and put out a quality product.
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How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?
Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue? It's not like EJ had shocking inside information well before everyone else. Everybody knew that Kristen wanted to hurt Marlena. Even Brady knew before Kristen temporarily screwed what little brains he had out.
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Jun 17 2014, 05:48 PM
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How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?
Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue?
It's not like EJ had shocking inside information well before everyone else. Everybody knew that Kristen wanted to hurt Marlena. Even Brady knew before Kristen temporarily screwed what little brains he had out. I think Jen was in the dark.
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Jun 17 2014, 05:52 PM
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How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?
Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue?
It's not like EJ had shocking inside information well before everyone else. Everybody knew that Kristen wanted to hurt Marlena. Even Brady knew before Kristen temporarily screwed what little brains he had out.
I think Jen was in the dark. Jen knew she'd slept with someone, but not all the gory details.
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Jun 17 2014, 05:55 PM
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Am I the only person who likes Jennifer and Daniel together :shrug: the only thing I don't like is when they put their noses where they don't belong
I don't speak for the entire board, but I don't know if it's that I hate Dannifer per say as much as the fact that I hate that they're "B story" at best and take of way too much "A story". Plus they've pushed/forced Daniel and Melanie at us ad nauseum on the audience. It's just too much. It's simply not realistic that all the characters would champion their relationship and practically forget Jack. Jack was a main character from one of THE Days' Super Couples and Daniel is quite simply a patient whore. I've said several times, I want to like him but he's written for "too much" and kinda "icky". I'm confused. What are A and B story and patient whore lmfao
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Jun 17 2014, 05:59 PM
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How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?
Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue?
It's not like EJ had shocking inside information well before everyone else. Everybody knew that Kristen wanted to hurt Marlena. Even Brady knew before Kristen temporarily screwed what little brains he had out.
I think Jen was in the dark. Wasn't Jen suspicious of Kristen in the beginning, too?
Moving on, I was disappointed in Eric today. He doesn't seem to be able to muster up much understanding for his twin and that's a shame. His "everyone deserves forgiveness except EJ" mantra could actually lead to some interesting character growth and good conflict for him and Sami, but unfortunately the show won't ever do anything with it.
I hate the way Days just discounts other pairings to push their new pairing of the moment. Daniel did a lot of things he wasn't proud of from the time Rebecca died til he met Jen? So, was there nothing good or to be proud of in his relationship with Chloe? They admittedly didn't get off to an auspicious start, but they had some good times there. It was funny that the dannifer argument boiled down to Daniel being hurt that Jennifer didn't think he was as great as he thought he was. That's actually pretty reasonable to be upset that someone thinks you'd do something that you're sure you wouldn't but I can see how it would be a hard blow for Daniel, since all he and Jennifer do is praise each other. If they lose that, I'm not sure what they'd have left.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:08 PM
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- Jun 17 2014, 04:26 PM
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- Jun 17 2014, 03:33 PM
FUCK YOU Eric!!!!!!
Just when I thought I could not hate that whimpy prick anymore than I do, he proves me wrong. Eric is still crying because ej did not help him clear his name and sell his sister Kristen down the river. Here is an idea Eric, why didn't fight to clear your name yourself instead of wallowing in self pity and waiting for someone else to do it for you. You expected Ej to defy Stefano and betray his own sister for you even though you have been throwing shade at him since he got to town?
You got engaged to the woman who kidnapped Sami's child and you have the nerve to judge Sami for being with Ej who by the way was not the one who drugged you. Pot meet kettle Eric. You said it yourself that you love Nicole more than your family and you chose Nicole over Sami, but Sami is not supposed to chose Ej (father of her 2 children) over you. You are such a fucking hypocrite.
For the record, Ej did not know all along, that is your warped assumption. Ej found out 2 hours before the wedding. Sami jeopardized her relationship with Ej out of loyalty for you when she kicked him out of their bed and shut him out emotionally for months. What have you done for Sami to prove your loyalty since you came here in Salem? Not a damn thing. Eric is one of those people who expect loyalty from others without reciprocating. Loyalty works both ways you entitled SOB.
I wish Sami did not give a shit about Eric because he sure does not deserve her loyalty or devotion. Eric is a SORRY excuse for a brother. I am just waiting for Sami to say FUCK YOU to her family for good and walk away into the sunset with her kids. Maybe hopefully, it will be my payoff because I have been waiting for her to finally tell her entire family to FUCK OFF for years.
Nicole whatever Ej did and did not do does not change the fact that you stab the man you claim to love in the heart. Sami should not have gotten in your face because it is none of your business, but Nicole you can spin shit and shift blame all you want, bottom line is ej is not the one who shredded the evidence, YOU did. she went from blaming Danifer to blaming God and now Ej. So take responsibility for once in your life bitch.
Nicole calling Sami a Dimera whore is hilarious considering everything she did to become one herself. Nicole honey have you forgotten that you schemed, wore a fake belly, bought a baby in the blackmarket and kidnapped sami's baby in order to become a Dimera whore. For the record, Sami is not a Dimera whore. you don't give your whore an engagement ring. She is the Dimera queen, something that Nicole fought for years to be and failed miserably. Nicole calling any woman a whore is ironic because Nicole has slept with almost every man in Salem. You own that title bitch.
Every character pissed me off today except for Jordan who I feel sorry for.
And here I thought Nicole was married to Ej once upon a time... Engaged twice to him too..she was as much a Dimera queen as you claim Sami is.... LOL Ej married Nicole the first because he thought she was having a Dimera heir when in fact Nicole was faking a pregnancy. that makes her a fraud, not the Dimera queen. Ej never treated her like a queen back then either. He treated her poorly and he was still hung up on Sami. The second time, he only married her to stick it to Sami. it was not a real marriage. he gave a tracking bracelet like a property and was fucking her sister on the side. she had to blackmail him to keep him from leaving her. Not a Dimera queen.
The last time was promising because he seem to genuinely wants to be with her. But Nicole was wavering, so he sought comfort in sami's arms and the rest is history. you snooze, you lose. Once Ej realized that he had a chance to be with Sami, Nicole was an afterthought. So yeah, nicole was never the Dimera queen. she was at best a substitute as she admitted to daniel. Sami on the other hand will be the Dimera queen and will remain the Dimera queen as she rides into the sunset with her kids hopefully to meet Ej in Mocoro or some other paradise. :biggrin:
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Jun 17 2014, 06:17 PM
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Abigail tells Jordan that Rafe is the type of guy who goes inward when something is wrong. Abigail realizes that they are standing right where Nick collapsed. She says it's weird, all their lives have changed since then.
I have to call David Cherrill out on this WTF line. Didn't Sami think Abigail was involved with Rafe because of the whole "Rafael" mix-up? When Sami brought up her crush on 'Rafe' Abigail replied she hardly knew Rafe. That I believed to be true since we had never seen the two really cross paths. BUT today! Abigail is filling in Jordan on the complexities of Rafe's behavior when he's upset and Jordan who has spent month upon month with Rafe tells Abby "I'm just realizing this about him." BULLSHIT! Where does this even come from? Now if Cherrill wanted to preface it with Abigail saying, 'Gabi once mentioned that Rafe goes inward when something's wrong.' I'd not have a problem. I'm tired of the writers being so damn irresponsible. Look over the scripts and put out a quality product. Yeah, that line made no sense to me, either. Abby has barely interacted with Rafe in the entire time Kate Mansi has been on the show. Abby has no real insight to offer in this situation. If she had observed that he seemed like the type of guy who would go inward in response to such hardship, it would have been another matter entirely.
And that wasn't the only weird thing in today's episode. We went from Rafe and Kate being worried about someone being in the hallway outside Rafe's apartment to Kate emerging from the bathroom at Club TBD with no scenes in between.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:19 PM
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How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?
Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue? Stefano knew. but he forbade Kristen to physically harm Marlena. But everyone else was fair game.
Ej did not know what Kristen was up to. But I think he may have suspected she was up to something, but he did not know anything for sure. He also knew that Kristen was truly in love with Brady. So he just chose to mind his own business until that infamous day.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:20 PM
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lol I like Sami but I am #TeamNicole right now. Sami instigated this argument. Of course Nicole will be angry if she calls her a bitch and slaps her. Sami has the right to know how come she and her brother aren't together but she could have been nicer about it and had a more tactful approach. I know she hates Nicole and she has every right to for switching her baby but she got what she deserved in this fight. Sami could have asked her brother and not Nicole :shrug:
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Jun 17 2014, 06:23 PM
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How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?
Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue?
Stefano always knew, that's why he set Kristen up with Chyka in the first place. EJ, who knows. I don't think he really cared why she did it (or that she even did it) just that it had the potential to destroy his relationship.
It might matter to his fiancee that he was complicit in a plot to hurt her mother - although then again it's Sami so she probably won't really give a damn,. Except he was NOT complicit in any of it.
You have no idea how much I wish you were right about Sami in that she did not care about her mother.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:23 PM
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How long did Stefano know? Was he aware of what she was planning when he handed over Dr Chykas details?
Also EJ knew what Kristen's motivations were from the beginning that she wanted revenge on Marlena. Is that an issue?
It's not like EJ had shocking inside information well before everyone else. Everybody knew that Kristen wanted to hurt Marlena. Even Brady knew before Kristen temporarily screwed what little brains he had out.
I think Jen was in the dark.
Moving on, I was disappointed in Eric today. He doesn't seem to be able to muster up much understanding for his twin and that's a shame. His "everyone deserves forgiveness except EJ" mantra could actually lead to some interesting character growth and good conflict for him and Sami, but unfortunately the show won't ever do anything with it. When has Sami mustered up understanding for Eric? He tried to explain his engagement to Nicole to Sami but she made it all about herself as usual.
One thing that disappoints me is the lack of scenes between Eric and Sami. They barely cross paths. They are supposed to be "close" but that isn't depicted well on this show at all.
In regards to the whole business regarding what EJ knew about Kristen, it seemed like Sami went from being very pissed about it (thinking EJ was lying) to just forgetting about it after a couple of months. I don't recall what made Sami become satisfied with what EJ told her.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:24 PM
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Awww, man, just when Rafe was becoming enjoyable, he falls flat on his face! :( What was up with him being so unconcerned about sleeping with Kate? If he still has any feelings for Jordan or thinks he's a good guy, shouldn't he have been a little more horrified to wake up next to Kate again?
I know they're not related, but it's still creepy when Daniel calls Maggie "Mom" right after Jennifer addresses her as "Aunt Maggie."
Maggie's whole spiel about Gabi, saying how terrible it was to think you know someone and they turn out to be awful, could've also been about Nick. Did they ever address how Maggie came to terms with her darling Nick being so awful to her precious Melanie? On a side funny note, I had closed captioning on, and ONLY during Maggie's "poor Melanie" speech, there was a caption of "vegetabvegetablah" above the rest of the text. :blulaugh:
I wish Jennifer was wearing Sami's dress because at least it would look like she had a backbone. Hated seeing Daniel talk over her and berate her for what he thinks she thinks of him without hearing her out. Jennifer Rose, you have more dignity than that. If only she would've laid into that pompous orange jackass. Guess what, Daniel, you ARE a liar. You think it's ok because you say you do it for what you think is right, but that's kinda what liars do, pal. They lie to get their way.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:25 PM
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I wonder if Daniel's comment about doing regrettable things after Rebecca's death was meant to be an allusion to the fact that he slept with various patients for a while? Because that's how I took it. In any case, for those of you who complain that the writers always act like Daniel is perfect and can do no wrong, today's dialogue clearly proved that they know that he hasn't always been a good guy.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:28 PM
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I don't understand why it's a good thing that Jennifer is groveling to Daniel.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:29 PM
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I think Jen was in the dark.
Moving on, I was disappointed in Eric today. He doesn't seem to be able to muster up much understanding for his twin and that's a shame. His "everyone deserves forgiveness except EJ" mantra could actually lead to some interesting character growth and good conflict for him and Sami, but unfortunately the show won't ever do anything with it.
When has Sami mustered up understanding for Eric? He tried to explain his engagement to Nicole to Sami but she made it all about herself as usual. One thing that disappoints me is the lack of scenes between Eric and Sami. They barely cross paths. They are supposed to be "close" but that isn't depicted well on this show at all. In regards to the whole business regarding what EJ knew about Kristen, it seemed like Sami went from being very pissed about it (thinking EJ was lying) to just forgetting about it after a couple of months. I don't recall what made Sami become satisfied with what EJ told her. Sami and Eric aren't the same people and I don't expect the same behavior from them. As a former priest and a good guy, I expect better from Eric.
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Abigail tells Jordan that Rafe is the type of guy who goes inward when something is wrong. Abigail realizes that they are standing right where Nick collapsed. She says it's weird, all their lives have changed since then.
I have to call David Cherrill out on this WTF line. Didn't Sami think Abigail was involved with Rafe because of the whole "Rafael" mix-up? When Sami brought up her crush on 'Rafe' Abigail replied she hardly knew Rafe. That I believed to be true since we had never seen the two really cross paths. BUT today! Abigail is filling in Jordan on the complexities of Rafe's behavior when he's upset and Jordan who has spent month upon month with Rafe tells Abby "I'm just realizing this about him." BULLSHIT! Where does this even come from? Now if Cherrill wanted to preface it with Abigail saying, 'Gabi once mentioned that Rafe goes inward when something's wrong.' I'd not have a problem. I'm tired of the writers being so damn irresponsible. Look over the scripts and put out a quality product. This was a total WTF line to me too. That whole contrived "Rafael" mix-up wasn't that long ago either.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:33 PM
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Jennifer is wearing my moms drapes from her kitchen in 1978.
She should've wore the plastic grapes for earrings.
In other news, the show is horrible. I don't care about a single one of these characters.
The bubonic plague needs to strike Salem & wipe them all out.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:44 PM
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I think Jen was in the dark.
Moving on, I was disappointed in Eric today. He doesn't seem to be able to muster up much understanding for his twin and that's a shame. His "everyone deserves forgiveness except EJ" mantra could actually lead to some interesting character growth and good conflict for him and Sami, but unfortunately the show won't ever do anything with it.
When has Sami mustered up understanding for Eric? He tried to explain his engagement to Nicole to Sami but she made it all about herself as usual. One thing that disappoints me is the lack of scenes between Eric and Sami. They barely cross paths. They are supposed to be "close" but that isn't depicted well on this show at all. In regards to the whole business regarding what EJ knew about Kristen, it seemed like Sami went from being very pissed about it (thinking EJ was lying) to just forgetting about it after a couple of months. I don't recall what made Sami become satisfied with what EJ told her. Sami stood by Eric throughout the whole ordeal. she was very supportive of him and she was devastated for him. She even put Eric before her relationship with Ej which is something I would never do personally.
It took her months to eventually forgive him and move past it and Ej finally apologized for keeping it from her and for Kristen did. They just decided to get past it. That is what couple do when they are in committed relationships. you deal with your issues and work it out through forgiveness. If couple break up every time there is a family issue, there would be no lifelong successful relationships.
IMO Eric and Sami are not close. They are twins and I know Sami loves Eric, but I don't believe that Eric loves Sami or even like her.
In Sami's defense, given the fact that Nicole kidnapped her child, I might be a little upset too if my twin brother decided to marry the woman who stole my child at birth. On the flip side, Eric is also making Sami's relationship with ej all about him and his problems.
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